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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 14, 2010 12:28:07 GMT -5
You have been singly focused on the subject of getting rid of me since literally Day One. This false statement shows how duplicitous storyteller is. Ha. OK, you got me. Since Night One. Doesn't change my point, and hardly qualifies as evidence of "duplicity." But again, I don't have to convince you or anyone; those who have worked with me can judge for themselves how direct and open I've been.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 14, 2010 12:29:10 GMT -5
Sorry, triple post: the phrase "directly correlated" in my first post of the three should actually read "inversely correlated."
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Post by moodymitchy on Jun 14, 2010 12:36:24 GMT -5
At the moment I'm just happy to lynch someone who is NOT in a Clan that I am in. At least then it would be another opponent down as far as I'm concerned and closer to my aim of winning the game.
Like I say there are still plenty of people in the game and I need all but possibly 4 of them dead (If my surviving clan has four members).
Looking at the clan roll toDay as I feel as the days roll on it will become more important..... I see there is one Clan that has 4 primary members... Would love to try and work out who these are because I feel that we could also be looking at reducing the power base of some Clans.
That said I have to ponder BILLMc's utter conviction that TOTAL LOST is the MOTDD against the knowledge that STORYTELLER is almost a nailed on HOC. And then I have DRAINBEAD whom it appears may possibly have used a "block all" power last Night to stop anything happening and make this groundhog day.
Though I'm not jumping up and down with delight with that idea I do feel that it would be a use once power and has just bought her possibly a couple of extra Days. I don't feel that they are affording her any great protection from anywhere so I think they can wait.
To that end I'm going to
VOTE TOTAL LOST
Hell none of the above are alligned with me in any way so unless I see compelling evidence to the contary I'd be happy for any one of them to go.
On preview I guess it's not worth me sending STORYTELLER a PM ;D ;D
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Post by The Authors on Jun 14, 2010 13:41:32 GMT -5
A couple of things.
1. Dusk will fall Today on Thursday 17th June at 8:00pm EST.
2.Deadline for submission for Day actions is Wednesday 16th June at 8:00pm EST.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 14, 2010 14:43:18 GMT -5
I can say however: I do NOT have that sword!! No idea why you keep stating that I do. Because I don't!!!So let's for a moment assume I believe you. Do you agree that whoever has the sword most likely killed Mahaloth? I'll take this one actually. I don't agree. I think it's possible that Mahaloth's ability was "inherited" to another player, in which case it's not likely to be one that already has a killing role. I don't have any particular evidence for (or against) this surmise, I'm just pointing out that there's no reason to suppose that the person who killed Mahaloth has his sword. Can somebody enlighten me as to whether Storyteller or Total Lost has ever made a public claim?
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 14, 2010 15:16:28 GMT -5
Can somebody enlighten me as to whether Storyteller or Total Lost has ever made a public claim? story publicly claimed he is neither the MotDoD nor HoC, but has since publicly refused that claim.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 14, 2010 15:52:07 GMT -5
I'll take this one actually. I don't agree. I think it's possible that Mahaloth's ability was "inherited" to another player, in which case it's not likely to be one that already has a killing role. I don't have any particular evidence for (or against) this surmise, I'm just pointing out that there's no reason to suppose that the person who killed Mahaloth has his sword. So either - there is a backup day killer - the mild mannered janitor is now a kungfu killer (unlikey)
- the mods just rolled a dice and gave it to someone at random. While I like a bit of random chance in whether actions succeeding or not, having key aspects of a game depend totally on chance is generally a bad idea. Randomly making someone a killer midgame seems like bad idea as it provides no accountability and could be game breaking depending who got it.
- they are being gastardly and the sword is missing and gone from the game.
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Post by moodymitchy on Jun 14, 2010 16:10:50 GMT -5
[/i]of the results from Night 1-3 and also if others would post their names in this thread/other threads/PM it to me, I'd be more than happy to help us all get more data from this mess. [/quote] Snipped from here.... bolding mine. www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=ada&thread=1379&post=64500TOTAL LOST Why only some of your results... this seems to me to suggest there is more to it than just name investigation..
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 14, 2010 16:17:35 GMT -5
So either - there is a backup day killer - the mild mannered janitor is now a kungfu killer (unlikey)
- the mods just rolled a dice and gave it to someone at random. While I like a bit of random chance in whether actions succeeding or not, having key aspects of a game depend totally on chance is generally a bad idea. Randomly making someone a killer midgame seems like bad idea as it provides no accountability and could be game breaking depending who got it.
- they are being gastardly and the sword is missing and gone from the game.
Point by: 1. On what basis do you consider it unlikely? Even in a regular Mafia game, there are many ways to combine roles and powers. In this game, there's no reason to expect anything in particular. 2. I strongly dislike any use of randomness during game play, but that's a preference and games can be balanced with it. 3. Omission of information is not gastardly.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 14, 2010 17:13:38 GMT -5
1. On what basis do you consider it unlikely? Even in a regular Mafia game, there are many ways to combine roles and powers. In this game, there's no reason to expect anything in particular. Backups are usually on the same side, and generally used to try and sustain the balance between the sides. Since we are all 3rd parties, that doesn't seem to jive. Similarly, we (the Ascendents) are all 3rd parties, it doesn't seem "fair" to have a player who gets a leg up over the others. A kills B and gets B's powers, great for A but unfair for everyone else. To be "fair" there would need to a reasonable chance/opportunity for anyone to acquire the extra power rather than it being pre-ordained that A would get it. 3. Omission of information is not gastardly. Omission would not be. The introduction of, and reinforcement of useless information to send us off on wild goose chase would be.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 14, 2010 17:17:42 GMT -5
if others would post their names in this thread/other threads/PM it to me, I'd be more than happy to help us all get more data from this mess. And what exactly are you going to do with everyones names, why do you need everyones names? You've already stated that you "Power" is true or false for someones claimed name. The only folk with reason to lie about their name are the Chains and the MotDD. Story is the last Chain, you are the MOtDD. What more data are you going to provide?
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Post by guiri on Jun 14, 2010 17:24:51 GMT -5
The only folk with reason to lie about their name are the Chains and the MotDD. And Mahaloth...
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Post by sinjin on Jun 14, 2010 17:36:17 GMT -5
if others would post their names in this thread/other threads/PM it to me, I'd be more than happy to help us all get more data from this mess. And what exactly are you going to do with everyones names, why do you need everyones names? You've already stated that you "Power" is true or false for someones claimed name. The only folk with reason to lie about their name are the Chains and the MotDD. Story is the last Chain, you are the MOtDD. What more data are you going to provide? You show me yours I'll show you mine. I know nothing about you in this game. In good faith I'll PM you mine first. PM on the way as soon as I go back and find out what it is.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 14, 2010 17:38:33 GMT -5
1. On what basis do you consider it unlikely? Even in a regular Mafia game, there are many ways to combine roles and powers. In this game, there's no reason to expect anything in particular. Backups are usually on the same side, and generally used to try and sustain the balance between the sides. Since we are all 3rd parties, that doesn't seem to jive. Similarly, we (the Ascendents) are all 3rd parties, it doesn't seem "fair" to have a player who gets a leg up over the others. A kills B and gets B's powers, great for A but unfair for everyone else. To be "fair" there would need to a reasonable chance/opportunity for anyone to acquire the extra power rather than it being pre-ordained that A would get it. Balancing the game requires complete knowledge. You're using your incomplete knowledge of the game and trying to guess how the designers balanced it. That won't work well. The only information we have about the sword is "Dragnipur, one of the deadliest weapons in existence, has gone missing". Don't blame the moderators for your own imagination.
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Post by Drain Bead on Jun 14, 2010 17:38:37 GMT -5
Yesterday was insane, but I came out of it knowing something that I didn't know when the Day began, and that's the fact that I really shouldn't be worrying about the HoC. They're apparently playing their own game within the game, with a separate win condition that doesn't conflict with ours. That's why we have to eliminate them instead of killing them. The last one wins and leaves and the rest of us still duke it out amongst ourselves. So I really don't care about them so much anymore. They can work on killing one another off, while during the Day we focus our attention on what we both need done--killing the MoDD.
And to that end, I'm going to vote an erratic and untrustworthy player, who I am aware has lied to two separate groups of people, and possibly more, and who also either has or controls a killing power.
Vote: blockey
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Post by BillMc on Jun 14, 2010 17:56:11 GMT -5
The only folk with reason to lie about their name are the Chains and the MotDD. And Mahaloth... Why would Mahaloth need to lie about his name?
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Post by sinjin on Jun 14, 2010 18:18:51 GMT -5
And what the hell is up with fisheroo. She magic bagged us and never came back. I'm willing to vote for just about anyone not me and not clanned with me so to encourage her to get with the program;
vote fisheroo
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 14, 2010 19:43:09 GMT -5
And what the hell is up with fisheroo. She magic bagged us and never came back. I'm willing to vote for just about anyone not me and not clanned with me so to encourage her to get with the program; vote fisherooding ding ding we have a winner. vote fishypoo
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Post by fisheroo on Jun 15, 2010 6:26:49 GMT -5
And what the hell is up with fisheroo. She magic bagged us and never came back. I'm willing to vote for just about anyone not me and not clanned with me so to encourage her to get with the program; vote fisherooNah, I didn't magic bag you, I just said my powers haven't been worth much up to now. The jury is still out on their value. It is interesting that you try so hard to prove that you aren't HOC to me, unbidden, yet turn on me at the first opportunity. Especially when it should have been obvious at least by early yesterday that being HOC is not necessarily a threat to an Ascendant win condition. I was in Ohio all last week, with all the awesomeness one would expect. Peeks, don't get mad about the goat, you know I love you.
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Post by fisheroo on Jun 15, 2010 6:36:43 GMT -5
Upon further reflection (otherwise known as going through my correspondence) your vote on me REALLY doesn't make sense sinjin.
You know I speak the truth, yet you vote for me? What's up with that?
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Post by sinjin on Jun 15, 2010 7:48:05 GMT -5
And what the hell is up with fisheroo. She magic bagged us and never came back. I'm willing to vote for just about anyone not me and not clanned with me so to encourage her to get with the program; vote fisherooNah, I didn't magic bag you, I just said my powers haven't been worth much up to now. The jury is still out on their value. fisheroo: Are we there yet? I guess a week is the first opportunity in some people's universe. And let's look at that quote again shall we: Underlining added for emphasis. Turned on you? Really? That's what you get out of that statement? And yet because of it, here you are posting again. So what? Sorry, I missed that you posted you would be away all week in Ohio in the going to be away thread. Oh, yeah you didn't post anything there. You did post this 6 days ago though: I guess I should have extrapolated that an all day conference = a week. Silly me. And yes I reached out to you a week ago and haven't heard back since. Silly, silly sinjin, expecting responses from people in a mafia game.
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Post by fisheroo on Jun 15, 2010 12:24:48 GMT -5
Sorry, Sinjin, didn't mean to piss you off.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 15, 2010 14:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jun 15, 2010 19:15:22 GMT -5
Day Actions are due in less than 24 hours.
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Post by sinjin on Jun 15, 2010 21:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by sinjin on Jun 15, 2010 21:11:05 GMT -5
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 15, 2010 22:58:15 GMT -5
Looks like who knows wtf is going to go down at Day's end...
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Post by Total Ullz on Jun 16, 2010 5:20:00 GMT -5
I have shared my name with people I trust. With them I have also shared the fact that I have a one-shot-powery-thing (and I'll not share it with people trying to lynch me ). Agree with Sinjin on more bunnies!! And I'd like to join in the lynch on Mister Blockery - why? Cause I'd like to And Bill - come on - you know we were joking about secret identities in that thread. I'm not accusing you of being the "joker" for the comments you made. But you're free to call me Cat when ever you like
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 16, 2010 9:09:29 GMT -5
Ok, I think there's a good chance that the MoDD is a person who hasn't publicly "claimed" a role. In the last game I was in ("Smasher Mansion 1") three out of the last five people to publicly claim were scum. That seems to happen fairly often on this board. At any rate, I think there's a good chance that the MoDD is somebody who's gone under-the-radar and who I don't know much about.
With that in mind, vote Sister Coyote. We've never really gotten a dialogue going, but I'm sure she knows more about me than I know about her. (Heck, just the amount of information I've made publicly available about myself is still more than I know about her.)
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Post by The Authors on Jun 16, 2010 9:37:22 GMT -5
Vote Count
Total (2): BillMc 4, moodymitchy 32 storyteller (1): Pleonast 22 blockey (2): Drain 44, Total 57 fisheroo (1): sinjin 46, peeker 47 SisC (1): moley 58 Not Voting (9): Cookies, fisheroo, Guiri, blockey, nphase, sinjin, SisC, story, Zeriel
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