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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 15, 2010 16:41:42 GMT -5
I thought there three people caught up in the 'posted too quickly to the moderator' debate from the last game? I was one, Dorian was one, wasn't Sister the third? Wasn't it one scum out of three?
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 15, 2010 16:57:24 GMT -5
OK - I just think the name-thing is really stupid (sorry).
I see no reason what so ever for us to debate about it all Day and I want this game to move forward.
So I'll go first: My name in this game is the name of another player. In this game. As I see it - that fits perfectly with the sense of humor that our lovely MOD has...
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 15, 2010 16:59:06 GMT -5
I thought there three people caught up in the 'posted too quickly to the moderator' debate from the last game? I was one, Dorian was one, wasn't Sister the third? Wasn't it one scum out of three? I can see this being the very problem with "lynch the Lurker"... But how do you define a lurker and what is you feelings regarding lynching them?
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Post by shaggy on Apr 15, 2010 17:07:45 GMT -5
I thought there three people caught up in the 'posted too quickly to the moderator' debate from the last game? I was one, Dorian was one, wasn't Sister the third? Wasn't it one scum out of three? Yeah as Pleo said one of them was scum: By when and how they post. For example, in the last game, two players quickly responded to the moderator (but not any other players) three days and more than 50 posts after their previous posts. To me, that was an indication that they were paying attention to the game, but had decided not to participate. One of them was scum. Bolding and snipped by me. OK - I just think the name-thing is really stupid (sorry). I see no reason what so ever for us to debate about it all Day and I want this game to move forward. So I'll go first: My name in this game is the name of another player. In this game. As I see it - that fits perfectly with the sense of humor that our lovely MOD has... Mine is as well. A name of someone playing in the game.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 15, 2010 17:16:11 GMT -5
The point I was making was that Pleo only counted two players exhibiting the behavior, and one was scum. Three players exhibiting the behavior and one being scum makes for very different false positive rate.
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Post by shaggy on Apr 15, 2010 17:20:17 GMT -5
The point I was making was that Pleo only counted two players exhibiting the behavior, and one was scum. Three players exhibiting the behavior and one being scum makes for very different false positive rate. I see now...doh my bad, makes alot more sence now.
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 15, 2010 17:22:58 GMT -5
The point I was making was that Pleo only counted two players exhibiting the behavior, and one was scum. Three players exhibiting the behavior and one being scum makes for very different false positive rate. I agree - so we're back to the fact that a "lurker" might be Town. As I guess we knew this all along. But how do we figure out when someone is a "lurker" in game or just not posting that much? MHaye doesn't post often - but I still have never felt he was a lurker... So to me (I think) a lurker is someone not commenting on things addressed int he game (like the name claim) or someone not answering questions addressed to them... So to catch a lurker... all we need to do is ask direct questions to each other (<-was a joke)
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Post by shaggy on Apr 15, 2010 17:33:07 GMT -5
That TL certainly would be for me my definition of a lurker. Someone that does not comment on conversations in the game or does not answer back when people ask you questions or have questions or issues with you and you just ignore it. To me it is not how much you do or do not post but what you post.
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Post by Pleonast on Apr 15, 2010 17:44:26 GMT -5
I thought there three people caught up in the 'posted too quickly to the moderator' debate from the last game? I was one, Dorian was one, wasn't Sister the third? Wasn't it one scum out of three? I was willing to vote for Sister and Dorian (and did) because of the specifics of their behaviors, but said your quick response was merely suspicious. You had been participating, unlike them. It was not enough to garner a vote from me (and I didn't). (Parenthetically, since it has no bearing on this game: you overreacted to what I said in that game. Although I didn't mention it, your defensive about it made me more suspicious than your quick response to the moderator, since you're typically one of the more level-headed players. But it still didn't rise to high enough level for me to vote for you.) Anyway, I consider 1 out of 2 and 1 out of 3 to be roughly the same, in terms of scum-catching power. Any technique that's better than random guessing is useful.
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 15, 2010 17:46:19 GMT -5
That TL certainly would be for me my definition of a lurker. Someone that does not comment on conversations in the game or does not answer back when people ask you questions or have questions or issues with you and you just ignore it. To me it is not how much you do or do not post but what you post. Still... I'm finding it hard how to define a lurker - because sometime Pleo can refuse to answer questions and not what to engage in specific topic. But I'd never (ever) thought of Pleo as a lurker. I still think we lack a definition of a "lurker"...
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 15, 2010 17:48:30 GMT -5
I think we have plenty of definitions. Just not common ones. Or even ones that are consistently held from one game to the next by the individual who doing the defining. Or even consistently within a given game by the individual.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Apr 15, 2010 18:17:33 GMT -5
Yeah, OK, I get it now. My role name is also that of another player in this game, and what the hell, I'll just do it:
I'm shaggy.
Now can we round up Fred and Velma and the gang and get to finding the Scum?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 15, 2010 18:20:52 GMT -5
I'm Special Ed.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 15, 2010 18:50:55 GMT -5
Workday is done! Woohoo! Good bye tax season!
So, I'm Story.
I also totally get why Story might have been confused...I get less why Fisheroo might have been. Shame we couldn't have waited to let them go first.
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Post by special on Apr 15, 2010 18:58:31 GMT -5
Yeah, OK, I get it now. My role name is also that of another player in this game, and what the hell, I'll just do it: I'm shaggy.Now can we round up Fred and Velma and the gang and get to finding the Scum? and that was the only name I saw that could belong to another theme... I wasn't totally lost, but I am Total Lost I too was wanting fisheroo to go first...
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Apr 15, 2010 19:10:19 GMT -5
So I am addressing the following questions to our Esteemed Moderator. Dear Idle:
In the first post of the sign-up thread, you say this:Two questions: 1. Was this post accurate? IE, may we assume that there are NO Town power roles other than the ones listed in this post?
More importantly:
2. Is this post also accurate for Scum? In essence, you have told the Scum exactly what our power roles are. They do not know the number of Masons but because they know their own numbers and roles, they can surely work out that number. Thus, will we be informed of Scum roles, if any? Is there a Godfather? A Role-blocker? Will you outright confirm the existence or non-existence of any non-Vanilla Scum in this game? [/b][/quote] 1. Yes...you may assume there are NO other roles in the game other than what's in that post. In fact, you shouldn't assume that even all of the roles IN that post are in the game. But there is certainly no roles in the game that are not listed in that post. 2. Yes, this applies to scum too. There are no roles--at all--in any way, shape, or form, beyond any that are listed my original (quoted) post. Although, as I said, some of them in the original (quoted) post may NOT be in the game.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Apr 15, 2010 19:18:15 GMT -5
Pleonast- To answer your questions, I'd use random.org in the event of a tie. The scums win condition is the same as it usually is...to become the majority (or tied) number of players in the game.
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Post by fisheroo on Apr 15, 2010 19:52:03 GMT -5
Sister Coyote. I assumed that this game was a play on each other names, but I would not have been so definitive like luv was.
I will make the assumption that everyone will have each other's name. Therefore, if I was lying about my name (which in the 3 games I've played previously, only one mattered) someone else will say that Sister's name was already taken. Whether or not I went first would have been immaterial.
I also thought that there might be some poking by the mod, seeing that I was so hot and heavy to lynch Sister last game. I may be reading too much into it, though.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 15, 2010 19:54:55 GMT -5
So is this other possible theme a game in which we are given the character names of moderators vs players? I'm still trying to wrap my head around that fisheroo/story/ed exchange.
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Post by fisheroo on Apr 15, 2010 20:14:02 GMT -5
Maybe I am just being obtuse, but I'm not seeing the confusion.
luv says, 'interesting nameS. Story picks up on the plural and posts while I am composing my long winded post. I say good catch, because to me, it sounds like luv has been comparing his role name with others, and I'm not seeing anywhere in any threads at that time where anyone has said what their name is, so where is his comparison coming from?
Whether or not it was an actual slip has yet to be determined.
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Post by shaggy on Apr 15, 2010 21:04:32 GMT -5
I am luvbwfc.
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Post by special on Apr 15, 2010 23:11:53 GMT -5
So is this other possible theme a game in which we are given the character names of moderators vs players? I'm still trying to wrap my head around that fisheroo/story/ed exchange. Like story, I was thinking shaggy could indicate a scooby doo theme
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Post by ducduc on Apr 16, 2010 0:45:02 GMT -5
I was trying to figure out how people could figure a pattern with just one name. Unless there was some inside knowledge from additional sources. Maybe like fisheroo, I'm obtuse.
I was blessed with Peekercpa's moniker.
So far: storyteller = shaggy ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies = Special Ed NAF1138 = storyteller SpecialEd = Total Lost fisheroo = Sister Coyote shaggy = luvbwfc ducduc = peekercpa
Sorry but lists seem to help me keep track.
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Post by luvbwfc on Apr 16, 2010 1:38:47 GMT -5
I'm Cookies
and did I really take a huge jump to assume straight away that everyone was named after each other? Because I made that jump as soon as I got my role pm.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 16, 2010 2:00:42 GMT -5
Heh. I thought story was just cracking a joke with the scooby doo comment. Just wait till we start attributing the things that players say as what their character said and vice versa.
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Post by luvbwfc on Apr 16, 2010 2:32:37 GMT -5
I was trying to figure out how people could figure a pattern with just one name. It didn't take much figuring. I was named after another player in the game, so I assumed everyone else was. It's not like there was going to be a game with the role names ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies George Bush Batman Wayne Rooney etc I fully expected all names to be in the same theme, and given the name I got it was a damn easy theme to follow.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 16, 2010 2:41:26 GMT -5
That's the secondary title of this game. The primary title being "Mafia Games Game". What else can we whoosh people with now? It's all fun and games until someone starts voting for people because they got whooshed.
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Post by ducduc on Apr 16, 2010 3:32:06 GMT -5
I was trying to figure out how people could figure a pattern with just one name. It didn't take much figuring. I was named after another player in the game, so I assumed everyone else was. It's not like there was going to be a game with the role names ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies George Bush Batman Wayne Rooney etc I fully expected all names to be in the same theme, and given the name I got it was a damn easy theme to follow. I got that part. Easy enough. It just seemed like there was more discussion on what the theme names were than was needed. I assumed everybody has a player name until it got so involved. Batman is cool, as long as he's not jumping out of a closet.... Even raced with Batman last month at Willow Springs. Okay, no relevance there whatsoever.
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Post by Total Ullz on Apr 16, 2010 4:35:22 GMT -5
I'm "ducduc" and once more I fail to see what we can learn from the names. I think we should play mafia now So... doesn't seem like people are lurking in this game and we can move on. I actually like Day 1. I know we're supposed to say that we hate it and that we risk lynching Town. But I think Day 1 often gives us a lot to look back on later in the game. So I really like it. I guess as a group we're all past talking about the random-lynch. We could talk about the balance, I guess - but this game seem really straight forward and therefore I don't think there will be much to discuss. One thing I'm wondering about is if "there is a mafia" indicates that there is only "mafia" and no Godfather... Can you confirm that there is no Godfather in this game?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Apr 16, 2010 5:50:19 GMT -5
If there was a Godfather in this game, then I would have said there was. As I have already said (twice now), there are no roles in this game other than what I have said there were here:
..And you shouldn't even assume all of those power roles made it into the game.
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