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Day 2
Sept 19, 2010 19:21:17 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Sept 19, 2010 19:21:17 GMT -5
As the sun rises over Blockey Manor it becomes clear that absolutely nothing happened all night long. Everyone who'd attempted to do anything all night long found themselves trapped and unable to even get started.
"Well that's sort of a start I suppose"
It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end at approximately 8pm Eastern on Friday.
The living:
1 BillMC: Batman 2 redskeezix: The Corinthian 3 Kat: Gir 4 Inner Stickler: Jack Skellington 5 Sister Coyote: Death of Rats 6 Sinjin: Big Sister 7 Total Lost: Galadriel 8 Timmyfellinthewell: Rorschach 9 Cometothedarksidewehavecookies: Nakor 10 Storyteller: generic homicidal maniac 11 Peekercpa: Curious George 12 FCOD: Joe Bauers 13 Suburban Plankton: Stay Puft Marshmallow man 15 Special Ed: Dr. Rajesh Ramayan Koothrappali 16 Dirx: Lt. Columbo 17 Septimus: Dr. Strangelove 18 Hockey Monkey: Dexter Morgan 19 Natlaw: Nordom the Modron 20 Drain Bead: Buddy Christ 21 NPhase: Iskaral Pust 22 Mahaloth: Zeddicus "Zedd" Zu'l Zorander 23 Paulwhoisaghost: Meeko 24 Duvsie: La Duquesa De Alba 25 Meeko: Marcel Marceau
The Dead:
14 Captain Pinkies: Twilight Fangirl Town Hider
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Sept 19, 2010 19:24:00 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 19, 2010 19:24:00 GMT -5
Well that was anticlimactic!
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Sept 19, 2010 19:27:01 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 19, 2010 19:27:01 GMT -5
Squeek!
(Well, that's intriguing.)
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Sept 19, 2010 19:28:48 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Sept 19, 2010 19:28:48 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of mass roleblock, then? The only other time I saw one was in the Batman game, and I believe that was a one-shot. Very interesting.
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Sept 19, 2010 19:30:52 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 19, 2010 19:30:52 GMT -5
For the record, I received no notification that my attempted kill was unsuccessful, just the post here by Mister Blockey.
Don't know if that has any significance to anyone at all.
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Sept 19, 2010 19:36:50 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 19, 2010 19:36:50 GMT -5
Yay! We all liveded!
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Sept 19, 2010 19:38:34 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Sept 19, 2010 19:38:34 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of mass roleblock, then? The only other time I saw one was in the Batman game, and I believe that was a one-shot. Very interesting. The mazalan game had something similar as well. Town motivation for using a mass block...well it keeps folk alive, but would prevent any investigator(s) gaining any information. Scum motivation for using a mass block...possibly that they would be targeted by the marshmallow or that they had attracted too much attention on day 1 and would be a target for an investigator. so a bit of a null tell overall
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Sept 19, 2010 19:51:03 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 19, 2010 19:51:03 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of mass roleblock, then? The only other time I saw one was in the Batman game, and I believe that was a one-shot. Very interesting. The mini version of this one had that too, and it could be triggered by a player trying to kill the person with that power.
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Sept 19, 2010 19:54:59 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 19, 2010 19:54:59 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of mass roleblock, then? The only other time I saw one was in the Batman game, and I believe that was a one-shot. Very interesting. The mazalan game had something similar as well. Town motivation for using a mass block...well it keeps folk alive, but would prevent any investigator(s) gaining any information. Scum motivation for using a mass block...possibly that they would be targeted by the marshmallow or that they had attracted too much attention on day 1 and would be a target for an investigator. so a bit of a null tell overall Of course, if the marshmallow himself isn't a Vig, he had to realize he'd be the primary target of an actual Vigilante.
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Sept 19, 2010 19:59:59 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 19, 2010 19:59:59 GMT -5
Since absolutely nothing happened last night (except me pacing my room half the night trying to figure out who to target instead of getting a good night's sleep), we seem to have no more knowledge now than we did at Dusk. And now that I've had my first cup of coffee, let's see if we can stir things up a bit.
Curious George, I've got a comment and a couple questions for you...
First, thanks for saving my life and everything. Very much appreciated.
Second, what was up with the Mason claim, 4 minutes before the scheduled End of Day?
Third, I'd like a bit of clarification on Post 428. Just earlier, Marcel had expressed his confusion (to put it lightly) as to why the Town was letting the Compulsive Vig live. I had answered with a joke post ("because I'm fun at parties"), then you responded with
I'm not sure why you'd think I would be aiming for you. You hadn't been lurking, you hadn't said anything particularly controversial during the Day, you saved me from what seemed to be a certain lynch, and you had claimed Mason about 20 minutes earlier.
So what made you think I would possibly target you?
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Sept 19, 2010 20:33:27 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Sept 19, 2010 20:33:27 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me, Stay Puft: I wanted to address some of Marcel's posts at the end of the Day, Yesterday. If you believe puffy to be a vig, then you believe he is town, and thus you wanted us to lynch a townie in order to save other townies. If you somehow knew for a fact that he would only kill townies, and several of them at that, then your argument would have merit. Given that you're not prescient, it does not. <font style="font-size: 12px;">
so you know non participant to be town?I don't understand this as worded. If it is what I think it is, it is rich; letting a vig live. No, beyond that, Extra Rich; letting a compulsory vig live No, beyond that even, Super Extra Rich; Peeker making these comments. The Vig will shoot townies, and no one seems to give a damn.Nothing against Plankton, but Expediency should be the rule, not spray and pray. Underlining mine. So, wait, lemme get this straight. If Puft had claimed non-compulsive vig, you'd still want him dead? Am I reading that right? Because the underlined portion of your posts suggests you have a problem with letting any vig live. You do play Mafia, right? You understand how important a vigilante can be? They can be dangerous too, yes, but that's like saying you'll never fly because of the small chance of a crash. <font style="font-size: 12px;">
SQUEEK (because this:
The Vig will shoot townies, and no one seems to give a damn. is not only horseshit, it's particularly smelly horseshit. The vig may shoot Townies, yes. But I agree with those who are saying we'll get more information letting the Night play out as it plays.):: What ever the fuck I have to do here, can I shoot the rat a bird? :: What do the Odds say for vigs? On first nights especially? When do we kill the vig? We will have to, Scum sure the fuck hell wont. Yes, scum sure the fuck will, under the right circumstances. Even a compulsory vig can be very useful to town, and exceedingly dangerous to scum. How many times has a game come down to a matter of "knowns vs. unknowns"? Rather often, right? Town lynches unknown, vig kills another unknown. The pool for scum to hide in shrinks rapidly. A vig can hurt town in the early game, but they are disastrous to scum later on. Scum will not want to let a vig live that long.
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Sept 19, 2010 20:37:02 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 19, 2010 20:37:02 GMT -5
Boy, I'm feelin' the love right now!
I think I'm gonna need some Irish Whiskey to go with my next cup of coffee. On second though, hold the coffee.
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Sept 19, 2010 20:37:44 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Sept 19, 2010 20:37:44 GMT -5
That's weird.
Well, here we are again. Kind of a "Day One" again kind of situation.
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Sept 19, 2010 20:56:36 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Sept 19, 2010 20:56:36 GMT -5
That's weird. Well, here we are again. Kind of a "Day One" again kind of situation. Sortof, but not quite. A few interesting things happened at the end of Yesterday, and while there were no deaths last Night, something did indeed happen. So, there are many more talking points than there were at the start of Day 1.
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Sept 19, 2010 20:57:06 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 19, 2010 20:57:06 GMT -5
Since absolutely nothing happened last night (except me pacing my room half the night trying to figure out who to target instead of getting a good night's sleep), we seem to have no more knowledge now than we did at Dusk. And now that I've had my first cup of coffee, let's see if we can stir things up a bit. Curious George, I've got a comment and a couple questions for you... First, thanks for saving my life and everything. Very much appreciated. Second, what was up with the Mason claim, 4 minutes before the scheduled End of Day? Third, I'd like a bit of clarification on Post 428. Just earlier, Marcel had expressed his confusion (to put it lightly) as to why the Town was letting the Compulsive Vig live. I had answered with a joke post ("because I'm fun at parties"), then you responded with I'm not sure why you'd think I would be aiming for you. You hadn't been lurking, you hadn't said anything particularly controversial during the Day, you saved me from what seemed to be a certain lynch, and you had claimed Mason about 20 minutes earlier. So what made you think I would possibly target you? when i am not scum they typically want to take my ass out early. i keep the shit stirred up which is not what scum want. also, i want it out there how many masons are in the game. that way as we get a little deeper they will be more confirmed. also it puts it to scum that they can't fake claim mason except on the pain of death. and i sure didn't want a vig taking my ass out. let scum waste a NK. i mean seriously, i have said this a million times. i play this for a team win. i really don't give a shit about my own personal survival. let scum go after my ass, the doc gets to play blink with me and we let our dick go gathering information. which i assume we have. all very good things for town.
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Sept 19, 2010 21:03:47 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 19, 2010 21:03:47 GMT -5
Riddle time! How can Meeko smudge Meeko before the first day, when Meeko's not even there?
Answer in mime?
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Sept 19, 2010 21:08:53 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 19, 2010 21:08:53 GMT -5
Boy, I'm feelin' the love right now! I think I'm gonna need some Irish Whiskey to go with my next cup of coffee. On second though, hold the coffee. don't feel overly special. dirx always gives a reach around to the newbs.
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Sept 19, 2010 21:09:12 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 19, 2010 21:09:12 GMT -5
Riddle time! How can Meeko smudge Meeko before the first day, when Meeko's not even there? Answer in mime? are we assuming that time travel is not possible?
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Sept 19, 2010 21:25:23 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 19, 2010 21:25:23 GMT -5
are we assuming that time travel is not possible? I can assure you it's not possible on Day 3...
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Sept 19, 2010 21:28:21 GMT -5
Post by special on Sept 19, 2010 21:28:21 GMT -5
are we assuming that time travel is not possible? I can assure you it's not possible on Day 3... You mean you did assure me on day 3
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Sept 19, 2010 21:39:04 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 19, 2010 21:39:04 GMT -5
I can assure you it's not possible on Day 3... You mean you did assure me on day 3 Well, I will have told you...rather I had told...err...it's rather complicated... I suggest you refer to Dr. Dan Streetmentioner's "Time Traveler's Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations". I can't recall the page number, but it's in the section immediately following the Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional.
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Sept 19, 2010 21:39:54 GMT -5
Post by timmy on Sept 19, 2010 21:39:54 GMT -5
Rorschach's Journal Day 2
Slept well for a change. Very unusual. Looked around, saw everything was same as I left it. Except for one member missing: Twilight Fangirl. She never stood a chance, another innocent sacrificed so that Town may learn who she was. Pity. I never had the chance to meet her.
The odd malaise I felt at Dusk hasn't lifted. Still in quandary about who is what. I expect answers toDay.
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Sept 19, 2010 21:47:34 GMT -5
Post by timmy on Sept 19, 2010 21:47:34 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of mass roleblock, then? The only other time I saw one was in the Batman game, and I believe that was a one-shot. Very interesting. The mini version of this one had that too, and it could be triggered by a player trying to kill the person with that power. **Rorschach makes a note of this** I'm not familiar with a mass roleblock. Wonder which side might have caused it: Town or Scum? A roleblocker can belong to either side, or both in the same game. Perhaps there are roleblockers on either side and they blocked the same target, or each other by accident. Will have to think on this.
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Sept 19, 2010 21:52:15 GMT -5
Post by timmy on Sept 19, 2010 21:52:15 GMT -5
when i am not scum they typically want to take my ass out early. i keep the shit stirred up which is not what scum want. also, i want it out there how many masons are in the game. that way as we get a little deeper they will be more confirmed. also it puts it to scum that they can't fake claim mason except on the pain of death. and i sure didn't want a vig taking my ass out. let scum waste a NK. i mean seriously, i have said this a million times. i play this for a team win. i really don't give a shit about my own personal survival. Very commendable. Doing exactly what a Town player ought to. Can you clarify what you mean here? What would you have a doc do?
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Sept 19, 2010 21:54:29 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Sept 19, 2010 21:54:29 GMT -5
Play chicken!
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Sept 19, 2010 22:36:02 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Sept 19, 2010 22:36:02 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of mass roleblock, then? The only other time I saw one was in the Batman game, and I believe that was a one-shot. Very interesting. The mini version of this one had that too, and it could be triggered by a player trying to kill the person with that power. **Rorschach makes a note of this** I'm not familiar with a mass roleblock. Wonder which side might have caused it: Town or Scum? A roleblocker can belong to either side, or both in the same game. Perhaps there are roleblockers on either side and they blocked the same target, or each other by accident. Will have to think on this. I thought about this earlier, and the only way it makes sense is if it were a mass roleblock. I did target someone last night, and I was blocked. Scum did not make a kill last night, so either they chose not to kill, or they were blocked. I seriously doubt they would pass up making a kill on Night 1, so that means a second RB got lucky and blocked the right Scum. Furthermore, either the Doctor did not protect anyone, or else we have a third RB. Also, there are no trackers (or at least none that used their abilities) unless there are 4 or more RB. So we wither have a case where we have a whole mess of Role Blockers, and they all made real good guesses, or we have a bunch of Power Roles who sat on their collective asses all Night long. Neither of these scenarios make any sense, so we're left with 'Mass Roleblock' as the only real possibility. What I can't figure out is why? This has to be a one-time ability, so why use it now? Unless it was triggered by the person being targeted for a kill. Would this sort of Power be more likely to be given to Town, or Scum?
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Sept 19, 2010 22:52:23 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Sept 19, 2010 22:52:23 GMT -5
**Rorschach makes a note of this** I'm not familiar with a mass roleblock. Wonder which side might have caused it: Town or Scum? A roleblocker can belong to either side, or both in the same game. Perhaps there are roleblockers on either side and they blocked the same target, or each other by accident. Will have to think on this. I thought about this earlier, and the only way it makes sense is if it were a mass roleblock. I did target someone last night, and I was blocked. Scum did not make a kill last night, so either they chose not to kill, or they were blocked. I seriously doubt they would pass up making a kill on Night 1, so that means a second RB got lucky and blocked the right Scum. Furthermore, either the Doctor did not protect anyone, or else we have a third RB. Also, there are no trackers (or at least none that used their abilities) unless there are 4 or more RB. So we wither have a case where we have a whole mess of Role Blockers, and they all made real good guesses, or we have a bunch of Power Roles who sat on their collective asses all Night long. Neither of these scenarios make any sense, so we're left with 'Mass Roleblock' as the only real possibility. What I can't figure out is why? This has to be a one-time ability, so why use it now? Unless it was triggered by the person being targeted for a kill. Would this sort of Power be more likely to be given to Town, or Scum? Also, color may just be color, so take it with a grain of salt but the moderator did say:"As the sun rises over Blockey Manor it becomes clear that absolutely nothing happened all night long." (italics added) This is what is really making me think mass roleblock (along with no dead people this morning).
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Sept 19, 2010 22:53:30 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Sept 19, 2010 22:53:30 GMT -5
Assuming it was a voluntary action...
Could have been a townie, with the intent of blocking your compulsive kill, as well as the scum kill and any other potential shenanigans performed by them or other anti-town parties.
Could also have been scum, with the intent of keeping us in a pseudo-Day-1 state, or, as mentioned already, in case one of them had gained a bit of heat, and they were worried a vig or cop would target them. But it's hard to believe scum would forfeit their kill and any actions on Night 1 (though it's possible that the mass roleblock only affected non-scum actions, and any non-killing actions they had still went through, but that also doesn't seem very likely. Seems rather potentially powerful). But it may be worth looking into who earned what amount of suspicion Yesterday, in case the roleblock was a scum defensive tactic. Without looking back yet, I don't feel like anyone got enough heat Yesterday to warrant a mass-roleblock. Maybe Iskaral, idunno. If it is the case, I would assume that the scum in question is worth a lot to the scum team, because I'd expect this mass-roleblock to be a one-shot or otherwise limited use.
Or it could have been a 3rd party/PFK, with the intent of god knows what.
I'm leaning towards town, unless someone can suggest a better reason for scum to pull this kind of stunt right now.
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Sept 19, 2010 23:01:03 GMT -5
Post by timmy on Sept 19, 2010 23:01:03 GMT -5
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Sept 19, 2010 23:04:42 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 19, 2010 23:04:42 GMT -5
Furthermore, either the Doctor did not protect anyone, or else we have a third RB. Also, there are no trackers (or at least none that used their abilities) unless there are 4 or more RB. I follow your various deductions except this one. With a precedent of a passive mass role-block upon a certain role being targeted for a kill in the Halloween Mafia lexicon, Occam's Razor would seem to favor something like that happening so early and for reasons that are difficult to imagine. If Mr. Puffy is to be believed, he knows the identity of at least one person who was targeted for a kill last night. This is not a request for that information, at least not yet, nor is it a request for any holder of a hypothetical mass-roleblock power to claim having let off an EMP last night. But in the absence of the usual intel brought about by death and power interactions, such information coming forward may provide what little context can be harvested from last Night.
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