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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 3, 2011 20:40:01 GMT -5
Howdy folks!
I was a quite surprised to wake up dead...but it beats being lynched by my fellow Townies, so I guess that's a step in the right direction?
Any thoughts on why I was targeted?
FTR, I'm not spoilered and don't want to be...I generally like to 'keep playing' even after I'm dead (at least, I do when I'm Town).
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Post by BobArrgh on Jan 4, 2011 12:37:04 GMT -5
FTR, I'm not spoilered and don't want to be...I generally like to 'keep playing' even after I'm dead (at least, I do when I'm Town). Please forgive me if this is a slight hijack or if I am not posting in the proper place. I'm learning the ins-and-outs of the online format. burby, what do you mean by "I'm not spoilered and don't want to be"? What is "being spoilered"? If this is not the right place for the question, please feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 4, 2011 13:00:38 GMT -5
FTR, I'm not spoilered and don't want to be...I generally like to 'keep playing' even after I'm dead (at least, I do when I'm Town). Please forgive me if this is a slight hijack or if I am not posting in the proper place. I'm learning the ins-and-outs of the online format. burby, what do you mean by "I'm not spoilered and don't want to be"? What is "being spoilered"? If this is not the right place for the question, please feel free to point me in the right direction. Thanks. Generally, the mods of each game keep a 'spoiler board' where all information about this game is available (roles, abilities, etc.). Such a board required a password for access, and the location of the board is kept secret until the game is concluded. People who are not participating in the game and players who have been eliminated from the game can request access to the 'spoiler board', which generally also includes a discussion area for folks to critique the game in real time. So if you don't want to 'play along from home' but instead prefer to know who's who from the beginning (or from the point at which you're killed), you can ask to be 'spoiled'. This thread, on the other hand, is 'non-spoiled'. Although it is off-limits to active players, there is nothing preventing them from reading it other than the honor system. For that reason, only speculation and general discussion are allowed here; no 'private information' can be shared. Former Scum, for example, can't 'out' their scum buddies here, just in case a current player decides to peek. Hope that helps...
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Post by BobArrgh on Jan 4, 2011 13:03:55 GMT -5
Yes, it helped. I was not aware that non-players could request access to the secret board. Good to know for the future.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 4, 2011 14:20:21 GMT -5
Although it is off-limits to active players, there is nothing preventing them from reading it other than the honor system. Furthermore, this board will show up in people doing searches by a given poster. So if that poster is a former player posts a spoiler here, a player can innocently come across it when doing a review of that player's posting history.
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Post by BobArrgh on Jan 4, 2011 16:57:56 GMT -5
Oh ... that's a pretty important thing to know which I had not considered. Good tip.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jan 5, 2011 9:37:58 GMT -5
Hm. Coherent Peek. Must be scum.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 5, 2011 11:08:08 GMT -5
Don't you think storyteller is putting on an awfully vehement defense for a guy who currently has zero votes against him?
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 6, 2011 10:21:23 GMT -5
Sure, I could. I NEVER said that I wasn't allowed to tell. But what would it gain you (hypothesizing that you are Town)? What would it gain any Town player? Other than satisfying that niggling need to know a thing just because it's presently unknown? And story takes another step closer to understanding how I play the game.
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 6, 2011 14:29:06 GMT -5
(And yes, I have to post my results in verse.) Liar. There are no post restrictions.
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 6, 2011 14:39:21 GMT -5
Mod cleanup in aisle 6. I am not spoiled, so it's not like reading the post Ed responded could contain any prejudicial material.
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 6, 2011 16:45:05 GMT -5
Oh, and one other PM, because I asked for clarification about "in verse": Bizarre claim, since we know there are no post restrictions.
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 7, 2011 10:52:30 GMT -5
Argh, why are they lynching Charr? If they're town, it's a mislynch, if they're scum, they can't Night kill if they aren't participating at all.
And we have three excellent candidates for lynching: 1) crazypunker, who survived a lynch without any indication of town alignment. 2) Hockeymonkey, who has claimed an implausible third-party role. 3) Sister Coyote, who is clearly lying about having a post restriction.
Town deserves to lose at this point by refusing to lynch the obvious anti-town players.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 7, 2011 12:07:34 GMT -5
Argh, why are they lynching Charr? If they're town, it's a mislynch, if they're scum, they can't Night kill if they aren't participating at all. I'd be making the same case if I'd still been alive. Leave Charr alone, and lynch him if there are at least two Nights without a death.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 7, 2011 14:40:23 GMT -5
Argh, why are they lynching Charr? If they're town, it's a mislynch, if they're scum, they can't Night kill if they aren't participating at all. And we have three excellent candidates for lynching: 1) crazypunker, who survived a lynch without any indication of town alignment. 2) Hockeymonkey, who has claimed an implausible third-party role. 3) Sister Coyote, who is clearly lying about having a post restriction. Town deserves to lose at this point by refusing to lynch the obvious anti-town players. Agree on Charr...though I can understand why some want to lynch him. It's a feeling of "if you're going to sign up, you need to play...and if you aren't going to play then we're going to get rid of you". It's an emotional play, though not a logical one. I'm not so sure on Sister Coyote. She made a good point in her last post Again -- I think the fundamental disconnect here is whether or not "you can post anything" is equivalent to "you can post anything in any fashion you wish despite what your role PM says." The way i see it, she and storyteller are making the same argument regarding their 'restrictions'. I don't see SisC inventing a restriction after seeing the heat that story has already drawn. Right now, I'm leaning toward them both being truthful about their "posting restrictions". Now, whether or not that means they're being truthful about being Town is another question...
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 7, 2011 15:30:13 GMT -5
Being required to post results in verse is a posting restriction, pretty much by definition. It's a limit on what you can post. I can't see any way Coyote's claimed role is consistent with the rules.
As for storyteller, not having your votes count is consistent with the rules. Not being able to post a vote is a post restriction. There's not really enough information to make a decision based on that. I don't think there's a good case for lynch story. Revealing some information about one's role and choosing not to reveal more is a null tell.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 7, 2011 17:42:59 GMT -5
To me it seems pretty obvious that story can't post a vote, simply because he hasn't posted one yet. He's taken to posting in bold yellow to tell us who he would be voting for if he could, but he has not posted a vote.
So by your definition that's a 'posting restriction'. Unless he's perfectly capable of voting and chooses not to, which is still possible but defies explanation.
Personally, I'd call what both story and SisC are claiming to be 'posting restrictions', and therefore inconsistent with the stated rules. And that may be the case; maybe they're both Scum. I thought story was Scummy for this very reason, but now that SisC has claimed a similar restriction I've backed off on that.
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 10, 2011 10:35:58 GMT -5
So town mislynches an AWOL townie for absolutely no gain. Not looking good.
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Post by BillMc on Jan 10, 2011 17:17:01 GMT -5
So town mislynches an AWOL townie for absolutely no gain. Not looking good. very disappointing indeed
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Post by Rysto on Jan 10, 2011 19:47:21 GMT -5
I really have no clue what on earth they were thinking. Too many people play this game emotionally instead of logically and it drives me crazy. Two of the mislynches in this game have happened because of this.
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Post by Rysto on Jan 10, 2011 20:50:31 GMT -5
Wow, if it weren't for whoever's been offing the scum at Night, the Town would be in pretty big trouble.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 10, 2011 21:25:53 GMT -5
I'm guessing a "Town Sacrificial Doctor" gives up her own life to save someone else...but it doesn't sound like that would also include a retaliatory strike...which would mean that CIAS' death was the work of a Vig/SK, right? Or perhaps some other, more esoteric method, but in any case not as a result of Cookies' power.
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Post by Rysto on Jan 10, 2011 21:27:37 GMT -5
That would be my assumption. It looks like a Vig, except that NAF died when there were two much better targets available.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 10, 2011 22:58:04 GMT -5
If it's a Vig then they seem to be doing a bang-up job, when they actually do anything at all. We've had 5 Nights with only 2 extra deaths...maybe somebody is setting traps for Night Killers? But that would imply that NAF made the kill on Night 3 himself, which seems a bit odd.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jan 10, 2011 23:27:11 GMT -5
Howdy y'all
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jan 11, 2011 1:32:50 GMT -5
Can I be spoiled, please?
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Post by CatInASuit on Jan 11, 2011 5:12:08 GMT -5
Well that sucks, spoilers please.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 14, 2011 12:16:54 GMT -5
I don't get what Ed is doing here...
He is bemoaning the fact that nobody else will help him lynch storyteller, even though he isn't actually voting for story at the time in the first place. But he's swayed by story's argument against Hockey Monkey.
So what does he do? He changes his vote so he's voting for HM, who just happens to be is the only person currently trying to lynch story.
Am I missing something?
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 14, 2011 12:59:50 GMT -5
The quality of an argument against a player is independent of the alignment of the player making the argument. In other words, townies sometimes make poor arguments and scum sometimes make good arguments.
In this case, Ed might think story is scum, but that doesn't mean story cannot make a pro-town argument. In fact, it's generally good play for scum to make pro-town arguments, since it's exactly what townies should be doing.
I agree with them that Monkey needs to die. There is no evidence independent of Monkey's assertions that indicates inclusive win conditions.
crazypunker also needs to die, for avoiding the lynch.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 14, 2011 15:19:39 GMT -5
The quality of an argument against a player is independent of the alignment of the player making the argument. In other words, townies sometimes make poor arguments and scum sometimes make good arguments. This is true, but somehow I can't help thinking Ed is trying to play both sides of the fence here. Maybe it's just me; I seem to find whatever Ed does to be suspicious lately...
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