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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 8, 2011 15:31:22 GMT -5
NETA and that is in no way meant to be a smudge on guiri or the mod; just that I have experience with both of them as Scum in games I've moderated adn tehy were the first two examples to occur to me.
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Post by Dirx on Sept 8, 2011 16:49:03 GMT -5
So at the moment there is really only 1 scum and 4 potential scum.
Where are you getting 4? The posted role description and PM don't give a specific number of recruits.Coincidentally, there are 4 recruits in this scenario, but that's only because that's when scum outnumber town. I probably would have kept going otherwise. @ Dirx, are you accusing Silver Jan of PIS? Your own numbers imply 1+4 scum. Yes, my numbers included 4 recruits, and you quoted the reason why. Twice. It's just how many were needed for the fastest scum win. I was going for a worst-case scenario. As for PIS; yes, I was thinking maybe there was that, but I also considered the possibility that there was info I had missed or something. So, a minor implication, but I wasn't so cocky as to think I'd caught scum so early. Also, holy hell quoting is effed up with proboards. This is the reason I don't play here more often.
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Post by Dirx on Sept 8, 2011 16:50:17 GMT -5
NETA: oh, and the size goes completely bonkers after posting, too. Looked fine in Preview. GAH! I'm playing my next game as Godzilla, just so I can stomp things.
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Post by guiri on Sept 8, 2011 17:20:23 GMT -5
Well, that's just it. As MPP, I might even go with random.org, trying not to skew toward players I figured wouldn't survive Night One. I'm sure metagamey reasons play into it, but do you go for the players everyone seems to have a consensus on? (for example, Guiri, you and Ed would both be on my list of "players who make damn good scum") Or do you instead go for those who have a history of surviving to end game? Or something more Random, or do you avoid players who you know other people think you have a good or bad history with? While they're not mutually exclusive characteristics, if there are 4 recruits, one of each sounds like a good strategy: the biggest threat, a survivor, a buddy and someone random!
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Post by guiri on Sept 8, 2011 17:32:54 GMT -5
Yes, my numbers included 4 recruits, and you quoted the reason why. Twice. It's just how many were needed for the fastest scum win. I was going for a worst-case scenario. OK, I can see how you got to 4 then. As for PIS; yes, I was thinking maybe there was that, but I also considered the possibility that there was info I had missed or something. So, a minor implication, but I wasn't so cocky as to think I'd caught scum so early. I thought it looked like PIS too, given her matter-of-fact phrasing, but I also thought I saw an inconsistency in your accusation, given your own calculations. I'd like to hear Silver Jan's answer to your question in #13.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 8, 2011 17:33:27 GMT -5
In otherwords, a whole mess of shit designed solely to mess with established meta.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Sept 8, 2011 18:14:43 GMT -5
Another thing to think about, if we're considering what reasoning the MPP could use to pick people, is people he would want to neutralize as power roles. Now, the town power roles are obviously assigned at random, but if it were me, I would pick players who I knew were smart, that would use power roles effectively or could second-guess my recruiting.
I mean, I guess that kind of falls under the same category as picking people they'd think would be good scum, just the opposite way.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 8, 2011 18:26:11 GMT -5
If I were the MPP, I'd pick people that I knew were going to not get lynched right away and that were definitely going to be playing the game regularly. But unless anyone has an idea who the MPP is, this discussion will only come in useful as a reference in the days down the line. I know I don't really feel like making a possible recruits list for all of the other players.
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Post by texcat on Sept 8, 2011 19:05:06 GMT -5
I'd like to see Silver Jan's explanation for her 4 recruit comment. Where is she?
It seems like we are going to be at a disadvantage not having much of a voting record to analyze. Today we only have the MPP who knows who his future scum partners will be. Other future pods might unknowingly bus each other like crazy.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 8, 2011 19:08:53 GMT -5
i agree that the whole who would mpp pick to be teammates is fascinating. because guir and bill would be at the top of my list if i were mpp. and there are a couple of others in this game that are pretty damn close. but i also wouldn't pick 'em because any moron would come to that conclusion as well so they would be on the top of the list for lynching. and it is a little bit ironic that if they are town they would almost want to lay down as town so they could win on their original wincon. but crap you don't want to pick a bunch of yahoos, either. i think the postgame will be almost as much fun as the game.
and i know it can't happen but fucking recruit story and see how much power it would take for him to get screwed off the ceiling.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 8, 2011 19:16:36 GMT -5
Silver Jan is probably asleep. I think 5 pm my time is like 1 am her time. So it'll be a little bit.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 8, 2011 21:02:29 GMT -5
Silver Jan is probably asleep. I think 5 pm my time is like 1 am her time. So it'll be a little bit. ouchie inner. serious ouchy.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 8, 2011 21:16:21 GMT -5
She's in Africa somewhere.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 8, 2011 21:20:27 GMT -5
and just to let you know i tried to play on 2x2. those folks are clowns. there was something like 2k plus posts on the first Day. and 95 percent were fluff or bullshit. i got modkilled because i only made about 15 posts in 2 Days over about a 4 rl window. everyone over there relys on dick invests. but they kind of have to because there is no intelligent stuff going on just a bunch of crud. i am glad to be with you folks. at least if i get nailed someone has a reason as opposed to just having a hard on.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 8, 2011 21:24:14 GMT -5
She's in Africa somewhere. mercenary or missionary?
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 9, 2011 2:00:10 GMT -5
So at the moment there is really only 1 scum and 4 potential scum. Where are you getting 4? The posted role description and PM don't give a specific number of recruits. I'm here finally. I thought I'd read 4 recruits somewhere but obviously I didn't, I just went back and checked and it said X not 4
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 9, 2011 2:02:22 GMT -5
She's in Africa somewhere. mercenary or missionary? Mercenary, obviously. I am in South Africa.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 9, 2011 10:23:01 GMT -5
I thought that was the case but wasn't 100% sure and too lazy to go look on Giraffe to see.
I'm leaving my vote on sturm until he shows up.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 9, 2011 11:06:52 GMT -5
Why sturm who has posted even if it's just a joke vote and not Deni or Red Skeezix who haven't shown up at all yet? And why sturm over the other players who have only posted once or twice and then disappeared?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 9, 2011 11:18:06 GMT -5
I dunno. Skeez has a tendency not to post early in the game, and Deni's kind of MIA over on Giraffe, too. And something about sturm's confirmation in the Night thread, joke LOLcat or not, bugs me.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 9, 2011 11:21:29 GMT -5
Like it feels forced?
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Post by guiri on Sept 9, 2011 11:29:59 GMT -5
Where are you getting 4? The posted role description and PM don't give a specific number of recruits. I'm here finally. I thought I'd read 4 recruits somewhere but obviously I didn't, I just went back and checked and it said X not 4 Was it in your role PM? Are you the MPP? Vote Silver JanSlightly better than a random or joke vote.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 9, 2011 11:40:55 GMT -5
Hmm.
I don't know where to start, now that I think about it.
That's a nice lot of theory but the only thing I can see with *some* substance to it is the accusations of PIS against Silver Jan.
Still not sure if that's worth a vote at this point though.
Anyway a lot of people need to pop their heads in from lurkerville and comment on this before I'll get a feel on who I want to vote.
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Post by Drain Bead on Sept 9, 2011 11:51:08 GMT -5
Unvote: peeker Vote: guiri Based on my silly theory about PIS, and the person pointing it out being Scum. Thank God ed's the mod here because he hates it.
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Post by sturmhauke on Sept 9, 2011 11:57:59 GMT -5
I dunno. Skeez has a tendency not to post early in the game, and Deni's kind of MIA over on Giraffe, too. And something about sturm's confirmation in the Night thread, joke LOLcat or not, bugs me. So, if I am the MPP, which right now is the only role that knows it's a pod person, what you're saying is you think I'm hiding in plain sight by making dumb jokes. That about right?
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Post by BillMc on Sept 9, 2011 12:03:14 GMT -5
Alright, I guess I'll be the first to offer something of substance I was going to ask what substance - but I agree with your analysis I don't see any harm speculating on possible strategies for selection as a topic of conversation but it's WIFOM, what happens if everyone agrees that Bill would be the optimal N1 recruit? I'm not sure how to take that --- shock maybe --- everyone in agreement?? i agree that the whole who would mpp pick to be teammates is fascinating. because guir and bill would be at the top of my list if i were mpp. I seem to be flavour of the month!
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Post by BillMc on Sept 9, 2011 12:07:57 GMT -5
I'm here finally. I thought I'd read 4 recruits somewhere but obviously I didn't, I just went back and checked and it said X not 4 Was it in your role PM? Are you the MPP? Vote Silver JanSlightly better than a random or joke vote. So X=4? I'm not convinced about your algebraic slip Vote: Jan
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 9, 2011 12:16:13 GMT -5
I'm here finally. I thought I'd read 4 recruits somewhere but obviously I didn't, I just went back and checked and it said X not 4 Was it in your role PM? Are you the MPP? Vote Silver JanSlightly better than a random or joke vote. Do you really think that if I was the MPP that i would say something so thoughtless, and in my first post nogal?
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 9, 2011 12:18:02 GMT -5
NETA cos If I was that stupid it would be game over before it started
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 9, 2011 12:18:07 GMT -5
nogal?
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