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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 8:55:36 GMT -5
And I gave my full report yesterday. I'm on my phone and I can't copy/paste it right now. When I get in front of a PC I will. Or if someone would be so kind to do it for me I'd appreciate it
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 8:58:03 GMT -5
I have no clue how or why I "showed up" in your room Peekers. All I know is that I tracked you night 1 and was told you were in your room. That's the beginning and end of it. Anything else only Pollux can answer
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 19, 2012 9:10:40 GMT -5
Meh. If I recall it was N1-Peeker-never left his room N2-ATPG-never left his room N3-Parzival-visited BillMC N4-blocked.
None of this is verifiable which sucks if you're town but can't be helped.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 9:28:57 GMT -5
regardless of what you fine folks think i am working for a town win although that does not include me winning, unfortunately. but the attitude that some folks are exhibiting is a trifle unsettling, to say the least. it seems like irritated scum to me. or third parties that can't win with town. whathteheckeva. Peeker, help me uncerstand the first sentence here. It looks like you're saying that you are working for a Town win, even though that means you won't win. Either I'm interpreting you incorrectly, or you're playing to lose.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 9:51:10 GMT -5
Pizza,
I'm trying to parse all of the information you've given us, and figure out what is 'knowledge gained from investigations' vs. what is 'conjecture based on observation'.
I believe you're saying that you have scanned the following players and found them to be Nonhostile:
sinjin story SisC Cookies
and since you claim to know their roles and have provided a list of 'Living Roles' with four missing player names, that makes them (in no particular order)
Princess Peach The Riddler Ascetic Monk [Name removed]
Is this correct?
I no note that you explicitly list Princess Peach and The Riddler as 'unspecified player', while you don't do that for the other two; I don't know if that's a significant difference or simply inconsistent formatting.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 10:02:50 GMT -5
I was so hoping to get a reliable result that could be tracked and give some cred today but the effing massive block killed those chances. Give me a night and I'll have something tomorrow.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Oct 19, 2012 10:15:28 GMT -5
neta: vote dizzy. vote storydizzy for being in my room and the related explanations which frankly seem odd. i mean watcher/tracker. don't those roles typically work from afar. i mean if the watcher/tracker is on my ass don't you think i will notice them and tell them to shoo away. of course, if they have a hatchet in their hand then maybe i don't get much further than that. story because frankly this game is in his wheelhouse. enough folks stirring the pot that drive by analysis can look einsteinian. he plays this part to perfection since the mf is about as cagey as they come. is this your way of trying to get lynched? you keep harping that dizzy said was in your room when she never did. seems you're trying to piss off people so they vote you. sorry, won't work.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Oct 19, 2012 10:21:40 GMT -5
Meh. If I recall it was N1-Peeker-never left his room N2-ATPG-never left his room N3-Parzival-visited BillMC N4-blocked. None of this is verifiable which sucks if you're town but can't be helped. except N1. peeker admitted he didn't do anything.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 19, 2012 10:46:00 GMT -5
story because frankly this game is in his wheelhouse. enough folks stirring the pot that drive by analysis can look einsteinian. he plays this part to perfection since the mf is about as cagey as they come. Except pizza has story on his non-hostile list. Now, he may have been recruited, I suppose, but I'm disinclined to think he has. vote: dizzymisslizzy
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 19, 2012 11:59:04 GMT -5
regardless of what you fine folks think i am working for a town win although that does not include me winning, unfortunately. but the attitude that some folks are exhibiting is a trifle unsettling, to say the least. it seems like irritated scum to me. or third parties that can't win with town. whathteheckeva. Peeker, help me uncerstand the first sentence here. It looks like you're saying that you are working for a Town win, even though that means you won't win. Either I'm interpreting you incorrectly, or you're playing to lose. no what i was trying to say is that if i have a course of action to take it will be made with trying to help town win. not scum or any other various factions that might exist. my wincon is unique to me and is not predicated on any side winning. that is why i can win as well as any other side or sides or individuals depending on what their wincons might be. matter of fact my winning potentially helps certain sides depending on what transpires if i win (do i keep playing, does the rest of the crowd get to know, do i beam off into the straosphere, etc.).
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 19, 2012 12:05:02 GMT -5
neta: vote dizzy. vote storydizzy for being in my room and the related explanations which frankly seem odd. i mean watcher/tracker. don't those roles typically work from afar. i mean if the watcher/tracker is on my ass don't you think i will notice them and tell them to shoo away. of course, if they have a hatchet in their hand then maybe i don't get much further than that. story because frankly this game is in his wheelhouse. enough folks stirring the pot that drive by analysis can look einsteinian. he plays this part to perfection since the mf is about as cagey as they come. is this your way of trying to get lynched? you keep harping that dizzy said was in your room when she never did. seems you're trying to piss off people so they vote you. sorry, won't work. well i could probably just edit something on the order of 100 posts and get lynched that way but it does not feel to be in the spirit of the game. and i am a relatively safe lynch. methinks you folks must think i am a win stealer or some sort of joker. but see the first sentance and if that is the case i could have ended this on D1. also, no way in hell does pollux give me that kind of role based on my penchant for making early departures.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 12:51:14 GMT -5
Why don't you just go ahead and claim, peeker? Tell us exactly what your abilities and wincon are, and maybe we'll decide to help you.. It all depends on what's in it for the rest of us Otherwise, I don't think you're likely to get much help.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 12:57:27 GMT -5
It's possible to deduce things based on the fact that two people cannot be the same role and we have a partial role list already. Going by Pollux Oil's suggested role list, which obviously left off a few surprises. LIVING ROLESAnti-Vigilante/speculator - Askthepizzaguy Blade runner- Askthepizzaguy's mason partner Joker (Return to Arkham Mafia)- Inner SticklerPrincess Peach [nonhostile]- unspecified player The Riddler (Arkham Knights Mafia) - Chia Bingo Riddler [interesting, that]- unspecified player Ascetic Monk (unknown game) - Nonhostile [Name removed]- nonhostileUnknown/ Help Me Fill In This ListAlice (Wonderland Mafia) Ash (Evil Dead Mafia) Ben Gunn (Pirate Mafia) Chia Bingo Manager (Asylum Lane) - compare with "Chia Bingo Riddler" unsure what this means.Deadeye Dick (Pirate Mafia) Death of Rats (Halloween Mafia) Generic Homicidal Maniac (Halloween Mafia) Jesus Christ, Serial Killer (NSFW Mafia) Master of the Deck of Dragons (Malazan Mafia) Necromancer (Conspiracy Mafia) Solomon Grundy (Return to Arkham Mafia) War (Apocalypse Mafia) Zhang Bao (Three Kingdoms Mafia) DEAD ROLES4. mahaloth, aka Arthur Dent (Nonhostile Third-Party One-Shot Killer), lynched Day One6. Pleonast, aka The Anti-Lurker (Town Investigator), lynched Day Two 25. guiri, aka Tim the Enchanter (Town Doctor), killed Day Two24. scathach, aka Sander Cohen (Nonhostile Third-Party Back-Up), killed Night Two10. wombat99, aka Professor X (Town Weak Doc/Bodyguard), killed Night Two21. Parzival, aka Zeddicus Z'ul Zorander (Scum Weak Cop), killed Night Three15. KidVermicious, aka The Demon (Hostile Third-Party Special), killed Night Three.26. Silver Jan, aka Hex (Scum One-Shot Recruiter), lynched Day Four8. BillMc, aka Diddy Kong (Town Special) is dead.Can you folks who have claimed help me fill in my list. I have been working on this for a while and I don't want to try to go back and find all your claim information.Some roles are missing from the list entirely, so if yours isn't on the list, keep quiet or start breadcrumbing/hopefully you already have so its not obvious. If you have breadcrumbed and want me to find it, raise your hand. You missed that Meeko has confirmed that he is Deadeye Dick - Day 4, Post 294
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 19, 2012 12:58:51 GMT -5
And miss lizzie claimed Zhang Bao, did she not?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 13:04:07 GMT -5
And miss lizzie claimed Zhang Bao, did she not? Yes, and Red claimed Death of Rats. But those both came after Pizza's original post, so I figured he'd pick up on those. I suppose I could have simply updated his list, but it didn't actually occur to me to do so.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 13:13:23 GMT -5
I've taken Pizza's orignal list and added in the missing Role Claims. I've also added in peeker as Ironman/Deadpool, which was missing from the original list.
LIVING ROLES
Anti-Vigilante/speculator - Askthepizzaguy Blade runner- Askthepizzaguy's mason partner Joker (Return to Arkham Mafia)- Inner Stickler Princess Peach [nonhostile]- unspecified player The Riddler (Arkham Knights Mafia) - Chia Bingo Riddler [interesting, that]- unspecified player Ascetic Monk (unknown game) - Nonhostile [Name removed]- nonhostile Deadeye Dick (Pirate Mafia) - Meeko (claimed) Death of Rats (Halloween Mafia) - Red Skeezix (claimed) Zhang Bao (Three Kingdoms Mafia) - dizzymrslizzy (claimed) Ironman/Deadpool - peekercpa
Unknown/ Help Me Fill In This List
Alice (Wonderland Mafia) Ash (Evil Dead Mafia) Ben Gunn (Pirate Mafia) Chia Bingo Manager (Asylum Lane) - compare with "Chia Bingo Riddler" unsure what this means. Generic Homicidal Maniac (Halloween Mafia) Jesus Christ, Serial Killer (NSFW Mafia) Master of the Deck of Dragons (Malazan Mafia) Necromancer (Conspiracy Mafia) Solomon Grundy (Return to Arkham Mafia) War (Apocalypse Mafia)
DEAD ROLES
4. mahaloth, aka Arthur Dent (Nonhostile Third-Party One-Shot Killer), lynched Day One 6. Pleonast, aka The Anti-Lurker (Town Investigator), lynched Day Two 25. guiri, aka Tim the Enchanter (Town Doctor), killed Day Two 24. scathach, aka Sander Cohen (Nonhostile Third-Party Back-Up), killed Night Two 10. wombat99, aka Professor X (Town Weak Doc/Bodyguard), killed Night Two 21. Parzival, aka Zeddicus Z'ul Zorander (Scum Weak Cop), killed Night Three 15. KidVermicious, aka The Demon (Hostile Third-Party Special), killed Night Three. 26. Silver Jan, aka Hex (Scum One-Shot Recruiter), lynched Day Four 8. BillMc, aka Diddy Kong (Town Special) is dead.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 19, 2012 14:20:29 GMT -5
Meh. If I recall it was N1-Peeker-never left his room N2-ATPG-never left his room N3-Parzival-visited BillMC N4-blocked. None of this is verifiable which sucks if you're town but can't be helped. Say she is town. Maybe we need to take a look at Parzival? I'm playing devil's advocate right now, while waiting for crumbs....
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 19, 2012 14:23:55 GMT -5
I have no clue how or why I "showed up" in your room Peekers. All I know is that I tracked you night 1 and was told you were in your room. That's the beginning and end of it. Anything else only Pollux can answer Ok, THIS is fishy. As a watcher, Meeko would see everyone who comes in, not just who killed Peeker. While yes, you may not have killed him, this makes me suspicious... I haven't decided whether we should allow you to live or not, but for now, I will happily vote for you Vote DizzyLizzy
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 19, 2012 14:25:42 GMT -5
I have an idea
In Wonderland, Alice had a power to block all Night kills. (I know because I played the role, and was the person who suggested it)
Maybe her power got twisted? I think I remember her being in the opening color of the game?
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 19, 2012 14:26:54 GMT -5
And my character is not on the list, btw
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 14:32:38 GMT -5
I have no clue how or why I "showed up" in your room Peekers. All I know is that I tracked you night 1 and was told you were in your room. That's the beginning and end of it. Anything else only Pollux can answer Ok, THIS is fishy. As a watcher, Meeko would see everyone who comes in, not just who killed Peeker. While yes, you may not have killed him, this makes me suspicious... I haven't decided whether we should allow you to live or not, but for now, I will happily vote for you Vote DizzyLizzyWhy is that fishy? You said exactly what I was saying, that I was there, and was just tracking. I KNOW I didn't kill him, or attempt to kill him. I was saying that I don't understand the mechanics of how Pollux made the role, ie: obviously a tracker will show up in a room, even though Peekers is flipping out about me being in the room. But Peekers can't blame ME for how My Action and what Meeko viewed are.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 14:51:42 GMT -5
Pizza, the more I'm thinking about you and your buddy, the more I don't like your claims, and I think you are trying to make everyone drink your wine.
How do you explain the extreme amount of power that you and your partners seem to have?
Let me get this straight:
1) YOU: Can Target players at night, which the Vig who you are partnered up with can then shoot at and determine Town vs Other.
2) Your invisible friend: Has full detective powers that can get both Role Name AND Designation and after 4 Day night cycles got 5 Name/Designation results. Can you explain the play by play of how you got these?
1) N3.p47 You Announce that Parzival is Hostile to Town 2)Today - Cookies -NonHostile 3) Today - Story - NonHostile 4) Today - Sister - Non-Hostile 5) Today - Sinjin - Non Hostile Plus you have Role names for all 4 of them.
Other roles like Meekos can only Watch or Track. Crys can be safe from a NK, OR Bite someone. It just seems like a stretch to get so much information.
3) You are Masons and both know your Partner is the same designation as you and you have a private way of communicating.
4) And on top of that, you were supercharged last Night, and are able to keep your supercharge toDay? That doesn't make sense to me either.
Something fishy is going on here. And I'm sure I'm not the only one to feel it. If your PMs do really indicate the above, then well either you and your Partner are a separate faction and NOT Town at all like you claim. OR This game is majorly broken. OR You are lying out your ass, and since you didn't claim anyone was hostile, people aren't being forthcoming and saying "Hey you are wrong, I'm really Hostile to Town"
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 14:53:21 GMT -5
ETA
AKA, other old players please correct me if I'm wrong, but in my first game it was explained that typically Masons only powers were being Masons, and knowing that their partner was Town, and or communicating with them privately.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 15:08:48 GMT -5
Meh. If I recall it was N1-Peeker-never left his room N2-ATPG-never left his room N3-Parzival-visited BillMC N4-blocked. None of this is verifiable which sucks if you're town but can't be helped. Say she is town. Maybe we need to take a look at Parzival? I'm playing devil's advocate right now, while waiting for crumbs.... Parzival is definitely Scum. We know this because he died on Night 3. I have no clue how or why I "showed up" in your room Peekers. All I know is that I tracked you night 1 and was told you were in your room. That's the beginning and end of it. Anything else only Pollux can answer Ok, THIS is fishy. As a watcher, Meeko would see everyone who comes in, not just who killed Peeker. While yes, you may not have killed him, this makes me suspicious... I haven't decided whether we should allow you to live or not, but for now, I will happily vote for you Vote DizzyLizzyI'm not sure what your argument is here. dizzymrslizzy isn't saying anything here that she hadn't said before, so why do you find it suspicious now? Or is there something about the specific wording that she's using?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 15:17:27 GMT -5
ETA AKA, other old players please correct me if I'm wrong, but in my first game it was explained that typically Masons only powers were being Masons, and knowing that their partner was Town, and or communicating with them privately. The 'standard' Mason role has no powers other than the knowledge of the other Mason(s), but there's no hard and fast rule. Masons with additional powers, either individually or as a group, have plenty of precedent.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 19, 2012 15:22:30 GMT -5
And my character is not on the list, btw So you're claiming that you are definitely not [Name removed]?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 19, 2012 15:43:55 GMT -5
Today at 12:53pm, dizzymrslizzy wrote:<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"> ETA
AKA, other old players please correct me if I'm wrong, but in my first game it was explained that typically Masons only powers were being Masons, and knowing that their partner was Town, and or communicating with them privately.</td></tr></tbody></table> The 'standard' Mason role has no powers other than the knowledge of the other Mason(s), but there's no hard and fast rule. Masons with additional powers, either individually or as a group, have plenty of precedent. And -- as I pointed out to I think Rich last Night -- there's nothing suggesting anything about this game is 'standard.'
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 15:44:29 GMT -5
Suburban......
[Name removed] = Speculator
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 19, 2012 15:44:35 GMT -5
Taking out the "font" tag, especially when there's no bloody "/font" tag on the other end, should not break the fsking quote.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Oct 19, 2012 15:45:43 GMT -5
Today at 12:53pm, dizzymrslizzy wrote:<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"> ETA
AKA, other old players please correct me if I'm wrong, but in my first game it was explained that typically Masons only powers were being Masons, and knowing that their partner was Town, and or communicating with them privately.</td></tr></tbody></table> The 'standard' Mason role has no powers other than the knowledge of the other Mason(s), but there's no hard and fast rule. Masons with additional powers, either individually or as a group, have plenty of precedent. Sister, fine so maybe they aren't standard, but um you don't find their claimed powers to bit over the top? And -- as I pointed out to I think Rich last Night -- there's nothing suggesting anything about this game is 'standard.'
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