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Post by crys on Oct 25, 2012 20:21:48 GMT -5
Now really what. She is town and is soft claimed mason. From my experience scum may possibly leave her alone. I need to bite people that are still in the game for me to WIN the game. Are you pouting cause I didn't bite you instead? It depends. If she's lying, obviously scum will avoid her and if she's telling the truth scum will try to lynch her but if she's telling the truth and we won't lynch her then scum will kill her. The last thing they want is confirmed town. But you said you'd stay in your room. If you're not going to stay there, I'm not sure we can trust you not to be a win stealer. Where do you get win stealer from my win con ? I mean for real do what you guys want. I probably won't play a gastard game again ever because everyone acts so flaked out it isn't funny and regular logic doesn't apply anymore. I never once said I would stay in my room indefinately. It would be pointless for me to play at that point. For the record had I not bitten peeker last night I would already be dead because I would have bitten a random person from the role block and would have denied biting them because I technically didn't. I feel at this point its safer for me to bite others so then I at least know what my actions are.
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Post by crys on Oct 25, 2012 20:22:24 GMT -5
Neta the night before last is when I bit peeker.
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 25, 2012 20:33:49 GMT -5
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 25, 2012 20:37:51 GMT -5
Sinjin is over having a conversation with the Night 5 thread. It takes one to know one. crys - I hope you don't give up on Gastard games, though it may be good to get used to the sort of games and logic this particular board breeds first. You're a big fat null tell for me, but I do know that fumbling with your role reveal, however innocent and minor the fumbling may have seemed to you, likely had a very chilling effect on how you and your alleged role have been strategically received. When you combine that with a role that walks like a Mad Bomber and talks like a Mad Bomber...well suffice it to say that (assuming you are indeed what you say you are) then the Mafia Fates have just chosen to toy with and torment you.
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Post by sinjin on Oct 25, 2012 20:43:16 GMT -5
Sinjin is over having a conversation with the Night 5 thread. It takes one to know one. crys - I hope you don't give up on Gastard games, though it may be good to get used to the sort of games and logic this particular board breeds first. You're a big fat null tell for me, but I do know that fumbling with your role reveal, however innocent and minor the fumbling may have seemed to you, likely had a very chilling effect on how you and your alleged role have been strategically received. When you combine that with a role that walks like a Mad Bomber and talks like a Mad Bomber...well suffice it to say that (assuming you are indeed what you say you are) then the Mafia Fates have just chosen to toy with and torment you. Heh, I wondered where my post went. I'm also sort of freaking out about my first hurricane in a campground in Maryland. Trying to decide whether to go or stay and if we go which way?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 25, 2012 20:45:06 GMT -5
Doesn't Canada stop all hurricanes at the border? I'd go north. In all seriousness though, I'd load up the stuff you'll miss and go find an overpass or something to park under for a few hours.
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Post by sinjin on Oct 25, 2012 20:46:21 GMT -5
Doh! here's my misdirected post: So correct me If I'm wrong: The lynch was between dizzylizzy for being third on the match on Peeks night one according to Meeko who refused to be recruited to town since he thinks town is going to loose and pizza who overbid on the merc even though the day before he said no one but him should bid on the merc and if they did we should lynch them immediately but then JBG rode to the rescue and said no wait I will save you pizza and then a bunch of folks said good deal we get to test JBG's claim, but then oh noes JBG was DAY blocked and pizza ended up dead and town and mason and SisCoyote claimed pizza mason pal. Sorry for the lack of punctuation, I just heard all that in my head in the form of a soap opera intro. Think Days of Our Lives. Is that about the size of it? Has anyone else been day blocked?
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Post by crys on Oct 25, 2012 20:49:07 GMT -5
Sinjin is over having a conversation with the Night 5 thread. It takes one to know one. crys - I hope you don't give up on Gastard games, though it may be good to get used to the sort of games and logic this particular board breeds first. You're a big fat null tell for me, but I do know that fumbling with your role reveal, however innocent and minor the fumbling may have seemed to you, likely had a very chilling effect on how you and your alleged role have been strategically received. When you combine that with a role that walks like a Mad Bomber and talks like a Mad Bomber...well suffice it to say that (assuming you are indeed what you say you are) then the Mafia Fates have just chosen to toy with and torment you. I will play other games, but playing in the gastard game is not for me. Developing and aiding and abetting in the modding of a gastard game sound like a ton of fun though. I revealed my role early because I wanted to be honest with everyone. I mean "lynch the liars" right? I could have gone a completel different route and after dizzy shared her pm I could have copied and played the game a completely different way, but me being me with my personality would have come up hostile soon cause in every game I have played so far I come up on the ping o meter for someone really quickly. It's usually because they don't know me though and they have been wrong. I guess I just chalk this whole mess up for me as inexperience getting in the way of strategy. I mean what the hell did I know about mad bomber type roles before this anyway. I do have to admit the wiki explanations do depict mad bombers to be win stealing bastards. However my role as it's written seems rather benign and that I could actually share a win with town.
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 25, 2012 21:03:39 GMT -5
I doubt that Inner being blocked and his stun ray being taken is not due to the Mercenary. Sounds like someone else.... But why kill Peeker? Why not someone else, like Inner or even Meeko? I think I know what you meant but can you clarify your double negative? Meh... *mutters about people not understanding him* I will clarify- I seriously doubt that what happened to Inner is due to the Mercenary
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 25, 2012 21:09:20 GMT -5
Scary enough, I agree with Lightfoot... Though I am fine with killing anyone on my little list from last Night.
Vote Patricia
Crys- she is not a problem right now. Maybe in another day or two, but for now I am not worried about her.
My second vote, I am hanging onto. I am worried about Meeko. While I do see what he posted regarding recruitment, it doesn't make sense that he loses his powers if he is recruited, when my PM says that they retain their powers.
Sounds very fishy. Hopefully, SisC can investigate him or someone else tonight
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 25, 2012 21:46:27 GMT -5
I think I know what you meant but can you clarify your double negative? Meh... *mutters about people not understanding him* I will clarify- I seriously doubt that what happened to Inner is due to the Mercenary you said you DOUBT it's NOT due to. therefore it was? I thought I understood but wanted to clarify Pesky me for ready every word
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 25, 2012 22:00:51 GMT -5
Meh... *mutters about people not understanding him* I will clarify- I seriously doubt that what happened to Inner is due to the Mercenary you said you DOUBT it's NOT due to. therefore it was? I thought I understood but wanted to clarify Pesky me for ready every word Have a bunny. And no worries, just being a smart ass to you
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Post by patricia on Oct 25, 2012 22:18:04 GMT -5
Looks like Lightfoot and Colby - didn't read the night pages carefully -
I'm 3rd Party Non Hostile - and I invite anyone who can to come and verify me.
I'm also not concerned about being lynched or nightkilled as I don't have to be alive to win
I have also won the use of the merc - tonight and would like everyone input on his/her use
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Post by crys on Oct 25, 2012 22:25:37 GMT -5
I do find it interesting that two of the biggest noise makers for me staying in my room were kidv and silverjan. Both of them were hostile to town. Snipped Player List15. KidVermicious, aka The Demon (Hostile Third-Party Special), killed Night Three.26. Silver Jan, aka Hex (Scum One-Shot Recruiter), lynched Day Four I'm not accusing Inner of being scum or hostile. It was just an observation that I picked up as I was staring to look at things wondering where my votes should go today.
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 25, 2012 22:29:31 GMT -5
Looks like Lightfoot and Colby - didn't read the night pages carefully - I'm 3rd Party Non Hostile - and I invite anyone who can to come and verify me. I'm also not concerned about being lynched or nightkilled as I don't have to be alive to win I have also won the use of the merc - tonight and would like everyone input on his/her use Well, you weren't going to claim 3P hostile or Scum and it looks like the current Town spots are full so what would you do? By all means - discussing the merc's target will not interfere with their outcome [/sarcasm]
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 25, 2012 22:37:54 GMT -5
Looks like Lightfoot and Colby - didn't read the night pages carefully - I'm 3rd Party Non Hostile - and I invite anyone who can to come and verify me. I'm also not concerned about being lynched or nightkilled as I don't have to be alive to win I have also won the use of the merc - tonight and would like everyone input on his/her use I would say that we either need to protect someone, or kill someone.
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Post by patricia on Oct 25, 2012 23:16:42 GMT -5
Lightfoot, As long we discuss several options and of course I won't be telling my finally choice - just looking for some input before I decide
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 25, 2012 23:25:19 GMT -5
Lightfoot, As long we discuss several options and of course I won't be telling my finally choice - just looking for some input before I decide Maybe I'm just tired YOU need to decide who you want to target and with what faction of the Merc. It would be related to YOUR alignment and YOUR win-con I don't see what the discussion would gain? If you listen to the player you think is most Town* ( assuming you want to help Town) - and they turn out not Town - It will be your ass no one elses so I don't get it? * or your alignment of choice
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 25, 2012 23:38:57 GMT -5
Vote: dizzymrslizzy
This was our intention yesterday until it got confounded by AskThePizzaGuy , JustBeingGinger and ??.
As I understand the merc, what actions are available depend on how many votes you bid to win it.
Patricia, do you know what merc actions are available to you?
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 25, 2012 23:46:44 GMT -5
[/color] This was our intention yesterday until it got confounded by AskThePizzaGuy , JustBeingGinger and ??. As I understand the merc, what actions are available depend on how many votes you bid to win it. Patricia, do you know what merc actions are available to you?[/quote] I'm not against the lynch of Dizzy but we need more data from this Day than just that
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Post by Meeko on Oct 26, 2012 0:29:11 GMT -5
Meeko- I think, reading between the lines, that you act a bit like Mahaloth. If someone tries to kill you, you instead will be recruited to that side, with your powers intact. If you get recruited, you lose your powers when you switch sides... Am I close to this? Before I answer this, are you asking in regards to Meeko as player, and Mahaloth as player, or are you speaking / asking to our roles? I have no idea about Mahaloth, more that I have played with him, I know nothing more of his role than as he has played it.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Oct 26, 2012 0:40:11 GMT -5
Colby, Suburban Plankton is not a recruitable 3rd party.
Also, vote DizzyMrsLizzy.
Why? There is strong indication that she was at peekers first death. And (at least to me) I know there was more town claims than living town yesterday. Right now, by 1.
to recap: SisterCoyote, Colby, Inner, JBG, and Dizzy. And of those 5 claims, 2 are generally confirmed or have provided protown behavior. 1 Is a possible serial killer, but playing like a vig (or is a vig). 1 has claimed unlynchable, and the other has a weak ass tracker claim. So yeah, I'm voting the claimed tracker. If I'm wrong, well don't shoot me, but you can use strong language on me if it makes you feel better.
Also, to be quite honest, SisterCoyote, you should probably drop me off the non-hostile list, unless I've been scanned. Since I can't even claim to know if I'm hostile or not at this point.
Quoting the moderator:
"Name: Death of Rats Alignment: Third-Party Designation: Unknown Role: Investigator"
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 26, 2012 10:19:39 GMT -5
Now really what. She is town and is soft claimed mason. From my experience scum may possibly leave her alone. I need to bite people that are still in the game for me to WIN the game. Are you pouting cause I didn't bite you instead? It depends. If she's lying, obviously scum will avoid her and if she's telling the truth scum will try to lynch her but if she's telling the truth and we won't lynch her then scum will kill her. The last thing they want is confirmed town. But you said you'd stay in your room. If you're not going to stay there, I'm not sure we can trust you not to be a win stealer. Inner, haven't you been paying attention? crys promised to stay in her room for one Night as a 'gesture of faith'. She never promised to stay there for the rest of the game. To do so would guarantee that she could not win. That said, I don't think that we should simply take her at her word when she says she's Nonhostile. A Mad Bomber role is always a win-stealer in my experience, but this being a Gasterd game I could very well believe that it is not in this case. Of course, we can't simply let her skate through to end game without testing her claim in some way. At this point, I believe the only people who are infected are dizzymrslizzy and Sister Coyote, and it's a pretty good bet that lizzy won't live past Dusk. There's also peeker, who may or may not still be infected when he returns to us, but either way it puts crys pretty far away from her wincon at the moment.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 26, 2012 10:49:45 GMT -5
Burby: you ended Yesterday doubting the case against Dizzy but not making a vote. I think you need to bring more of a counter argument in light of the information we have about Night 1 and the various ramifications. How do you explain, with enough conviction to give Dizzy the benefit of the doubt, what Meeko said he saw that night coupled with the contents of Day 1 Dawn? The only angles, imho, where that benefit of the doubt is warranted involves either an unWatchable killer that night or Meeko being a liar. So why not Dizzy? We needed 4 more votes to keep Pizza out of the noose and yours was one of them. Regarding dizzymrslizzy and Night 1: I see no reason at this point to doubt the veracity of Meeko's investigation results. He saw that peeker was visited by three people on Night 1: Inner Stickler, Silver Jan, and dizzymrslizzy. Furthermore, peeker appears to have been attacked by three different people that Night. Inner takes credit for one attack, though he claims he targeted Red Skeezix and was redirected. Jan was a Scum Recruiter, so it's plausible that she was the Scum killer that Night. dizzy claims that she is a Town Tracker and targeted peeker. If she is telling the truth, that leaves one attack unaccounted for. It seems to me that there are two different explanations for the observed actions: The Scum attempted two kills on Night 1, with one (or bpth) being directed to peeker. lizzy is the second Scum killer. There was an unwatchable kill on peeker. lizzy is what she says she is. Assuming that the Mercenary is a player (as story claims) it makes sense to me that his actions would be unwatchable, because it would be 'unfair' for him to get caught performing an action that he was 'forced' to make by someone else. KidV controlled the Merc that Night, and I have no trouble believing that he lied when he said he used it to self-protect, and instead directed the Merc to kill peeker. The other option, that the Scum had two kills, is also plausible, but I would expect that Scum to wait before using a second kill (assuming it's a one-time action, which the lack of 'extra' deaths on other Nights would imply). So I don't think that the case against dizzymrslizzy is a slam dunk. And frankly, I think voting for her Today "because we were planning to lynch her yesterDay but didn't" is lazy at best. Going back to yesterDay, as I said at the time I missed a large part of the Day, and when I came back it seemed to be a choice of "pile on the dizzymrslizzy bandwagon in order to save Pizza" or "don't vote for dizzymrslizzy and let Pizza swing due to his overyly aggressive bid on the Merc". I explained that I didn't think there was a great case against lizzy; furthermore, I suspected that Pizza was lying to us when he said he voted 12 (or was it 13) for the Merc. I thought that would have simply been a 'bad play', and coupled with his stance of "we shouldn't save people who are in trouble because they bid too much for the Merc" I figured it was all WIFOM and that he was in no danger anyway. So I intended to review the Day and come back with a vote on someone I thought was probably Scum. Unfortunately, work intervened and I didn't come back with any vote at all.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 26, 2012 10:54:35 GMT -5
Also, to be quite honest, SisterCoyote, you should probably drop me off the non-hostile list, unless I've been scanned. Since I can't even claim to know if I'm hostile or not at this point. Quoting the moderator: "Name: Death of Rats Alignment: Third-Party Designation: Unknown Role: Investigator" Can't you tell from your Win Condition whether or not you are Hostile to Town or not?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 26, 2012 11:14:52 GMT -5
And (at least to me) I know there was more town claims than living town yesterday. Right now, by 1. to recap: SisterCoyote, Colby, Inner, JBG, and Dizzy. And of those 5 claims, 2 are generally confirmed or have provided protown behavior. 1 Is a possible serial killer, but playing like a vig (or is a vig). 1 has claimed unlynchable, and the other has a weak ass tracker claim. So yeah, I'm voting the claimed tracker. If I'm wrong, well don't shoot me, but you can use strong language on me if it makes you feel better. In the absence of a counter claim, I think we need to consider SisC as 'pretty much confirmed'. Colby's claim is supported by laurie's claim of recruitment. It's possible that they are both Scum, but that would be an awfully bold play, so I doubt it. Ginger had an opportunity to demonstrate at least a portion of her powers yesterDay, but failed to save Pizza from the lynch. Inner has played in a manner consistent with a Vigilante, but it's difficult to distinguish between a Vig, Serial Killer, and a Scum killer. lizzy has played in a manner consistent with a Tracker, but has given us no 'useful' information, so there's nothing to bolster her claim. I don't, at this moment, have a sufficiently strong case on any of those three to make then rise above the others. But I agree that one of them appears to be lying. Another possibility is that Red Skeezix is feeding us misinformation.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 26, 2012 11:27:52 GMT -5
Can't you tell from your Win Condition whether or not you are Hostile to Town or not? I believe Red has said that he currently does not have a win condition.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 26, 2012 11:29:18 GMT -5
dizzymrslizzy,
Do you have a tracking result from last Night to share with us?
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Post by Meeko on Oct 26, 2012 11:57:02 GMT -5
VOTE DIZZY, VOTE Merestil Haye
Per Mhaye's, it just feels like a stalled attempt to defend dizzy.
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Post by patricia on Oct 26, 2012 12:35:06 GMT -5
Congratulations! You have won the Mercenary bid! Here are your options:
Light Protective Detail - The Mercenary sits outside the room of someone, your choice, but you cannot choose yourself. The Mercenary will prevent anyone from killing the target, but not prevent actions of any other visitors. Light Background Check - The Mercenary will investigate someone of the your choice. The Mercenary will deliver the target's name to you but that's it. Threat Assessment - The Mercenary will visit someone of your choice. If they attempt to leave their room (take a Night action) The Mercenary will knock them unconscious and prevent their Night action. Moderate Background Check - The Mercenary will investigate someone of the your choice. The Mercenary will deliver the target's name and alignment to you. Full Protective Detail - The Mercenary will sit outside the room of a target of your choice, including yourself. The Mercenary will prevent almost anyone from visiting the target at Night, whether they are a killer or anything else. Full Background Check - The Mercenary will investigate someone of your choice. The Mercenary will deliver the target's name, alignment, and designation in relation to you.
Please submit your action choice by Dusk.
Above are my choices - Rich
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