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Post by scáthach on Sept 13, 2013 8:41:21 GMT -5
I'm not going to be around for EOD - I agree with swammer's point about the KidV voters though.
Vote: FruitAndGarbage for the moment.
Paranoia is also pinging the hell out of me though. Was there ever anything to substantiate his "I could have been a contendermason" claim? Nothing about gnarlycharlie's death reveal suggests that he was a mason, but maybe I'm misremembering Para's claim?
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 9:02:28 GMT -5
Yes, I agree that it is possible for Jaade to be the jailer, but think it is highly unlikely. I think Meeko is the jailer. He jailed himself. He was then unable to jail anyone on N2. He jailed Patricia N3 because she was more likely to be lynched than he. The way I see it, playing it "safe" by lynching Jaade is just delaying. We'll be back in the same position Tomorrow and Meeko will be free to jail Patricia again. TexCat if you would come off your Patricia is Scum and Meeko is the Jailer for one second you would see that this makes no sense No good reason for scum to want me jailed in the first place - and they sure wouldn't want me jailed again. From Scum point of view A. tomorrow misguided town will try to lynch me = good for scum or B. As scum doctor I could protect myself or another scum and that would be good for scum Now if you look at as I'm Town and the Doctor as scum thinks as they know I'm not scum - they would have no reason to a jail me or keep me in jail Therefore the Jailer is town - I'm sure
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 9:06:04 GMT -5
Wait a minute. We don't know that the player in jail cannot act The color only says that they cannot be the subject of an action. It makes sense to assume that you are in jail and therefore can't act but the color didn't say so. Other thoughts. The jailer already had someone in jail on N2 so he couldn't jail the next player until the next night....so only every other even night he can jail? Dizzy you have been skimming - we talked about this the color said I could not act or be act upon. skimming is a scum tell - going back to reread Dizzy
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 13, 2013 9:13:09 GMT -5
Really Patricia? Prisoners are role blocked while incarcerated. You can't connect the dots as to how that might fit into scum (or pfk) strategy if you are actually the doc?
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 9:14:48 GMT -5
I don't think Meeko is the jailer - as I'm leaning scum on him and Dizzy both. I think the jailer is a very good town player - one you also thinks Meeko is scum and also believes I'm a doctor. I do want to thank the Jailer for keeping me alive a extra day but without being able to act it turned out to be pointless. I also believe that who ever jailed me was hoping I could act as that the fact the jailee couldn't act was not stated until I was jailed. If the jailer can talk to me he/she hasn't up to this point anyway - maybe tonight?
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 9:17:16 GMT -5
Really Patricia? Prisoners are role blocked while incarcerated. You can't connect the dots as to how that might fit into scum (or pfk) strategy if you are actually the doc? it never said that meeko was blocked so either he had no actions and the mod didn't state that until I was jailed or the jailer knew all along but I sure didn't know until the color that I would be able to act Besides I was up for the lynch today - why would scum stop that?? why would scum want the doctor to live?
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 13, 2013 9:40:14 GMT -5
Patricia Seriously. You have been given so many chances to "explain yourself." Please share with us what you have done.
You've had 3 nights. Who did you protect? And I'll ask you AGAIN, why didn't you protect Pleo last night?
And I agree 100% with Cookies.
IF you were the Town Doctor, Scum would leave you to be lynched because you have been acting VERY scummy and were probably going to get lynched today, so why waste a lynch on you.
And why Jail you from Scum's perspective.... IF you are town, well it will make Town flounce around today to find a candidate to lynch....GUESS WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW If you are scum, buy you one more day, and hope for a mislynch.
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Post by sinjin on Sept 13, 2013 9:54:39 GMT -5
Yes, I agree that it is possible for Jaade to be the jailer, but think it is highly unlikely. I think Meeko is the jailer. He jailed himself. He was then unable to jail anyone on N2. He jailed Patricia N3 because she was more likely to be lynched than he. The way I see it, playing it "safe" by lynching Jaade is just delaying. We'll be back in the same position Tomorrow and Meeko will be free to jail Patricia again. TexCat if you would come off your Patricia is Scum and Meeko is the Jailer for one second you would see that this makes no sense No good reason for scum to want me jailed in the first place - and they sure wouldn't want me jailed again. From Scum point of view A. tomorrow misguided town will try to lynch me = good for scum or B. As scum doctor I could protect myself or another scum and that would be good for scum Now if you look at as I'm Town and the Doctor as scum thinks as they know I'm not scum - they would have no reason to a jail me or keep me in jail Therefore the Jailer is town - I'm sure Damn it, the board ate my post: No one is suggesting you are a scum Dr. Patricia. We don't believe you are any kind of Dr. at all. You did not protect SilverJan, the essentially confirmed townie, you did not protect Pleo, an investigator giving results daily. You implied you couldn't self protect when you kind of, sort of claimed Dr. for no reason. If you
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 13, 2013 9:59:02 GMT -5
I'm racking my brain to find anything that Patricia has said this entire game that makes any amount of logical sense.
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 10:12:41 GMT -5
Patricia Seriously. You have been given so many chances to "explain yourself." Please share with us what you have done. You've had 3 nights. Who did you protect? And I'll ask you AGAIN, why didn't you protect Pleo last night? And I agree 100% with Cookies. IF you were the Town Doctor, Scum would leave you to be lynched because you have been acting VERY scummy and were probably going to get lynched today, so why waste a lynch on you. And why Jail you from Scum's perspective.... IF you are town, well it will make Town flounce around today to find a candidate to lynch....GUESS WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW If you are scum, buy you one more day, and hope for a mislynch. I answer that question about why I didn't protect Pleo last night - really read the thread already and stop skimming and now you are saying the same thing I'm saying and using them against me I never said I couldn't self protect NEVER - and no I'm not saying who I have protected - Why do you need to know that it this point - As someone has been killed each night I can't prove that I have protected anyone. Go ahead and lynch me - there is no hope for town who will lynch the doctor who btw hasn't been counterclaimed in anyway - so basically you will be lynching me because I didn't protect the who you felt I should have protected. I'm playing the game for myself as I am a doctor and I am third party - I don't need to be alive to meet my wincon and I done banging my head against the wall trying to help town. Just me sure not to blame me when you lose and when you are done hanging me and reading the color about how I'm a doctor and texcat has had time to eat her words look at Dizzy as I'm sure she is a scummy scum
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 11:58:33 GMT -5
so you believe Meeko is scum and yet have swapped your vote Jaade the
easy vote he's been advocating since he started getting a shitstorm on his tail uh
hmm.
Vote: Meeko
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:03:28 GMT -5
Paranoia is also pinging the hell out of me though. Was there ever anything to substantiate his "I could have been a contendermason" claim? Nothing about gnarlycharlie's death reveal suggests that he was a mason, but maybe I'm misremembering Para's claim? Deaths don't reveal a whole lot about a players power(s)beyond a heavily generalized archetype. So the fact you're pointing at that and going "see see it says nothing about masons!" is kind of suspect.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:05:16 GMT -5
Also patricia, they're not asking you to PROVE you protected. Just tell us who you protected and why.
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Post by swammerdami on Sept 13, 2013 12:11:54 GMT -5
We are less than an hour from EOD if my reckoning is correct. Does anyone have a list of votes and voters?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 13, 2013 12:14:15 GMT -5
A Town with two protective roles (a doctor and a jailer) seems quite unlikely to me, which is a problem I've had since Patricia first volunteered that she was the doc under not very much pressure at all.
So when it comes to no one counter-claiming Patricia, if the Jailer is indeed Town they are apparently choosing to arrest Patricia vs counter-claim her, perhaps.
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 12:18:36 GMT -5
Also patricia, they're not asking you to PROVE you protected. Just tell us who you protected and why. Ok, fine Not having a good day in real life and I have let that slip into this game sorry folks Anyway Night one I protected TexCat - I felt she would be the scum target after Day One's Lynch as she started the wagon on a scum - When she wasn't the target night one I started to think she was scum and that why I voted for her Day Two Night Two I self protected as I was getting heat for wanting to Lynch TexCat Day Two Night Three - I didn't get back in time to send in any orders which is on me but real life got busy
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 12:19:54 GMT -5
A Town with two protective roles (a doctor and a jailer) seems quite unlikely to me, which is a problem I've had since Patricia first volunteered that she was the doc under not very much pressure at all. So when it comes to no one counter-claiming Patricia, if the Jailer is indeed Town they are apparently choosing to arrest Patricia vs counter-claim her, perhaps. or maybe Patricia is being truthful
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:29:39 GMT -5
Jaade (5): FruitandGarbage, Meeko, Sisc, Patricia, SisC Meeko (4): Texcat, Sinjin, Cookies, Paranoia FruitandGarbage (1): Dizzy, Scatchach Cookies (1): Swammerdami
Abstaining (1): Jaade
The most notable changes here would be patricia swapping from Meeko to Jaade under the fallacious reasoning that one or the other of Jaade or I must be scum, simply because Pleo was killed on a night he was going to investigate either of us, setting aside that he was analyzing and was a claimed investigator.
There's also the fact meeko kept jumping around with his vote first from texcat (with a weak reason), to scatchach (no reason), to Jaade (SHE BE DUH LURKING MON.) Other than that he's been reactionary and unhelpful.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:32:02 GMT -5
Also patricia, they're not asking you to PROVE you protected. Just tell us who you protected and why. Ok, fine Not having a good day in real life and I have let that slip into this game sorry folks Anyway Night one I protected TexCat - I felt she would be the scum target after Day One's Lynch as she started the wagon on a scum - When she wasn't the target night one I started to think she was scum and that why I voted for her Day Two Night Two I self protected as I was getting heat for wanting to Lynch TexCat Day Two Night Three - I didn't get back in time to send in any orders which is on me but real life got busy Uh, why protect yourself night two? The vigilante was dead, you know. Also I'm not sure of the thought process of "oh she wasn't shot so she must be scum", since that has no actual bearing on her play, and this is also misremembering things as you got heat for pushing KidV well beyond abstain in the day two lynch race.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:35:08 GMT -5
Jaade (4): FruitandGarbage, Meeko, Sisc, Patricia Meeko (4): Texcat, Sinjin, Cookies, Paranoia FruitandGarbage (2): Dizzy, Scatchach Cookies (1): Swammerdami
Abstaining (1): Jaade
I'm going to assume Jaade is a waste of a lynch simply because by nature of not participating Story, if not already in the process of figuring out what to do about someone who hasn't logged into these boards since last week, will probably do so sooner or later because at this rate they will have missed two full days. Also I had an error in my vote tally - SisC does not have two votes.
I bow my head in shame.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 13, 2013 12:46:41 GMT -5
I don't think Patricia unvoted Meeko before voting Jaade.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 13, 2013 12:48:58 GMT -5
or maybe Patricia is being truthful If you are being truthful, your repeatedly stated confidence that the Jailer is Town is one of those illogical (imho) statements you keep making.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:49:23 GMT -5
Oh. Huh.
They didn't.
So the vote count looks like this, then:
Meeko (5): Texcat, Sinjin, Cookies, Patricia, Paranoia Jaade (3): FruitandGarbage, Meeko, Sisc FruitandGarbage (2): Dizzy, Scatchach Cookies (1): Swammerdami
Abstaining (1): Jaade
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 13, 2013 12:49:53 GMT -5
Alrighty then. Thanks for the vote count Paranoia.
My vote for Fruit seems to be going no where.
Meeko has been anti town all game Everyone who I think is scum is voting Jaade
Unvote: FruitandGarbage Vote: Meeko
I think Meeko is a much better lynch candidate than Jaade is today. Meeko, please claim.. You have time to change this!
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:52:32 GMT -5
By my estimation he has a little more than seven minutes.
That would be one hell of a panic if he got in in time to claim.
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 13, 2013 12:54:26 GMT -5
And let me just say. I believe Meeko is the Jailer, and that's the main reason for my vote. I'm nervous he may just be a 3rd party Jailer and not a scum Jailer. There's something about his uber defensivenesss that made me vote him over Jaade, but he's had this off attitude the last couple of games and I don't know if it's really a tell of anything other than Meeko. I just don't think it will do us any good to vote off Jaade today
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 12:56:16 GMT -5
I don't think Patricia unvoted Meeko before voting Jaade. Well s**t thanks for pointing this out - but now if I fix it we are back to a tie
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Post by dizzymrslizzy on Sept 13, 2013 12:56:25 GMT -5
Well you know what Paranoia, He's known he was a top lynch candidate today. He had ample opportunity to claim. You and I are here right now, and can pull our votes if a decent claim comes in. I don't see him online anymore, he was when I started my post.
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Post by patricia on Sept 13, 2013 12:57:07 GMT -5
or maybe Patricia is being truthful If you are being truthful, your repeatedly stated confidence that the Jailer is Town is one of those illogical (imho) statements you keep making. than please explain why scum would jail me
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 13, 2013 12:57:22 GMT -5
And let me just say. I believe Meeko is the Jailer, and that's the main reason for my vote. I'm nervous he may just be a 3rd party Jailer and not a scum Jailer. There's something about his uber defensivenesss that made me vote him over Jaade, but he's had this off attitude the last couple of games and I don't know if it's really a tell of anything other than Meeko. I just don't think it will do us any good to vote off Jaade today That is the thing. On one hand we have an inactive player. On the other we have someone who's vehemently refusing to be even the slightest bit of helpful. It's very likely today devolved into a Morton's Fork, and either way we end up choosing poorly. We'll see when night hits.
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