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Post by Silver Jan on Jan 10, 2014 10:21:10 GMT -5
Story, I am glad you shared because I also have to meet certain criteria to win the game even if Town wins. If I die I can still win with Town as long as certain conditions are met. Certainly an interesting game.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jan 10, 2014 12:55:02 GMT -5
Well since no one else is chatting, what do you think about the antivote?
I like it, scum will be scared to use it but an investigative type of role might like it, just another twist in an otherwise twisted game. I am surprised no one has brought it up before.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 10, 2014 13:06:18 GMT -5
I think the antivote is complex but a potentially useful tool: there have been times I wished I had the option in other games.
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Post by Paranoia on Jan 10, 2014 13:48:52 GMT -5
As it stands I believe BillMC as I'm never quite sure how much to trust him.
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Post by Paranoia on Jan 10, 2014 13:49:14 GMT -5
ebwop: Investigate: BillMC
hurrr.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jan 10, 2014 13:50:08 GMT -5
I think the antivote is complex but a potentially useful tool: there have been times I wished I had the option in other games. I know but it has such a chance to backfire on a person using it. In at least 2 previous games I have been "sure" that person was Town only to have it blow up in my face. (Use the last game on here for eg. Carry on laughing Meeko) I wonder if anyone will use it? If it isn't used it would be a pity because it is an interesting twist but not sure if I would have the guts to do it.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jan 10, 2014 13:59:44 GMT -5
Yes, i have changed my username finally. It's what I want it to be.
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Post by guiri on Jan 10, 2014 14:52:27 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me, almost forgot!
Antivote me
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Post by BillMc on Jan 10, 2014 15:05:50 GMT -5
By "execute a Pleonast" I mean nothing nefarious, by the way. Just an unfortunate choice of wording, given the color Dr Nefarious I presume? :-) But yes, I have a similar, call it, personal goal, that I need to accomplish for winning as town. It is unclear whether the result of that goal is pro-town or anti-town
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Post by Silver Jan on Jan 10, 2014 15:47:25 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me, almost forgot! Antivote me antivote youI think
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Post by Silver Jan on Jan 10, 2014 15:48:39 GMT -5
I meant unantivote, bedtime, hope theres more to discuss on the morrow
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Post by Chameleon on Jan 10, 2014 16:48:27 GMT -5
Thanks Story for throwing in some of your hand. I also have specific criteria that need to be met if I am to win with the rest of Town. I wonder if that might be the "normal" for this game. It does make things more complex if we have Town, as well as individual, priorities to consider.
I don't think being voted to be investigated is necessarily a bad thing - it can be used to support a player one believes to be Town just as much as to find out about a player one finds suspicious. It's quite different from a lynch vote and doesn't reveal as much about the voters.
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Jan 10, 2014 17:51:57 GMT -5
Votes: Votes: gnarlycharlie [1]: guiri (17) guiri [-1]: guiri (-37)
Investigations: BillMc [4]: texcat (5), Sister Coyote (12), Mahaloth (20), Paranoia (33) Meeko [3]: storyteller0910 (14), guiri (17), dizzymrslizzy (26) texcat [2]: BillMc (10), Swammerdami (23) Pleonast [2]: Meeko (11), Chameleon (24)
With these votes, gnarlycharlie will be lynched and BillMc will be investigated. 101 hours remain in Day 1
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Post by Meeko on Jan 10, 2014 19:26:19 GMT -5
I, personally, would like to: Investigate Meeko[/b] Meeko is one of those players where it's very hard to draw a bead on him whatever his alignment; he acts according to a pretty strict set of internal rules, I think, but doesn't usually articulate those rules to us. So I find I always find him both suspicious and utterly innocent at the same time. The behavior of someone like Bill, I think, can be better assessed by more conventional analysis.[/quote] Thanks? But seriously, this has been, at times, a driving force of my Mafia play; straight up, if I could understand, or even manifest something resembling a "strict set of internal rules" I would be a much better person. I understand the generalities here, but we are equally lost on the actual practice of this Meeko ruleset. I would love nothing more than to know these rules myself, because then I could start to change them.
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Post by Meeko on Jan 10, 2014 19:31:06 GMT -5
By "execute a Pleonast" I mean nothing nefarious, by the way. Just an unfortunate choice of wording, given the color At the prospect of Pleonast biting it already, I had to move my eyes back and forth over that post, as to who was writing it, I couldn't tell if a tennis match had broken out.
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Post by Meeko on Jan 10, 2014 19:44:01 GMT -5
As I understand the rules, I can do all of the following. If so, I intend to do so.
UNINVESTIGATE PLEONAST INVESTIGATE BILLMC ANTIINVESTIGATE MEEKO
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Post by Meeko on Jan 10, 2014 19:47:00 GMT -5
Vote: Guiri if for no other reason, than because that type of out of the box play can't be tolerated. .... Unless I'm doing it.
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Post by FruitAndGarbage on Jan 10, 2014 20:08:13 GMT -5
You are correct, Meeko, although the color for an antivote or -investigate is green. Yellow is for unantivotes and -investigations. (That doesn't matter, it just makes it easier for me to tabulate. I'll get there either way.) For reference, that brings the votals to:
Votes: gnarlycharlie [1]: guiri (17) guiri [0]: guiri (-37), Meeko (46)
Investigations: BillMc [5]: texcat (5), Sister Coyote (12), Mahaloth (20), Paranoia (33), Meeko (45) Meeko [2]: storyteller0910 (14), guiri (17), dizzymrslizzy (26), Meeko (-45) texcat [2]: BillMc (10), Swammerdami (23) Pleonast [1]: Meeko (11), Chameleon (24)
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jan 10, 2014 21:47:49 GMT -5
PM received. I'll echo storyteller and Investigate Meeko. And Vote GnarlyCharlie for "reporting in": lowercase "r" indicates heavy editing, reporting sounds like imposed duty... this has to be a joke vote, right? no? hmmm... lowercase??? are you serious? we've been playing together for months if not years. i almost always use lowercase. as for "reporting" in, i'm just getting into the spirit of the game just like Bill did in Enderboy's game on the Geeb. you're trying too hard. seems fake. Vote: guiriantivote gnarlycharlie (i tried yellow. it hurts the eyes.) investigate Meeko although Bill or Pleo are fine as well.
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Post by patricia on Jan 10, 2014 22:30:38 GMT -5
Wow - just got my PM and this sounds like a fun but twisted game. I too have a twist in my win con so I'm leaning on that being the case all round.
Can someone explain how to post in yellow and green - I have just used the {vote} {/vote} in all my game to this point thanks
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Post by Meeko on Jan 10, 2014 22:59:36 GMT -5
So, I'm drawn to thinking this game will have more scum than normal. The entire color leads me to think that it is roughly 50 50, white and black, Red (yes capital R, that backwards Russian R even) and (blue?) yin and yang. A real .... Chase as it were, to me implying one side or the other only always being one step ahead. That notion playing in to 51/49 in terms of strength.
Then again, this is mafia, and I suspect I'm way off base with my opening assumption here.
Then again, again, I believe Bill and Silver Jan. I would not be surprised to find out that other roles have similar "you win if and only if" type clauses. This wifoms myself back up to the opening assumption, making it plausible again.
This is not the "do we even have scum in this game" question. I'm not sure what question it is though.
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Post by Colby11 on Jan 11, 2014 0:34:31 GMT -5
I bet we do have scum in this game... But the way in which this game is set up, we can't trust anyone because town is basically PFK's instead.
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Post by swammerdami on Jan 11, 2014 2:10:26 GMT -5
In accordance with "Let it all hang out" openness, I admit that I also am Townie but win only if Town wins AND my special condition is satisfied. That condition is the death of a certain other Player.
I don't know if that other Player is Town or 3rd Party. (He/she is presumably not Scum, since Scum death would not be an extra condition.) Assuming my target is also Town, but wants me dead reciprocally, I suppose we'd both win if we fall on each other's swords but Town wins anyway.
My intent is to just seek Town victory. If Town wins but I don't, I'll consider it a "moral victory."
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Post by Chameleon on Jan 11, 2014 2:50:57 GMT -5
But wouldn't PFK's win independently from Town or Scum or anyone else? Some individual conditions seem to be on top of a Town (or presumably Scum) win. I don't profess to know the mechanics of the game, however it would seem that Town and Scum still need to help their own teams - individuals just may need something else to happen for them to win with their team - but despite achieving their individual condition, if their team loses, they still lose. I hope that makes sense.
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Post by swammerdami on Jan 11, 2014 10:15:19 GMT -5
Five Players have stepped forth claiming to be Town but with an extra win condition.
Any Townies willing to volunteer that they have no extra win condition?
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Post by guiri on Jan 11, 2014 11:20:16 GMT -5
Me, I win when all threats to town are eliminated. No extra conditions, no special requirements. I have to admit being concerned about these extra conditions, especially ones that require killing others - could they relate to the same person, or a subset of people rather than 5 individuals?
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Post by guiri on Jan 11, 2014 14:03:13 GMT -5
this has to be a joke vote, right? no? hmmm... How did you decide? My vote was a typical baseless, early Day1 vote, intended to poke, engage, and possibly draw some reactions. I don't consider typing in lower case a scum tell, and I don't have any issue with following along with game color. I do think your response is over the top and indicative of a guilty party so I'm sticking with the vote for now.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jan 11, 2014 16:17:49 GMT -5
But wouldn't PFK's win independently from Town or Scum or anyone else? Some individual conditions seem to be on top of a Town (or presumably Scum) win. I don't profess to know the mechanics of the game, however it would seem that Town and Scum still need to help their own teams - individuals just may need something else to happen for them to win with their team - but despite achieving their individual condition, if their team loses, they still lose. I hope that makes sense. Vote: ChameleonI think only the Devils know what you are on about
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Post by BillMc on Jan 11, 2014 23:44:54 GMT -5
I bet we do have scum in this game... But the way in which this game is set up, we can't trust anyone because town is basically PFK's instead. Hmm, this seems to imply that you know something the rest of us don't. Indeed it implies that your pm is pfk No one said we were pfk - I am town and win with town, but need to accomplish something else as well. That does not make me pfk as I cannot win if town doesn't. vote: colby
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Post by Colby11 on Jan 12, 2014 2:34:17 GMT -5
I bet we do have scum in this game... But the way in which this game is set up, we can't trust anyone because town is basically PFK's instead. Hmm, this seems to imply that you know something the rest of us don't. Indeed it implies that your pm is pfk No one said we were pfk - I am town and win with town, but need to accomplish something else as well. That does not make me pfk as I cannot win if town doesn't. vote: colby I am town but like yourself I have a second condition which I must meet in order to win.
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