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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 13:55:57 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 13:55:57 GMT -5
An accurate and exhaustive list of possible outcomes would be greatly appreciated.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 14:00:21 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 7, 2008 14:00:21 GMT -5
So far I've read the thread twice. But people keep posting.
I can try for a list of possible outcomes, if you wish. But it'll take some time to draft and I must get some food; I'm beginning to shake and that's never good.
I'll be back in 30 minutes or so. Hopefully I can sort out what the possible scenarios are while I get my tea.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 14:02:26 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 14:02:26 GMT -5
No offense, but the only list I think any of us should be trusting is the one from DbI.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 14:11:27 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 14:11:27 GMT -5
Ok, here's my offer:
1) The Wei Faction must explicitly claim. 2) The Other Town must explicitly claim. 3) Together they must decide on who the Shu Faction is, and place their vote.
If these conditions are met, I will hammer the Shu. If not, I will vote for myself. Why the Wei Faction and Other Town should take this offer?
Other Town: this is our only shot at winning. Otherwise, I will force a stalemate. Wei Faction: this is your only shot at winning. Otherwise, I will force a stalemate. You will have a shot despite claiming because of the WIFOM dilemma that will happen at Night.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 14:15:28 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 14:15:28 GMT -5
I'm a Wang Peasant.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 14:16:23 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 14:16:23 GMT -5
Ugh, the Shu is just going to lie... I think forced stalemate may be our best option...
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 14:55:57 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 14:55:57 GMT -5
Ugh, the Shu is just going to lie... I think forced stalemate may be our best option... Of course, of course. But which lie? Let's force it.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 14:58:18 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 14:58:18 GMT -5
I don't have the braincells left to drag this out anymore, so I'll take you up on your offer, Pleo.
I am Wei.
My pile of bodies:
Koldanar - Day 1 lynch Cat - Night 1 kill drainbead - Day 2 lynch Roosh - Night 2 kill Kat - Day 3 lynch Atarus - Night 3 kill Hal - Day 4 lynch No Night 4 kill (I had targeted Nesta) Nesta - Day 5 lynch Pete - Night 5 kill
Up until today, the only thing I had been as close to convinced of as is possible, was that Rugger was another scum.
I do have a crumb to offer. And while it is contained in the same Day 2 post that caused so much controversy, it is not the portion that received so much attention in the past. I could not resist a reference to cannibalism being the one who had provided the kill color for serving Cat dumplings. Dio suggested the target, I agreed and provided the color.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:02:13 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 15:02:13 GMT -5
Vote mhaye.
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Mar 7, 2008 15:04:06 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 15:04:06 GMT -5
Ugh... unvote mhaye.
Cookies may be a lying Shu... damn it!
Let's see what mhaye has to say for himself before we vote.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:04:59 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 7, 2008 15:04:59 GMT -5
Vote Santo Rugger
You must be the last scum, because I'm the last remaining peasant.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:06:13 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 7, 2008 15:06:13 GMT -5
Unvote Santo Rugger
Dammit, don't keep hopping around like that.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:17:17 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 15:17:17 GMT -5
Okay, unless cookies lied, and mhaye picked up on the lie to try and trick the town into lynching him instead of her to guarantee her the win, then the game comes down to cookies vs. pleo, and who they protect and target tonight... decisions, decisions... vote mhaye
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:20:49 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 15:20:49 GMT -5
Yo, cookies! I think we can both agree that Tonight is the epitome of WiFoM for the both of ya!
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:21:11 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 7, 2008 15:21:11 GMT -5
I'm a peasant.
If DarkCookies is telling the truth, that means that you are the Shu or (by your own admission) you've played very foolishly.
Alternatively DarkCookies is lying through her teeth, which means she's actually the last Shu - there's no conceivable reason for a Villager to make that claim. Then you or Pleo are the Wei, and the other is the remaining Zhang. Again, if you are the Zhang, you've played awfully.
So I believe you and DarkCookies are the last two goons. it's just a question of which is which.
I'm inclined to believe DarkCookies in her claim, mainly because of that Day 2 "plant" she cites.
That means Santo Rugger is my best guess at the Shu.
Vote Santo Rugger.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:22:21 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 15:22:21 GMT -5
I don't think this endgame could've been predicted in a million years.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:22:37 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 15:22:37 GMT -5
Sorry for such frequent posting today, I'm a bit excited. DbI, can you elaborate on your option 2, and the scenarios it entails, please?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:24:28 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 15:24:28 GMT -5
I'm a peasant. If DarkCookies is telling the truth, that means that you are the Shu or (by your own admission) you've played very foolishly. Alternatively DarkCookies is lying through her teeth, which means she's actually the last Shu - there's no conceivable reason for a Villager to make that claim. Then you or Pleo are the Wei, and the other is the remaining Zhang. Again, if you are the Zhang, you've played awfully. So I believe you and DarkCookies are the last two goons. it's just a question of which is which. I'm inclined to believe DarkCookies in her claim, mainly because of that Day 2 "plant" she cites. That means Santo Rugger is my best guess at the Shu. [colorblue]Vote Santo Rugger[/color].[/quote] kthxbye
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:26:48 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Mar 7, 2008 15:26:48 GMT -5
Sorry for such frequent posting today, I'm a bit excited. DbI, can you elaborate on your option 2, and the scenarios it entails, please?What do you need clarifying? As far as I know, you have all the information you need to determine the possible endgame outcomes. If you have a point of confusion, please as a specific question.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:42:44 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 15:42:44 GMT -5
What do you need clarifying? As far as I know, you have all the information you need to determine the possible endgame outcomes. If you have a point of confusion, please as a specific question. What if the Shu and its corresponding Zhang wake up as the two alive tomorrow. Seems like that should be a draw, since the Zhang can protect himself from the Shu.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:46:12 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Mar 7, 2008 15:46:12 GMT -5
Correct.
(In the current situation I assume you mean Wei/Zhang)
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 15:46:23 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 15:46:23 GMT -5
I think you meant to say Wei, as there is no longer a an anti-Shu Zhang in the game.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:00:20 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Mar 7, 2008 16:00:20 GMT -5
Yeah, that.
So, Pleo, you may want to consider protecting yourself and letting cookies kill me, making it a draw, instead of risking protecting me, and cookies killing you and then me, making it a win for her. It's up to you, though... True WiFoM
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:02:06 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 16:02:06 GMT -5
Pleo: ironically, we very well may have to work together a bit if we actually want to try and lynch someone today vs a no-lynch.
The downside to being so successful at killing the town at night is that I gained no concrete data as to who might be scum, aside from very recently with nesta, and there were other possible reasons why he survived. I didn't really care why he didn't die. I would have voted for him as I did regardless.
As I've already said, I have been playing been pretty much convinced that Rugger has been scum, and therefor would be the Shu.
However, mhaye being so comparatively quiet, combined with Rugger's play today has me seriously second-guessing myself.
On the third hand, Rugger's out of the gate vote for nesta yesterDay fit quite nicely with my theory that he was scum, and that he had also targeted and missed on nesta the same night I did.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:07:21 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Mar 7, 2008 16:07:21 GMT -5
Correct.
(In the current situation I assume you mean Wei/Zhang)Amended. I'll leave the ultimate decision to DBI.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:09:23 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Mar 7, 2008 16:09:23 GMT -5
DarkCookies
I've said my piece here. You and Santo Rugger are the goons. I back you for the Wei over SR because of that little cannibalism reference on Day 2. Really, there's nothing else to be said unless you have some question for me directly, in which case I will answer them.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:15:28 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 16:15:28 GMT -5
I meant comparatively quiet throughout the game, not necessarily toDay. And I am inclined to believe you, but I can't trust you...yet ... hence directing my explanations of doubt to Pleo.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:16:15 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 16:16:15 GMT -5
This whole thing is just cracking me up.
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:36:28 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Mar 7, 2008 16:36:28 GMT -5
What's the current official vote count?
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Day Six
Mar 7, 2008 16:38:44 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 7, 2008 16:38:44 GMT -5
Since it is such a novelty being able to think out loud and have people actively and openly respond if they so wish, I shall continue...
I'm inclined to believe that Rugger spotted me as scum quiet early, and all of his meta-game support of me was to keep me alive to maximize the collective scum Night killing power as long as possible. Rugger advocating on my behalf for any other reason doesn't scan like the Rugger I know at all. I don't think I'd still be here if it weren't for him, as I also played off of his posts (assuming he was scum) on more than one occasion during the Days. He was a little trigger-happy with his first "headslap for thinking Cookies was town" and that also fits the theory that he's pegged me for scum for awhile. I could very well have been targeted by his faction on one of the Nights that came through with less then maximum kills, or he's just good at reading the way I play.
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