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Jun 2, 2008 16:58:13 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jun 2, 2008 16:58:13 GMT -5
Given that Hal was a "possessed Townie", I made the assumption that Type 2 demons are a game mechanic as previously speculated.
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Jun 2, 2008 16:59:30 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 2, 2008 16:59:30 GMT -5
YesterDay's lynch was actually quite fortuitous for us. Remember, we know that the demons were not able to communicate Night Zero or Day One. I therefore find it extraordinarily unlikely that bandwagon was started by a demon looking for townie cred -- not without discussing with everybody else first. And besides, scum really want to gain townie cred in the mid-to-late game, not Day One. Kat and stardragon don't look like demons at this point. Are you suggesting there is only one type of Demon, or did you simply mean "don't look like type XXX demons"? Re-read your post here a few times Kison...and I just wanted you to clarify what you are getting at.
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Jun 2, 2008 16:59:37 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 2, 2008 16:59:37 GMT -5
My initial reactions: * Despite his early vote, SDG can't be ruled out because his vote simply lacks bandwagon-starting potential. In fact, it tended to piss people off. Of course, a random vote on a comrade seems like a strange play, but one not without its possible justifications as a scum player. Still firmly in "not sure about him" territory. * If anyone is ruled out by this, it's Kat. * Frankly, I (sort of) agree with RoOsh and story. That being said... * I think another approach worth taking (in addition, not instead of) is examining which votes seem particularly pro-town. If we are making the assumption that certain votes are scummy, we should explore the flip side, too. Some votes, such as ones that put scum "over the top" as lynch favorites seem like strong candidates.
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Jun 2, 2008 17:01:59 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 2, 2008 17:01:59 GMT -5
* I think another approach worth taking (in addition, not instead of) is examining which votes seem particularly pro-town. If we are making the assumption that certain votes are scummy, we should explore the flip side, too. Some votes, such as ones that put scum "over the top" as lynch favorites seem like strong candidates. Since I am asking people to clairfy...I don't follow this. It's probably just me having a reading comprehension problem today, but you would mind rephrasing?
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Jun 2, 2008 17:05:13 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jun 2, 2008 17:05:13 GMT -5
* Despite his early vote, SDG can't be ruled out because his vote simply lacks bandwagon-starting potential. In fact, it tended to piss people off. Of course, a random vote on a comrade seems like a strange play, but one not without its possible justifications as a scum player. Still firmly in "not sure about him" territory. Without working things out beforehand, I don't see scum cross voting like that one Day One.
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Jun 2, 2008 17:13:21 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 2, 2008 17:13:21 GMT -5
* Despite his early vote, SDG can't be ruled out because his vote simply lacks bandwagon-starting potential. In fact, it tended to piss people off. Of course, a random vote on a comrade seems like a strange play, but one not without its possible justifications as a scum player. Still firmly in "not sure about him" territory. Without working things out beforehand, I don't see scum cross voting like that one Day One. I did it in Seekham, and Pirates. It doesn't mean anything per se, because I was playing scum in a crazy balls out fashion, but hell, I bused AZ on Day 1 of Seekham for all intents and purposes. It took his replacement till Day 2 to get lynched, but all the legwork was done Day 1. But don't assume it wouldn't happen, especially not as a random one off. Kat on the other hand, I would be very surprised if she were scum. It's one thing to one off vote someone on your team when you don't think it is going to turn into anything, it is another to build a case and doggedly persue them to the lynch.
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Jun 2, 2008 17:22:56 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 2, 2008 17:22:56 GMT -5
* Despite his early vote, SDG can't be ruled out because his vote simply lacks bandwagon-starting potential. In fact, it tended to piss people off. Of course, a random vote on a comrade seems like a strange play, but one not without its possible justifications as a scum player. Still firmly in "not sure about him" territory. Without working things out beforehand, I don't see scum cross voting like that one Day One. Don't worry NAF I'm working on an explanation for ya, but I want to clarify my opinion on SDG first since it is more specifically about an individual player. Rysto, if we assume that it was a smarter play than it looked, then I can see possible scum motivations for an early vote on hockeyguy. Such as the fact that we're potentially ruling him out based on it. By comparison Kat led a bandwagon that doomed a scum player. What did SDG stand to lose by doing what he did if he was scum? A poorly justified vote on a teammate could be a brilliant play. But, as I said on Day One, I tend to think that players aren't doing anything spectacularly brilliant. That's why he's still in the "dunno" camp for me. In all likelihood he's just a newb townie. All I wanted to make clear was that his early vote on hockeyguy alone does not a townie make. On the other hand, Kat, if she's scum led a lynch of a teammate in return damn strong townie credit, which might make sense if she's the tremendously powerful scum out there which ryjae hypothesized about. But for all we know that could have been hockeyguy, demon lord. In any case it's a remote enough possibility for me to rule out Kat pending contradictory evidence.
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Jun 2, 2008 17:26:22 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 2, 2008 17:26:22 GMT -5
Without working things out beforehand, I don't see scum cross voting like that one Day One. Don't worry NAF I'm working on an explanation for ya, but I want to clarify my opinion on SDG first since it is more specifically about an individual player. Rysto, if we assume that it was a smarter play than it looked, then I can see possible scum motivations for an early vote on hockeyguy. Such as the fact that we're potentially ruling him out based on it. By comparison Kat led a bandwagon that doomed a scum player. What did SDG stand to lose by doing what he did if he was scum? A poorly justified vote on a teammate could be a brilliant play. But, as I said on Day One, I tend to think that players aren't doing anything spectacularly brilliant. That's why he's still in the "dunno" camp for me. In all likelihood he's just a newb townie. All I wanted to make clear was that his early vote on hockeyguy alone does not a townie make. On the other hand, Kat, if she's scum led a lynch of a teammate in return damn strong townie credit, which might make sense if she's the tremendously powerful scum out there which ryjae hypothesized about. But for all we know that could have been hockeyguy, demon lord. In any case it's a remote enough possibility for me to rule out Kat pending contradictory evidence. psst..you link links back to the start of the game. But I missed the post you are referring to in my read. Care to hook a brother up with a page number? Other than that, I agree with you that it is unlikely that Kat was scumbuddies with hockeyguy.
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Jun 2, 2008 17:38:37 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jun 2, 2008 17:38:37 GMT -5
* I think another approach worth taking (in addition, not instead of) is examining which votes seem particularly pro-town. If we are making the assumption that certain votes are scummy, we should explore the flip side, too. Some votes, such as ones that put scum "over the top" as lynch favorites seem like strong candidates. Since I am asking people to clairfy...I don't follow this. It's probably just me having a reading comprehension problem today, but you would mind rephrasing? I took a couple (from my perspective) logical steps but didn't detail them in the post, so here they are. If we're going to look at late votes on hockeyguy based on the notion that his inevitable lynching made such votes easy places for scum to hide, then that has to imply a sort of "cut off" (or perhaps more of a sliding scale?) at which point votes become less meaningful. If less meaningful votes are a good place for scum to hide, and they are, then more meaningful votes would be something scum would try and avoid, right? I mean, as long as we're being consistent here. So what constitutes a more meaningful vote? Tie breakers? Early votes? Votes that preceed claims? FWIW, I admit meaningful might not be the right word. It suffices to say that if some votes are "scummy" than it must mean that other votes are "townie." And that's all I'm getting at. psst..you link links back to the start of the game. But I missed the post you are referring to in my read. Care to hook a brother up with a page number? Doh, here is ryjae's post. Page 8, post # 219.
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Jun 2, 2008 17:47:55 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 2, 2008 17:47:55 GMT -5
Since I am asking people to clairfy...I don't follow this. It's probably just me having a reading comprehension problem today, but you would mind rephrasing? I took a couple (from my perspective) logical steps but didn't detail them in the post, so here they are. If we're going to look at late votes on hockeyguy based on the notion that his inevitable lynching made such votes easy places for scum to hide, then that has to imply a sort of "cut off" (or perhaps more of a sliding scale?) at which point votes become less meaningful. If less meaningful votes are a good place for scum to hide, and they are, then more meaningful votes would be something scum would try and avoid, right? I mean, as long as we're being consistent here. So what constitutes a more meaningful vote? Tie breakers? Early votes? Votes that preceed claims? FWIW, I admit meaningful might not be the right word. It suffices to say that if some votes are "scummy" than it must mean that other votes are "townie." And that's all I'm getting at. Gottcha. Totally follow that line of thinking, and think it makes sense to a certain degree. psst..you link links back to the start of the game. But I missed the post you are referring to in my read. Care to hook a brother up with a page number? Doh, here is ryjae's post. Page 8, post # 219.[/quote] And thanks for the working link and the page number. Now that I see the post you are talking about, I remember reading it the first time. Gotta love the visual memory.
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Jun 2, 2008 18:18:41 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Jun 2, 2008 18:18:41 GMT -5
My initial reactions: * Despite his early vote, SDG can't be ruled out because his vote simply lacks bandwagon-starting potential. In fact, it tended to piss people off. Of course, a random vote on a comrade seems like a strange play, but one not without its possible justifications as a scum player. Still firmly in "not sure about him" territory. Thank you, I was thinking the same thing. I found it very strange that Rysto used this vote to somewhat confirm stardragonman. Not necessarily scummy, but not good logic either.
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Jun 2, 2008 19:12:14 GMT -5
Post by Kison on Jun 2, 2008 19:12:14 GMT -5
Are you suggesting there is only one type of Demon, or did you simply mean "don't look like type XXX demons"? Re-read your post here a few times Kison...and I just wanted you to clarify what you are getting at. If you think I'm hinting at something, I believe you're mistaken. The way Rysto phrased his post seemed to indicate he only believes there is one type of Demon who aren't aligned, or even aligned but not fully aware of each other, because he was basing the Town vibe he got from Kat and stardragon on their behavior surrounding Hockeyguy. That wouldn't work if there are two types of Demons. Mildly interesting because I figured most people were under the assumption that there were two separate groups wandering around. So Rysto making this post where he seems to assume there's one group(not necessarily true) seems to indicate extra info suggesting the opposite, which would indicate the possibility of being scum himself.
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Jun 2, 2008 20:00:54 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 2, 2008 20:00:54 GMT -5
Re-read your post here a few times Kison...and I just wanted you to clarify what you are getting at. If you think I'm hinting at something, I believe you're mistaken. The way Rysto phrased his post seemed to indicate he only believes there is one type of Demon who aren't aligned, or even aligned but not fully aware of each other, because he was basing the Town vibe he got from Kat and stardragon on their behavior surrounding Hockeyguy. That wouldn't work if there are two types of Demons. Mildly interesting because I figured most people were under the assumption that there were two separate groups wandering around. So Rysto making this post where he seems to assume there's one group(not necessarily true) seems to indicate extra info suggesting the opposite, which would indicate the possibility of being scum himself. I am intriqued by your theories and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Like everyone else, I've been operating under the 2 demon type/group theory. I think there is a possibility of 2 separate scum groups with kill ability. With a group this large starting out, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Batman had lots of killers, and some dissappointed gastard mods that there wasn't more blood. Then again there may be only one group and we have a vig or serial killer to contend with as well. Ryjae said that there was an order to how to unpossess someone, so I wonder if Hal died because of an exorcism gone awry, or if he was holy watered when he should have been exorcised or exorcised when he should have been holy watered. Possible that Hal was killed without malice. Also possible that scum killed him. Or that scum killed KidV. Ow, I think I just thought myself into an aneurism.
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Jun 2, 2008 20:32:11 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jun 2, 2008 20:32:11 GMT -5
Uh, really? I seem to recall some discussion along those lines early in Day One -- while we were discussing Type 1 vs. Type 2 demons -- but now that Hal was shown to be have been a possessed Townie who was working for a town victory, that theory just doesn't fit anymore. I suppose that it's possible that there are two separate groups of type 1 demons out there. I didn't consider that, I must admit.
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Jun 2, 2008 20:46:15 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Jun 2, 2008 20:46:15 GMT -5
.But before storyteller's eyes, something else began to happen. A dark mist began to pour out of Hal's open eyes and mouth. Soon the mist congealed into a cloud. The cloud paused and hovered in the air as if considering storyteller, then it rose into the air, going higher and higher into the sky until it finally disappeared from view. Do you think that it's safe to assume from this that the Demonic Possessor does not transfer to another player?
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Jun 2, 2008 20:52:19 GMT -5
Post by Kison on Jun 2, 2008 20:52:19 GMT -5
The possessed townie isn't the same as the demon who possesses them, I don't think. Read the opening post from Day One again. Also, possessed Townie working for a Town victory doesn't compute. What would the point of possession be if they were simply town-aligned?
One thing I don't understand is that the "Type 2" demons are said not to look like humans, implying they're not even among the playerbase. Yet someone would have to possess the townies in order for that to work. Unless this is what you were saying earlier, Rysto about them being a set aspect of the game. Meaning, there were a set number of possessed Townies in the game at the start. The fact we didn't have a "Night Zero" would further support that theory, I think.
I don't know why Hal would want to be converted back to Town. I guess because it would make him confirmed having been exorcised successfully. This doesn't make possessed Townies pro-town. It means Hal probably wasn't playing his role correctly. It's like a Townie wanting to get recruited by a leading cult.
But thinking this through, if the possessed Townies were set from the start, I don't think this insinuates one way or another whether or not they are with or against the other 'type' of demons. I could see it working both ways.
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Jun 2, 2008 20:56:37 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on Jun 2, 2008 20:56:37 GMT -5
I gotta admit that for much of Day 1, I was operating under the belief that there were two types of demon players, Type 1 & Type 2, whether they were the same team or not? Don't know. We had to kill them all anyway.
But obviously from the colour around Hal's death (sorry to see you go mate) it looks like the D2mon(s) are a game mechanic and not a player.
*edited before posting* I note that while I've been typing this Kat has addressed what I was about to say - my reading of the colour seems to suggest the possessing demon has gone for good with Hal being killed. However and that is a big however, Atarus fairly clearly stated in response to a question that any colour after the Day 1 opening post should not be relied upon. So paranoid me says we need to assume that someone else is now possessed.
On this general topic, Darth are you still having problems with your footwear?
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Jun 2, 2008 21:11:07 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Jun 2, 2008 21:11:07 GMT -5
I'm watching the return of The Mole to make sure my paranoia level is high enough.
I'm going to try doing today backwards. Find all the people I don't think are scum, and see who is left. Off the top of my head, I don't think Story, Rysto, Buff, Ryjae, Kat, and Darth are scum.
Anyone have new shoe problems today?
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Jun 2, 2008 21:27:23 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jun 2, 2008 21:27:23 GMT -5
I haven't had time to read the thread yet, and I don't have time now, but really quick I want to address this: I'm watching the return of The Mole to make sure my paranoia level is high enough. I'm going to try doing today backwards. Find all the people I don't think are scum, and see who is left. Off the top of my head, I don't think Story, Rysto, Buff, Ryjae, Kat, and Darth are scum. Anyone have new shoe problems today? I have to say, this post REALLY rubs me the wrong way. I believe a common scum tactic is to say you trust town players, and that's what the impression I got from this post is. Would you care to elaborate on why you don't think any of these players are scum? Obviously you don't need to explain ryjae or Darth. In the meantime, FOS hawkeyeop!--FCOD
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Jun 2, 2008 21:35:06 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 2, 2008 21:35:06 GMT -5
I'm watching the return of The Mole to make sure my paranoia level is high enough. I'm going to try doing today backwards. Find all the people I don't think are scum, and see who is left. Off the top of my head, I don't think Story, Rysto, Buff, Ryjae, Kat, and Darth are scum. Anyone have new shoe problems today? I'll agree with you on the last 4. Not sure about Story and Rysto though.
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Jun 2, 2008 21:39:47 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Jun 2, 2008 21:39:47 GMT -5
I don't know why Hal would want to be converted back to Town. I guess because it would make him confirmed having been exorcised successfully. This doesn't make possessed Townies pro-town. It means Hal probably wasn't playing his role correctly. It's like a Townie wanting to get recruited by a leading cult. But thinking this through, if the possessed Townies were set from the start, I don't think this insinuates one way or another whether or not they are with or against the other 'type' of demons. I could see it working both ways. This is just a wild idea off the top of my head, but maybe...Possessed Townies win with the Town, but as long as they're Possessed, they're included in the scumcount? Therefore, they want to be converted, because that'll put increase the Town population and decrease the scum population? *blinks* I'm not even sure that makes sense. Someone else read it and let me know if I'm a babbling idiot or not.
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Jun 2, 2008 21:45:34 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 2, 2008 21:45:34 GMT -5
.But before storyteller's eyes, something else began to happen. A dark mist began to pour out of Hal's open eyes and mouth. Soon the mist congealed into a cloud. The cloud paused and hovered in the air as if considering storyteller, then it rose into the air, going higher and higher into the sky until it finally disappeared from view. Do you think that it's safe to assume from this that the Demonic Possessor does not transfer to another player? I don't think it's safe to assume anything yet. Has everyone checked in for Day 2? Plus we don't know if Hal was exorcised incorrectly or just outright killed. And we don't know if there is a difference in what happens during an exorcism or kill. I think there are too many questions yet to be answered to start assuming anything.
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Jun 2, 2008 21:45:57 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Jun 2, 2008 21:45:57 GMT -5
I'm watching the return of The Mole to make sure my paranoia level is high enough. I'm going to try doing today backwards. Find all the people I don't think are scum, and see who is left. Off the top of my head, I don't think Story, Rysto, Buff, Ryjae, Kat, and Darth are scum. Anyone have new shoe problems today? I'll agree with you on the last 4. Not sure about Story and Rysto though. Story and Rysto are on the list, because they argued against the lynch of a confirmed scum even after said lynch was inevitable. Hell, Story is still arguing against it. Just doesn't seem like something scum would do. I could be wrong of course, Story and Rysto are very talented players, but I doubt, barring unforeseen evidence, they will be at the top of my list of my lynch list for today.
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Jun 2, 2008 21:54:57 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Jun 2, 2008 21:54:57 GMT -5
I haven't had time to read the thread yet, and I don't have time now, but really quick I want to address this: I'm watching the return of The Mole to make sure my paranoia level is high enough. I'm going to try doing today backwards. Find all the people I don't think are scum, and see who is left. Off the top of my head, I don't think Story, Rysto, Buff, Ryjae, Kat, and Darth are scum. Anyone have new shoe problems today? I have to say, this post REALLY rubs me the wrong way. I believe a common scum tactic is to say you trust town players, and that's what the impression I got from this post is. Would you care to elaborate on why you don't think any of these players are scum? Obviously you don't need to explain ryjae or Darth. In the meantime, FOS hawkeyeop!--FCOD It might be parcing words, but I didn't say I trusted them. I don't plan on following behind their wishes with out supportive evidence. What I do plan on doing is going through the posts thus far and figuring out who mosts seems pro-town, and see who is leftover. I will end up with a list, but I don't think lists are bad. I personally prefer everyone gets their cards out on the table.
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Jun 2, 2008 22:43:58 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jun 2, 2008 22:43:58 GMT -5
I'll agree with you on the last 4. Not sure about Story and Rysto though. Story and Rysto are on the list, because they argued against the lynch of a confirmed scum even after said lynch was inevitable. Hell, Story is still arguing against it. Just doesn't seem like something scum would do. I could be wrong of course, Story and Rysto are very talented players, but I doubt, barring unforeseen evidence, they will be at the top of my list of my lynch list for today. Really? I have an entirely different viewpoint on that. I think Story and Rysto are both strong players who many of us look up to and follow. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a scummy storyteller would try to get people to follow him off of a scum bandwagon, then trying to validate his action the next day. YMMV, but I'm not putting either of them in the town column just yet.
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Jun 2, 2008 22:46:53 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Jun 2, 2008 22:46:53 GMT -5
I'm watching the return of The Mole to make sure my paranoia level is high enough. I'm going to try doing today backwards. Find all the people I don't think are scum, and see who is left. Off the top of my head, I don't think Story, Rysto, Buff, Ryjae, Kat, and Darth are scum. I know I am not the first to say this at this point, but I don't get that list dude. Story and Rysto? Why? Story hasn't participated much yet (this I understand is relative, but he just hasn't been around as much as he usually is), and Rysto has but hasn't given me a strong impression one way or the other yet. I might not have even given your list a second glance if you hadn't included them. But since you did... For the record I am also having issues with Buff's claim. Not that I don't believe she is a townie of some flavor, probably even a mason, but she has a magic bag (sort of) and frankly, havining just finished a game where I was a "magic bag*" mason (very decidedly playing for a solo win) I don't like it. I will say, while it is not outside the relm of possiblity for Kat to be a demon, at this point I would find it hard to believe that she was on the same team as hockeyguy. But we had two deaths last Night and almost no explination, I can't put her in any camp other than "not on the same team as hockeyguy" until we know more. Ryjae and Darth I am mostly on board with though. Ryjae's claim rang true for me, and I more or less feel that Hal confirms Darth. So my point of all of this is...you can't just say you think people are not scum without actually saying something more. *can this be entered into our collective lexicon? I like it!
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Jun 2, 2008 23:06:41 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 2, 2008 23:06:41 GMT -5
Buffy, What's the name of your Mason Group?
Just a warm up while I type up some thoughts.
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Jun 2, 2008 23:35:02 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 2, 2008 23:35:02 GMT -5
Voter Analysis: (My Fav. stuff to look at!) Final Vote Count (As per Atarus, Night 1 Thread) hockeyguy8435 (10): stardragonman, Kat, ryjae, misterblockey, Roosh, bufftabby, Rebel, FlyingCowofDoom, Merestil Haye, tdpatriots12 Tragic (4): KidVermicious, hockeymonkey, Darth Sensitive, hockeyguy8435bufftabby (2): Survivor Smurf, Tragic misterblockey (2): NAF1138, Nanook FlyingCowofDoom (2): Rysto, Blaster Master tdpatriots12 (2): storyteller, hawkeyeop Merestil Haye (1): Hal BristonNot Voting (2): Czech, Kison *Known Townies in Green, Assholes in Red* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now then, let's go through all the previous Vote Counts, and see what the trends were: Here are the Official Vote Counts Of Atarus/Koldanar. Again with the same Color Scheme:
May 29, 2008, 5:12pm VC #1: Vote Count: Tragic (1): KidVermicious Stardragonman (1): Darth Sensitive Hal Briston (1): FlyingCowofDoom Not Voting (22): Do I have to name everybody? May 30, 2008, 10:24am VC #2:Vote CountCzech (2): Roosh, KidVermiciousStardragonman (1): Darth Sensitive Hal Briston (1): FlyingCowofDoom FlyingCowofDoom (1): bufftabby KidVermicious (1): misterblockey misterblockey (1): NAF1138 Not Voting: (18)[/sub] Here's where it starts to get interesting: May 30, 2008, 5:23pm (Koldanar's VC)less than 12 hours laterVote countStardragonman 2 : Darth, hockeyguy Hal Briston 1 : FlyingCowofDoom FCOD 1 : Bufftabby MrBlocky 2 : NAF, Nanook Czech 2 : Roosh, KidVermiciousBLaM 1 : hawkeyemoth Bufftabby 2 : storyteller, TDpatssuck Hockeyguy 1 : stardragonman.[/sub] Not Voting: 13, I believe. May 31, 2008, 10:18am Atarus VC#3 24 Hours after VC#2 hockeyguy8435 (8): stardragonman, Kat, hawkeyeop, ryjae, misterblockey, Roosh, bufftabby, Rebel bufftabby (5): tdpatriots12, Survivor Smurf, Hal Briston, FlyingCowofDoom, Tragic misterblockey (2): NAF1138, Nanook Tragic (2): KidVermicious, hockeymonkey Stardragonman (1): Darth Sensitive FlyingCowofDoom (1): Rysto Not Voting: (7) My initial thoughts:Obviously the last 24 hours is the Biggie. -There is a big jump from the 30th where the biggest leader only has 2 votes (Czech) with 18 Non-Voters, going into the final 24 hours, where 11 more have voted, reducing the non-voters to 7, and then with the final count of 2 non-voters. --We NEED to vote earlier than that, and we need to have better voter participation in future days. 2 Non voters isn't bad, but 0 would be better. -Just an interesting note: KidVermicious was an aggressive player - he was one of the 3 voters out there in the first vote count, and he was also the most prolific poster of the Day. (Something that makes me, the 2nd highest poster of that Day, quite a damn bit nervous about- remember the Joker anyone? ) -The big thing is though- you don't even SEE the Buffy Lynch Mob on these official charts. There was a drive within 24 hours to try and lynch buffy, and it quickly evaporated with most of the voters then settling onto the other Wagon Choice. Those are the critical time periods I'm gonna check out- the Votes that occurred from Koldanar's voting record until the Final Lynch. This is mostly a Data post of post counts, so more thoughts on that smaller section (ie: my thoughts #3) to come in the next one, as that's what I said I wanted to look at. This is just a time frame one.
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Day Two
Jun 2, 2008 23:42:44 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on Jun 2, 2008 23:42:44 GMT -5
-There is a big jump from the 30th where the biggest leader only has 2 votes (Czech) with 18 Non-Voters, going into the final 24 hours, CORRECTION:Czech was the Biggest Leader, but more so during Koldanar's Vote count, where he [ koldy] MISSED a 3rd Vote on Czech by MrBlocky. . Thusly, Czech was the biggest leader by the time Koldanar posted his VC with 3 at the time.
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Post by Darth Sensitive on Jun 3, 2008 0:17:22 GMT -5
I don't know exactly what happened with Hal, but I do think that it has confirmed him as protown. Have two people dead tonight, I would theorize that we have the scum nightkill, and a vig style player, who, going off the color - went after the type ii demon. Some player obviously didn't trust him, and he's now dead. Time for me to take a look at something that bothered me at the end of the day yesterday. But the player who posted it is dead and town. This felt like scum trying to present a defense for another to seize upon (RE: Blam and Me in recruiting) Left with nothing as of right now. Am watching hockey on tape delay, but need to get to bed for work tomorrow. Grr. No winner yet.
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