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Post by Hawkmod on Jul 15, 2009 15:30:13 GMT -5
No current player allowed! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jul 15, 2009 15:32:19 GMT -5
Yay somewhere for me to mock the players from a distance!
--FCOD
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 15, 2009 15:39:46 GMT -5
Is there a spoiler forum setup?
And I actually knew what Pleo was referring to when he mentioned CRC32.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 15, 2009 15:40:43 GMT -5
Yay somewhere for me to mock the players from a distance! --FCOD And a place for the rest of us observors to mock you close up.
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Post by Hawkmod on Jul 15, 2009 15:41:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I 'll send you a link in a bit. I just want to add in the last minutes changes I made off line.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jul 15, 2009 15:48:53 GMT -5
Yeah I understand about the hash...I'm a programmer. And it was a damn good idea, before hawkeye had to go ruin it and post the vanilla PM.
--FCOD
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 16, 2009 12:13:02 GMT -5
On preview: what peek said. Boy, I wish I had your knack for clear and pithy communication. Early nomination for best post of the game. It's funny regardless of whether or not the irony is intentional.
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Post by Hawkmod on Jul 16, 2009 12:44:57 GMT -5
Yup. I loved that. Also Pumpjack's
I like when newbies figure that everyone else knows what is going on.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jul 20, 2009 13:03:45 GMT -5
I'll try and get a post in analysing my current suspicion after eating some tea. Usually I like to soak the tea in boiling water and then just drink the water, but hey to each his own! --FCOD
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 20, 2009 20:07:05 GMT -5
We are completely unspoiled here right? Not that I know anything.
Tomorrow morning is going to be entertaining, at least we didn't loose any power roles with the mislynch, although having the doc outed so soon is not great. I still think cookies is on the level, I have played with NAF a few times, I think he be scum. Special Ed is acting a little weird, unless he is just spread between several games. I hope the whole issue of cookies messed up PM and the handshaking goes away, it is conversation at least, but it is between so limited a group it is a bit derailing.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 20, 2009 21:03:02 GMT -5
Well, you were a power role.
Not a very powerful one, but you'd be surprised how useful your power can be in the endgame.
(See town blocker.)
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 21, 2009 2:28:35 GMT -5
Well, you were a power role. Not a very powerful one, but you'd be surprised how useful your power can be in the endgame. (See town blocker.) Good point , it would have been useful at end game, although a little constrained by the fact it wouldn't work on some people and I would have to get in early for it to work. Don't quite follow the town blocker thought, isn't that something that would block scum from doing something, or just in the sense that it is very powerful at end game?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 21, 2009 6:55:43 GMT -5
Don't quite follow the town blocker thought, isn't that something that would block scum from doing something, or just in the sense that it is very powerful at end game? In the sense that it's very powerful at end game, but rather useless in the early game.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Jul 21, 2009 9:23:31 GMT -5
Hey PCM, now that you're dead come play in the three clan mini!
Yes, I'm desperate for players
--FCOD
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 21, 2009 9:48:12 GMT -5
Hey PCM, now that you're dead come play in the three clan mini! Yes, I'm desperate for players--FCOD How could I possibly refuse an invite like that
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Post by Hawkmod on Jul 22, 2009 13:12:08 GMT -5
Good point , it would have been useful at end game, although a little constrained by the fact it wouldn't work on some people and I would have to get in early for it to work. I'm sad you got killed. It was one of my off-beat roles that I wanted to see how it would work. The role was built I was annoyed my girlfriend was being overly agreeable to people she didn't agree with. It was kind of inexplicable too. The one Day 1 in which town doesn't discuss a random lynch, it essentially randomly lynches.
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 23, 2009 0:52:29 GMT -5
Oh, and I quoted Pollux because I meant to add that every time you post I have to watch the little man dance for a few minutes. Is dfrntbreign posting nekkid again?
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 23, 2009 1:11:54 GMT -5
Good point , it would have been useful at end game, although a little constrained by the fact it wouldn't work on some people and I would have to get in early for it to work. I'm sad you got killed. It was one of my off-beat roles that I wanted to see how it would work. The role was built I was annoyed my girlfriend was being overly agreeable to people she didn't agree with. It was kind of inexplicable too. The one Day 1 in which town doesn't discuss a random lynch, it essentially randomly lynches. heh the sources for inspiration for mafia roles are manyfold. well looks like you have plenty of other roles out there to keep the discussion going, quite the carnage last night.
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 26, 2009 21:31:47 GMT -5
Pollux just posted this ...
"We know there was a third-party roleblocker. So there is definitely at least one extra non-scum faction in the game. I don't personally think it's likely that the faction was just Mhaye, but it's possible."
I assume he was talking about whoever blocked HM the Mercenary. So how does he know it was a 3rd party and not a scum role blocker. I say PIS to you Mr Pollux, or did I miss something?
Also regarding this "We know the town win condition is "rebels are no longer a threat." This means that any third-party players are erroneous to the town win condition and no third-party HAS to die for us to win"
Not true at all , if the peace keeper win condition is to stop the carnage (I have no idea of the mechanism for that, but it would be in keeping with a Peacekeeper mission) then if they win by bringing peace to Quantom, the rebels are not eliminated, so town doesn't win if peace keepers win.
Not sure but I think Pollux knows too much, he could be a peacekeeper hence he knows about the 3rd party block and is trying to tell town this is a subtle way.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 27, 2009 6:56:15 GMT -5
Pollux just posted this ... "We know there was a third-party roleblocker. So there is definitely at least one extra non-scum faction in the game. I don't personally think it's likely that the faction was just Mhaye, but it's possible." I assume he was talking about whoever blocked HM the Mercenary. So how does he know it was a 3rd party and not a scum role blocker. I say PIS to you Mr Pollux, or did I miss something? You missed Hawkeyeop's post where he says he left out the fact that MHaye was a roleblocker in opening color. So there is no PIS on Pollux. It's open knowledge that MHaye was a 3rd party roleblocker.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 27, 2009 7:00:23 GMT -5
Not true at all , if the peace keeper win condition is to stop the carnage (I have no idea of the mechanism for that, but it would be in keeping with a Peacekeeper mission) then if they win by bringing peace to Quantom, the rebels are not eliminated, so town doesn't win if peace keepers win. The win condition says that the rebels are to no longer be a threat. That does not strictly say they have to be eliminated/killed. Pollux is stipulating that there might be other ways to win other than killing all the mafia. So there is no PIS here, either. It's a reasonable point to bring up, whether it's valid or not.
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 27, 2009 10:12:41 GMT -5
So apart from salient facts and a correct reading of the published win condition my theory is still sound. Prolly a good job I am already dead, 'cos if I wasn't I would be.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 27, 2009 12:17:22 GMT -5
So apart from salient facts and a correct reading of the published win condition my theory is still sound. Prolly a good job I am already dead, 'cos if I wasn't I would be. I don't follow. Nowhere did Pollux imply he knew that HM was blocked by MHaye. In what you quoted, he doesn't even mention HM at all. And the fact that he finds it likely that MHaye was part of a larger faction is reasonable as well, since a 3rd party solo-roleblocker is pretty much a lame role, in all senses of the word "lame". Unless that roleblocker is a survivor as well. But there would have to be a good reason in the setup to have a role like that. Nothing Pollux has said strikes me as something that would require PIS to figure out. Pollux has always been an intuitive player and from a metagame standpoint frequently posits these types of things.
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 27, 2009 21:25:58 GMT -5
No I was agreeing with you and reiterating the massive holes in my logic, which is to say it was all horribly wrong. It wasn't a serious comment.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 28, 2009 6:50:52 GMT -5
No I was agreeing with you and reiterating the massive holes in my logic, which is to say it was all horribly wrong. It wasn't a serious comment. Ahhh...gotcha. (On a side note, you should ask Hawkeyeop to be spoiled. It's a neat setup he's got going here.)
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 28, 2009 18:58:45 GMT -5
I am kinda trying to play along at home (not so well as it would appear) , and not get spoiled in case a sub is needed.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jul 29, 2009 6:38:07 GMT -5
I am kinda trying to play along at home (not so well as it would appear) , and not get spoiled in case a sub is needed. Hawk said there will be no subbing in this game.
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Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Jul 29, 2009 19:14:14 GMT -5
I thought he said as a last resort, although based on the modkill I guess it really is a very last resort. Time to get spoiled , as thinking about it isn't getting me anywhere, although it feels like turning to the end of a book to find out who did it.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 30, 2009 16:11:17 GMT -5
Ah, nice to be back to my usual game--getting Night-killed early by scum.
The Town is still fumbling, but that's to be expected this early in the game. I do hope they do better about voting early to avoid the last day rush. At least there's a lot to talk about--the current claims need to be scrutinized. It's one thing to unvote someone near the end of the Day to avoid lynching a power role. But they really need check the claims for plausibility and consistency.
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Post by zlw on Jul 30, 2009 18:04:23 GMT -5
I don't want to be spoiled.... yet. Looks like I missed an awesome game
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