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Post by special on Aug 28, 2009 6:33:04 GMT -5
Would anyone like to speculate on why gryff's dead? The first to claim is now the first to be night killed? Is this a coincidence or some gastardly action? My first guess was that one of the cops would be killed last night. Do the scum know that our cops can't get any results that are worth anything? Or did they think that the cops would only investigate us millers (since that's who FCOD assigned them) and that the scum cops would be safe for a night? The Scum know that an investigation of a claimed miller is useless. The Scum also know that the cops couldn't trust their own investigations since this is a gastard game.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 28, 2009 14:01:51 GMT -5
Now an offer that's only good for a limited time--another vote count!
Updated vote count:
Current Votes: BillMC (1): FCOD
Currently Not Voting: All the rest of yous.
As of now, BillMC will be lynched at Dusk.
Oh, and FCOD, you set the counter for 3 PM Eastern, not Central. You might want to update that.
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Post by special on Aug 28, 2009 20:17:18 GMT -5
OK, since I'm not getting the participation I expected.
Vote: FCOD
I'm not liking the take charge attitude he had with us cops having us completely waste our investigation by investigating claimed millers who might be Scum.
I'm also not liking his jumping right on Bill off the bat.
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Post by texcat on Aug 28, 2009 20:45:21 GMT -5
FCOD was very quick to try to get confirmed as Town Cop: Also, BillMc: why don't you ask me a couple of words that you think are unique to your PM so you can also verify that I have the same PM as you. FCOD first commenting that the cops should investigate other cops, but in the same post saying that he thought the scum were hiding among the millers: Ed suggested that we investigate ourselves, which is OK I guess. I think we should each investigate another cop. I'm not really even sure what this will accomplish, but it seems pointless to investigate millers. For example: FlyingCowOfDoom investigates BillMc BillMc investigates Special Ed Special Ed investigates hockeyguy hockeyguy investigates FlyingCowOfDoom We already know that we all have identical PMs (assuming hockeyguy posts a hash that checks out), so we don't need to do a self investigation to verify our sanity (for new players, a cop that is not sane will get inaccurate results). I think lynching one of the millers is our best move for today. I find it more likely that scum cover roles would be millers than cops, and either way the millers have no useful powers so losing them is less hurtful to the town. FCOD trying to explain why he assigned everyone a miller to investigate?: So, here's the deal. We know that the entire town consists of cops and millers. Because of the handshaking, we know that the scum was provided with cover role PMs. If the town has 4 cops it would be incredibly unfair unless everyone else in the town was a miller. Therefore, the cop mechanism is completely pointless. What I was trying to accomplish is seeing what people would come up with for results. Specifically, I was looking for a cop to investigate another cop. One thing that I notice scum doing all the time is trying to get another townie to trust him/her. Therefore, I believe that BillMc is scum, and he says he investigated Ed because he knows Ed is Town, and now Ed will believe Bill. FCOD says one thing, and then flip-flops and says something else, and then flip-flops and does a third thing. He jumped in to try and control the investigations because he was worried that he and his scum buddy might be exposed. When he thought he could control who investigated whom, he thought it good to investigate cops. As soon as we started to try to randomize it, he switched to investigating millers. When 2 cops didn't follow his instructions, he immediately tries to say that was actually what he wanted all along, and that they are (or at least BillMc is) scummy. Vote: FCOD
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Post by The Real FCOD on Aug 28, 2009 21:20:59 GMT -5
Hey, you can believe me or not, that's fine. While I initially did want each of us to investigate another cop, I thought better of it. Obviously you just have my word about secretly hoping the cops wouldn't all follow the plan, but when I turn up town please try to reconsider what I said. Bill's action was the most scummy, from my perspective. once I'm mod-confirmed (by dying) please lynch him.
--FCOD
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Post by hockeyguy8435 on Aug 28, 2009 21:45:23 GMT -5
Vote: Bill
I'm leaning towards FCODs thought process on this more.
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Post by texcat on Aug 28, 2009 22:55:27 GMT -5
hmmm ... looks like my choice for lynch tomorrow will be hockeyguy
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Post by BillMc on Aug 29, 2009 3:05:19 GMT -5
Hey, you can believe me or not, that's fine. While I initially did want each of us to investigate another cop, I thought better of it. Obviously you just have my word about secretly hoping the cops wouldn't all follow the plan, but when I turn up town please try to reconsider what I said. Bill's action was the most scummy, from my perspective. once I'm mod-confirmed (by dying) please lynch him. --FCOD You originally proposed cop on cop investigations, you now seem rather adverse to them. Doing as you say makes folk town, not doing as you say makes them scum? What makes you the authority on this? Vote: fcod
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Post by The Real FCOD on Aug 29, 2009 11:28:07 GMT -5
You originally proposed cop on cop investigations, you now seem rather adverse to them. Doing as you say makes folk town, not doing as you say makes them scum? What makes you the authority on this? Vote: fcod [/color][/quote]Wow, what a blatant mis-characterization! I was looking for someone to do something scummy. You're the only one that did, from my perspective. Ed didn't do what I said, but he did something I'd do as Town. Think about, other people in the town: What would you do if you were scum pretending to be a cop? You can't be sure what the real cops investigations will look like, so to avoid looking like a liar you do the only sure thing and investigate someone you know is town. And again, perhaps you should lynch me today...because when I'm mod-confirmed to be town you can believe what I say. The cop powers are useless anyway. Let's see how close to LyLo we are, assuming two scum: Lynch me toDay: 5 / 2 toNight: 4 / 2 Lynch Bill tomorrow: 4 / 1 toMorrow night: 3 / 1...LyLo. If you lynch me today you can't mislynch again. If there's three scum and you lynch me the game is over. I don't think there are three though, that's unbalanced. --FCOD.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 29, 2009 13:38:16 GMT -5
It's time for another vote count!
Updated vote count:
Current Votes: BillMC (2): FCOD, hockeyguy FCOD (3): Special Ed, texcat, BillMC
Currently Not Voting: Total Lost, MiteyMouse
As of now, FCOD will be lynched at Dusk.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 29, 2009 15:00:05 GMT -5
As the Day draws to a close, we find our weary cast at the local steak house. It seems red meat is healthier than donuts in this village.
Speical Ed wipes the last of the bbq sauce from his finger and announces "I command you as head of this 'ere table, to pick up the check."
"I pay for no man." states FCOD.
"How about for a woman?" asks texcat.
"I pay for no woman either!" yells FCOD raising his fist.
"So be it!" replies BillMC surgically loping off FCOD's left arm with a steak knife.
"Now get your other hand in your pocket and pay up!" demands Special Ed.
"Tis but a scratch."
"A scratch? Your arm's off!" says texcat stating the obvious.
"I've had worse."
"You liar!" exclaims BillMC while pushing back his/her chair then deftly slicing off FCOD's other arm with a particularly vicious salad spoon.
"Oh, had enough, eh?"
"Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left," says Special Ed.
"Just a flesh wound," protests FCOD.
"Look, I'll have your leg," announces texcat and rips FCOD's right leg off and dips it in bbq sauce. "Hey! I'm still hungry!"
"Right, I'll do you for that!"
"What are you going to do, bleed on me?" smirks Special Ed and rips off the other leg and tosses it to BillMC.
"All right! All right! We'll go halves?"
"This Day is so over, let's get out of here," suggests texcat.
"Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bastards! Come back here and pay your own share! I'll bite your legs off!"
FCOD, Town Cop, has picked up his final check.
Night 2 Begins now and will end Sunday at 3 P.M. CDT. All night actions must be in to me by then.
Final Vote Count:
BillMC (2): FCOD, hockeyguy FCOD (3): Special Ed, texcat, BillMC
Not Vote: Total Lost, MiteyMouse
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 29, 2009 15:03:55 GMT -5
Let me know if you want spoilers, FCOD.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Aug 29, 2009 15:10:44 GMT -5
Ha! The Black Knight always triumphs!
Yeah, I want spoilers.
--FCOD
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Post by Total Ullz on Aug 30, 2009 4:05:17 GMT -5
Oh, no - I can't believe I missed the Day-end. So sorry everyone
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 30, 2009 15:02:06 GMT -5
Total Lost enters a reception room.
"Good morning, Sorry for my low participation, but I'd like to have an argument with the Mafia, please."
"Certainly" replies Hoopy, "Have you been here before?"
"No, this is my first time."
"I see, well we'll see who's free at the moment. Mr. FCOD's free, but he's a little bit concilliatory on account of being dead. No. Try Mr. NAF, room 12."
"Thank you."
Total skips along the corridor and enters room 12.
"WHADDAYOU WANT?" yells NAF.
"Well, Well, I was told outside that..."
"DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!" bellows NAF.
"W.What?"
"SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!"
"B...bu..but I came here for an argument!!" pleads Total.
"OH! Oh! I am sorry! This is abuse! No, you want room 12A, next door."
Total quickly leaves and enters room 12A.
"Is this the right room for an argument?"
"No. This is killed by the Mafia."
"Oh no it isn't," replies Total.
"Oh yes it is," reply the Mafia.
"Oh dear" sobs Total.
Total Lost, Town Miller, will be arguing no more.
Day 3 begins now and will end Tuesday at 3 P.M. CDT.
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Post by special on Aug 30, 2009 15:14:05 GMT -5
OK, so my initial thought was:
Perhaps all the millers are Town and the other Cops are the Scum.
So, I investigated Bill.
He came back Town.
What does this mean? Either 1) He's Town or 2) I'm a Naive Cop
I'll wait on the other results to see if maybe we can figure out more of the puzzle
Claimed Millers: texcat MiteyMouse gryff Total Lost sirsam972
Claimed Cops: Special Ed BillMC hockeyguy8435 FCOD
with 5 alive, I assume we're at lynch or lose.
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Post by MiteyMouse on Aug 30, 2009 17:36:12 GMT -5
Ok...I gather that we have one of the claimed Cops as Scum and one of the claimed Millers. I know that I am Town so, based on the assumption that one of us is Scum...Vote Textcat
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 30, 2009 18:44:12 GMT -5
Updated vote count:
Current Votes: texcat (1): MiteyMouse
Currently Not Voting: All the rest
As of now, texcat will be lynched at Dusk.
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Post by texcat on Aug 30, 2009 19:32:11 GMT -5
I was totally convinced that FCOD was scum. And then when he flipped town, I was ready to vote Bill today. Not sure what to make of your results, Ed. Is it possible that all millers return as scum and all cops return as town? I'm eagerly awaiting other results.
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Post by special on Aug 30, 2009 20:35:00 GMT -5
I was totally convinced that FCOD was scum. And then when he flipped town, I was ready to vote Bill today. Not sure what to make of your results, Ed. Is it possible that all millers return as scum and all cops return as town? I'm eagerly awaiting other results. It is possible. I haven't investigated a miller yet, so I'll be curious to see what result I get. Though..um..that's assuming that I live and that we lynch a Scum toDay.
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Post by hockeyguy8435 on Aug 30, 2009 22:13:55 GMT -5
Vote: Texcat
For her post about putting her vote on me toDay solely because I voted with FCOD yesterday. That pinged me as Scummy, and here's my follow through on that.
I investigated Bill last Night and got Town. For what it's worth...
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Post by BillMc on Aug 31, 2009 3:12:52 GMT -5
[/color] For her post about putting her vote on me toDay solely because I voted with FCOD yesterday. That pinged me as Scummy, and here's my follow through on that. I investigated Bill last Night and got Town. For what it's worth...[/quote] Town for HG. I had a quick read back of Total's comments - apart from her initial suggestion of lynching a Miller she doesn't seem to have said much. Indeed she said more than Mitey. Texcat's comment seemed out of place - I'm going to re-read.
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Post by BillMc on Aug 31, 2009 4:33:03 GMT -5
WOW on Texcat #52 Day One Begins #58 voted no lynch "Maybe we should try not lynching a townie on the first day."#59 gryff votes texcat for the no lynch proposal #61 total views "no lynch" as anti-town, but not something scum would do #69 ed votes texcat for "no lynch" #87 votes hg "for lack of posts and claims."Yes, I definitely hestitated before claiming, but I thought what I was doing was exposing the scum -- not our power roles. Both of our cops had already claimed, exposing themselves. Though now that we have 3 cops claiming, the only person without a claim is hockeyguy. I'm sure if he ever gets here, he'll claim either cop or miller, like all of the rest of us, but I'd like to see what he has to say for himself, and get it on record. I guess we could have 3 cops since it appears to be a pretty useless role if we all return as scum. This post doesn't scan right - first texcat seems sure (and accepting) that there are two cops, but then decides they are useless if everyone else investigates as scum. #105 handshake Very odd that you do not agree, gryff. Count your o's again. 13 words does agree with mine. But not matching my o's might be reason for me to vote you. Except that you were the first to claim, and unlikely that if you were a scum miller, you would claim so early. My vote remains on hockeyguy. Where is he? Does he have a RL reason for not posting? Otherwise, I am thinking it might be a gastardly reason for not posting? Since all of us except sirsam seem to be confirmed, my vote would literally be a stab in the dark. Rather than kill an innocent townie today, I think we should let our cops try investigating tonight. We have four cops, that's quite a bit of investigating they can do. Texcat switches back to a no-lynch vote, and now believes that the cops investigations (which she had previously said were useless) may yield something - so no-lynch is good? #140 gives the reasons for no-lynch My guess right now is that all of the millers are town, and that we have 2 town cops and 2 mafia cops. That seems like more or less the right balance, doesn't it? On re-reading this post really stands out -- all millers are town -- kinda supported subsequently by two dead millers -- or does it just buy town cred for the remaining millers? Ah, but here's one catch...we're playing in a game where almost half of the town are claimed cops. We will surely have more information tomorrow. So despite suggesting half the cops are scum, texcat appears to be expecting useful information? No scum will bandwagon onto a no lynch -- at least not till the last possible minute, or until someone points it out. Kinda strange comment. FCOD went to all this trouble to collect random number seeds to decide who was going to investigate whom, but it turns out that everyone else investigated ED? ? Pretty funny! And will really be hilarious if hockeyguy did the same thing. So after expecting information from the cops, no disappointment, only laughs. Would anyone like to speculate on why gryff's dead? The first to claim is now the first to be night killed? Is this a coincidence or some gastardly action? My first guess was that one of the cops would be killed last night. Do the scum know that our cops can't get any results that are worth anything? Or did they think that the cops would only investigate us millers (since that's who FCOD assigned them) and that the scum cops would be safe for a night? Given the previous comments about half the cops are scum, and cops providing information, the underlined "do the scum know" line sticks out - how does texcat know for certain that all results will be useless? Indeed this smudges fcod, as it was his plan for cops not to investigate the other cops. But the underlined statement says cops would be useless - so what would it matter if cops investigated cops? the only thing it doesn't do is confirm a miller as scum (or scum as scum) Indeed, texcat's next post goes after fcod for investigating millers: FCOD was very quick to try to get confirmed as Town Cop: FCOD first commenting that the cops should investigate other cops, but in the same post saying that he thought the scum were hiding among the millers: FCOD trying to explain why he assigned everyone a miller to investigate?: hmmm ... looks like my choice for lynch tomorrow will be hockeyguy So in response for HG not voting FCOD, texcat telegraphs her vote for Day 3 I was totally convinced that FCOD was scum. And then when he flipped town, I was ready to vote Bill today. Not sure what to make of your results, Ed. Is it possible that all millers return as scum and all cops return as town? I'm eagerly awaiting other results. Texcat has been pushing on HG from the off, pushing suspicion onto the cops, flip flopping on whether cops will produce useful results, and is now in full back-pedalling mode as a result of the vote from Mitey. Vote: texcat
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Aug 31, 2009 6:18:51 GMT -5
Updated vote count:
Current Votes: texcat (3): MiteyMouse, hockeyguy8435, BillMC
Currently Not Voting: Special Ed, texcat
As of now, texcat will be lynched at Dusk.
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Post by texcat on Aug 31, 2009 6:53:33 GMT -5
Bill, it looks like you are willfully distorting and twisting my words. Aug 27, 2009, 10:40pm, texcat wrote: Given the previous comments about half the cops are scum, and cops providing information, the underlined "do the scum know" line sticks out - how does texcat know for certain that all results will be useless? I don't know for certain, obviously. I was asking if the scum might know for certain. And I still find it odd that none of the cops have been night-killed. It sure looks like the scum are not threatened by them. Also strange that they killed Total Lost last night, when she hadn't even voted yesterday. For the record, I will also note that Total Lost was the second to claim and the second night-killed. Are the scum just messing with us? Texcat has been pushing on HG from the off, pushing suspicion onto the cops, flip flopping on whether cops will produce useful results, and is now in full back-pedalling mode as a result of the vote from Mitey. On day one, I did vote for hockeyguy for non-participation, but unvoted him when he showed up. And yesterday I didn't like his vote for you, Bill. But I would hardly call that pushing from the off. Back-pedalling? Well yes, I was completely wrong about FCOD yesterday. Seems like back-pedalling is a good idea. Start over and look again. It's odd that Mitey hasn't bothered to vote at all for two days and suddenly votes for me. This gives me the feeling that I am the scum target for today. I did have hopes for our cops giving us some information. Even if you can't rely on the results, you can see which results match and which are different. Some information might be gleaned from who is investigating whom, but the results, so far, have been consistent and pretty boring.
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Post by texcat on Sept 1, 2009 9:43:32 GMT -5
Sigh... Vote: BillMc
I hate that Mitey didn't vote the previous two days and now shows up to vote at lylo so that we lo.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Sept 1, 2009 10:06:49 GMT -5
Updated vote count:
Current Votes: texcat (3): MiteyMouse, hockeyguy8435, BillMC BillMC(1): texcat
Currently Not Voting: Special Ed
As of now, texcat will be lynched at Dusk.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Sept 1, 2009 14:50:27 GMT -5
Dusk will come a bit late, since I got something to do at that point, but Day still ends at 3.
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Post by texcat on Sept 1, 2009 14:55:44 GMT -5
A very temporary reprieve for the prisoner. Alas, if it were a permanent reprieve.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Sept 1, 2009 15:17:46 GMT -5
As sun slowly sinks towards the horizon, we find our two village cops sitting in the back room of the donut shop. The door opens, and Texcat, the last town miller, enters with an empty flour sack.
"Trouble at mill," states Texcat.
"Oh no - what kind of trouble? No more donuts?" asks HockeyGuy.
"One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treadle"
"Pardon?" asks Ed.
"One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treadle."
"I don't understand what you're saying. Do we have donut shortage!? " exclaims HockeyGuy.
"One of the cross beams has gone out askew on the treadle."
"What on earth does that mean?" responds Ed, "I can't find it in wikipedia."
"*I* don't know - Mr Frood just told me to come in here and say that there was trouble at t' mill, that's all - I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition."
The door explodes inwards, splattering Texcat against the wall.
Bill and Mitey charge in.
"NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!" proclaims Bill, "Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise...I'll come in again."
"Don't bother" interrupts Mitey, "You may have been expecting the Spanish Inquisition - but we're the Monty Python Mafia - and you're all going to die!!! MUahh ha ha ha!!"
Ed leaps to his feet, unfortunately slipping on the bloody goo that was once Texcat. He lands heavily on his head with a loud CRACK.
"Can't we just have peace?" pleads HockeyGuy.
"What do you think?"
Texcat, Town Miller; Special Ed, Town Cop; and HockeyGuy, Town Cop are all dead.[/b]
BillMC, Mafia Godfather and MiteyMouse, Mafia Goon win!
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