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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 15:02:25 GMT -5
Post by Hawkmod on Aug 20, 2009 15:02:25 GMT -5
It was a quiet night. The shock of learning that the Rebel Leader wanted to end the Rebellion seemed to take the wind out of everyone's sails. It was only shortly before the official time of Sunrise when people began to drift into the plaza for the new day's debate.
One, however, did not drift. He came running, his chest heaving like a bellows to draw air into his lungs. His eyes were wide open, like a man who had gone beyond scared into mortal terror. As he ran, he clutched his blood-caked left arm with his right, to support the left arm which had the broken-off shaft of an arrow sticking out. He was more interested in where he'd been than where he was going, looking over his shoulder often.
He saw the gathering crowd, and veered towards them. "Help," he gasped. "He's after me." This proved to be his last mistake. Even as some of the people turned toward him, a figure in full battledress, the head covered with a balaclava, emerged into the plaza. The figure carried a recurved bow of the kind used by ancient warriors, with an arrow already nocked.
Stopping, the figure raised the bow, took aim and fired, taking Captain Pinkies full in the back and sending him face-down to the ground. Those nearest heard his last breath as it rattled in his throat.
The figure with the bow raised both hands above their head. "Yes!" came a cry in a strangely familiar voice. Even as the figure exulted, though, there was a flicker. A .. person ... covered in black from head to toe stepped out of the shadows and threw something, with a snappy wrist action. Two glittery objects flew through the air, striking the uniformed figure full in the throat. With a gurgling sigh, the figure collapsed on the ground. The figure in black stepped back into the morning shadows, disappearing from sight.
It took a couple of minutes for anyone to approach the figure. A hand reached out, pulled at the balaclava, and lifted it off to reveal the dead face of Hockey Monkey.
Captain Pinkies, Establishment vanilla, has shuffled off this mortal coil. Hockey Monkey, Minister of War, an Establishment Vigilante has met an unexpected death.
Day ends at 4:00 pm EST on Tuesday, August 25th
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 17:56:33 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 20, 2009 17:56:33 GMT -5
Lovely. Vote Hockeyguy [/color]
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 19:37:48 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 20, 2009 19:37:48 GMT -5
timing timing timing.
shit, came in a day late and a dollar short for poor bill.
he was right, of course. if peacekeepers want to win then there needs to be a day/night cycle with no deaths.
there are peacekeepers in all factions. there are even folks that don't know that they are peacekeepers but will win under the scenario above.
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 19:57:47 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 20, 2009 19:57:47 GMT -5
so, for sure.
vote hockeyguy
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 20:02:32 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 20, 2009 20:02:32 GMT -5
I know this is a little late to be ideal but though I was leaning towards Hockeyguy's attack on Bill prior to Bill's claim. After that case completely flipped for me, but it was gradual. I got my clarification on conjecture regarding the number of rebels left, and I do think it is low and that Hockeyguy's numbers were inflated. It was that statement alone that tipped the scales and I should have voted for Hockeyguy at that point.
In fact, I think things might be in a battle to the death between the Peacekeepers and the Rebels and the Establishment who remain alive with me are just along for the ultimately unfulfilling ride. If we aren't there yet, we are mighty close.
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 20:05:17 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 20, 2009 20:05:17 GMT -5
Let me try that again it makes no sense on re-read
I know this is a little late to be ideal but though I was leaning towards Hockeyguy's attack on Bill prior to Bill's claim, after that case completely flipped for me to "pro-Bill" and "anti-HG" but it was gradual. I got my clarification in on time with respect to conjecture on the number of rebels left, and I do think it is low and that Hockeyguy's numbers were inflated. It was that statement alone that tipped the scales and I should have voted for Hockeyguy right away at that point, but I didn't get a chance to come in and make my vote and case. I don't know that I would've succeeded in talking Bill out of the noose though.
I think things might be in a battle to the death between the Peacekeepers and the Rebels and the Establishment who remain alive with me are just along for the ultimately unfulfilling ride. If we aren't there yet, we are mighty close.
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 20:33:12 GMT -5
Post by hockeyguy8435 on Aug 20, 2009 20:33:12 GMT -5
So, because I said there were 3-4 rebels remaining, versus two Rebels, that's what makes you suspect me? Alright. I can't really argue that point, as it's mere speculation on both our parts, but whatever.
As for peeker, it's apparent his vote is in retaliation for me voting for Bill. As he admitted to being a PK, thus he wants me, anti-peace, out of the game, and hopes the Rebel numbers are low. Fine.
My vote is up in the air.
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 20:34:31 GMT -5
Post by hockeyguy8435 on Aug 20, 2009 20:34:31 GMT -5
And maybe I should specify why my vote is up in the air. I was going to come into this Day voting for Pinkies, but he's dead at the hands of the vig. So now I need to look elsewhere.
If I do survive toDay though, I'll pick up where HM left off, assuming the game doesn't end in a mislynch.
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Day 6
Aug 20, 2009 22:07:20 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 20, 2009 22:07:20 GMT -5
And speaking for myself only, Bill'ss posts contain some fairly strong testimony with respect to you, hockeyguy, including things like you having access to the rebel boards and being quote close to referring to you as a liar in so many words, if memory serves. Time to go see what all Bill left for us wth respect to you.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 9:35:51 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 21, 2009 9:35:51 GMT -5
Well I have some thoughts on the situation, but I currently have a question in to our illustrious mod that I would like to have answered before I say anything. So as soon as I hear from him, you guys will hear from me.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 12:05:58 GMT -5
Post by hockeyguy8435 on Aug 21, 2009 12:05:58 GMT -5
I understand the want to believe some of what Bill said, as his claim was proven true upon his exit from the game.
The fact of the matter is that he was an admitted traitor to the Rebels and a Peacekeeper. He's been lying all game to all sides. To the Rebels on their board, and to us in the game thread. The fact that you now want to take something he said as true, because he made a desperate claim to try and save himself. Not to mention the attack on me as I was the one pushing his exit. The main thesis of his case on me is that I too am a Rebel traitor with access to the Rebel board. If that was indeed the case, why would I then be spared by them at Night?
Bill was grasping at anything to bring me down with him because I outed him, and it would have hit two birds with one stone as I'm anti-peace, and I got him lynched.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 13:39:00 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 21, 2009 13:39:00 GMT -5
OK I've gotten my clarification from the mod.
Vote: hockeyguy
I saw the link that Bill posted before it was removed. I understand that it's possible to fake that sort of thing, but I don't believe for a second that it actually was. It was, quite clearly, you HG, posting on the Rebel board. Combined with the fact that Bill was exactly what he claimed to be, I'm 100% sure you're a Rebel.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 17:19:58 GMT -5
Post by hockeyguy8435 on Aug 21, 2009 17:19:58 GMT -5
Well I can't comment on what Bill posted in his "link" as I didn't see it before it was removed.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 17:50:13 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 21, 2009 17:50:13 GMT -5
Archangel: I'm curious as to what you plan on doing with respect to Hockeyguy now that the prior object of your incarceratory affections is now dead and he is allegedly her backup.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 17:51:25 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 21, 2009 17:51:25 GMT -5
My understanding of the living players:
Cookies Hockeyguy Pollux Mister Blockey Peeker Nanook Archangel Pumpjack dfrntbreign
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 20:57:10 GMT -5
Post by pumpjack on Aug 21, 2009 20:57:10 GMT -5
so, for sure. vote hockeyguyBefore the hammer(?) comes down, I've got to ask... Peeker, as a peacekeeper, why wouldn't you vote NO LYNCH? It's not how I'll vote, but are peacekeepers pro-town or pro-peace? If you thought there was only one rebel left, would you vote against lynching them to broker a peace?
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:07:31 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 21, 2009 21:07:31 GMT -5
so, for sure. vote hockeyguyBefore the hammer(?) comes down, I've got to ask... Peeker, as a peacekeeper, why wouldn't you vote NO LYNCH? It's not how I'll vote, but are peacekeepers pro-town or pro-peace? If you thought there was only one rebel left, would you vote against lynching them to broker a peace? i am concerned that regardless hockeyguy will still get a nk in. in which case non peacemakers are that much closer to winning. i have every reason to believe that he is scum and don't know how their whole kill selection works. if there were some way to be somewhat assured that he would get outvoted or unable to act unilatterally sure i'll go for a no lynch. if not i'd rather get him out of the way go through a no nk tonight and then no lynch tomorrow. btw, i do know that ed was a peacenik even though in death no mention of this is made.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:15:45 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 21, 2009 21:15:45 GMT -5
Does color of font of role/title/name provided upon death flip correlate at all (and consistently) to win condition? Has all information relevant to the game been consistently provided upon death flip?
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:16:19 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 21, 2009 21:16:19 GMT -5
damn trailing slash. every damn time
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:20:52 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 21, 2009 21:20:52 GMT -5
and i do know that there are at least one more identified (to me) peacenik alive.
and i do believe that bill was dead on about traditional foe elimination isn't going to hack it in this game. at this point you are either going to go for a peace win or a non peace win. feel free to get metagamey all over that sucker.
and if it matters, i am kenith, the prime minister of quantom.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:23:20 GMT -5
Post by pumpjack on Aug 21, 2009 21:23:20 GMT -5
How do you know Ed was a peacenik? Or do you mean an establishment with the 'threat' pm.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:26:01 GMT -5
Post by pumpjack on Aug 21, 2009 21:26:01 GMT -5
Isn't traditional foe elimination a non peace win?
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:42:19 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 21, 2009 21:42:19 GMT -5
How do you know Ed was a peacenik? Or do you mean an establishment with the 'threat' pm. maybe peacenik is the wrong term. ed could win under a peaceful condition. at least that is what hawk told me. i don't know if he even knew.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:43:37 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 21, 2009 21:43:37 GMT -5
Isn't traditional foe elimination a non peace win? making sure they are dead is traditional. threat elimination may mean something different altogether. check out useless vanilla, fcs.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:43:48 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 21, 2009 21:43:48 GMT -5
The answers to one of my above questions can already be deduced. HockeyMonkey specifically stated that her win condition was "all rebels dead", yet she was revealed in blue font as Establishment.
So I could have potentially shared a win with HockeyMonkey or perhaps the Peacekeepers, but not both. Which makes me inclined to completely ignore the Mod's choice of font completely in all death reveals.
If the Peacekeepers are of sufficient number to pull off a peaceful accord, I'm willing to work with them towards that end. Right now, allegedly-honest Peacekeeper Peeker is willing to kill HockeyGuy in the quest for that peace, and that is where my vote lies. If anyone else wishes to come forward as a Peacekeeper who is not willing to kill HockeyGuy, let's hear it.
I've already stated my views on what I think the Establishment's chances of a non-peaceful win are: slim to none. No way we can have experienced so many deaths and still pull it off. The only reasonable route I can see for any Establishment win is some sort of shared Peacekeeper win.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:48:53 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 21, 2009 21:48:53 GMT -5
and cookie just so i am clear. i want to lynch hockey because i don't see how to keep him from killing. for peacers to win they have to go through a Night/Day cycle without a kill. so a no lynch during the day followed by a nk just puts the peacers back to square one with one more dead and non peacers closer to winning.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:56:19 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Aug 21, 2009 21:56:19 GMT -5
and i don't know if any other peacers know that they are peacers.
first night i looked at mhaye although to be honest my pm went to hawkmod so i didn't get formal confirmation.
i was right about ed night two.
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 21:57:35 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Aug 21, 2009 21:57:35 GMT -5
Understood. And I still don't trust Archangel's alignment at all, but I would like to hear from her with respect to potentially jailing HockeyGuy. Or is this a mandatory hiatus of her alleged powers based on what she can/can't do when?
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 22:28:36 GMT -5
Post by pumpjack on Aug 21, 2009 22:28:36 GMT -5
Let me try that again it makes no sense on re-read I know this is a little late to be ideal but though I was leaning towards Hockeyguy's attack on Bill prior to Bill's claim, after that case completely flipped for me to "pro-Bill" and "anti-HG" but it was gradual. I got my clarification in on time with respect to conjecture on the number of rebels left, and I do think it is low and that Hockeyguy's numbers were inflated. <snip> <snip> I've already stated my views on what I think the Establishment's chances of a non-peaceful win are: slim to none. No way we can have experienced so many deaths and still pull it off. The only reasonable route I can see for any Establishment win is some sort of shared Peacekeeper win. Cookies, I don't understand. How you could change your mind on Bill based on HockeyGuy's estimation of scum left in the game and think we don't have a chance even with HockeyGuy's lynch?
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Day 6
Aug 21, 2009 22:48:21 GMT -5
Post by pumpjack on Aug 21, 2009 22:48:21 GMT -5
Isn't traditional foe elimination a non peace win? making sure they are dead is traditional. threat elimination may mean something different altogether. check out useless vanilla, fcs. Are you saying we may have to take out pro-war town?
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