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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 20:35:37 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Sept 13, 2009 20:35:37 GMT -5
and fuck, even cookies should be voted for fishing like a mofo even if it might be town oriented. otie dotie. ok, did i piss enough folks off. is that substantive enough for you, cookies? How exactly is Cookies Fishin?
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Day Two
Sept 13, 2009 21:47:14 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Sept 13, 2009 21:47:14 GMT -5
sister should be voted for her remark. that's a fuck up even if she is town. cias should be chastised for goodness sake. holy crud we hope for cross kills but we can't be sure but yet you ask for more as if you know. lukers should be voted because this game moves and twists quick so laying low is being non town oriented. so parzival let's see what happens when you get bolded. buff should be voted because she espouses a really bad strategy regarding votes and accountability (as well as that booger eating blockey) hey, vig. paying attention. and fuck, even cookies should be voted for fishing like a mofo even if it might be town oriented. otie dotie. ok, did i piss enough folks off. is that substantive enough for you, cookies? So, you can throw endless smudges about, and that's okay, but if I want to vote multiple times and actually get my suspicions down on record, that's bad? Vote: peeker And you can bet that, if at any point more than one person I'm voting for is facing a stretching, I'm going to unvote one or the other so that my votes don't cancel each other out (to address a point peeker has made previously).
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Day Two
Sept 14, 2009 9:45:34 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Sept 14, 2009 9:45:34 GMT -5
Yay, another Day where I come back online from a weekend off and there is a sure thing ready to be voted for.
Vote: Mr. Blocky
I need to see what I think about the other stuff going on toDay still. Back in a bit.
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Day Two
Sept 14, 2009 12:44:18 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 14, 2009 12:44:18 GMT -5
Well, obviously I'm going to Vote: Undead Blockey .
I am suspicious of CIaS for his displayed crosskills certainty. I guess I might as well Vote: CIaS to show how much I am suspicious.
I can't wait until we get some freaking reveals up in this bitch!
--FCOD
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Day Two
Sept 14, 2009 12:54:45 GMT -5
Post by PrecambrianMollusc on Sept 14, 2009 12:54:45 GMT -5
vote Mr Blocky
Reason - pedescribe indicated he knew Blockies alignment which Blocky did not deny. Most people have voted so it would indicate that there are no dissenting voices as to Pedescribes claim so I am inclined to believe him. Either that or him/her/those who might object see no risk in letting a self confessed undead go to the gallows and will deal with Pedescribe later (if he is not who he indicates he is).
I suppose there are other possibilities - Pedescribe could be a Scum investigator or the member of the scum team assigned to pull a stunt, and they really know that Blocky is an undead and want him lynched. By reporting the way they did they may also be hoping to draw out a town investigator role and bump them off over night. Possible I suppose.
Could be a set up - Pedescribe and Blocky are on the same team and are trying to trigger a bomb/recruitment. Also possible but then both would have to be wolf or cabal to coordinate. I guess they could be trying to trigger a recruitment (limited recruitment a possibility from the intro - my guess would be that lies with the Undead due to their supposed limited numbers). I can't see cabal risking exposing more members - if Boozy was a cabal, and given that our coroner has not spoken up I doubt there is anything surprising in boozys alignment. Unless either Ed or Meeko was the Coroner, which would sort of suck.
No doubt more fantastical possibilities are out there, although for me simple is good, prescribe telling truth , Blocky nasty undead, with caveat of knowing Pedescribe doesn't become confirmed until dead or backed up.
If blocky does turn up not of the undead variety then I guess we string up Pedescribe.
Regarding last nights kills , all I can think of is some scum faction decided that the ed and meeko show noise was getting in the way of them spotting town / other scum factions and decided to get some clarity.
In other news, trying to eat cheese and crackers with a Labrador giving you laser targeted puppy dog eyes is really bloody hard.
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Day Two
Sept 14, 2009 20:00:17 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Sept 14, 2009 20:00:17 GMT -5
Not much to say about the DAYs events.... pretty obvious choice here...
Vote: MISTER BLOCKEY
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Sept 14, 2009 20:00:27 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Sept 14, 2009 20:00:27 GMT -5
I am suspicious of CIaS for his displayed crosskills certainty. I guess I might as well Vote: CIaS [/color] to show how much I am suspicious.[/quote] I am rather curious about the crosskills remark as well. I don't remember if CiaS ever explained himself, either. Did he?
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Day Two
Sept 14, 2009 22:41:44 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 14, 2009 22:41:44 GMT -5
The post: Ok, so based of previous experience of these games lets throw out the following. 1. Mark me down as having last Nights kills were 2 x Vampire + 1 Wolf, which is balanced fine for this size of game (at least it was last time). 2. Crosskills: More please scum. Yes, the only way the town can win is if the scum night crosskill and generally screw each other over. The closest thing we have to a defense: And I pointed out that we didn't know that yet, and CIAS said: So [ color=red]unvote peeker[/color][/b] [ color=blue]vote CatInASuit[/color][/b] Because as I've already said, I think it's too much to assume that there was a cross-kill last night until we know more.[/quote] Perhaps you would like to explain how I would know that there were cross-kills last Night. Personally I don't know, but I also look forward to you telling me why having Cross-kills from the scum is a bad thing. Oh yeah, it was really bad phrasing. Almost scum like. Wow, a throw away vote with no justification. Care to explain what your thoughts are as to why you placed that vote? Hmm, fair enough. I'm sure we will find out in due course. vote Mr. Blockeyand here it is... Well that's really really really really annoying In an open setup too *hugs his secret power* that is really bloody annoying go ahead and lynch me though If he does have a secret power, it is definitely best to vote for lynch now. [/quote] The post that is bringing him heat begins with a disclaimer that he's basing his statements on previous games, a fact that has been omitted from the cases being made against him. I don't read it as much of a PIS slip but ymmv.
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Day Two
Sept 14, 2009 22:46:07 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 14, 2009 22:46:07 GMT -5
Sorry, missed a couple of the multi-quotes in that second quote.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 2:12:35 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Sept 15, 2009 2:12:35 GMT -5
The post that is bringing him heat begins with a disclaimer that he's basing his statements on previous games, a fact that has been omitted from the cases being made against him. Nor has he used it in his defense.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 4:37:06 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Sept 15, 2009 4:37:06 GMT -5
Nor has he used it in his defense. No, I haven't because it's interesting to see who bites and it least it's more conversation than just lynching mr. blockey A lot of this is based off my experience playing in the last two games. It's the one game where everyone plays at being town, without trying to say what kind of townie they are. I have no idea if we have had scum cross kills or not. However, I do know that if there are no scum cross kills, the town will lose the game. THAT IS GUARANTEED!! Each side has a 25% chance to win. If all the targets successfully hit last Night were town, we are seriously stuffed already. Imagine the same if the only targets hit last night were the Cabal. They could be four down and possibly out of the game for all we know, making it a three way battle. That's right more cross kills please, because the odds that last Night included one scum cross kill are very high. So, as a townie without a clue, I am asking all the scum out there to do their level best and kill each other off. ;D Oh and another option for pedescribe (smudge, smudge), he could be a Wolf whose pack attacked a vampire Mr Blockey last Night and lost a wolf. Who knows - well pedescribe does.
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Sept 15, 2009 6:05:31 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 15, 2009 6:05:31 GMT -5
The post that is bringing him heat begins with a disclaimer that he's basing his statements on previous games, a fact that has been omitted from the cases being made against him. Nor has he used it in his defense. He did mention it directly after his initial got challenged (but indeed he didn't repeat it after he got voted for his initial post): With 25 players, I still think 1 wolf + 1 vampire is not enough and given the previous games if a Remorseful Vig* is killing on Night 1, they need their heads examined. No I still think its 2 vamps + a furry. Although I can totally see Meeko or special ed killing each other as vigilante. I have no idea if we have had scum cross kills or not. However, I do know that if there are no scum cross kills, the town will lose the game. THAT IS GUARANTEED!! Technically, you could have no cross kills with lots of protects/blocks and town still as a winner I think. Oh and another option for pedescribe (smudge, smudge), he could be a Wolf whose pack attacked a vampire Mr Blockey last Night and lost a wolf. Who knows - well pedescribe does. Interesting, taken from the rules: You are a Vampire, a member of the Undead. Each Night you may kill one player. If the target is a Vicar, your attack will fail, but you will not know why. Vampires are immune to being killed at Night, except by a Vigilante. Anyone else who attempts to kill you at Night will instead be killed; you will know if this happens. Vampires are immune to a Detective's investigative power. So if one of the dead flips Wolf and Blockey flips Vampire it could mean pedescribe is Wolf, but the odds for a normal dead Wolf pretty high as well. With six Wolves and two non-Wolf kills the chance is one in two that at least one Wolf died (if I get my statistics right here). So definitely not a reason to vote him, let alone lynch which could force a Witch to claim and back him up.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 9:38:40 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Sept 15, 2009 9:38:40 GMT -5
I don't think that's paticualarly likely. Note that it says "You will know if this happens." If I was Blockey, and I knew I had killed a Wolf last Night, I would totally be claiming that, if for no other reason than to sow chaos. But he didn't say anything of the sort. I think we can safely bet on ped being a Town element of some sort.
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Sept 15, 2009 10:02:09 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Sept 15, 2009 10:02:09 GMT -5
We've already got a good target for today on the block, but I thought this might be a useful tidbit to share before we head into the Nighttime:
Special Ed was trying to kill someone last night.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 10:31:44 GMT -5
Post by hockeyguy8435 on Sept 15, 2009 10:31:44 GMT -5
Trying and failed? Or you don't know?
If he tried and succeeded I think it's safe to assume he targeted Meeko. It would make perfect sense considering the spat they got into on Day One.
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Sept 15, 2009 11:19:25 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Sept 15, 2009 11:19:25 GMT -5
We've already got a good target for today on the block, but I thought this might be a useful tidbit to share before we head into the Nighttime: Special Ed was trying to kill someone last night. Are you saying you're cabal?
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Sept 15, 2009 11:28:47 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Sept 15, 2009 11:28:47 GMT -5
We've already got a good target for today on the block, but I thought this might be a useful tidbit to share before we head into the Nighttime: Special Ed was trying to kill someone last night. Are you saying you're cabal? Oh. He said "a good target for today on the block"...I thought he meant, like, roleblocking. Okay. Nevermind.
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Sept 15, 2009 12:58:16 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Sept 15, 2009 12:58:16 GMT -5
Special Ed was trying to kill someone last night. (reads roles) (reads roles again) (puts on paranoia goggles) "Someone"? You mean YOU, right? Because the only person who could know that information is the Magician or the Scotsman, and only if someone took a shot at him. Unless somebody has a secret power somewhere, "Watcher/Tracker" is not a role in this game. You want to explain yourself a bit more there, Parzival? (Note, if it turns out Parzival is telling the truth, I have no problem putting a vote on Special Ed as well. Given the roles available, chances are Special Ed is not town.)
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 13:24:12 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 15, 2009 13:24:12 GMT -5
Special Ed was trying to kill someone last night. (reads roles) (reads roles again) (puts on paranoia goggles) "Someone"? You mean YOU, right? Because the only person who could know that information is the Magician or the Scotsman, and only if someone took a shot at him. Unless somebody has a secret power somewhere, "Watcher/Tracker" is not a role in this game. You want to explain yourself a bit more there, Parzival? (Note, if it turns out Parzival is telling the truth, I have no problem putting a vote on Special Ed as well. Given the roles available, chances are Special Ed is not town.) blink ed's dead last i checked. blink
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Sept 15, 2009 13:28:38 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 15, 2009 13:28:38 GMT -5
Note, if it turns out Parzival is telling the truth, I have no problem putting a vote on Special Ed as well. Given the roles available, chances are Special Ed is not town. I guess we'll have to see if a Witchdoctor enchanted him to be raised from the dead before he can be lynched again. A Scotsman would be publicly announced. A Detective would also be able to find it out a killer, but I think they would get the result after Dusk. He could be a Vampire who was attacked or a Wolf team mate of ed, but those don't seems as likely. So I guess it's a Magician claim from Parzival. Since special ed is dead the information is not directly useful, but if he's a Magician then he's now vanilla town. It does narrow the pool for others to hide. Why didn't he tell who he redirected to? I guess if that player didn't die then it was probably a self-protecting Witch who is better hidden.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 13:29:16 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 15, 2009 13:29:16 GMT -5
ok, now i may not be the quickest rock in the box.
but, did i just get whooshed or did i miss something kind of important like.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 13:33:55 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Sept 15, 2009 13:33:55 GMT -5
And, if Parzival is a MagicianWhoIsNowVanilla, not claiming fully may risk protection being spent on him instead of someone who still has a power payload.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 13:43:16 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 15, 2009 13:43:16 GMT -5
Peeker - I'm with you.
Parzival is claiming Ed had a killing role; Death by Iroby is suggesting that a reading of the rules means that Parzival has to be either a Scotsman or a Magician, and Cookies' and Natlaw's running theory is that Parzival would have to be a Magician and now be powerless, on the theory that a Scotsman would be revealed by the mod.
I think.
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Sept 15, 2009 13:55:32 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Sept 15, 2009 13:55:32 GMT -5
...therefor you are?
But you got it right about what I meant to say and how I read the other posts, so I'm whooshed by what you two are whooshed about?
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 14:17:51 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Sept 15, 2009 14:17:51 GMT -5
Less than 24 hours left in the Day. Please PM me if you have a Day power you wish to use.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 14:20:08 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Sept 15, 2009 14:20:08 GMT -5
well i'm whooshed by a lot of things but it's the threatened vote on ed based on if parzival is telling the truth that has me real puzzled. i thought he (ed) was dead. so unless i totally missed something about him coming back or not really being dead i am a tad bit perplexed about that threat (? for lack of a better word).
now i know i've been giving buff a hard time how multiple votes, to me, lend themselves to less rather than more accountability. but voting for dead folks. now c'mon are you all fucking with me or are we just carrying this multiple votes equals greater accountability to the extreme.
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Sept 15, 2009 14:45:17 GMT -5
Post by Death By Irony on Sept 15, 2009 14:45:17 GMT -5
Yeah, it's been a while since I read Page 1. Didn't notice that Special Ed is now an ex-Ed. Still doesn't explain how Parzival claims to know specifically that Special Ed tried to kill someone.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 15:08:47 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 15, 2009 15:08:47 GMT -5
No, I are not. Apparently, I'm less confused than I thought. Which is good. Unusual, but good. And I don't know how Parzival knows what Parzival is claiming to know; the Magician/Scotsman theory works as well as any barring some secret power.
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Day Two
Sept 15, 2009 15:33:00 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Sept 15, 2009 15:33:00 GMT -5
Assuming Parzival isn't lying, there can be only three scenarios:
1) He could be a Magician who is now basically vanilla. - The most likely scenario, I think. 2) He could be a Vampire, but only if Ed is a Wolf or another Vampire. - Unlikely. I can't think of a motivation. 3) He is some other role that has a secret power that told him. - More likely than 2 but not as likely as 1.
Parzival can't be a Scotsman, as it would have been revealed to us. Dunno what to make of it, since it doesn't really mean anything to us that Ed tried to kill someone. He's already dead, so we can't accuse him of anything.
--FCOD
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Sept 15, 2009 15:36:50 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Sept 15, 2009 15:36:50 GMT -5
I can't provide anything more that would be useful concerning this. I don't see a point in a full claim yet. I'll add that I can infer that Spec Ed failed in his attempt, though that's just a best guess. Yes, this game is a bit odd despite being open.
Anyway, I won't be around the rest of today and may likely miss tomorrow. Just thought I'd give something back, since I think it is pertinent to the 'crosskill' debate. Though I'm not quite sure whether Cat is scum or not. Kind of fishy, though.
Presumably the reveal on Ed in the coming days will help out more.
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