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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 29, 2009 17:34:04 GMT -5
I think we're going to have a problem, and that problem is that there are two Witches alive.
While there are two Witches around, there's no reason not to go for the jugular and lynch the killing factions. Only once the Cabal can win is there any reason not to kill Natlaw.
I think you're for the rope, my pseudo-furry friend.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 29, 2009 18:27:55 GMT -5
You had to investigate Pede the Night after he soft claimed. Not sure about Night three yet. I was thinking I would not have needed to; there's no reason to suppose him anything other than Witch. I would have been a bit taken aback with his Seer claim then though. Let's make Pede my Night 2 action. Yeah, it's the only way to explain you not countering him when he claimed seer. He was acting really squirly durring the soft claim, you can play off that. You just didn't believe him.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 29, 2009 18:29:33 GMT -5
We can still get some play out of this wolf gambit, I am just not sure how yet.
Create a little chaos. Also, Bill is the last witch. Woohoo.
Redirect FCoD to him and hope we roll lucky. (I feel like Pede will push to protect himself.)
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 29, 2009 19:01:36 GMT -5
We can still get some play out of this wolf gambit, I am just not sure how yet. Create a little chaos. Also, Bill is the last witch. Woohoo. Redirect FCoD to him and hope we roll lucky. (I feel like Pede will push to protect himself.) If we can keep Natlaw alive, it's possible Nanook could decide to kill him. So maybe we redirect one to Pede, one to Bill and roleblock Sister Coyote to make sure they don't get the dead Witch back. Mind you, I wouldn't put it past Pede to lie about the identity of the last Witch, so before we commit ourselfes, let's pause and think after Nightfall.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Sept 29, 2009 22:24:23 GMT -5
Even with NatLaw getting lynched, you guys are doing fantastic. Wish I could be more help, but I don't really know what to say, other than I'm guessing it's more likely that Bill gets the protect tonight than pede.
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 5:26:33 GMT -5
I think we're going to have a problem, and that problem is that there are two Witches alive. While there are two Witches around, there's no reason not to go for the jugular and lynch the killing factions. Only once the Cabal can win is there any reason not to kill Natlaw. I think you're for the rope, my pseudo-furry friend. I thinking of the following gambit: public negotiate a deal with the Vampire: we wolves kill BillMC (I'm not the last or imply secret power) and the vampire pedescribe kills if they lynch me Today. This means Tomorrow only the Wolves and Vampire prevent a Cabal win -> town must lynch Cabal, not me. Mmm, too bad Kat! claimed Vampire (I bet she just might be one of two remaining Wolves).
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 5:45:39 GMT -5
We should have gambled on a free masons claim.
Cookies might still claim Coroner. That leaves Seer or Scotsman for MHaye, unless we want to go with a double claim. How about a second Warlock claim (although it is too confirmable when no-one dies - NAF has to guess who the witches protect or be outed (unlikely Cabal will block a Warlock at this point). Announcing beforehand to might affect the protect so could be useful.
I'd prefer a not easily validated claim for MHaye, although that which get him killed anyway as 'unconfirmed'. Perhaps decide to counter-claim a Wolf false claim?
Kat! might be Wolf false claiming Vampire (if there are two wolves). FCoD most certainly is Wolf and might be the last - we need his kill though, so better not counter claim him.
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 5:51:45 GMT -5
If Kat! works with us (if she doesn't she gets lynched Tomorrow), we have a dead Witch. Meaning we block the Witch doctor to keep them dead. If Kat! gets lynched, let's hope FCoD targets my declared Wolf target* and we redirect Nanook on the other (hoping he won't decide not to kill which would be the smart move). I was thinking of redirect DBI Today to frame her with a false result Tomorrow, but I don't think we can spare it. *) I'll repeat it clearly before my lynch as: Remember: The Wolves kill BillMc, The Undead kill pedescribe!
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 6:04:22 GMT -5
Just so I get the time zones right - it's now (see post time stamp) about 8 hours till Dusk right?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 8:15:22 GMT -5
I think I can see how we can benefit from this.
Natlaw is posing as The Last Wolf, the death of whom would eliminate a killing faction. In the interim, Kat's claimed Vampire. Do you not thnk this will result in Nanook coming out to kill Tonight, thus finishing the game?
NAF redirect Kat to Pedescribe. I redirect Nanook to Bill.
(Or I can redirect Kat and NAF act on Nanook.)
Roleblock SisterCoyote
Result : a dead Witch N4 that people will expect to come back at the dawn of D6, while Kat (probably) gets lynched. Imagine Town chagrin when the Dawn comes and the dead Witch doesn't come back.
We then publically search for Cabal, and settle on whoever we think the Wolf is.
Think that's going to work?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 8:16:35 GMT -5
Just so I get the time zones right - it's now (see post time stamp) about 8 hours till Dusk right? Pacific is 8 hours behind BST, therefore 9 hours behind your time. At the time of your post it was just less than 8 hours to go.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 9:01:36 GMT -5
I think I can see how we can benefit from this. Natlaw is posing as The Last Wolf, the death of whom would eliminate a killing faction. In the interim, Kat's claimed Vampire. Do you not thnk this will result in Nanook coming out to kill Tonight, thus finishing the game? NAF redirect Kat to Pedescribe. I redirect Nanook to Bill. (Or I can redirect Kat and NAF act on Nanook.) Roleblock SisterCoyote Result : a dead Witch N4 that people will expect to come back at the dawn of D6, while Kat (probably) gets lynched. Imagine Town chagrin when the Dawn comes and the dead Witch doesn't come back. We then publically search for Cabal, and settle on whoever we think the Wolf is. Think that's going to work? I think that's fucking brilliant.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 9:19:02 GMT -5
FCoD claims Mason.
I don't think Cookies has claimed yet. It'll be interesting to see what happens when she does.
He's not had much luck with his targets (if he''s telling the truth) is he?
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 9:37:24 GMT -5
Would there really be only one Mason (he claims neither you or Cookies are one and no one else has)?
You're plan looks good, although a secret power might prevent it (mass block? Except secret powers including our redirects typically cannot be blocked). Nanook deciding not to kill might be a problem and we won't have any redirects left afterward.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 9:43:29 GMT -5
if you were the last Wolf, that would make Kat the last killer. Eliminate Kat and the game is over aat Dawn.
As for Masons, the only candidates left are DarkCookies, CIAS, Idle Thoughts and Julie. It's entirely possible that two Masons can be killed on one Night - see the death of the Cabal in C1, when CIAS and HazelNutCoffee ripped the throatss out of two separate Cabalists on Night 3, the third having already been lynched.
I'm probably going to hold a claim until 6pm, to give DarkCookies a chance to catch up.
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 9:51:55 GMT -5
I forgot the unknown dead and I see have Nanook killing the vampire and me being the last Wolf would be a town win, but it only works if Kat doesn't kill a Witch (50% chance). Prudent play (which I think Nanook will do is just not to kill and lynch Kat! Tomorrow if a Witch survives).
I read this a trying to handshake with Cookies but failing, but it is a bit ambiguous. But if FCoD is free-mason, who are the Wolves?
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 10:02:26 GMT -5
I'm considering to taunt pede that I'm not the last Wolf, but I don't think it's a good idea as the lynch might switch to Kat!, we need her killing power (if truthful).
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 10:49:31 GMT -5
Please don't suggest (again) that you're not the last Wolf; you've already explicitly said that you are. Don't confirm you're a liar. They might guess you're lying about being any sort of killer and switch to Kat.
That would wreck our chances.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 11:12:54 GMT -5
So, we will kill a cabalist toNight with our redirects. Then we need to make the case that there are no masons in the game and that FCoD is likely cabal as well.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 11:13:21 GMT -5
Pedescribe's plan to have Nanook hit one of the three of us works just as well as Nanook going after Kat. So long as he doesn't sit on his hands.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 11:19:20 GMT -5
Pedescribe's plan to have Nanook hit one of the three of us works just as well as Nanook going after Kat. So long as he doesn't sit on his hands. Agreed. As long as we get Nanook shooting toNight we are in good shape. He has a target rich environment and a strong incentive to use his power. It will be a close thing, but I think we can pull this out.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 11:20:18 GMT -5
Let's make sure we are on the same page. I redirect Nanook onto Pede you redirect Kat onto Bill. Sound good?
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 11:48:24 GMT -5
So, my best guess at this point is that FCoD and cookies are both wolves. That makes for a lot of wolves in the game, but it also explains FCoD's last couple of posts (which have been odd) and the fact that FCoD is clearly lying about being a freemason.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 12:14:53 GMT -5
Let's make sure we are on the same page. I redirect Nanook onto Pede you redirect Kat onto Bill. Sound good? That's fine by me. This is the way we do it. And roleblock Sister Coyote, of course. So, my best guess at this point is that FCoD and cookies are both wolves. That makes for a lot of wolves in the game, but it also explains FCoD's last couple of posts (which have been odd) and the fact that FCoD is clearly lying about being a freemason. Last Night, we blocked DarkCookies and redirected FCoD. The block would explain DarkCookies' failed attempt to kill me, but what explains Id;le's death if the Wolf kill was directed at me? FCoD is clearly lying, but what about I know not.
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Post by NAF1138 on Sept 30, 2009 12:23:54 GMT -5
Let's make sure we are on the same page. I redirect Nanook onto Pede you redirect Kat onto Bill. Sound good? That's fine by me. This is the way we do it. And roleblock Sister Coyote, of course. So, my best guess at this point is that FCoD and cookies are both wolves. That makes for a lot of wolves in the game, but it also explains FCoD's last couple of posts (which have been odd) and the fact that FCoD is clearly lying about being a freemason. Last Night, we blocked DarkCookies and redirected FCoD. The block would explain DarkCookies' failed attempt to kill me, but what explains Id;le's death if the Wolf kill was directed at me? FCoD is clearly lying, but what about I know not. I have to think he is a vamp. But I think we can paint him as Cabal, especially with his last series of posts.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 12:37:51 GMT -5
Seer claim. Quick comments?
Claim time, I guess. I'm the last (since Bill leapfrogged me).
I am the Seer.
On Night 1, I checked Storyteller, learning he was a Necromancer. It's always good to know what side he's on, as (when he lasts) he's a strong ally or a potent enemy. I was a bit irked that he died. (Here, I have to point and laugh at Kat. She's not the only Vampire to kill off her own ally though – it's happened twice in three Conspiracy games, hasn't it NAF?)
On Night 2, I investigated Pedescribe, for obvious reasons. Learning he was a Witch didn't surprise me, but it did mean I could confirm him later should he need to claim and say that his covenmates were dead. I did raise my eyebrows a bit over his claim to be the Seer earlier Today, but fortunately he recanted and made a true claim before the differences in results tripped him up and got him lynched.
Night Three I investigated PCM, and found he is indeed the Vicar.
As for who to lynch, I need to digest the most recent posts before voting. Back soon.
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 12:39:48 GMT -5
Looks okay, but quick check on which I'll be attacking Cookies: we have an extra kill last Night: -Cookies blocked -Nanook didn't attack -two dead people
Could you claim vigilante?
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 12:47:21 GMT -5
No, I don't want to claim Vig. I've got to go with what I've got, or claim Scotsman.
I like that point though. It's how I'll come down on my vote. I think. (Subject to change without notice.)
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Post by Natlaw on Sept 30, 2009 12:51:25 GMT -5
Scotsman might simply be tested by Nanook which is actually good since it means we'll redirect him.
Not sure how it will play out later, if he will try to kill you again or will go for Kat! or Cookies.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Sept 30, 2009 12:53:11 GMT -5
Second thoughts.
People will assume that's how I should have survived Cookies' attack, and that I thus sghould be mod-confirmed by now.
I'm going to run with Seer.
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