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Post by Pleonast on Oct 2, 2009 14:06:09 GMT -5
Another Night has ended, full of excitement and terror. Regretfully, well at least to some, SisterCoyote, BillMc, and DeathByIrony are dead. The Census bureau releases details on the previously departed: CatInASuit is a Vigilante. peekercpa is a Witch. bufftabby and paulwhois are Werewolves. You were probably expecting more information, but privacy laws prevent public revelations about the living--Idle Thoughts and julie have come back to life.
Welcome to Day Five. Enjoy your stay.
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Post by The Real FCOD on Oct 2, 2009 14:09:07 GMT -5
Son of a bitch.
hockeyguy, Nanook, why don't you have a seat right over there.
No why don't you just have a seat.
Start talking.
--FCOD
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 2, 2009 14:10:31 GMT -5
Huh, well that was unexpected.
On the plus side, I targeted Bill last Night so unless a vampire targeted him, we should have one fewer killer toMorrow.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 2, 2009 14:11:37 GMT -5
Psst...FCoD, you might have noticed that you seem to be the only freemason in the game...you should sit over there on the talking bench with Nanook and HockeyGuy.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Oct 2, 2009 14:12:10 GMT -5
Right then.
Vote: Nanook Vote: Hockeyguy Vote: Cookies Vote: Kat
Now, would any of you like to explain yourselves, or will we have to yank it out of you?
P.S. From what we know, Pleo didn't include a Coroner. How odd.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Oct 2, 2009 14:12:56 GMT -5
Psst...FCoD, you might have noticed that you seem to be the only freemason in the game...you should sit over there on the talking bench with Nanook and HockeyGuy. It's possible that Pleo simply made him into a pseudo-vanilla by removing any opportunity to use his powers. Unlikely, but possible.
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Post by julie on Oct 2, 2009 14:21:05 GMT -5
It was really cramped in that coffin! *stretches*
Anyway, I'd say we have a lot of duplicate roles. Why? Because I am a Witchdoctor, which is what Sister Coyote claimed.
I was killed by Kat!, by the way.
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Post by Nanook on Oct 2, 2009 14:42:40 GMT -5
I targeted MHaye last Night. The only message I got regarding it was that I failed to kill MHaye. My thought process was pretty straightforward. Either he was lying about his role, in which case hey, bagged another scum. Or he was telling the truth, which would give us a confirmed Town and not trigger my remorsefulness. I don't think I was redirected, since the message I got made it sound more like a block or protect.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 2, 2009 15:58:23 GMT -5
I'm a Vicar.
While, at first, I thought that PCM was lying as I figured it was improbable (although not impossible) there were two Vicars...with the revelation that there were two Necromancers, I now fall more on the side that that might make two Vicars a bit more probable in my head.
I was also told who killed me in my PM. FlyingCowofDoom. Pretty deadly there for a Freemason.
Julie coming back to life scares me since Kat had claimed Vampire before she died. I know that I could have only come back by the Witchdoctor, however, since: A. I'm not a vampire but, more importantly B: Being a Vicar I am impervious to becoming a vampire or vampire attacks at Night.
This game is starting to reek of minor gastardness.
Anyway, why did you kill me FCoD?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 2, 2009 16:08:28 GMT -5
It was really cramped in that coffin! *stretches* Anyway, I'd say we have a lot of duplicate roles. Why? Because I am a Witchdoctor, which is what Sister Coyote claimed. I was killed by Kat!, by the way. I don't believe you. I think what you're trying to do is claim Witchdoctor and hope that everyone will think you raised yourself from the dead, since it's obvious SisterC raised me from the dead, and that you were raised because you were made a vamp by Kat. The fact that Kat claimed yesterDay obviously is the thing that most doesn't help your cause.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 2, 2009 16:23:20 GMT -5
What I think: I think FCoD and one other are Cabalist and that they may have something like a one-time use/power to kill at Night. Added to this is the fact that nobody else, as noted by NAF, has claimed Freemason. So many choices to vote for, on the table...Cookies, Hockey, Julie, FCoD, Nanook, Kat....kinda crappy since, at this point, any wrong order of kill could tilt the tide onto a faction for the win. Of those listed, I'd say that Hockey would be the LEAST suspicious since he, at least, is the only one who didn't claim to be a scummy role...and who didn't also have things happen around them that appear to be the work of scum (I.E Killing me, being killed by a vamp and then coming back, etc)...plus there seems to be a few muliples of roles, after all. I think the Wolves, right now, are down to one ....so IMO, it's much more important to look at the Cabal and/or the Undead before they somehow steal the wins. PS: My history: On Day one I blessed Boozahol. I breadcrumbed it here: psychopathgame.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=game16&action=display&thread=1088&page=2#53929My post was subtly saying he would not be having any brains that night (or ever) since he would not be raised, ever, from the dead. On Day Two I blessed Special Ed. On Day Three I blessed Bufftabby (although by this point, it seemed the Necromancers were both dead).
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Post by hockeyguy8435 on Oct 2, 2009 16:30:40 GMT -5
Son of a bitch. hockeyguy, Nanook, why don't you have a seat right over there. No why don't you just have a seat. Start talking. --FCOD Not much for me to say. I was wrong. Believe me, or not. Lynch me if you don't believe me, but you'd just be wasting the lynch. I targeted Cookies with my role last night hoping someone would try to kill me based on Parvizal turning up Town, but it didn't happen. So, aside from that, anything else you want to hear?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Oct 2, 2009 16:40:47 GMT -5
...Idle Thoughts's revelations are interesting.
Given that I know for certain that both are town, this indicates that role duplication does not necessarily imply scumminess.
So for now, Unvote: Nanook Unvote: hockeyguy
Vote: FCOD
I wish, very very much, that Sis Coyote had told us who she was bringing back from the dead. She said she had no reason to share, but it would be quite relevant now that there are two people risen from the dead.
I can't say that I'm not at least somewhat suspicious of Julie, but if she is indeed a newly-formed vampire, then we can test that by lynching Kat first.
Also, if the non-towns tried to kill both me & BillMC, that would mean they have at least 3 kills at their disposal yet, and probably 4, if Nanook's not a filthy liar.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 2, 2009 16:53:26 GMT -5
...Idle Thoughts's revelations are interesting. Given that I know for certain that both are town, this indicates that role duplication does not necessarily imply scumminess. So for now, Unvote: Nanook [/color] Unvote: hockeyguy [/color] Vote: FCOD [/color] I wish, very very much, that Sis Coyote had told us who she was bringing back from the dead. She said she had no reason to share, but it would be quite relevant now that there are two people risen from the dead. I can't say that I'm not at least somewhat suspicious of Julie, but if she is indeed a newly-formed vampire, then we can test that by lynching Kat first. Also, if the non-towns tried to kill both me & BillMC, that would mean they have at least 3 kills at their disposal yet, and probably 4, if Nanook's not a filthy liar.[/quote] It's not that hard, actually: 1. If SC didn't bring me back, who did? Can't be Buff the Vamp cause she was dead. Can't be Kat the Vamp since Julie says Kat killed her the same night I was killed. Can't be Julie (via her claim of Witch Doctor--supposing she was telling the truth) since the Witchdoctor is a Day submission thing, as far as I know, and so she never had the chance to know I was dead. It has to have been Sister Coyote by default/process of elimination. 2. Julie all of said Kat killed her. Kat all of said she was a vampire. It is commonly known that those made vamps by other vamps are dead for one Day and come back to life a Day later. What is so hard about this? This is like 1 + 1 = 2. 3. Now Julie is trying to say SHE'S a Witchdoctor since that's the ONLY way she (Julie) could have come back from the dead without being a vamp. The only other way is by being vamped, you do know this, right? So for that to happen, the only other possible way she'd have come back to life is if she put the spell on herself, the Night before she died. While I'd say that WAS likely, the fact that she's saying Kat killed her makes it seem more suspicious. IF Julie is a Witchdoctor and if she was killed by Kat, the claimed Vamp, and if she did rise a Day later and yet, is NOT the vamp but raised by her own powers.....I'd say that was a very, huge, extremely large coincidence. I think the easier explanation is just that Julie has now been converted. But I'm for lynching any of the claimed scum as well, toDay.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 2, 2009 16:53:49 GMT -5
Claimed scum or FCOD.
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Post by hockeyguy8435 on Oct 2, 2009 16:57:35 GMT -5
Vote: FCOD
With no other Mason claim, I find it hard to believe you're a Mason. I'd be willing to bet you're Cabal.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Oct 2, 2009 16:58:19 GMT -5
...Idle Thoughts's revelations are interesting. Given that I know for certain that both are town, this indicates that role duplication does not necessarily imply scumminess. So for now, Unvote: Nanook [/color] Unvote: hockeyguy [/color] Vote: FCOD [/color] I wish, very very much, that Sis Coyote had told us who she was bringing back from the dead. She said she had no reason to share, but it would be quite relevant now that there are two people risen from the dead. I can't say that I'm not at least somewhat suspicious of Julie, but if she is indeed a newly-formed vampire, then we can test that by lynching Kat first. Also, if the non-towns tried to kill both me & BillMC, that would mean they have at least 3 kills at their disposal yet, and probably 4, if Nanook's not a filthy liar.[/quote] It's not that hard, actually: 1. If SC didn't bring me back, who did? Can't be Buff the Vamp cause she was dead. Can't be Kat the Vamp since Julie says Kat killed her the same night I was killed. Can't be Julie (via her claim of Witch Doctor--supposing she was telling the truth) since the Witchdoctor is a Day submission thing, as far as I know, and so she never had the chance to know I was dead. It has to have been Sister Coyote by default/process of elimination. 2. Julie all of said Kat killed her. Kat all of said she was a vampire. It is commonly known that those made vamps by other vamps are dead for one Day and come back to life a Day later. What is so hard about this? This is like 1 + 1 = 2. 3. Now Julie is trying to say SHE'S a Witchdoctor since that's the ONLY way she (Julie) could have come back from the dead without being a vamp. The only other way is by being vamped, you do know this, right? So for that to happen, the only other possible way she'd have come back to life is if she put the spell on herself, the Night before she died. While I'd say that WAS likely, the fact that she's saying Kat killed her makes it seem more suspicious. IF Julie is a Witchdoctor and if she was killed by Kat, the claimed Vamp, and if she did rise a Day later and yet, is NOT the vamp but raised by her own powers.....I'd say that was a very, huge, extremely large coincidence. I think the easier explanation is just that Julie has now been converted. But I'm for lynching any of the claimed scum as well, toDay.[/quote] Okay, that makes sense. Despite all that, though, I still think that if we lynch a vamp toDay, we should lynch Kat. Better a 100% chance than a 95% chance, yaknow?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Oct 2, 2009 17:00:18 GMT -5
It's not that hard, actually: 1. If SC didn't bring me back, who did? Can't be Buff the Vamp cause she was dead. Can't be Kat the Vamp since Julie says Kat killed her the same night I was killed. Can't be Julie (via her claim of Witch Doctor--supposing she was telling the truth) since the Witchdoctor is a Day submission thing, as far as I know, and so she never had the chance to know I was dead. It has to have been Sister Coyote by default/process of elimination. 2. Julie all of said Kat killed her. Kat all of said she was a vampire. It is commonly known that those made vamps by other vamps are dead for one Day and come back to life a Day later. What is so hard about this? This is like 1 + 1 = 2. 3. Now Julie is trying to say SHE'S a Witchdoctor since that's the ONLY way she (Julie) could have come back from the dead without being a vamp. The only other way is by being vamped, you do know this, right? So for that to happen, the only other possible way she'd have come back to life is if she put the spell on herself, the Night before she died. While I'd say that WAS likely, the fact that she's saying Kat killed her makes it seem more suspicious. IF Julie is a Witchdoctor and if she was killed by Kat, the claimed Vamp, and if she did rise a Day later and yet, is NOT the vamp but raised by her own powers.....I'd say that was a very, huge, extremely large coincidence. I think the easier explanation is just that Julie has now been converted. But I'm for lynching any of the claimed scum as well, toDay. Okay, that makes sense. Despite all that, though, I still think that if we lynch a vamp toDay, we should lynch Kat. Better a 100% chance than a 95% chance, yaknow? Yes, and I agree, for the record.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 2, 2009 17:27:46 GMT -5
An eventful Night.
On Nanook's claim to have targeted me. It makes a lot of sense for a Vig to target a claimed Scotsman; as he says, we either wind up with a confirmed Town, reducing the places for the anti-Town forces to hide, or a proven liar.
That I was not proven means either Nanook lied or a third party interfered with a protection or roleblock. The only public protective role are the Witches, and I certainly hope they weren't targeting me, since they were our defence against the Cabal. That leaves a roleblock, which we know is the Cabal's group power. Blocking Nanookk might make sense to them, as it reduces the possibility they might be killed by a killer. Or, working on the principle that anything I can think of the scum group(s) can probably also think of, maybe the Cabal deduced Nanook's target and threw a block to cast suspicion on us.
On the subject of killers, we had three deaths last Night. If Nanook was blocked that means there are still three separate killers wandering around, which means, since we have only one claimed Vig, there are still two Vampires (no matter how many Wolves there are, they get one kill per Night, special powers excluded.). Three deaths per Night will wear the game down quickly, and there are only 11 players left now.
More later.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 2, 2009 17:42:19 GMT -5
MHaye's post got me thinking...I think we need to kill a claimed killer toDay. We can't have another Night with so many deaths in it. I need to actually look at numbers to be sure, but he's right with three deaths a Night we get to lylo farily quickly.
Vote: Kat
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Post by Gir! on Oct 2, 2009 17:58:29 GMT -5
Wanna know the scary thing? You guys have 3 other Nightkillers, besides me.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 2, 2009 18:07:35 GMT -5
It's not that hard, actually: 1. If SC didn't bring me back, who did? Can't be Buff the Vamp cause she was dead. Can't be Kat the Vamp since Julie says Kat killed her the same night I was killed. Can't be Julie (via her claim of Witch Doctor--supposing she was telling the truth) since the Witchdoctor is a Day submission thing, as far as I know, and so she never had the chance to know I was dead. It has to have been Sister Coyote by default/process of elimination. The Witchdoctor's power is a Night power. From the rules post. There's still a good chance that SC enchanted you Night 3, since Julie could quite easily have enchanted herself. (I think it's neat - this is the first time we've ever seen the Witchdoctor power work in a game.) That turns out not to be the case. In the first Conspiracy game, the Vampire (and Wolves, incidentally) had the power to recruit by infection in this way, but it was (and is) not a public part of their role. If they have that power it is a secret power. In C2 (which I don't think you played in) the Undead secret power was held by the Necromancer; the Vampires (plural - there were two) were just killers. As a point of amusement, one of the Vampires killed the Necromancer in that game, too. There is one point in your favour, and that is that the setup mentions the possibility of recruitment; again, in the rules post (see the first paragraph) and this is a likely mechanism. That being said, if we have two Vampires running around (which I think is quite likely) then I doubt that they could both recruit. Coincidences happen (I say that every game, but it's true.) Don't dismiss something because it's unlikely. Keep it as a possible in the back of your mind until evidence disproving it appears.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 2, 2009 18:51:52 GMT -5
Wanna know the scary thing? You guys have 3 other Nightkillers, besides me. Wait, what?
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Post by Gir! on Oct 2, 2009 19:11:14 GMT -5
Those 3 dead people in the Dawn post? I didn't kill any of 'em.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Oct 2, 2009 19:34:54 GMT -5
Those 3 dead people in the Dawn post? I didn't kill any of 'em. Alright then...if you didn't kill any of them, then who did you kill?
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Post by Gir! on Oct 2, 2009 19:38:21 GMT -5
Julie coming back to life scares me since Kat had claimed Vampire before she died. I did? I don't think so. Your wording is ambiguous there, but either way, it's wrong. If "she" = "Julie": I didn't claim Vamp before Julie died. She died Night 3, and I claimed Day 4. 4 comes after 3. If "she"= "Kat": Well, technically, I did claim Vamp before I died, since I'm still alive, but what's the point of of adding "before she died" to that sentence if the person being referred to hasn't died.
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Post by Gir! on Oct 2, 2009 19:53:57 GMT -5
Those 3 dead people in the Dawn post? I didn't kill any of 'em. Alright then...if you didn't kill any of them, then who did you kill? Unless someone knows something that I don't, I didn't kill anyone.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 2, 2009 20:03:25 GMT -5
I didn't kill anybody either.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 2, 2009 20:06:17 GMT -5
Assuming that both I and Nanook or being truthful at what happened when we tried to kill Mhaye, something is either not as advertised in the Scotsman job description, he's lying, or there's a protective/blocking role that I'd sure like to know about if I were a Townie.
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Post by Gir! on Oct 2, 2009 20:21:51 GMT -5
You know what's amusing? That I spent a couple of Nights conversing about my teeth....
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