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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 13:11:11 GMT -5
How would I be in violation of rule 6? I have no idea the exact wording of how you are instructed not to trust me. It could say, Oh yeah, redskeezix is untrustworthy. Or that redskeezix guy is such a sleazeball, don't trust him, okay?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 13:19:12 GMT -5
Ok so it's cards on the table time for me. There's somethings I can say and somethings I cannot say. There is also the possibility that Sister C has been lying to me exclusively. That's something that I cannot control, but should be accounted for. 1. I know all the win conditions in the game. 2. If you lynch me, everyone including me loses. 3. If we lynch anyone, they will be revealed as town. 4. There will be no player initiated night kills this game. 5. No lynch is an asshole and we should get him/her out of the game as quickly as possible. [colorblue] Vote: no lynch [/color][/quote] so if we don't lynch during the Day and there are no player initiated Night kills doesn't this seem to play out over an extended period of time? or can we only lynch no lynch once?[/quote] I do not know how night kills will happen or if they will happen at all. 6. Noone's win condition involves any side having a greater number of players than anyone else's.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 14:31:01 GMT -5
mod question: will the mod be lying to us in this game as part of its bastardness?
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Post by NAF1138 on Feb 16, 2010 14:32:02 GMT -5
That's one of those trick questions isn't it?
Also, has the Day actually started?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 16, 2010 14:46:14 GMT -5
mod question: will the mod be lying to us in this game as part of its bastardness? Now why in the hell would I answer that?That's one of those trick questions isn't it? Also, has the Day actually started? Yes, as of Post 82Vote Count as of This Post Unless Someone Snuck In A Vote On Me: One Vote: peekercpa (penalty) no lynch (redskeezix)
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 15:13:21 GMT -5
That's one of those trick questions isn't it? Also, has the Day actually started? well in the few bastard games i have actually played in the mod would never purposely lie to you in a pm. now they certainly would screw with you and have all sorts of weird unforseen twists. was just checking is all.
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Post by NAF1138 on Feb 16, 2010 15:13:53 GMT -5
I missed the title that said Day 1 begins here. Sneaky mod.
What the hell
vote no lynch
he is a bit of a bastard.
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Post by Methos on Feb 16, 2010 15:40:10 GMT -5
I don't recall seeing the day post either, but since I don't have a clue who any of you are...
Vote: No Lynch
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 16, 2010 15:50:16 GMT -5
So we're just going to see what happens Tonight and then start playing the game Tomorrow?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 16:19:03 GMT -5
So we're just going to see what happens Tonight and then start playing the game Tomorrow? I need a majority of no lynch votes today. It'd be swell if we could make that happen. If that means the game starts for real Tomorrow, then so be it. The game for me has already started, but cannot continue until we agree to no lynch. Be it today or a different day.
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Post by NAF1138 on Feb 16, 2010 16:22:05 GMT -5
The question in my mind is...
Well ok, first I want to know who, if anyone other than me, knew what the heck cookies was talking about in her first post of the Night?
Next the question in my mind is, who can we really trust in a bastard game. Sis placed some wine in front of me and Cookies at the very least, but there is wine in front of Red too. So who's drink has the poison? And why does history have only 2 great blunders, you would think there would be more.
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Post by sinjin on Feb 16, 2010 18:14:26 GMT -5
Vote: NAF
For jumping on the no lynch wagon so quickly and cuddling Cookies. If I'm not scum he must be.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 18:31:11 GMT -5
ok, let's assume that there is something that i know that suggests that skeez might not be on the up and up. so now he's in possession of wincons that i know i don't have. so i have to trust him on this.
this may be a strange play but since the mod wouldn't answer my question i have to leave open the possibility that my knowledge is imperfect at this time.
so do i trust the mod who has indicated that they will not necessarily be transparent or trust the one person that i shouldn't trust.
i think, i'll be half pregnant.
vote no lynch
that way we can see what the Night brings as well as if there might be more information forthcoming in subsequent communications. because as much as i believe that if we lynch skeez the game will not end i also have trouble grasping that if we don't lynch him that it would end as well.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 18:36:19 GMT -5
And why does history have only 2 great blunders, you would think there would be more. <snipped> my ex wives should not be fodder for a mafia conversation.
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Post by NAF1138 on Feb 16, 2010 18:49:14 GMT -5
If I'm not scum he must be. You make a compelling argument, and truly history has supported the truthiness of the above, but I am not scum this time.
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Post by sinjin on Feb 16, 2010 18:51:33 GMT -5
1. I know all the win conditions in the game. What are they? Well it will be a quick and stupid game then, won't it? Makes me want to lynch you more than NAF or peeks for once. Will you be revealed as town as well? Because the mod who said she would lie to us says so? Did the mod tell you this too? Unvote: NAF Vote: redskeezix
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 19:13:22 GMT -5
1. I know all the win conditions in the game. What are they? Well it will be a quick and stupid game then, won't it? Makes me want to lynch you more than NAF or peeks for once. Will you be revealed as town as well? Because the mod who said she would lie to us says so? Did the mod tell you this too? I cannot be arsed to screw around with the quoting things. But, I will answer your questions. 1. It would hardly be fair for everyone now would it, if I just told you the win conditions. Maybe you could guess? I wouldn't confirm or deny any of the guesses. But it would help you pass the time, probably. 2. Note this: Since I have all the win conditions, if you lynch me, you will not find out yours, and thus you can never win. So yeah, go ahead, try me. 3. It would be a worthless test of my alignment since the game would be over, and you would have lost. 4. Somethings I just know, since I know all the win conditions and know you have been instructed that I am untrustworthy. Perhaps I know more than you, perhaps not. Maybe you should just vote no lynch and see what happens. 5. That was a joke, but based on my default position for mafia, which is to vote for whoever I find scummiest.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 19:17:54 GMT -5
5. That was a joke, but based on my default position for mafia, which is to vote for whoever I find scummiest. <snipped> since you feel that this a personal way of playing the game, would you suggest that other players also act on this criteria?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 19:25:33 GMT -5
since you feel that this a personal way of playing the game, would you suggest that other players also act on this criteria? Yes, I do think that other players should vote for who I think is the scummiest.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 19:31:15 GMT -5
ok, so this is experimental, right? sis is trying to suss out a full game with some twists.
she wants to see the herd mentality to something contrary.
so offer a sacrifice that has all the info. what does town do? do we believe our mod or the person that our mod says not to believe. so unless this is a mini for a full bastard game i think i know.
and skeez i'd really like to hear your response to the question that i directed to you.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 19:33:11 GMT -5
since you feel that this a personal way of playing the game, would you suggest that other players also act on this criteria? Yes, I do think that other players should vote for who I think is the scummiest. so if the mod sent you a pm that had high implications that someone was not to be trusted what would you do with a townies' inference in that case? hypothetical, of course.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 16, 2010 19:34:06 GMT -5
Oh, um.
Day One will end on Thursday at approximately 1:00 Pacific
And we'll just pretend that I didn't forget the deadline, yes?
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Post by NAF1138 on Feb 16, 2010 19:35:48 GMT -5
Oh, there is a deadline now too, eh?
I thought this was going to be one of those open ended things like story had going on.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 19:46:21 GMT -5
Yes, I do think that other players should vote for who I think is the scummiest. so if the mod sent you a pm that had high implications that someone was not to be trusted what would you do with a townies' inference in that case? hypothetical, of course. It's hard for me to put myself in your shoes in this game peek. I know what you should do. But I don't know what I'd do. In the bastard game on giraffe I listened to the mod, and he was not lying. In this game I know that the mod is lying, but alas I do not know who the mod is lying to. At this point, I am asking everyone to believe that the mod is lying to them, but not to me. Players reactions in this game have told me that I am correct in my assessment that I am not being lied to. So that is what I stick with. Note the hypocrisy. I, believing the lying mod, am asking you to disbelieve the lying mod. It would be difficult for me to make an objective hypothetical that would be not be somewhat an attempt to sway players to jump on the no lynch bandwagon. So I will not make that attempt.
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Post by NAF1138 on Feb 16, 2010 19:51:46 GMT -5
So why not just lay the cards on the table and explain things more completely red?
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 19:53:15 GMT -5
hey, skeez i am not voting for you. matter of fact, i have taken your recommendation on where the vote should go. i am just merely curious what you would do if you were not you based on the facts at hand. because bastard still has rules, just not like real normal ones, dontyaknow. so you are going to have to help out and figure out what is going on, otherwise, ultimately i have to place my faith in dogmom.
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Post by sinjin on Feb 16, 2010 19:55:10 GMT -5
I need a majority of no lynch votes today. It'd be swell if we could make that happen. If that means the game starts for real Tomorrow, then so be it. The game for me has already started, but cannot continue until we agree to no lynch. Be it today or a different day. Do you win if you get a majority of no lynch votes, Mr. I know everyone's win condition (MIKEWC from now on)? Do you have a solo win con?
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 19:56:26 GMT -5
and it just occurred to me. if this a fuck with skeez game i can so totally get down with that.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 19:59:55 GMT -5
and for methos just hang in there. it really is not as painful the second time.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 20:00:28 GMT -5
I need a majority of no lynch votes today. It'd be swell if we could make that happen. If that means the game starts for real Tomorrow, then so be it. The game for me has already started, but cannot continue until we agree to no lynch. Be it today or a different day. Do you win if you get a majority of no lynch votes, Mr. I know everyone's win condition (MIKEWC from now on)? Do you have a solo win con? Yes. But so can you (all). No, my wincon is shared.
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