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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 20:05:25 GMT -5
So why not just lay the cards on the table and explain things more completely red? Well, since you asked nicely. This game is a Greek myth, I am Cassandra and The moderator is Apollo. There, full disclosure.
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Post by sinjin on Feb 16, 2010 20:36:25 GMT -5
Well, since you asked nicely. This game is a Greek myth, I am Cassandra and The moderator is Apollo. There, full disclosure. I don't believe you, hee.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 20:45:12 GMT -5
Well, since you asked nicely. This game is a Greek myth, I am Cassandra and The moderator is Apollo. There, full disclosure. I don't believe you, hee. do you know something?
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Post by sinjin on Feb 16, 2010 21:07:02 GMT -5
I don't believe you, hee. do you know something? Just what I read on teh intrawebs. Oh and a bit of this or that thermodynamics that I picked up along the road: 1) You can't win 2) You can't break even 3) You can't stop playing the game Game ON!!!
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 16, 2010 21:29:05 GMT -5
wee hee. counters and bullshit. love it.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 16, 2010 21:38:27 GMT -5
Players reactions in this game have told me that I am correct in my assessment that I am not being lied to. So that is what I stick with. Care to be more specific?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 16, 2010 22:41:36 GMT -5
Well, some people have confirmed the don't trust redskeezix thing.
I recognized you attempted handshake disguised as a joke immediately for what it is.
Which I was warned in advance about. This entire day has largely revolved around what I have to say about it. Which is kind of ego boosting in a weird way. But also signifies that none of you have any idea what is going on. Which I was warned about.
Also, no one has called me on the fact that they know their win condition, which leads me to believe that the fact I was told that I am the only one who knows the win conditions, which is something that I was also informed of.
Reasons why I am distrusting of what I've been told: I was told that the game would end and everyone would lose if I get lynched.
All of this, however, is unprovable by me.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 17, 2010 0:54:02 GMT -5
The fortune cookie comment was an attempt at a subtle handshake, indicating that there was a little something extra on my PM than what was posted by the Mod. Once you came out talking smack about our Bastard Mod, I decided to go right for the full disclosure that I was informed that you couldn't be trusted, just in case I was the only one who knew. It would humor me if you really thought my use of the Danger! Danger! clip was any attempt at being sly.
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Post by Methos on Feb 17, 2010 1:37:45 GMT -5
Reasons why I am distrusting of what I've been told: I was told that the game would end and everyone would lose if I get lynched. All of this, however, is unprovable by me. Since you appear to show a desire to test your own speculation... Unvote: No Lynch Vote: redskeezix
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 9:50:46 GMT -5
The fortune cookie comment was an attempt at a subtle handshake, indicating that there was a little something extra on my PM than what was posted by the Mod. Once you came out talking smack about our Bastard Mod, I decided to go right for the full disclosure that I was informed that you couldn't be trusted, just in case I was the only one who knew. It would humor me if you really thought my use of the Danger! Danger! clip was any attempt at being sly. Eh, I saw the fortune cookie thing, but didn't know what to make of it. The clip I thought was the joke. But the message that I can't be trusted was the handshake, I thought. Oh, well. Its not surprising that I do not detect subtlety, I am about as subtle as a sledgehammer. Methos, really? You were doing so well. You could test my assertions by lynching me and risking losing, or you could test my assertions by not lynching anyone and risking winning. Sometimes you vanilla townies are just so eager to get some blood on the rope, you'll lynch anyone.
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Post by Methos on Feb 17, 2010 12:04:43 GMT -5
Methos, really? You were doing so well. You could test my assertions by lynching me and risking losing, or you could test my assertions by not lynching anyone and risking winning. Sometimes you vanilla townies are just so eager to get some blood on the rope, you'll lynch anyone. I'm new to this forum and I don't know the rest of you. So tell me, possibly losing one game to learn more about a player doesn't sound reasonable to you?
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 17, 2010 12:33:34 GMT -5
methos, i am not sure if i understand the gist of your last post. i mean losing the game would most likely result in us learning about all the players (unless sis decides to not spoil everyone upon completion) but i am unsure at this point if that information means i just want to lose if skeezy happens to be telling the truth about lynching him.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 17, 2010 12:39:37 GMT -5
Vote count as of right this second:
No Votes: NAF (sinjin)
One Vote: peekercpa (penalty)
Two Votes: red skeezix (sinjin, methos)
Three Votes: no lynch (redskeezix, NAF, Methos, peeker)
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Post by BillMc on Feb 17, 2010 13:23:30 GMT -5
Also, no one has called me on the fact that they know their win condition, which leads me to believe that the fact I was told that I am the only one who knows the win conditions, which is something that I was also informed of. Reasons why I am distrusting of what I've been told: I was told that the game would end and everyone would lose if I get lynched. All of this, however, is unprovable by me. Which leaves us in an interesting quandary. If you want to live, why post what you posted to start with? It just puts heat on you. Are you some variation on jester that wins when you get lynched - or with no lynch?
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 14:25:49 GMT -5
Which leaves us in an interesting quandary. If you want to live, why post what you posted to start with? It just puts heat on you. Are you some variation on jester that wins when you get lynched - or with no lynch? 1.I was trying capture the attention of all before it could be directed at things like possible roles, general strategy, or other normal mafia discussions. 2. My role could be seen as a variation of Jester, in that lynching me results in a loss for all (including me). While a no lynch will allow a future win for myself. You cannot win at all ever, if you lynch me. Or at least that is what I've been told.
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Post by Methos on Feb 17, 2010 14:51:01 GMT -5
Or at least that is what I've been told. So you're stating that we shouldn't believe what Sis says in our PMs, yet its okay for you to believe Sis in yours? Plus, from what you've stated earlier, then the only non-town is you.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 17, 2010 14:55:21 GMT -5
Are you diving somewhere, pede? Send us a ping or something.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 15:20:05 GMT -5
Or at least that is what I've been told. So you're stating that we shouldn't believe what Sis says in our PMs, yet its okay for you to believe Sis in yours? Plus, from what you've stated earlier, then the only non-town is you. Hey, you win a cookie! Although, my win conditions is pro-town, so while not directly affiliated with town players, we share a common goal.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 15:20:56 GMT -5
Are you diving somewhere, pede? Send us a ping or something.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 17, 2010 16:15:04 GMT -5
I thought he (pede) was playing, but he just surfaced in the thread at the beginning of the game for the fun of it I guess. Sorry, carry on.
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Post by sinjin on Feb 17, 2010 16:57:06 GMT -5
1.I was trying capture the attention of all before it could be directed at things like possible roles, general strategy, or other normal mafia discussions. I call bullshit. You could have brought this up at any time and captured all the attention you ever wanted. What does a no lynch do for town? That is the question. Who cares what it does for you as you seem to be NOT town? And if it's true that we all lose, including you, if we lynch you. I say have at it. Why waste our time playing a silly game. Bastard is fine (Batman was a blast), silly is a waste.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 17:33:05 GMT -5
The question is: What does no lynch do for town?
1. It prevents a mislynch. There is no lynch you can make that is not a mislynch today. So accept it, or don't. 2. I win. Helping me win, helps town win.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 17, 2010 17:51:54 GMT -5
Some possible implications of what Skeez just said...
There really aren't any scum at this point, just town and a pfk/"other wincon"/3rd Party skeez, and by some as-yet-unknown-mechanism, some of us will wake up as Scum in the morning.
Skeez is lying or being lied to at least about everyone currently being Town, and there is at least one Scum who can potentially recruit, adding to the Scum numbers as the game progresses.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 17, 2010 17:54:39 GMT -5
well i am of two minds here. i believe it natural to not believe trickydickyskeezy. and i kind of agree with sinjin (there's a first) that if we lynch skeez based on the information that we seem to be in possession of that this crosses the border from bastardly to silly. but i also wonder if there might be more information forthcoming in the future. so i am inclined to give skeez the benefit of the doubt, for the moment. but if something were not to shake loose toNight or as a result of a no lynch vote then he should swing tomorrow as a default.
skeez. does it have to be a no lynch today? what would happen if we were to lynch someone else?
why the reluctance to be specific in describing the wincons? if you wanted to maybe re-establish some credibility that might be a determining factor in your continued health.
because i'll go out on a limb here. what you quoted was exactly what i received regarding your proclivity to non trustworthiness.
and since there have been no apparent sanctions for this seeming rule infraction it lends me to believe that there may have been some monkey business regarding that "quote".
and i took a nitro tablet before i typed this. in the absence of something real compelling i am inclined to agree with sinjin that you are full of it.
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Post by NAF1138 on Feb 17, 2010 17:55:52 GMT -5
Hey Red, as another sign of good faith, want to drop some more information on us? After all what could it hurt? If all you need to do to win is not get lynched today, telling us more information can only help your cause, right?
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 17, 2010 18:00:26 GMT -5
1. It prevents a mislynch. There is no lynch you can make that is not a mislynch today. So accept it, or don't. <snipped> hey skeez, your definition of a mislynch, please.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 18:03:48 GMT -5
At this point it probably couldn't hurt.
I am Cassandra. The prophet who was gifted with foreknowledge, but cursed with the fact that no one would believe her. This is my actual role.
From my PM I can glean that this game is Silly. Nothing more than a test of a mechanic. That mechanic being my role. The whole point of the game I believe is to convince a majority of you, to do something. In this game it is to no-lynch. It must be a no lynch. I am not supposed to quote anyone's PM's but I have it on dubious authority that you all received the same or functionally identical PMs. I also have it on dubious authority, that the game will progress like a normal game of mafia sans scum, until either I can convince you to no-lynch, or you can convince yourselves to lynch me.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 18:05:07 GMT -5
1. It prevents a mislynch. There is no lynch you can make that is not a mislynch today. So accept it, or don't. <snipped> hey skeez, your definition of a mislynch, please. A lynch of a pro-town role. Or a lynch which progresses the game in a manner detrimental to town.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 18:09:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah, and peeks asked again for the town wincondition.
There is two reasons that I've been withholding it.
1. The game seemed boring from my PM. I was trying to keep it interesting for myself, instead of just paraphrasing my PM.
2. I don't think that you would believe it.
Town wins when a majority of town players vote no lynch.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 17, 2010 18:10:14 GMT -5
NETA: That's all of you, BTW.
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