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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 12:51:53 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Mar 2, 2010 12:51:53 GMT -5
I don't get how you thought magic suicide bagging would direct the conversation elsewhere...
--FCOD
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 12:55:06 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Mar 2, 2010 12:55:06 GMT -5
Pretty much what I was about to say until I noticed there was a page 3 and your post at the top of it.
Magic Bagging is a good way to ensure that the conversation doesn't stop revolving around you until you reveal the contents.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 13:25:14 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 2, 2010 13:25:14 GMT -5
I think Meeko's quote was in response to me asking him about your (paul's) Towniness It was. I haven't had time to think about it, one way or the other. It would seem to me, to be a fool's errand at this point, if either paul is a "victim" or some other suicidal type role, or will claim at any moment to prove otherwise.
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Mar 2, 2010 13:33:34 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 2, 2010 13:33:34 GMT -5
I suppose I'll wait until morning to figure out what you're talking about, Paul, but I have to admit that the magic bag of sudden death isn't very impressive from where I'm sitting at the moment. I nominate this for the most Haggle ish related Mafia quote, ever. I would love to see your rule slip on that Sister.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 13:40:06 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 2, 2010 13:40:06 GMT -5
How am I magic bagging anyway? I never claimed to have special information that you all don't. If anything I provided more info than you had before. A Magic Bag is not me saying, "I know my role, and I won't be around much longer." anymore than you guys saying "I know my role." I cannot provide further information at this time.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 13:48:34 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 2, 2010 13:48:34 GMT -5
How am I magic bagging anyway? I never claimed to have special information that you all don't. If anything I provided more info than you had before. A Magic Bag is not me saying, "I know my role, and I won't be around much longer." anymore than you guys saying "I know my role." I cannot provide further information at this time. Isn't that pretty much the definition of a magic bag? "I know something important, but I can't tell you right now."
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 13:53:41 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 2, 2010 13:53:41 GMT -5
"If Paul is or is not town, it wouldn't matter if we can't save him." Okay basically... it doesn't matter if he is town or not because he says he is destined for death. ---- Here's the problem there Meeko. You can't take the side that I am Town and not believe I am telling the truth about not being around much longer.... and you can't take the opposite side and expect to be able to believe that I am telling the truth.
I am not sure I follow this.
Where did I say that I didn't believe you?
When did I say I was taking the opposite side? What exactly is the opposite side?
If you are destined to die at any given point, it would be a waste of powers to target you. Good money after bad.
You have said you are town. You have implied that you are a limited time offer.
On the face of that, I don't need to form an opinion. What is to be gained from my opinion?
If it turns out that you are lying on either point, you wouldn't need healing from a town aligned player.
I just thought about something. I think either of my powers can help the situation.
Paul, if I can help you live longer, let me know, and I will protect you.
The fact that you didn't ask, was the reason why I asked if you had read my claim. It also could hint at your limited time offer-ness. I would have thought you would have asked for protection. There could be a number of reasons why you didn't, and again, I've already made my choice tonight.
Paul, if I can't help you live longer, and if indeed no one can, then I can kill you tommorow, if you ask.
The way I look at it, it would be a free pass on my vig tommorow. If you are going to die anyway, you could absorb my negative, with nothing else happening to town.
We could have a re-director out there. [Pure guess on my part] We could not. I know of only one way to guarantee that I don't hit the person I need to target each night. That would be not to do anything.
Was there a re-director in the first game?
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 13:55:17 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 2, 2010 13:55:17 GMT -5
How am I magic bagging anyway? I never claimed to have special information that you all don't. If anything I provided more info than you had before. A Magic Bag is not me saying, "I know my role, and I won't be around much longer." anymore than you guys saying "I know my role." I cannot provide further information at this time. Isn't that pretty much the definition of a magic bag? "I know something important, but I can't tell you right now." Worse, he is admitting that he has ""further information"".
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 14:06:22 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Mar 2, 2010 14:06:22 GMT -5
I suppose I'll wait until morning to figure out what you're talking about, Paul, but I have to admit that the magic bag of sudden death isn't very impressive from where I'm sitting at the moment. I nominate this for the most Haggle ish related Mafia quote, ever. I would love to see your rule slip on that Sister. I don't think I've ever played Haggle, so now I'm just confused. Not that this is anything new.
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Mar 2, 2010 14:30:10 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 2, 2010 14:30:10 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever played Haggle, so now I'm just confused. You said "from where I sit". To continue on that, Haggle has everyone sitting in different places. Then it's musical chairs from then on out. .... Actually, are you Magic Bagging also, Sister?
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 14:48:40 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 2, 2010 14:48:40 GMT -5
If you are destined to die at any given point, it would be a waste of powers to target you. Good money after bad. Yes, which would be true if paul were Town, perhaps. But if paul were Scum, would be believe his 'limited time offer'? That part could be a lie to buy time or for some other reason. Though I'm still failing to see Scum motivation in paul's actions, but maybe there's something in the Scum gameplan or he just plain slipped like Bill did
I don't think I've ever played Haggle, so now I'm just confused.
You said "from where I sit". To continue on that, Haggle has everyone sitting in different places. Then it's musical chairs from then on out. .... Actually, are you Magic Bagging also, Sister? Interesting, what magic bag are you seeing from Sister? because I loooked and I saw nothing in her recent posts.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 14:57:13 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 2, 2010 14:57:13 GMT -5
well the only thing i would suggest is this. paul if you are town you might want to consider coming clean right at the end of the Night if you are concerned that your information migh influence any Night actions in a non town fashion.
because if you have information that is helpful to town and for whatever reason you don't survivie to the next Day this information is lost forever.
because to have a role that is supposedly so valuable as to be concerned about the small possibility of bill being a bomb multiplied by the small possibility that you would be the target of said bomb in a larger population coupled with your pending "expiration date" sounds to be a potentially intriguing read, to say the least.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 15:01:04 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Mar 2, 2010 15:01:04 GMT -5
Not magic bagging it at all. Not even sure what I said that could be construed as a magic bag.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 16:04:25 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Mar 2, 2010 16:04:25 GMT -5
I don't know that there is a magic bag at play. Or even if there is one that it is going to have much in it, which is the part I don't understand about Paul's play.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 16:08:39 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 2, 2010 16:08:39 GMT -5
It's the "where I'm sitting" in SisC's post. Meeko is reading that as Sister saying that she has some information influencing her view of paul's posts that town in general doesn't have rather than the way that the rest of us saw it as simply stating that she didn't care much for paul's statement. I feel that now would be an appropriate time to mention horses, zebras and the probability of seeing one vs. the other, Meeko.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 16:09:19 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 2, 2010 16:09:19 GMT -5
Isn't that pretty much the definition of a magic bag? "I know something important, but I can't tell you right now." Worse, he is admitting that he has ""further information"". YEAH.... MY ROLE.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 16:15:58 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 2, 2010 16:15:58 GMT -5
I don't know that there is a magic bag at play. Or even if there is one that it is going to have much in it, which is the part I don't understand about Paul's play. It's not gonna have much in it. Everyone keeps putting pressure on me and building this up like it's something big. I have a limited life expectancy... That being said... I didn't want to die without contributing something to town. In a couple of hours... I will be able to explain and hopefully you won't all be so horribly dissapointed that you shun me from the boards.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:00:57 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 2, 2010 18:00:57 GMT -5
... I will be able to explain and hopefully you won't all be so horribly dissapointed that you shun me from the boards. Can we shun you for reasons other than disappointment?
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:02:21 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 2, 2010 18:02:21 GMT -5
It's the "where I'm sitting" in SisC's post. Meeko is reading that as Sister saying that she has some information influencing her view of paul's posts that town in general doesn't have rather than the way that the rest of us saw it as simply stating that she didn't care much for paul's statement. I feel that now would be an appropriate time to mention horses, zebras and the probability of seeing one vs. the other, Meeko. ohhhh...I completely took "from where I'm sitting..." to mean "in my view"
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:18:05 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 2, 2010 18:18:05 GMT -5
What do ya'll think the Emissary part means?
Is that usually someone who goes to one party on behalf of another party?
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:29:57 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 2, 2010 18:29:57 GMT -5
Wait, where was emissary mentioned? In the day thread?
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Mar 2, 2010 18:31:28 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 2, 2010 18:31:28 GMT -5
Wait, where was emissary mentioned? In the day thread? i must have missed it as well.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:32:03 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 2, 2010 18:32:03 GMT -5
The title of the game SSBM2: Smasher's Emissary?
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:34:54 GMT -5
Post by MentalGuy on Mar 2, 2010 18:34:54 GMT -5
I looked up the definition of emissary and got:
an agent or messenger sent on a mission, esp one who represents a government or head of state
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an agent sent on a secret mission, as a spy
Super Smash Brothers Brawl has a platform game included in it called Subspace Emissary, though.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:38:15 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 2, 2010 18:38:15 GMT -5
ok, well color me inattentive to detail. but to be fair except for story's game i don't think i have ever really paid that much attention. and to be further fair since that had some potential side changing (which was very un story) it was the only reason i paid attention. oh, and the fact that i had a choosing role it made it a wee bit more apparent.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:38:27 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 2, 2010 18:38:27 GMT -5
Oh, hey, look at that. I don't even know what Smasher would refer to. I've played a few of the SSB incarnations and don't really know what it could be.
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 18:53:49 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Mar 2, 2010 18:53:49 GMT -5
It's 3 minutes past the end of Night! Where is the Dawn!? ENABLE MY ADDICTION, DARN YOU ALL! *breathes in a paper bag*
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Night 1
Mar 2, 2010 19:01:40 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 2, 2010 19:01:40 GMT -5
well he was here. hope he's not tracking down all those links provided by liping
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