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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:06:37 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 21:06:37 GMT -5
as soon as someone can tell me EXACTLY what to do with all of this information, I will oblige. I never thought having all of the answers would provide more questions. one teensy weensy clue. in the absence of a counter claim don't fucking vig skeeztonight. kthnxbye.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:09:55 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 21:09:55 GMT -5
as soon as someone can tell me EXACTLY what to do with all of this information, I will oblige. you want someone to tell you what to do? This is Mafia. You have to decide for yourself. Now, if you want my opinion on the claims: I'm trusting Red is a mason at this point. A Mason claim is tough to fake, but that doesn't mean I think he's Town. We've had 3rd party Masons before (Super Mario). I'm also leaning toward him being Town, because he wouldn't have needed to claim mason if he weren't. I'm not completely trusting paul because of the number of killing roles we've had claim so far. I believe he has a Day killing power, because that's so easily testable. But is it a Day Vig or a Scum Strongman? I'm not sure what to think about you, Meeko. Honestly, I tend toward believing you over paul because paul's claim was unprovoked and has a couple of holes. But none of these claims have earned 100% trust from me. I never thought having all of the answers would provide more questions. We don't have all the answers. We have a few claims. And we have to decide which stuff is real and which stuff is fake. And then we have to decide what to do about it. And, really, most of us can only trust ourselves.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:22:54 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 21:22:54 GMT -5
as soon as someone can tell me EXACTLY what to do with all of this information, I will oblige. I never thought having all of the answers would provide more questions. one teensy weensy clue. in the absence of a counter claim don't fucking vig skeeztonight. kthnxbye. you realize that Red claimed Mason in a game where we have a dead 3rd party mason. That's not as rock solid as one might think.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:26:08 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 21:26:08 GMT -5
it is to me.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:33:04 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 21:33:04 GMT -5
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:34:40 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 21:34:40 GMT -5
yep
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:35:39 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 21:35:39 GMT -5
you know, Meeko's not going to understand that.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:41:34 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 21:41:34 GMT -5
pop
that was meeko's head 'sploding.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:42:32 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 21:42:32 GMT -5
seriously that was cross post 'cause i think you are scum ed
but it was funny as shit, none the less.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:45:49 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 21:45:49 GMT -5
the formalities they do do me in
unvote all
vote drain - 3 vote ed - 2 vote paul - 1
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:49:20 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 3, 2010 21:49:20 GMT -5
Very. When I read it, I immediately sat up in my chair. I don't have a wincon. Wincon makes me think either third party or scum. Seems a good enough of a bet to me, and frankly I've heard the "killing me will only prove my alignment" defense one too many times from scum. Can you explain further the bolded phrase. I fail to see how wincon makes you think scum or third party. Are you not playing to meet some condition that will enable you to be declared a winner? Yes, it could be an innocent mistake from soneone who has played other games, but it feels like a slip to me, and I think that's as good a place to lay my vote as any at the moment. I'll grant you this point. As soon as it came back that I had posted without thinking clearly and then I checked and saw that I also had no wincon in my pm, I was like oh, shit now I'm gonna have to claim. Not that this should be taken as much of an excuse, since my failure will obviously have some unpleasant costs, but I am doing 3 games right now, and I everything starts to run together after a while. Ed does raise a fair point about the only mod confirmed mason in this game being third party. There is nothing in this game that I can do to prove my alignment, short of dying. And don't fret your head about it too much, I'm sure scum will make short work of me before too long. One other thing for people to keep in the back of their minds. Total had the power to restore powers after day 3. Which means that someone probably has the power to take powers away. Like a switch role, I imagine.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:53:28 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 21:53:28 GMT -5
uh, fuck skeez you might want to catch up.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 21:56:16 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 21:56:16 GMT -5
seriously that was cross post 'cause i think you are scum edbut it was funny as shit, none the less. Yeah, I suppose it was funny. And you think I'm scum...because....?
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:01:21 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 22:01:21 GMT -5
the formalities they do do me in unvote all vote drain - 3 vote ed - 2 vote paul - 1and don't you think Town should give reasons when they vote? you know, just so we can understand the inner working of your mind. oh, wait, I'm not sure we want to do that..never mind
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:11:23 GMT -5
Post by MentalGuy on Mar 3, 2010 22:11:23 GMT -5
oh, and i will confirm that i was targeted last night. wonder if that helps a whole heck of fuck all. Can you tell me what it did? Or at least if it was beneficial or harmful?
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:13:16 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 3, 2010 22:13:16 GMT -5
Vote Count: Paulwhoisaghost: 1. redskeezix, 2., 3. Redskeezix: 1. Paul, 2., 3. Drainbead: 1., 2. paul, 3. Fluiddruid: 1. redskeezix, 2., 3. peekercpa: 1. drain, 2. Ed, 3. paul
Redskeezix (6): (paul 1st), (fluiddruid 1st) Paulwhoisaghost (6): (redskeezix 1st), (drainbead 2nd), (peekercpa 3rd) drainbead (3): (peekercpa 1st) Spec Ed (2): (peekercpa 2nd)
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:16:48 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 22:16:48 GMT -5
ok, here you go ed.
i am voting drain first because her weak me too vote with sis on Day 1. she hopped on that train kind of late even after i had pointed out the snipping. didn't seem to make a difference. almost like her mind was already made up and needed a reason for her vote. i mean its the exact same thing i would do as scum. take someone who is a lightening rod and hand them a two iron in a thunderstorm. this is pure scum opportunistic play.
i am voting for you for the clean noser award thus far which i think is an indication of scumitude. you are right in the middle, in my opinion, of everything. and the middle means not to far left or too far right.
and i am voting for paul because his claim just seems off. but if it is true then it is more likely a town role than a scum role but it just doesn't seem plausible so negative points.
now, i know that's probably not direct enough for you since you want to have a specific charge to answer to. don't have it - that's why you have only two votes as opposed to the definitely scummy feeling drain.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:20:20 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 22:20:20 GMT -5
oh, and i will confirm that i was targeted last night. wonder if that helps a whole heck of fuck all. Can you tell me what it did? Or at least if it was beneficial or harmful? i am still here but total is dead. if you are town, don't fucking do it to me again. please and thanks.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:26:22 GMT -5
Post by MentalGuy on Mar 3, 2010 22:26:22 GMT -5
Can you tell me what it did? Or at least if it was beneficial or harmful? i am still here but total is dead. if you are town, don't fucking do it to me again. please and thanks. But Total didn't die, she just lost (or at least it looks that way to me) because Cookies was killed. Are you saying I had something to do with Cookies death? Or are you saying I was more directly involved with Total?
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:30:23 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 22:30:23 GMT -5
i am voting for you for the clean noser award thus far which i think is an indication of scumitude. you are right in the middle, in my opinion, of everything. and the middle means not to far left or too far right. now, i know that's probably not direct enough for you since you want to have a specific charge to answer to. don't have it - that's why you have only two votes as opposed to the definitely scummy feeling drain. me? a clean nose? With how I pushed Meeko? With how I pressed Bill when he voted poorly until he slipped? You're right, I've kept my nose pretty clean. So I get only 2 votes, and this comes from you who played in the first game as Scum, and were even a part of the planned manipulation of the borda voting.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:31:25 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 22:31:25 GMT -5
it's a fucking rb power dude.
use it on meeko tonight.
then he can protect tomorrow.
my goodness.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 22:37:43 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 3, 2010 22:37:43 GMT -5
i am voting for you for the clean noser award thus far which i think is an indication of scumitude. you are right in the middle, in my opinion, of everything. and the middle means not to far left or too far right. now, i know that's probably not direct enough for you since you want to have a specific charge to answer to. don't have it - that's why you have only two votes as opposed to the definitely scummy feeling drain. me? a clean nose? With how I pushed Meeko? With how I pressed Bill when he voted poorly until he slipped? You're right, I've kept my nose pretty clean. So I get only 2 votes, and this comes from you who played in the first game as Scum, and were even a part of the planned manipulation of the borda voting. good point ed pushing meeko who based on the interaction with our mod seems to be more likely to be town. and pushing bill until he "slipped". seems like maybe you aren't a clean noser. maybe you know more than you should. and yeh, i can see you laying back and seeing how things play out in order to determine how you vote. indict yourself all you want.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 23:00:09 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 3, 2010 23:00:09 GMT -5
me? a clean nose? With how I pushed Meeko? With how I pressed Bill when he voted poorly until he slipped? You're right, I've kept my nose pretty clean. So I get only 2 votes, and this comes from you who played in the first game as Scum, and were even a part of the planned manipulation of the borda voting. good point ed pushing meeko who based on the interaction with our mod seems to be more likely to be town. and pushing bill until he "slipped". seems like maybe you aren't a clean noser. maybe you know more than you should. and yeh, i can see you laying back and seeing how things play out in order to determine how you vote. indict yourself all you want. Yes, I pushed Meeko before our Mod slipped And I pushed Bill on his poor reasoning for voting. laying back, like I did when I voted for Meeko? Or maybe like I did when I was the first to vote for Bill? Or maybe you got confused when you skimmed and thought I was the last to vote for him? Are you going to spend the entire game throwing out votes on a whim? So first I have a clean nose, and now I was getting myself dirty.
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Day 2
Mar 3, 2010 23:04:34 GMT -5
Post by MentalGuy on Mar 3, 2010 23:04:34 GMT -5
it's a fucking rb power dude. use it on meeko tonight. then he can protect tomorrow. my goodness. It may have seemed obvious to you that what you posted previously would imply what you said here, but look at it from my point of view where I do not have all the information that you have. If you had simply posted this post originally it would have been much clearer and you would not have been exposing yourself as much. I realize this can be a tightrope, but I would ask that if I experiment with any other powers, that those affected would give me as much information about what it does as possible while giving me as little information about your exact role as possible.
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Day 2
Mar 4, 2010 0:55:07 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 4, 2010 0:55:07 GMT -5
So a couple of things.
1. You guys are right, something is off about my role pm. I left out one thing and allowed you guys to assume another thing. In fact I am probably even guilty of lying about that thing. Before I tell you what it is you should know that my reasoning was that I wanted to make myself as big a target as possible for scum after today. You see, I can only daykill once. After that I'm a nilla. I dunno if total could have recharged my power or not, but at this point that's moot. So yeah, I can only daykill once, my hope was that I would use it on hopefully a scum, PFK, or 3rd party, then the scum would waste their NK on me. I'm coming clean now because the rash of claims have presented much juicier targets for scum, and I no longer think they will end up targetting me. I also don't want anyone to waste a potential protection on me. I figure I'll probably hit the top of the lynch charts now, I would vote me. I fully subscribe to LAL. However, if I am destined for the gallows, I need to know who to use my daykill on before I go.
2. In attempting to read the thread from my iPhone I somehow managed to accidentally ignore Ed. How do I under this?
3. I forget. I'll check back later tonight and hopefully have more for y'all.
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Day 2
Mar 4, 2010 0:56:39 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 4, 2010 0:56:39 GMT -5
You could always use me to cancel out Meeko's kill tonight too.
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Day 2
Mar 4, 2010 1:03:20 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 4, 2010 1:03:20 GMT -5
Re: Day kill questions « Message sent Yesterday at 10:01pm » Yes, you can. Not sure why you'd want to, but you can if you do want to. Back to Top Logged Sorry, It's Day 1 and I'm acting stupid.
Game History
Current Record: 7-12 (Modded: 7, 4 Town wins and 3 Scum wins (Plus 2 survivor wins and a collector))
So I suppose that is another option if it is town's will. But right now the people I am most prepared to listen to in this regard are Ed, Red, and warily.... Meeko. Meeko because I think there was a minor handshake from Pede that makes me think he is more than likely town. Red because I believe his mason claim, and Ed because he was quick to catch that Red missed the lack of a wincon in the PMs. His speediness makes me believe he is also town.
I remember my #3 from two posts ago. I intend to unvot Red as soon as I am back on a comp. Tags are way too much effort from my phone right now.
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Day 2
Mar 4, 2010 4:36:42 GMT -5
Post by luvbwfc on Mar 4, 2010 4:36:42 GMT -5
Lots happening. Up to the end of page 2 i was ready to weigh in on a redskeezix lynch because of the wincon thing. I am still suspicious of him though. He could well be another 3rd party mason type, with a wincon.
Also I don't like his statement that all the other masons are defo town. How would he know this? Assuming that he is a mason and the role posts we have seen for him and Total are kosher for the sake of argument, all he knows for sure is that the other masons are not shills. They could still be some other flavour of anti-town.
On the paul thing. Given that he has a testable power, and said he was willing to use it as the group directed, why would we want to lynch him at this stage? People who voted him before his reveal about being a one-shot and having mislead us etc, why were you voting him.
Also, Meeko - who did you protect last night - can that person confirm being targeted at all?
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Day 2
Mar 4, 2010 6:41:58 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 4, 2010 6:41:58 GMT -5
I remember when we used to play this game. Not when we looked at playing, and then thought better of it, and just claimed in spite.
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Day 2
Mar 4, 2010 6:48:49 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 4, 2010 6:48:49 GMT -5
the formalities they do do me in unvote all vote drain - 3 vote ed - 2 vote paul - 1 As soon as someone can tell me EXACTLY what to do with all this information, I will oblige.
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