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Night 2
Mar 7, 2010 22:27:58 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Mar 7, 2010 22:27:58 GMT -5
I'm sorry that you're not happy with the game. I'm not trying to set anyone up, least of all you. <Edit: there was a lot of drama about how offended I am. Now cut out.> I'm done. I'll finish modding this game, but I am taking this entirely too seriously. You know what they say--when it stops being fun, stop playing the game. You are entirely correct, please sub me or mod-kill me. I should not have subbed into the game. My apologies to all. Well that is a bummer, sorry to see you asking to leave sinjin . I do have to say while I do see the odd thing overlooked by our mod, but let's face it we are all human and we all make mistakes. And I really hope you will not say screw it to moding pede after all I love your games. They are so creative and fun to play.
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Night 2
Mar 7, 2010 23:07:57 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 7, 2010 23:07:57 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I didn't know why people were talking about Roy until I looked at the starting post again. I saw the death reveal in red, and saw "roleblocker," and didn't notice the different name.
Would it be safe to say that scum have fake PMs? I don't know drain well enough to know how much she knows about classic (and somewhat obscure) Nintendo games, but I'm willing to guess that she didn't come up with that posted PM all by herself.
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Night 2
Mar 7, 2010 23:30:04 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 7, 2010 23:30:04 GMT -5
Dirx: I feel you are underestimating the skill of your opponents/ teammates. There aren't any bantams in this cock-fighting circle. I think it's safe to assume that whether or not scum were given role pms, everyone who signed up for this game is perfectly capable of crafting a plausible fake claim.
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Night 2
Mar 7, 2010 23:37:29 GMT -5
Post by MentalGuy on Mar 7, 2010 23:37:29 GMT -5
I am sorry I was not around for the end of the Day. I spent the day with the family doing stuff, and thought I would be back online before the end of the Day, but didn't make it.
It would not have mattered anyway. After Inner flipped Town, I would have just been going along with the crowd and voted DrainBead.
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Post by luvbwfc on Mar 8, 2010 2:23:53 GMT -5
sorry for not being around this weekend. I had a friend visiting irl. Good job those who were around! 2 days and no mislynch. Wooo!
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 10:59:08 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Mar 8, 2010 10:59:08 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I didn't know why people were talking about Roy until I looked at the starting post again. I saw the death reveal in red, and saw "roleblocker," and didn't notice the different name. Would it be safe to say that scum have fake PMs? I don't know drain well enough to know how much she knows about classic (and somewhat obscure) Nintendo games, but I'm willing to guess that she didn't come up with that posted PM all by herself.This probably will end up getting more votes on me in some weird way. But yes, THIS. I Agree with Dirx. Wasn't he an unlockable in the original smash? A boy with a red hat? or something?
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 11:27:08 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 8, 2010 11:27:08 GMT -5
While my position on false claims, is that they don't play in as much as people assume. The fact that Drain changed her name but kept her ablities is far more telling.
Two possibilities:
Scum (or just drain) did not expect a name investigator. Scum believes there is some connection which could be unearthed between their collective names.
Furthermore, I'm still not liking Sister C's claim. There's a fine distinction between learning what someone's alignment and role are, and learning what their death reveal would say (Especially if the death reveal for a godfather is town).
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 12:37:52 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 8, 2010 12:37:52 GMT -5
While my position on false claims, is that they don't play in as much as people assume. The fact that Drain changed her name but kept her ablities is far more telling. Two possibilities: Scum (or just drain) did not expect a name investigator. Scum believes there is some connection which could be unearthed between their collective names. Furthermore, I'm still not liking Sister C's claim. There's a fine distinction between learning what someone's alignment and role are, and learning what their death reveal would say (Especially if the death reveal for a godfather is town). There's no functional difference if the game lacks any godfathers or millers, however. Her also claiming to not have an investigation from last Night is suspicious. Could there be a reason she's not giving us? a block? a redirect? a result she doesn't trust? (this paragraph is jsut rambling) If she's fake claiming, why didn't she just claim to have investigated Total or Cookies? If she's lying, why say she just forgot? It doesn't make sense for a Scum/fake claim to not give fake results. Of course, "Scum wouldn't do that" An investigator counter claiming toMorrow might change what we are thinking. I'd be willing to trade 1 to 1 for a Scum.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 14:13:10 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2010 14:13:10 GMT -5
While my position on false claims, is that they don't play in as much as people assume. The fact that Drain changed her name but kept her ablities is far more telling. Two possibilities: Scum (or just drain) did not expect a name investigator. Scum believes there is some connection which could be unearthed between their collective names. Furthermore, I'm still not liking Sister C's claim. There's a fine distinction between learning what someone's alignment and role are, and learning what their death reveal would say (Especially if the death reveal for a godfather is town). The thing is, drainbead didn't just change her role name, she also had very role-specific color in her posted PM (if I remember correctly, Balloon Fight was a contender for a secret character slot in the second game. When it was announced that the even more obscure Ice Climbers got it, the reaction was a collective "WTF?"). So either she really did her homework, or she was given the fake PM she posted. What I don't yet get is why. Whether she made it, or was given it, what's the point of changing the name in a game where names have been explicitly shown to have no bearing on alignment? And even if they did, Roy was a heroic character in his games. It doesn't seem to make any sense.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 14:56:50 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Mar 8, 2010 14:56:50 GMT -5
While my position on false claims, is that they don't play in as much as people assume. The fact that Drain changed her name but kept her ablities is far more telling. Two possibilities: Scum (or just drain) did not expect a name investigator. Scum believes there is some connection which could be unearthed between their collective names. Furthermore, I'm still not liking Sister C's claim. There's a fine distinction between learning what someone's alignment and role are, and learning what their death reveal would say (Especially if the death reveal for a godfather is town). The thing is, drainbead didn't just change her role name, she also had very role-specific color in her posted PM (if I remember correctly, Balloon Fight was a contender for a secret character slot in the second game. When it was announced that the even more obscure Ice Climbers got it, the reaction was a collective "WTF?"). So either she really did her homework, or she was given the fake PM she posted. What I don't yet get is why. Whether she made it, or was given it, what's the point of changing the name in a game where names have been explicitly shown to have no bearing on alignment? And even if they did, Roy was a heroic character in his games. It doesn't seem to make any sense. Another point in this discussion is that Pede made it pretty clear he didn't standardize the town role PMs to make it easier on scum to false claim. If that's the case, then it doesn't make any sense that they were provided fake PMs.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 15:40:10 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Mar 8, 2010 15:40:10 GMT -5
PMs were standardized; my response was purely hypothetical. I was not here from before IS posted his role PM to after paulwhoisaghost Falcon Punched.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 18:14:18 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Mar 8, 2010 18:14:18 GMT -5
Pede: I offer you my sincere and humble apology*. My post yesterday was unacceptable, unwarranted, rude, juvenile and a whole bunch of other adjectives you can add at your leisure.
I can't even begin to imagine how much work, time and effort it takes to host one of these games. Please do not let my bad behaviour sour you on modding again.
I also apologize to all the other players in the game.
*Driving alone for 300 miles tends to clear out my brain.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 18:44:58 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2010 18:44:58 GMT -5
and i see your point ed but ....
since the presence of one eliminates (to a great extent) the presence of the others that is helpful town information.
i am also a little leery of the whole forgot to submit my Night action. sis seems way too much of a conscientious player to do this. but if she were fake claiming i tend to believe that she would have made something up. so null tell to some extent although it does still smell more like the queen's stable rather than the queen's rose garden.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 19:03:29 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Mar 8, 2010 19:03:29 GMT -5
and i see your point ed but .... since the presence of one eliminates (to a great extent) the presence of the others that is helpful town information. i am also a little leery of the whole forgot to submit my Night action. sis seems way too much of a conscientious player to do this. but if she were fake claiming i tend to believe that she would have made something up. so null tell to some extent although it does still smell more like the queen's stable rather than the queen's rose garden. If I were fake claiming, I would definitely have come up with something -- an investigation on Ulla or Cookies, most likely. Because I do so love looking like an idiot. Really. Even good players have bad games, you know. And when I make a mistake (as in Blockey's aborted mirror-mini), it tends to be a real lulu. There's a fine distinction between learning what someone's alignment and role are, and learning what their death reveal would say (Especially if the death reveal for a godfather is town). Um. I said I learn their death reveal. You then asked me if I would get someone's alignment and role. Since we get alignment and role on someone's death, I said "that's one way of putting it." Because it is. But if you're trying to make a big deal out of my agreeing with your rephrasing of my role PM, which I quoted verbatim, well... ...that scent of manure's not coming from me.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 19:27:06 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 8, 2010 19:27:06 GMT -5
That was a more if you are telling the truth type statement. Although, it was right next to a statment expressing my suspicion of your claim in general, so I can see why you thought I meant it that way.
Let me clarify: If sister c is telling the truth, why does that role exist as opposed to a regular cop? Is it a hint that there might be something wonky with the death reveals?
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 19:44:09 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Mar 8, 2010 19:44:09 GMT -5
That was a more if you are telling the truth type statement. Although, it was right next to a statment expressing my suspicion of your claim in general, so I can see why you thought I meant it that way. Let me clarify: If sister c is telling the truth, why does that role exist as opposed to a regular cop? Is it a hint that there might be something wonky with the death reveals? Ah. That makes much more sense, and that's a scary thought (there being something wonky about the death reveals). Though that would seem rather bastardly, wouldn't it?
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 19:49:13 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 8, 2010 19:49:13 GMT -5
That was a more if you are telling the truth type statement. Although, it was right next to a statment expressing my suspicion of your claim in general, so I can see why you thought I meant it that way. Let me clarify: If sister c is telling the truth, why does that role exist as opposed to a regular cop? Is it a hint that there might be something wonky with the death reveals? In looking back over it, could it just be a regular cop, but it's tied into the color? I looked up Merlon on several Nintendo type wikis, but nothing really about predicting the future, but he is a wizard type thing. But, anyway, I wouldn't put it past pede to color something that way. The original game had an inventor who had those pikmin things. I was a ole blocker King Dedede who had wedle dipshits or something to go do the blocking. Anyway, it just occurred to me that I want to get all the role claims together. I'm off! on a fact-finding mission! I shall return!
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 19:54:30 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2010 19:54:30 GMT -5
i thought merlon was the fucker who floated around in clouds and threw those damn spiky koppa looking dudes you. even though you couldn't eat 'em and shit them out as eggs.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 19:56:32 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2010 19:56:32 GMT -5
That would be Lakitu.
(I'm a shameless Nintendo geek)
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 20:14:41 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Mar 8, 2010 20:14:41 GMT -5
That would be Lakitu. (I'm a shameless Nintendo geek) I'm glad somebody is, because fuck if I know.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 20:22:25 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Mar 8, 2010 20:22:25 GMT -5
Long-time players on this board will appreciate the fact that I got a Scum Roleblocker role for about the umpteenth time here. And every time I get the role, I'm the first Scum to die. I'm cursed.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 20:23:30 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Mar 8, 2010 20:23:30 GMT -5
That was a more if you are telling the truth type statement. Although, it was right next to a statment expressing my suspicion of your claim in general, so I can see why you thought I meant it that way. Let me clarify: If sister c is telling the truth, why does that role exist as opposed to a regular cop? Is it a hint that there might be something wonky with the death reveals? Ah. That makes much more sense, and that's a scary thought (there being something wonky about the death reveals). Though that would seem rather bastardly, wouldn't it? like i said here or elsewhere (Don't quite remember), the town cop in screamers was a death miller, and i don't believe that was a bastard game. So I'm thinking that its not likely, but i'm not closing that door just yet.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 20:27:54 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 8, 2010 20:27:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure this will help, but I'd like to have everything handy in one spot to look at later on. Please let me know if I forgot anyone.
Also, please remember that paul omitted part of his role PM, and redskeezix redacted part of his.
Also, peeker has claimed Mason, but he hasn't posted his role.
The dead players for whom we don't have a role PM are: BillMc, Kirby, 3rd party Serial Killer Cookies, Fox, Town Lynchee fluiddruid, Peach, Town Weak Doc/Lover Drainbead, Roy, Scum Roleblocker (but we have a fake PM)
Dead players with a role PM: Inner Stickler, Bowser, Town Paranoid Doc/Avenger (partial claim) Total Lost, Samus, 3rd party Lyncher/Mason (provided by redskeezix)
Meeko:
paul:
mentalguy:
redskeezix:
Sister Coyote:
Total Lost:
Inner Stickler:
and even the fake one from Drain too, I guess:
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 20:44:44 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2010 20:44:44 GMT -5
That would be Lakitu. (I'm a shameless Nintendo geek) well was he the dude that threw the triangle square and circle spell at you that would cause baby mario to start crying like a stuck pig. floating away and shit. then you had to hit him with your toungue and the timer would start up again.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 21:05:10 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2010 21:05:10 GMT -5
ok, i'll stir the shit a bit. fake pm's are best by just tweaking the real ones a touch and then changing alignment.
wonder why paul and mental have a 1. with nothing else listed? seems kind of opalish.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 21:10:46 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2010 21:10:46 GMT -5
That would be Lakitu. (I'm a shameless Nintendo geek) well was he the dude that threw the triangle square and circle spell at you that would cause baby mario to start crying like a stuck pig. floating away and shit. then you had to hit him with your toungue and the timer would start up again. Uhhhh.... I guess my geek membership card is a bit out of date. I didn't get to play the SNES mario games much. Could the baddie you're talking about maybe be Kamek?
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 21:12:25 GMT -5
Post by special on Mar 8, 2010 21:12:25 GMT -5
mental guy's magnetic gloves. It says they can be used on living players and corpses.
Bill died and his body turned into something metal, didn't it?
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 21:21:25 GMT -5
Post by Dirx on Mar 8, 2010 21:21:25 GMT -5
From the opening post of Day 2: Is it a game mechanic, or someone's Night action? There is a robot in Smash Bros.: R.O.B. (third game). Never did anything that could be construed as turning anyone or anything into robots, though. Character is based on a robotic toy controlled by the NES. Could this be related to the trophy mechanic of the previous game? What did that do?
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 21:31:01 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Mar 8, 2010 21:31:01 GMT -5
ed would be a better resource than i. but as the godfather i had some sort of trophy gun. but it functioned pretty much as a normal scum NK. i think if i would have trophified some specific person i got like a kewpie doll bonus. but shit, i just wanted to get my hands dirty when i used it. also, to kind of fuck with town.
yeh, and you are right about kamek. just showing my age is all, just showing my age.
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Night 2
Mar 8, 2010 21:48:21 GMT -5
Post by MentalGuy on Mar 8, 2010 21:48:21 GMT -5
ok, i'll stir the shit a bit. fake pm's are best by just tweaking the real ones a touch and then changing alignment. wonder why paul and mental have a 1. with nothing else listed? seems kind of opalish. Mine has a 1 with nothing else listed because that is what I received. I have posted the entire PM.
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