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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 20:38:00 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Apr 10, 2010 20:38:00 GMT -5
Darth Sensitive, AKA "THE MILLION DOLLAR MAN" TED DIBIASE, a heel and VOTE BUYER, failed to get the hot tag and is taken out of the match.
It's now Day 3. Day three will go until Thursday at 3pm Natlaw is now in the game. Have fun!
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 20:54:30 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 10, 2010 20:54:30 GMT -5
I'd have to wager that Natlaw is Vanilla Town.
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 21:06:59 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 10, 2010 21:06:59 GMT -5
and holy crap! we got a heel last Night!
I assume that perhaps the heels tried to get me and I was protected..or whoever they tried to kill was protected
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 21:48:43 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 10, 2010 21:48:43 GMT -5
1. Cookies 2. BillMc 3. Luv 4. CoyoteSister 5. Dorian 6. Boozy 7. Shaggy 8. Special Ed 9. Pleonast 10. Fisheroo 11. NAF 12. Natlaw
2. peekercpa = SHAWN MICHAELS, FACE. 3. Nanook = MANKIND, FACE. 8. Darth = TED DIBIASE, HEEL VOTE BUYER 11. Clockwork = HULK HOGAN, FACE.
Vote Analysis:
Day 1:
Clockwork (4) Pleonast (55 69) Dorian (100), Shaggy (101), peeker (102), Darth Sensitive (108) Pleonast (3) Special Ed (96), Cookies (98) BillMc (99) Sister Coyote (1) Pleonast (69), fisheroo (103) Peeker (1) NAF (59 120), Boozahol (112) Dorian (1) luvbfwc (97) fisheroo (1) NAF (112) Darth Sensitive (0) luvbfwc (37 42) Not Voting (3) Sister Coyote, Nanook, Clockwork Not Participating (1) Natlaw
Clockwork is lynched
Night 1:
Peeker is killed
Day 2:
Nanook (4) shaggy (36) Sister Coyote (40), NAF (43), Pleonast (75) Pleonast (2) Cookies (59), Special Ed (84) Boozahol (2) Dorian (69), Pleonast (75 75), Darth Sensitive (78) Sister Coyote (1) Pleonast (23 23), Pleonast (34 75), fisheroo (60) Dorian (1) luvbfwc (7), Pleonast (23 34) fisheroo (0) NAF (16 43) BillMc (0) Pleonast (75 75) Not Voting (3) BillMc, Boozahol, Nanook Not Participating (1) Natlaw
Nanook is lynched
Night 2:
Darth Sensitive is killed
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 21:50:24 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 10, 2010 21:50:24 GMT -5
Vote Pleonast[/color]
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 22:31:19 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 10, 2010 22:31:19 GMT -5
I hate this part. Wondering if I should have just kept my mouth shut a little longer, maybe I could have survived, harassment free, for a few more Days and gotten some more results. But some of my results leave me dubious, and this will at least give us something to talk about instead of pissing each other off with weak shit, so I think transparency is best.
I am an alignment investigator aligned with the Town/Faces. If my character name is demanded, I'll give it.
I have targeted fisheroo with my powers for two nights in a row, and both times my powers were redirected onto another player for whom I was delivered results instead. The redirection may be random (I can't see how a scum fisheroo would choose a fellow scum to receive a night action instead) or it indicates that fisheroo is a Third Party who doesn't know who is face or heel and has just been picking people other than himself.
On Night 1, I learned that luv is a face.
Last night, I learned that NAF is a heel.
fisheroo may have some sort of passive deflective power, or someone has targeted me for redirection two nights in a row. I'm thinking the first is more likely, but the second option still bothered me enough to claim now.
We'll have to see where the dust settles on fisheroo, but we now have a heel to lynch to both advance the face win condition, and confirm me and luv as much as possible without needing either of us to die.
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 22:32:48 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 10, 2010 22:32:48 GMT -5
Whoops, for got to Vote: NAF .
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 22:38:39 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Apr 10, 2010 22:38:39 GMT -5
Well first Hello and welcome to the game Netlaw . And I do agree the most probable thing is he is a vanilla, I think at the same time we may not want to soleyl think so and end up screwed in the end. But yes that is the most probable thing.
Also YEAH!!!!! We got a heel/scum and the vote buyer. That is great.
I would also suspect as well that the scum or heels did not get there kill in because of being protected. However playing devils advocate and me being the typical over thinker I am, have to say you never know there are the "secret roles" which we never know they could be a role blocker or maybe a redirector that redirected the scum kill back onto the scum. So while the logical answer is protection, and that is what I assume really did happen, I would not discount anything here. Or that is my over thinking/conspiricy thoerist mind for you.
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 22:43:23 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 10, 2010 22:43:23 GMT -5
I hate this part. Wondering if I should have just kept my mouth shut a little longer, maybe I could have survived, harassment free, for a few more Days and gotten some more results. But some of my results leave me dubious, and this will at least give us something to talk about instead of pissing each other off with weak shit, so I think transparency is best. I am an alignment investigator aligned with the Town/Faces. If my character name is demanded, I'll give it. I have targeted fisheroo with my powers for two nights in a row, and both times my powers were redirected onto another player for whom I was delivered results instead. The redirection may be random (I can't see how a scum fisheroo would choose a fellow scum to receive a night action instead) or it indicates that fisheroo is a Third Party who doesn't know who is face or heel and has just been picking people other than himself. On Night 1, I learned that luv is a face. Last night, I learned that NAF is a heel. fisheroo may have some sort of passive deflective power, or someone has targeted me for redirection two nights in a row. I'm thinking the first is more likely, but the second option still bothered me enough to claim now. We'll have to see where the dust settles on fisheroo, but we now have a heel to lynch to both advance the face win condition, and confirm me and luv as much as possible without needing either of us to die. This simple game is getting more complex. A Scum Vote Buyer An apparent Vigilante A Redirection power (Unless there's an additional redirection power) But, for now, I'm willing to Unvote Pleonastthough I still think he's Scum and Vote NAFeither cookies is honest or she's a)given herself up to lynch NAF or b) is bussing NAF for cred That seems unlikely, since a counterclaim is likely to come if she's lying. I'd like to hear from NAF, but I'd especially like to hear from fisheroo
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 22:43:57 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 10, 2010 22:43:57 GMT -5
oops
vote NAF[/color]
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Day 3
Apr 10, 2010 22:55:57 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Apr 10, 2010 22:55:57 GMT -5
While pendng what NAF has to say I am going to also VOTE NAF
I certainly would also like to hear from Fisheroo since it would seem odd, that unles they knew who you were, that a redirector would pick you 2 times in a row. Maybe she is a userper like my wife was in the FB game of the labyrinth...a person who when directed with power redirects it automatically onto a random other player...dunno just thinking it would explain it.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 2:40:02 GMT -5
Post by DorianPhoenix on Apr 11, 2010 2:40:02 GMT -5
Um, if there's a redirector, do we think that it affects one person, like cookies or fisheroo, or do we think it affects all night actions? Could the scum have killed their own due to the redirect? I only float this because no scum kill and no multiple kills on previous nights implies that there's only one night kill and that it's at least as possible as a vig.
So yeah, "one or two other, secret roles" seems to have been a slight understatement eh?
VOTE NAF because it's the best we have to go on right now.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 3:16:17 GMT -5
Post by luvbwfc on Apr 11, 2010 3:16:17 GMT -5
vote NAF
go claimed detective go
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 6:05:42 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Apr 11, 2010 6:05:42 GMT -5
Sorry for the lack of participation in Day2 - work is rather hectic. So Luv was correct in Day 1 that Darth did make a slipI think this is the state of play 1. Cookies - claimed Cop2. peekercpa - Shawn Michaels, Face Mason. KILLED NIGHT13. Nanook - Mankind, Face. LYNCHED DAY24. BillMc 5. Luv - Face by Cookies investigation (N1)6. CoyoteSister 7. Dorian 8. Darth Sensitive - Ted Bibiase - Heel Vote Buyer - KILLED NIGHT 29. Boozy 10. Shaggy 11. Clockwork - Hulk Hogan, Face. LYNCHED DAY112. Special Ed - claimed Mason13. Pleonast - claimed vanilla face Night 014. Fisheroo - redirector? - hypothesis by Cookies investigation15. NAF - Heel by Cookies investigation (N2)16. Natlaw If Fisheroo is redirecting randomly, then it is quite possible that the scum tried to kill him, and were redirected randomly to Darth. If he is explicitly redirecting then that means not only was the scum killed blocked, but we have another killing party. Given no additional kill on N1, unlikely to be a SK, so possibly a town vig. So I'm willing to trust Cookies investigation results - but we need to hear from Fisheroo. Vote: NAF
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 6:06:43 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Apr 11, 2010 6:06:43 GMT -5
If Fisheroo is redirecting randomly, then it is quite possible that the scum tried to kill him, and were redirected randomly to Darth. HER even.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 15:36:39 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Apr 11, 2010 15:36:39 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px;">I'd have to wager that Natlaw is Vanilla Town. Can you spell it out for me? I think with both Nanook's role and mine being there from the star tand all the extra roles coming out not sure why the bet is on vanilla. Although me being face seems a safer bet - presumably scum would have noticed if one of them was missing... Well first Hello and welcome to the game Netlaw . And I do agree the most probable thing is he is a vanilla, I think at the same time we may not want to soleyl think so and end up screwed in the end. But yes that is the most probable thing. Same question for you. And it is N Atlaw, thanks .
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 15:40:39 GMT -5
Post by special on Apr 11, 2010 15:40:39 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px;">I'd have to wager that Natlaw is Vanilla Town. Can you spell it out for me? I think with both Nanook's role and mine being there from the star tand all the extra roles coming out not sure why the bet is on vanilla. Although me being face seems a safer bet - presumably scum would have noticed if one of them was missing... A couple of reasons. 1. I know you are not a Mason 2. The Scum would have noticed had they been low on numbers. 3. If you were the Cop, you would have counterclaimed Cookies already. 4. If you were the Doc, I'd probably be dead.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 15:45:19 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Apr 11, 2010 15:45:19 GMT -5
Also YEAH!!!!! We got a heel/scum and the vote buyer. That is great. I would also suspect as well that the scum or heels did not get there kill in because of being protected. However playing devils advocate and me being the typical over thinker I am, have to say you never know there are the "secret roles" which we never know they could be a role blocker or maybe a redirector that redirected the scum kill back onto the scum. So while the logical answer is protection, and that is what I assume really did happen, I would not discount anything here. Or that is my over thinking/conspiricy thoerist mind for you. It could be mason Ed was attacked and protected - but rereading it's cop, doc, x masons and one or two extra roles. The one and two would be vote buyer and fishy fisheroo, so there is no room for a vigilante. Unless Idle only listed town roles? (I see now why I'm likely vanilla, most power roles are taken . If no vigilante, it looks to me everyone targeted fisheroo and all got redirected randomly. But that seems a serious powerful town role and frankly reminds me of SSBM where my scum lover was untargetable at Night and two scum claimed to report that (that gambit won the game for them).
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 15:47:07 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Apr 11, 2010 15:47:07 GMT -5
either cookies is honest or she's a)given herself up to lynch NAF or b) is bussing NAF for cred There is also the possibilty that she didn't just get redirected and got a completely random result, but for now: Vote: NAF
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 15:50:44 GMT -5
Post by luvbwfc on Apr 11, 2010 15:50:44 GMT -5
So Luv was correct in Day 1 that Darth did make a slipDo you know, I don't think there was a slip. Just my misunderstanding. When Darth said he wasn't sure if hischaracter was currently a face or not, he was talking about the irl guy, not his in game persona.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 16:08:56 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Apr 11, 2010 16:08:56 GMT -5
Reading through the game, luckily not that long. It starts Day Zero with: Pleo is never vanilla. Except vanilla scum. Vote: Pleonast Why didn't you follow up with this Day One? You discussed heel/face stuff and then when the rest commented on Pleonast's claim, you said nothing. Interesting, Pleonast gets three votes and then Dorian, shaggy, peeker and Darth vote clockwork. Now you come in and mention you don't like Pleonast post-timing-metagame, but vote peeker. No mention of the vanilla claim which I presume you didn't like with the Day Zero vote. So that two point against him but you don't vote him?
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 16:17:24 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Apr 11, 2010 16:17:24 GMT -5
I dislike this game. This is two nights in a row where the scum have not been able to kill the intended target because of a redirector who changes all actions. We were supposed to kill pleo night one and cookies last night.
On top of this idle has essentially added a confirmed townie to the game by letting in natlaw.
I'm kinda done with this one guys. Please sign up for the malazab game that's up next. I fully expect this game to be done in another night or two.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 16:30:07 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Apr 11, 2010 16:30:07 GMT -5
Ouch, yeah I suppose you're right - I didn't think of that scum would have noticed one of them missing (unless the names weren't in the PM) when I told Idle to only put me in if it didn't screw the balance.
Day Two re-read didn't reveal much, mostly lynch the lurkers.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 16:52:47 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 11, 2010 16:52:47 GMT -5
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 17:56:09 GMT -5
Post by fisheroo on Apr 11, 2010 17:56:09 GMT -5
Been gone all day, I thought night was supposed to end today, not yesterday.
How many scum do we think would be in this game setup?
I'll be back after dinner. Give me time to digest some food, and digest the game so far.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 18:00:23 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Apr 11, 2010 18:00:23 GMT -5
NAF - 8 votes
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 19:00:21 GMT -5
Post by fisheroo on Apr 11, 2010 19:00:21 GMT -5
I am Vince McMahon. I can control anyone's night actions. My wincon is I win when I stay alive long enough that one or the other faction wins. In this case, I chose town.
Cookies is a legit investigator, and I highly doubt she is a scum investigator. Although I wonder why she targeted me, and twice.
So, let's recap, shall we?
1. Cookies - [blue]claimed Cop-very probable [/blue] 2. peekercpa - [blue]Shawn Michaels, Face Mason. [/blue] [red]KILLED NIGHT1[/red] 3. Nanook - [blue]Mankind, Face. LYNCHED DAY2[/blue] 4. BillMc 5. Luv - [blue]Face by Cookies investigation (N1)again very probable[/blue] 6. CoyoteSister 7. Dorian 8. Darth Sensitive - [red]Ted Bibiase - Heel Vote Buyer - KILLED NIGHT 2[/red] (What is a vote buyer?) 9. Boozy 10. Shaggy 11. Clockwork - [blue]Hulk Hogan, Face. LYNCHED DAY1[/blue] 12. Special Ed - [blue]claimed Mason[/blue] No counter claim, but she's said some odd things, dunno about her. 13. Pleonast - [blue]claimed vanilla face Night 0[/blue]-I think he is, if only because he was targeted by scum 14. Fisheroo - [purple]Vince McMahon-PFK[/purple] 15. NAF - [red]Heel by Cookies investigation (N2)[red] I believe cookies 16. Natlaw-probable town
By my count, after the lynch of NAF today, that only leaves 6 unknowns. Very unlikely that 1, maybe 2 scum can win under normal circumstances. With me in the game, no chance.
I will accept a concession from scum.
Oh, and NAF was deliberately wrong-scum targeted Pleo both nights. Not sure why he'd lie, but if scum was curious as to my power, now they know.
[blue]Vote NAF[/blue]
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 19:11:24 GMT -5
Post by DorianPhoenix on Apr 11, 2010 19:11:24 GMT -5
Ridiculous
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 19:55:16 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Apr 11, 2010 19:55:16 GMT -5
Well first Hello and welcome to the game Netlaw . And I do agree the most probable thing is he is a vanilla, I think at the same time we may not want to soleyl think so and end up screwed in the end. But yes that is the most probable thing. Same question for you. And it is N Atlaw, thanks . Sorry sometimes when I get typing quick my finger make a slip. I did not mean to spell your name wrong. As for the why probably I think you and others have basically spelled it out...combined with our caught scum has basically said now your not on the scum team, along now with Pleo. So essentially that acutally leaves us what? 1) BillMC 2) CoyoteSister 3) Dorian 4) Boozy 5) and me Of which 3 are most probably town and 1 or 2 most probably scum. So with only 2-3 of us...That is not much of a pool left, which is great. Since Fisheroo I think when you said 6 you forgot the NAF comment of one basically mod confirmed town player...so there for we really only have 5 left. After all I generally assume the scum is the square root of all players. So if we had 16, then scum is 4...now with what i assume being a survivor role of you, that mean there could possible be only 3. But since survivor roles are usually not worth anything..redirectors though are...but still hard to say for sure. My gut would be play as if 4 but hope 3. Though with NAF saying possible tomorrow or the next day leads me to believe there is 2 others. Other wise it would be simply "probably" tomorrow for the game being over. But who knows just geussing here and throwing out my 2 cents worth.
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Day 3
Apr 11, 2010 19:58:18 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Apr 11, 2010 19:58:18 GMT -5
Game's over. Read the two new threads I have made. The spoiler board is now open.
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