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Post by fisheroo on Apr 28, 2010 6:56:38 GMT -5
This is coming across wrong. I am not defending ducduc-God knows he deserves to be lynched. When I asked him where he was, he said he didn't really like this, and maybe he should come back and vote for himself.
He is a contrary asshole, has been for years, I don't expect change any time soon, and there is nothing I can do about it.
I'm just worried about numbers for town. But if he isn't participating at all, and I doubt if he will any more at this point, it doesn't really matter.
Blech, should've kept my mouth shut.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 28, 2010 9:25:50 GMT -5
Usually I am pretty good, but some of the logic is so bizarre in this particular game, it is throwing me off. Like what? Being specific about that sort of thing helps.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 28, 2010 9:36:02 GMT -5
Cool. Take me out. Remember how I can only play in the winter because I am too busy? I thought I could squeeze this game in, and I thought it'd be cool if ducduc would play, too. Neither of these things happened the way I anticipated. I am VT. And the reason I think ducduc is town is I can read him pretty well, even in type. I think he would have played more if he was scum. Interestingly enough, there seems to be a lot of blatant illogical thinking when you guys are voting and pointing fingers. And everyone seems to be ok with that. Town is probably going to lose this one. Scum is hiding in plain sight. ok fishy i'll nibble. first, i am not giving you any grief about ducky. for goodness sakes i can get pretty prickly with ed (and vice versa) but i'd be the first to piss on him if he was on fire, dontchaknow. so you make a statement about "illogical thinking" and "hiding in plain sight". it might be helpful if you were a little more specific. what is illogical? and who are the scum hiding in plain sight? i mean seriously i don't want to turn anyone away from this game (more is better and too much is perfect). and you seem to be kind of astute so put it down. i might not agree but i will certainly read. same with ducky, shoot all he needs to do is show up and participate/contribute.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 28, 2010 9:40:02 GMT -5
Usually I am pretty good, but some of the logic is so bizarre in this particular game, it is throwing me off. Like what? Being specific about that sort of thing helps. oh noes. day 2 of the NAF and peek show. one of us really needs to get a day job or at least one that restricts internet access.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 28, 2010 11:46:22 GMT -5
Like what? Being specific about that sort of thing helps. oh noes. day 2 of the NAF and peek show. one of us really needs to get a day job or at least one that restricts internet access. No, I have to actually work today. I only get one day or so a month when I can reasonably not do much work. I feel like I have said all I have to say on the current subjects on the table. I'll check back if it looks like anyone new is contributing.
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Post by zuma on Apr 28, 2010 13:56:51 GMT -5
I am not defending ducduc-God knows he deserves to be lynched. vote: fisheroo[/color] You were not on my radar, but you despite claiming there are logical flaws going on here, declared that you have a "very strong suspicion" that ducduc is town. Then this: Was the whole pleo thumbing his nose at the game thing not enough? Nobody is to blame for the pleo situation except hmself. Then this: You panic after one vote? And you ask how many lynches we have left? It is 7-2 (I'm not down with NAF's 2 scum thing, I find 3 likely). So that means we have 2 mislynches. I played with you fish in the last game, but you're playing very different this game, which worries me.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 28, 2010 14:25:11 GMT -5
I think ducduc is town is I can read him pretty well, even in type. I think he would have played more if he was scum. I am not defending ducduc-God knows he deserves to be lynched. <snipped all to heck> ok, we need to go back to parchesi for me. first NAF votes for pleo being convinced that not only is he town but he is also a doc. now fishy thinks ducky is town but "god knows he deserves to be lynched" (sic, et al, etc.) i think we are supposed to lynch scum, folks (or in my case i advocate taking out the non players who are really worse than scum, ymmv). just my two cents on how the game ought to be played from my townie perspective.
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Post by fisheroo on Apr 28, 2010 16:45:50 GMT -5
I'll be in airports all day tomorrow, I'll try to give this a little more attention.
peek, I said "God knows he deserves to be lynched" in regards to his non participation. You'll note I didn't vote for him.
Just like I expressed my irritation with Pleo-yet you'll note I didn't vote for him, either. Even though he was begging for it.
I vote for who I think is scum, not who is playing poorly.
I said this before- I always try to keep numbers up for town (this is why I never jump on bandwagons for the sake of bandwagons)-gives us more room for HONEST mistakes, not STUPID mistakes.
And Zuma, speaking of playing differently, where ya been, boyo? Mr. talkative/analysis guy has been awfully quiet. No lists, no nothing.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 28, 2010 22:26:37 GMT -5
after i killed the cricket it was just me an the piano player. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj6_5qWZCDYeven if you don't like classical and ignoring the fact that he was mad as a hatter it's still pretty cool.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 29, 2010 11:15:20 GMT -5
vote count?
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 11:53:57 GMT -5
well its unoficial but here is what i've got.
shaggy 1 - NAF ducduc 1 - moi zuma 1 - cookies fishy 2 - ed and zuma
and of the 69 replies toDay NAF and i are 42.
ducduc hasn't posted a thing. lwanderingluv[/v] and story have 1. cookies has 2 and ed 3.
and in the interest of full disclosure fishy has 5, shaggy has 6 and z has 7.
and by the by, our mod has 3 as well.
so it's neck and neck (so to speak) coming down to the wire.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 11:56:30 GMT -5
and how come you don't a freaking chance to preview unless you quote someone else?
or am i just like dipshit retarded when it comes to this board?
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 12:06:26 GMT -5
non voters are ducduc, shaggy, fishy and wanderingluv.
if there are two scum left, which i believe the case to be, they could freaking toss it to wherever they want at this point. but, of course, then we nab 'em so maybe that would be a good outcome.
just my two cents.
and crap story is dead so that could explain his lack of participation.
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Post by zuma on Apr 29, 2010 12:54:46 GMT -5
cookies, you've voted for me twice. Once because you were glad to see me back, and once because I made a joke vote on NAF. Care to offer some real analysis and cast a real vote? you've been flying under the radar a bit here.
luv is also someone to poke a bit.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 29, 2010 13:37:48 GMT -5
I voted for you the first time to prompt participation and the second to try and prompt some vote accountability. I'm just fine being held accountable for voting for you twice and I'm also fine with leaving my vote where it is for now.
It is also entertaining that you are poking at people.
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Post by zuma on Apr 29, 2010 13:53:39 GMT -5
Fair enough. If you're not happy with my reasoning for my vote, I guess I can't please everyone. Although I think I provided more reasons for mine than you did yours.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 15:12:16 GMT -5
so we've got 6 - 8 hours to go.
roughly half of the folks don't even have a vote down. and apparantly that is otie dotie.
crud we've got 1 person with zero posts and another with 1 (i mean story has been as active as 20 percent of the players and he is dead, fgs).
i guess not posting or participating is a viable strategy to getting to late mid/end game.
sign up and walk away for a month or so and you should be good to go.
fuck this shit.
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Post by shaggy on Apr 29, 2010 15:53:58 GMT -5
Well for my vote today, I was going to vote NAF since I do not like the last minute switch vote yesterday, and for me I am not buying the reason. Also I think the whole case on me which and I know I am bias here but it stinks to high heaven. Pings me like someone trying to create or force suspicioun out there. A bad habbit I have seen get people caught in the past.
However I think for today i am going to go for who I am even more thinking could be a scum.
I voted yesterday for what I saw as a poor vote, then you come in and say we are going to loose cause we are thinking and acting badly, also say the scum are hiding in plain site, yet you offer no thoughts on who you think is scum. Better question is how are you so certain that they are hiding in plain site? I mean for all we know they could be the lurkers or they could not be. So to me this just pings big time for me.
I am going to Vote Fisheroo
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 29, 2010 16:07:24 GMT -5
Third vote. Interesting.
I know...I know. Self fulfilling prophecy, confirmation bias, all that jazz. Still. Third vote.
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Post by special on Apr 29, 2010 16:30:09 GMT -5
so we've got 6 - 8 hours to go. roughly half of the folks don't even have a vote down. and apparantly that is otie dotie. crud we've got 1 person with zero posts and another with 1 (i mean story has been as active as 20 percent of the players and he is dead, fgs). i guess not posting or participating is a viable strategy to getting to late mid/end game. sign up and walk away for a month or so and you should be good to go. fuck this shit. For the record, when signing up for Idle's original game, I was clear that I would be posting less. I've abandoned my poke and prod style which generates a lot of noise, (and I feel a lot of information) to play a more reactionary style.
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 29, 2010 16:51:08 GMT -5
Noise is better than nothing Ed. IF Peek's numbers are right this Day would be about 1 page long if it weren't for me and him.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 17:04:55 GMT -5
Third vote. Interesting. I know...I know. Self fulfilling prophecy, confirmation bias, all that jazz. Still. Third vote. hee hee, NAF you are cracking me up this go round. i'm leaving my vote exactly where it is. fishy has indicated that ducduc is an asshole and will probably not be participating in the future. i see no reason to change. unless our new mantra is not "lynch lurkers" but instead "oh, they are fucking lurking/not participating so therefore we don't touch them". that could be a real bad precedent on a go forward basis. get a scum or third party role - shit just don't do jack and therefore they win. fishy had a shitty vote yesterday. i think we all agree with that. but now we lynch his ass and we still have to deal with ducky tomorrow. why can't we just get rid of ducky and save fishy for tomorrow's discussion. shit he might even participate whereas ducky has gone fracking awol. and by his bud's admission, none the less.
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Post by fisheroo on Apr 29, 2010 17:19:55 GMT -5
Because you know, that would make more sense, peek.
And if there is anything missing in this game besides participation from half the players, it would be votes that make sense.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 17:25:05 GMT -5
Noise is better than nothing Ed. IF Peek's numbers are right this Day would be about 1 page long if it weren't for me and him. probably less. and ed do whatever it is you feel like you need to do but .... shit dude i expect more from you. when a game "stalls" i think it is incumbent on some of the more "veteran" folks to make an effort to keep the thing floating. i mean for goodness sakes post anything. if you really really think it is in town's best interest that total silence reign then, whatever. i don't agree, by the way. i mean that attitude is like a damn scum letting us self cannibalize.
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Post by fisheroo on Apr 29, 2010 17:27:13 GMT -5
I was going to vote ducduc, but I can't. I just can't vote for someone I think is town, even though he deserves it, and even though I think he's next in line, and perhaps I could switch the vote over from me.
I'm [blue]voting NAF.[/blue] There have been a couple of contradictions, and I think he is hiding in plain sight.
IRL I am in Miami, and will be in the Bahamas this weekend. Not sure of aircard reception, but I'll be back Monday either way-if y'all don't lynch me first.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 17:37:37 GMT -5
Because you know, that would make more sense, peek. And if there is anything missing in this game besides participation from half the players, it would be votes that make sense. and darnit fishy this is getting kind of annoying. i mean you come off like the prophet coming off of the mountain having talked to og. what in the world are you talking about? illogical? hiding in plain sight? votes that make sense? i mean shit, are you henry the wonder pig that foretells the future by snorfles? or do you just circle the ceiling fan and annoy the cats?
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Post by NAF1138 on Apr 29, 2010 17:43:34 GMT -5
I'm [blue]voting NAF.[/blue] There have been a couple of contradictions, and I think he is hiding in plain sight. You really need to explain yourself a little more here. I heartily disagree that there have been any contradictions, and I don't know what you mean by hiding in plain sight.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Apr 29, 2010 18:09:54 GMT -5
Unvote zuma[/color] Vote fisheroo[/color]
Voting for ducduc or not should be fairly straight forward based on your views on the lynch-the-lurker strategy, but you keep hemming and hawing about meta game reasons not to vote for him even though you think he deserves it.
That's the lion share of why I'm switching my vote. The vague and unsubstantiated statements you keep making just make it easier.
If only we had a Vig, then something potentially useful could be done with ducduc.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 18:25:09 GMT -5
i think we are making a big mistake. unless, my math is real bad i don't think we can afford to lynch fishy. i mean he might be scum and has been kind of random. unless we free pass ducky to the end we end up with scum having two votes (i posit) coming down to the end. since ducky is either not going to participate or have some real half ass insight having him be the swing vote in a close one would be bad, very bad. i don't know what fishy is but i'd rather get rid of random.org or whogivesashit.com.
my freaking two cents as usual.
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Post by peekercpa on Apr 29, 2010 18:34:10 GMT -5
neta: and at least he voted and participated. crappy vote and low participation is better than none and none in my book.
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