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Post by The Authors on Jun 20, 2010 19:02:19 GMT -5
Despite the terrible attrition that the Ascendants had undergone during the first four days of the Convergence, the fourth night on Assail was still rife with unveiled Warrens. Despite this, many had deceived themselves into believing that they understood exactly what powers they were facing, and how to deal with them.
Those illusions were dashed shortly before dawn. The sky had been lightening for nearly an hour when the entire city was once more plunged into utter darkness. The Ascendants were woken by the now-familiar creaking of that ancient wagons, the groans of slaves pulling a heavy burden and the ringing of their chains. All that was quickly drowned out by a terrified scream that was quickly cut short.
Some had believed that the disappearance of the sword was meaningless. Others had convinced themselves that whoever had acquired the sword did not mean any harm. One and all, they had been proven very wrong.
Honest Moley AKA T'riss, Queen of High House Life(Prophet), didn't see Dragnipur coming.
He was a member of Clan Stapler, Clan Emancipated, and The Vortex.
Clan Stapler was his Primary Clan.
This ends the fourth day of the Malazan Game of the Fallen.
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Post by The Authors on Jun 20, 2010 19:03:26 GMT -5
A prophet, by the way, is like a tracker except that Moley got his results at the 24-hour Night deadline, and had the ability to allow another player to change their Night action after the deadline.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 20, 2010 19:06:25 GMT -5
Awwwwwwwwwwwww ballsacks. Good game all!
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 20, 2010 19:15:41 GMT -5
So, mitchy, what'd poor Moley ever do to you?
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Post by Drain Bead on Jun 20, 2010 19:23:26 GMT -5
And just so everyone knows, moley tracked that mitchy was going to kill Cookies tonight. I blocked mitchy, obviously. Sadly, it didn't appear to do him any good.
Vote: vote moodymitchy
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 20, 2010 19:34:11 GMT -5
Killing me would not have been very nice of you, Moody. Vote Moody[/color] Feel like claiming any of the other deaths before you're hung?
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 20, 2010 21:50:04 GMT -5
And just so everyone knows, moley tracked that mitchy was going to kill Cookies tonight. I blocked mitchy, obviously. Sadly, it didn't appear to do him any good. Vote: vote moodymitchy [/color][/quote] ok, i am confused. you seem to be implying that moody had something to do with moley being dead. but if you blocked moody who was targeting cookies why is moley dead. or did i miss something while i was gone?
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Post by fisheroo on Jun 20, 2010 21:57:09 GMT -5
I wondered that myself.
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 20, 2010 22:14:29 GMT -5
[oog]
i just have to share this with you folks because it is so weird/funny/almost tragic.
so we go to baltimore last saturday. in leaving we can't find peekcat v 4.1.a (mrspeek's favorite). gotta go catch the plane. call peekkid#1 who is house sitting. keep a look out for cat and put up lost posters around the neighborhood. no cat no calls. mrspeek very upset. get back late friday. mrspeek calling for cat and really upset. opens the bottom drawer of her chest of drawers and here pops up peekcat v 4.1.a. she must have crawled in during the packing process. man she was hungry and thirsty and was real clingly for a while. but now she is back to normal. woot woot. peekcat v 3.3.b was also clingy when we got home. he went out and came back about an hour later with a dead squirrel that he dropped at our feet. couldn't tell whether he was pissed or just trying to bribe us into not ever taking another vacation.[/oog]
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 20, 2010 22:29:56 GMT -5
Aww. I love kitty stories with happy endings! I am a huge cat person, but was once an absent-minded child. My friends and I accidentally left a cat in an empty ice-chest with a lid that was sitting in the sun....for hours....while we were down at the river swimming. We had been playing with the cat and the open ice-chest, as it chased the pieces of grass we were playing with it with, playing peek-a-boo with it and it was a very trusting and well-loved kitty who was having fun with the game. We must have gotten distracted as children will get. It was a horrid awful thing to come back from the river to see the ice-chest and all three of us suddenly remembered. Poor kitty was soaked in sweat and panting but ran off and was ok. Scared the ever-living shit out of me and I can still evoke the squicky stomach to this day.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 21, 2010 1:40:15 GMT -5
Very interesting....so the metaclan - investigates Total, know nows she is the MotDD - tracks Mitch - knows that his intended target was Cookies - blocks Mitch - so he couldn't do anything - and then blames him for Moley's death obviously logic went out the window a long time ago - oh that's right, you are voting mitch because he isn't in the metaclan.
So someone other than Mitch killed Moley.
Options: - Total did it - whoever has the sword could use it for a night kill
And since it is in the death "didn't see Dragnipur coming."
Who ever killed Moley used the sword - Dragnnipur.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 21, 2010 1:40:50 GMT -5
Vote: Total for she is the MotDD and the whole metaclan knows that.
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Post by BillMc on Jun 21, 2010 1:46:58 GMT -5
And just so everyone knows, moley tracked that mitchy was going to kill Cookies tonight. I blocked mitchy, obviously. Sadly, it didn't appear to do him any good. Vote: vote moodymitchy [/color][/quote] Well if your block had not worked, Cookies would be dead. Your logic is totally flawed. Given the previous actions of Normal, I doubt that she was protecting Cookies last night, so possibly Cookies was the reason that Moley died. Killing me would not have been very nice of you, Moody. Vote Moody[/color] Feel like claiming any of the other deaths before you're hung?[/quote] Interesting, very interesting. You think Mitch is now a bigger threat than the MotDD - it was that little bit of inconsistent thinking that caught my attention with Total. Normal has already said she "arranged" the deaths of Red, Zuma, Cap. Story killed Zuma. Obviously Mitch killed Red; which Normal said she arranged. Normal redirected the N2 kill onto Timmy So your comment seems out of place Cookies - stating something to the rest of the metaclan that they all should have known. What are you trying to hide? Some secret powers you haven't shared with the rest of the Metaclan? Did you somehow kill Moley?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 21, 2010 1:57:08 GMT -5
If Moody tried to kill me last night as I am to understand, then yeah, he's a pretty damn big threat to me. If the MoDD has tried to kill me, no one has has seen fit let me know.
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Post by guiri on Jun 21, 2010 2:14:31 GMT -5
Yeah, well, I don't really see the logic that Moody was responsible for Moley's death. I don't see how Cookies was either. What was the MotDoD up to last Night?
If there's further proof that Total is the MotDoD, I'm happy to: Vote: Total Lost
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Post by BillMc on Jun 21, 2010 2:49:07 GMT -5
If Moody tried to kill me last night as I am to understand, then yeah, he's a pretty damn big threat to me. If the MoDD has tried to kill me, no one has has seen fit let me know. But you have your pet blocker, so Mitch isn't a threat to you. While clearly we all need the MotDD dead. We have no idea what powers the MotDD has, yet you still think a night kill which is blocked is still more dangerous than the MotDD. Did you already know that Total was the MotDD before last nights investigation?
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 21, 2010 6:52:42 GMT -5
Following up on Bill's accusations of yesterDay, I have investigated Total Lost, and found her to be an ordinary Ascend -
Nah, just kidding. She's totally the Master of the Deck.
As such, I will no longer defend Total. I would vote for her myself, but my stalker - who really ought to start thinking about how he's going to play this game when he can no longer focus exclusively on me - paid me another visit last Night, this time successfully, and I am not permitted to vote for her.
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Post by Renata on Jun 21, 2010 7:38:29 GMT -5
vote: Total Lost[/color]
Well done. And, grudgingly, also to Bill. *tips hat*
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Post by Renata on Jun 21, 2010 7:51:14 GMT -5
Bill, for cripes sake you have to allow at least a little time for information diffusion.
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Post by Renata on Jun 21, 2010 7:59:57 GMT -5
Normal has already said she "arranged" the deaths of Red, Zuma, Cap. Story killed Zuma. Obviously Mitch killed Red; which Normal said she arranged. Get that "arranged" out of quotes; I said I facilitated them, IIRC. In the case of Skeezix I was referring to my information on him being sufficient to nail him as about 99% sure HoC, and to Story pushing the accusation behind the scenes. I'm not sure if Mitchy heard the rumors or killed Skeez for other reasons; I discussed Skeez with him at one point, but IIRC that was afterward. Via Blockey, I suppose. Still not clear about that. Maybe Moody can share his intentions in public, if he's willing.
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 21, 2010 8:48:00 GMT -5
ok, that's enough of that.
vote total
give me the stinking address bill, or website or whatever.
i mean i'll wait until it's announced but i want to at least prepared to settle up.
and i'd still like to hear from drain and what the heck logic she was using to arrive at her conclusion.
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Post by The Authors on Jun 21, 2010 9:33:31 GMT -5
It has been brought to the Authors' attention that I(Rysto) once again forgot to list clan memberships in the Dawn post. I've fixed that.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 21, 2010 9:54:30 GMT -5
Too bad, moley. You had to pay the price for the players who wanted to lynch for grudges instead of their victory conditions, giving the MotDoD another Night to work. vote Total LostAs such, I will no longer defend Total. I would vote for her myself, but my stalker - who really ought to start thinking about how he's going to play this game when he can no longer focus exclusively on me - paid me another visit last Night, this time successfully, and I am not permitted to vote for her. Yep, that was me. I have no qualms about playing against a player I must eliminate to win. And once the MotDoD and the HoC are eliminated, I will work towards the last of my conditions: eliminating players not in my clan. I know, I know, my win conditions are confusing.
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 21, 2010 11:14:59 GMT -5
Too bad, moley. You had to pay the price for the players who wanted to lynch for grudges instead of their victory conditions, giving the MotDoD another Night to work. vote Total LostAs such, I will no longer defend Total. I would vote for her myself, but my stalker - who really ought to start thinking about how he's going to play this game when he can no longer focus exclusively on me - paid me another visit last Night, this time successfully, and I am not permitted to vote for her. Yep, that was me. I have no qualms about playing against a player I must eliminate to win. And once the MotDoD and the HoC are eliminated, I will work towards the last of my conditions: eliminating players not in my clan. I know, I know, my win conditions are confusing. ok, i just have to comment on this. to me it seems like there are exactly two folks in this game playing "grudges". you and bill. or maybe it is just sour grapes. everyone else that i have been in contact with seems to be pursuing their own objective, as it should be. matter of fact i have had some interesting conversations with folks that, to be totally open, i really have never even noticed before. this game seems to have a veritable plethora of options on how to arrive at your destination. the fact that some folks journey a different route than yours does not invalidate their actions or indicate that they are pursuing some sort of "grudge".
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 21, 2010 11:55:23 GMT -5
Vote: Total Ulla
All our win conditions are confusing, but mine is clear that I cannot win with the MotDD alive.
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Post by Pleonast on Jun 21, 2010 12:12:21 GMT -5
Too bad, moley. You had to pay the price for the players who wanted to lynch for grudges instead of their victory conditions, giving the MotDoD another Night to work. vote Total LostYep, that was me. I have no qualms about playing against a player I must eliminate to win. And once the MotDoD and the HoC are eliminated, I will work towards the last of my conditions: eliminating players not in my clan. I know, I know, my win conditions are confusing. ok, i just have to comment on this. to me it seems like there are exactly two folks in this game playing "grudges". you and bill. or maybe it is just sour grapes. everyone else that i have been in contact with seems to be pursuing their own objective, as it should be. matter of fact i have had some interesting conversations with folks that, to be totally open, i really have never even noticed before. this game seems to have a veritable plethora of options on how to arrive at your destination. the fact that some folks journey a different route than yours does not invalidate their actions or indicate that they are pursuing some sort of "grudge". Well, I don't know their win conditions, so maybe they did need to lynch MrBlockey. Let's look at the reasons given for voting him: drainbead D4.44 "And to that end, I'm going to vote an erratic and untrustworthy player, who I am aware has lied to two separate groups of people, and possibly more, and who also either has or controls a killing power." Total Lost D4.57 "Cause I'd like to" storyteller D4.79 "there is one player who has demonstrated - even explicitly stated - that he has no particular loyalty, no interest in adhering to his word, no interest in revealing truthful information about anyone or anything, no willingness to commit to anything other than being 'a creature of chaos'." nphase D4.84 " He's either a killer or controls one, and he's against me personally as well as by association. And I for one think he's at least as likely to be the MoDD as Ulla is." Cookies D4.98 "he's slippery, he's lied, he's threatened, he's back-stabbed, he's potentially very powerful, he's volatile, he's unpredictable." Moley D4.100 "BillMC suggests that TotalLost is under my radar. Not true. I'm not clanned with her, but I've heard enough "rumours" about her power. Same goes for Blockey. I don't think I've ever played a game where so much of my voting has been based on pure speculation and rumour." sinjin D4.101 "His power scares me. His avatar does too." guiri D4.117 "He's not in my clan." Zeriel D4.121 "" Total is excused, since she was the most popular alternate target. nphase thinks MrB could be the MotDoD; that's a valid reason. guiri votes for not being in his clan, which is fine although there must be at least 10 other players who meet that criterion. drain, story, and Cookies give some variation of "I don't like how he's playing". sinjin doesn't like his role. And moley and Zeriel give no real reason at all. None of those reasons satisfy any of the victory conditions I have: eliminate the MotDoD, eliminate HoC, eliminate non-clannies. They may coincidentally satisfy that last requirement, but it apparently doesn't enter their thinking. That's what I mean by playing grudges instead of win conditions.
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Post by peekercpa on Jun 21, 2010 12:21:13 GMT -5
[/color] All our win conditions are confusing, but mine is clear that I cannot win with the MotDD alive.[/quote] <bolding, snipping and emphasis mine> from the authorsWin Condition: You win when the Master of the Deck is dead, all members of the House of Chains have been eliminated, and your Primary Clan cannot be prevented from killing all other players before all Primary Members of the clan itself is wiped out. mine really is not that confusing.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 21, 2010 12:26:27 GMT -5
That's what I mean by playing grudges instead of win conditions. Pleo, when all this is over I really hope you'll tell us if you are serious with posts like this, or if you're just trying to get people riled up. The stuff you quote is people playing their win condition. You appear to be viewing your win condition in a stepwise manner: (1) Eliminate Master of Deck; then (2) Eliminate members of House of Chains; then (3) Eliminate any other threats to you and your interests. You're proceeding in order, and not worrying much about #3 until you get through #1 and #2. While this is a fine and valid approach to the game, it's not the only approach and those who take alternate approaches are not "pursuing grudges" while you, purely and honorably, pursue your win condition. Many of us have been mindful of #3 since the game began. Solving #1 and #2 does no good if #3 catches us awares and kills us in advance of winning. blockey proved himself to be untrustworthy, unwilling to honor his word. This was a problem for many of us - not because we're "holding grudges," as there's nothing personal involved here - but because an ally that cannot be trusted is a bad ally in pursuit of #3. Eliminating someone with a dangerous power who has implicitly declared himself an enemy of you and your interests, and who couldn't be counted on to stick to his word even if he did decide to go in another direction, is directly in support of win condition element #3. Keeping blockey alive yesterDay would have directly threatened the win condition of all the players against whom blockey had, deliberately and with forethrought, aligned himself. Killing him - a guaranteed risk - instead of Total was definitively the right play for those players. That you, yourself, happen to not be among them does not make it a bad play for them.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 21, 2010 13:11:40 GMT -5
Unvote Moody[/color] Vote Total[/b][/color]
I hold no grudges whatsoever. Blockey apparently made his own bed of game-related mistrust, and was then laid to rest in it.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jun 21, 2010 13:12:06 GMT -5
Vote Total[/color]
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