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Post by Pleonast on Jul 27, 2010 14:16:32 GMT -5
Choose your victim and the victimizer.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jul 27, 2010 14:18:22 GMT -5
Whee! That was wild. Well done, by Idle, I guess, although the disappearance of the Scotsman power helps us tremendously.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 27, 2010 14:19:41 GMT -5
So Idle pulled that off very well. Kudos to him.
I guess the question becomes: hit Idle, hoping no one will be protecting/watching him, or leave him be for now?
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 27, 2010 14:33:37 GMT -5
sorry to sound a bit niaive in thiese games but who are our main enemies to start of with??
Or can we just go after anyone?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 27, 2010 14:39:11 GMT -5
We need everyone but us dead, essentially.
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 27, 2010 15:12:54 GMT -5
Oh that's the sort of simple equation can deal with...
Do I imagine it or do a lot of peeps that play on here ... look back at how folk have played in other games.. a hell of a lot?
You'll come to see that I take most things at face value
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Post by BillMc on Jul 27, 2010 15:23:37 GMT -5
Well the Scotsman was one of our biggest threats - so in some respects Idle wasted the power. And it still says nothing as to the authenticity of his list.
So we have nanook and eureka as witches, and buffy claiming freemason. So the other freemasosn will be able to confirm buffy and themselves, so killing buff may be a good idea - or we kill a witch. The witches are more of a threat to the cabal - so I would expect the cabal to have a secret power that is effectibe on the witches.
At the moment, my thoughts are either nanook or buffy
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Post by BillMc on Jul 27, 2010 15:26:04 GMT -5
Tho basically whoever performs the kill toNight is toast as the Detectives will find out pdq Anyone recall *when* the detectives get told? is their power a day or night power?
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Post by special on Jul 27, 2010 16:17:10 GMT -5
Tho basically whoever performs the kill toNight is toast as the Detectives will find out pdq Anyone recall *when* the detectives get told? is their power a day or night power? they might be. With 2 Vampires, we could have 3 deaths toNight. We could get lucky and have the detectives not investigate us. And, on the bright side, if they do, and they claim. They'll lynch whoever killed them. Then I'll kill them the following Night and be basically untraceable. I'm all for killing bufftabby. The other Freemasons will find her toNight and be a happy masonry. Town: 3 Witches (Nanook, Eureka, ??) 1 Vicar (??) 3 Detectives (??, ??, ??) 1 Coroner(??) 1 Seer(??) 1 Scotsman (Idle) 3 Freemasons (bufftabby, ??, ??) Wolves 1 Alpha Wolf (Special Ed) 5 Werewolves (moodymitchy, storyteller, BillMc, Inner Stickler, duvsie 1 Omega Wolf (Sister) Undead 2 Vampires (??, ??) 1 Necromancer (??) 1 Zombie (Hoopy) Cabal 2 Cabalists (??, ??) Unknown people 01. Merestil Haye 02. Pollux Oil 03. MentalGuy 04. metallicsquink 05. Honest Moley 06. stanislaus 07. Captain Pinkies 08. Mister Blockey 09. septimus 10. sachertorte 11. nphase 12. FlyingCowOfDoom 13. redskeezix 14. Kat!
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 27, 2010 16:31:51 GMT -5
I'm also good with a bufftabby kill.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jul 27, 2010 17:06:20 GMT -5
Kill Bufftabby! Kill KILL KILL
I even volunteer to do it.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 27, 2010 17:32:11 GMT -5
Shouldn't that be Faster Bufftabby, Kill! Kill!
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 27, 2010 17:32:32 GMT -5
I am completely paranoid every time I post here that I'm actually posting on the main board.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 27, 2010 17:46:18 GMT -5
I am completely paranoid every time I post here that I'm actually posting on the main board. You should be, but that's why I put "Secret" in the thread name.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Jul 27, 2010 23:51:21 GMT -5
Oh. i am not good with the movies made before I was born.
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 28, 2010 0:11:53 GMT -5
I'm good with Bufftabby kill and would also raise my hand (can't spell volenteer) to do it as I think it's better for the plain wolves to do this sort of thing early on..
I take it this would mean that though she then gets confirmed.. it gives no creedence to anyone else saying they are a freemason too...
Is there any difference between freemason and mason or is that just what they are called this game
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Post by special on Jul 28, 2010 0:59:41 GMT -5
I'm good with Bufftabby kill and would also raise my hand (can't spell volenteer) to do it as I think it's better for the plain wolves to do this sort of thing early on.. I take it this would mean that though she then gets confirmed.. it gives no creedence to anyone else saying they are a freemason too... Is there any difference between freemason and mason or is that just what they are called this game Haven't not lived very long in a Conspiracy game, maybe I misunderstood. If they investigate bufftabby, they'll get Freemason, but she won't know who investigated her, will she? And I don't think they can talk at all with each other, can they? Maybe bufftabby isn't the best kill. We need the Seer and the Detectives dead.
Can I start a thread for "things we know"? One that we only post to during the Night but can see easily?
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Post by BillMc on Jul 28, 2010 1:58:02 GMT -5
If they investigate bufftabby, they'll get Freemason, but she won't know who investigated her, will she? They mutually affirm each other - You are a Freemason, a member of the Town. Each Day you may check if one other player is also a Freemason. If the target is a Freemason, both of you will be informed of the discovery. Otherwise, no effect.Since it is a Day power, they *may* have put an action in before Day end. So Buff may already know who the other two are -- but they won't know each other. Killing Buff will prevent the other two knowing each other just now -- tho if they did get actions in on Day 1, they may reveal that in the Night1 thread just before Dawn. If they do reveal, the benefit of killing Buff is reduced. Now.... If we believe Idle - I assume we do - there is no vig; so the only real threats to us are the Lynch and the Vampires. The only protection from our NK that the town has are the witches - I have a feeling Sach may be the other Witch "Bleah. I can't believe we needed two Witches to claim to get that done with. WTF?" He also is giving off the vibe that his role is confirmable
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Post by special on Jul 28, 2010 2:20:25 GMT -5
and as long as 3 witches live, they can investigate too.
I'm seeing Bufftabby as less of a target for us. The witches will protect one of Buff, Nanook and Eureka.
A dead witch, a dead detective or a dead seer would do us well.
on A metagame level. I would imagine the Undead roles appeared attractive to some of our more experienced players. That's where I actually think sachertorte falls. It also strikes me as something squink would want.
What about a septimus, stanislaus (he is less experieinced, I think, but damn he was good in Evil Dead), Kat, FCOD, nphase?
I still think there's a possibility that there are 3 Cabal and maybe one less detective. I dunno, maybe not. Idle was pretty adamant.
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Post by BillMc on Jul 28, 2010 2:21:37 GMT -5
And back to Buff
Scenario 1 - she confirms the other two before Dawn; no extra benefit from killing her
Scenario 2 - she doesn't confirm anyone, killing her stops the other two confirming
Scenario 3 - whoever does our nightkill (since they will probably be revealed to the detectives and lynched anyway) claims freemason - it may buy some cred, or at best, it will have the freemasons waste their power tomorrow by testing the NK'r
Scenario 4 - someone comes forward and claims they are a freemason and investigated buff; as scenario 3; depending on who the claimant it, the NK'r counterclaims, say they tested the claimant last night and was told they weren't a freemason - and with a bit of luck we get the freemason lynched
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Post by special on Jul 28, 2010 2:36:19 GMT -5
it's a Day action. They already know each other if the other 2 had time to get their action in.
But she shouldn't have any way of getting them to know each other's identities.
A detective claim ID'ing us as a killer might not be bad. I can kill that detective the following Night and be untraceable. And the other detectives might investigate that killing instead and come up empty handed.
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Post by special on Jul 28, 2010 2:37:08 GMT -5
NETA, the ID'ing might not be all bad. Of course, better to get off scott free
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Post by Duvsie on Jul 28, 2010 5:43:34 GMT -5
I'm quite happy to be the NK'er too.
I went through the days posts looking for a few things and I think that the other masons are amongst Mister Blockey, Septimus and MSquink.
Blockey uses the phrase "I'm a little lost in all of this" then goes on to state "I think I'm going to wait and attempt something tomorrow though." in post 137 on page 5 (sorry no idea how to post the links for easier reference)
Both septimus and MS use the word 'Free' in inverted commas after buff has claimed, septimus then unvotes buff in the same post (#353 pg 12) and waffles on about a circle of trust. MS picks up on it in #363 next page and buff replys independently to both of them. May be nothing, but worth considering.
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Post by Duvsie on Jul 28, 2010 6:25:55 GMT -5
@ Ed, you say that stanislaus is a damn good player, is he the sort that would bread crumb his role? If he is his post #31 pg 2 may give some indication that he's the seer. He certainly feels strongly enough to use specifically that role when talking about a counter claim. Peeps generally do mention their own roles in these kind of situations.
and I shall refrain from editing posts from now on, didn't think about it before sorry.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 28, 2010 10:01:05 GMT -5
Frankly, at this point I'm good with whomever; I follow your reasoning, Duvsie, and would be happy killing into that pool as well.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 28, 2010 10:58:13 GMT -5
« Last Edit: Today at 3:44am by duvsie » Tsk, tsk. That is a mod-killable offense, but since it's in a secret forum I'll give you some leeway.
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Post by Duvsie on Jul 28, 2010 11:26:01 GMT -5
Sorry. It won't happen again.
I'm also leaning towards MHaye being one of the detectives.
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Post by special on Jul 28, 2010 12:36:40 GMT -5
I could get behind a slaughtering of MHaye
The Freemasons will only come into play in late game.
A suggestions. If one of us gets outed and is going down the lynch route, It might be advantageous to leak our thoughts about the Freemasons in the game thread so the other Scum are aware.
We do need to be careful with how much we reveal though, so as to not narrow our pool to hide in...That is, maybe give one name
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Post by special on Jul 28, 2010 14:00:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure if stanislaus would bread crumb.
He is am russel, right? That's who I was thinking of when I said he was good.
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Post by special on Jul 28, 2010 14:01:31 GMT -5
Both septimus and MS use the word 'Free' in inverted commas after buff has claimed, septimus then unvotes buff in the same post (#353 pg 12) and waffles on about a circle of trust. MS picks up on it in #363 next page and buff replys independently to both of them. May be nothing, but worth considering. oh my!
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