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Jul 30, 2010 18:14:51 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Jul 30, 2010 18:14:51 GMT -5
You already know that you killed one of them. You also know that nothing will show up. Are you intimating that MHaye was a wolf?
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Jul 30, 2010 18:15:53 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 18:15:53 GMT -5
In the interest of full disclosure, we know that Squink was a Freemason, and we know that sachertorte is a Vampire. Our suspicions lie with either Red, Kat, story or nphase being the other Vampire I acknowledge the accusation and will merely roll my eyes. I see your eyeroll and raise you a headsmack which is inappropriately labeled a kiss . Maybe a blue meanie face would be better or wait! Bunnicula , you dastardly Vampire you.
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Jul 30, 2010 18:17:02 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 18:17:02 GMT -5
You already know that you killed one of them. You also know that nothing will show up. Are you intimating that MHaye was a wolf? Draw your own Conclusions
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Jul 30, 2010 18:17:21 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 18:17:21 GMT -5
Are you intimating that MHaye was a wolf? Draw your own Conclusions And Do so With random words Capitalized
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Jul 30, 2010 18:23:29 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 30, 2010 18:23:29 GMT -5
So, that makes one vote easy.
Vote: Special Ed
This is likely to be a busy weekend for me -- my parents had to put the dog down today.
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Jul 30, 2010 18:23:54 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 30, 2010 18:23:54 GMT -5
Sigh.
Vote: Special Ed
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Jul 30, 2010 18:47:36 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 18:47:36 GMT -5
At least I lasted until Day 2 this time. At this rate, I should make it to Day 6 by Conspiracy XII
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Jul 30, 2010 18:50:56 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 30, 2010 18:50:56 GMT -5
Well, in your defense, you were cast as a wolf....I think it's much harder to survive as scum in games than it is Town or Power Role.
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Jul 30, 2010 18:54:38 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 18:54:38 GMT -5
Well, in your defense, you were cast as a wolf....I think it's much harder to survive as scum in games than it is Town or Power Role. And you know, my thinking was, "I'll pick wolf again because no one will suspect that I'd want to be a wolf after C3."
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Jul 30, 2010 19:22:22 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Jul 30, 2010 19:22:22 GMT -5
So I don't suppose you'd care to shed any light on who was killed by what last Night? Not that I'd/people would believe you, but it might be nice for laughs. We didn't kill Squink because we didn't want the masons dead yet. This has to be nonsense given the masons are the only ones who can find out your Omega Wolf. I don't see what you're pointing to in those two posts, either. Are you sure you just didn't target sachertorte (for whatever reason) and have it rebound on MHaye (or Metallic Squink, for that matter)? That would be the simplest explanation. One vampire misses a kill, for whatever reason; one vampire kills MHaye or MS; MS or MHaye targets a vampire (probably sachertorte, but we can wait for investigation) and comes out the loser. Would also explain your helpful suggestion to the detectives. Thanks for tossing me in your grab bag o'smudge, btw. vote: special ed
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Jul 30, 2010 19:31:20 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 19:31:20 GMT -5
We didn't kill Squink because we didn't want the masons dead yet. This has to be nonsense given the masons are the only ones who can find out your Omega Wolf. I don't see what you're pointing to in those two posts, either. Are you sure you just didn't target sachertorte (for whatever reason) and have it rebound on MHaye (or Metallic Squink, for that matter)? That would be the simplest explanation. One vampire misses a kill, for whatever reason; one vampire kills MHaye or MS; MS or MHaye targets a vampire (probably sachertorte, but we can wait for investigation) and comes out the loser. Would also explain your helpful suggestion to the detectives. Thanks for tossing me in your grab bag o'smudge, btw. vote: special edYou're welcome for starters. The Freemasons are a very minor threat. In order to find the Omega, the seer would have to publically say that the Omega was a freemason and have the freemasons say "No." By knowing who they were we could more easily narrow down who the detecitves are. Did you read those posts I pointed out? Do you still think Squink wasn't a Freemason? Just ask bufftabby, she'll be able to confirm it anyway if she doesn't want the Town waiting. I made my helpful remark about the detectives because I know they'll find nothing and I was hoping to appear Townish before I came up with Town reasons why sachertorte was a Vampire. All we had to go on was his fishing for his undead partners, and that's weak...We know sachertorte is a Vampire based on our secret power, so we certainly didn't target him.
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Jul 30, 2010 19:34:33 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Jul 30, 2010 19:34:33 GMT -5
And no one has anything to say? Seriously? nphase, why were you so opposed to MHaye and I positing an unlikely-yet-possible scenario for why our witches aren't confirmed? Neither of us were saying that was what had happened, simply that our claimed witches are only that -- claimed. I really couldn't -- and still can't -- understand your hostility. Both of you, with your posts, served to throw just a little bit of doubt on Nanook's claim on their behalf. Neither of you acknowledged in doing so that them claiming as a pair greatly increased the odds that they were telling the truth; neither strove to address or understand any potential motivations that might explain them doing that and still both being scum. Undead probably even can't do that -- would two Cabal? Two wolves? Given any thought at all, you would have to realize (as you later acknowledged yourself) that the pair were overwhelmingly likely to actually be witches, given the circumstances. So your comments weren't motivated by logic, they were motivated by something else. Who wants confirmed town questioned? The scum. Find someone casting doubt on a player who is all but confirmed without acknowledging the reasons why, and most of the time, you'll find a scum player. That's why I challenged you both, and that's why I still think you are both likely mafia. As for hostility -- well if that was based on a thought I might be the third witch myself, I'm not biting. If it wasn't -- guess you're not much used to me these days. I've gotten rather aggressive lately.
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Jul 30, 2010 19:42:56 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Jul 30, 2010 19:42:56 GMT -5
Did you read those posts I pointed out? Do you still think Squink wasn't a Freemason? Just ask bufftabby, she'll be able to confirm it anyway if she doesn't want the Town waiting. Yes, I did read them, and it took another try just now to see it. Who on your team was enterprising enough to pick that up? I'm sorry to see MHaye and you go, even if you were both scum. It will be a poorer game without you. All right, we shall see.
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Jul 30, 2010 19:51:15 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 19:51:15 GMT -5
Did you read those posts I pointed out? Do you still think Squink wasn't a Freemason? Just ask bufftabby, she'll be able to confirm it anyway if she doesn't want the Town waiting. Yes, I did read them, and it took another try just now to see it. Who on your team was enterprising enough to pick that up? You know, I've been dreadfully honest up to this point, which will come to light eventually. Right, Captain? (There's really nothing for you to fear. The wolves know it and don't really care. The Undead can't kill you. The Cabal don't care about you.) Still, I'm going to decline to answer this question. I really don't know if you are an Undead or not, but it does seem like a role you might pick, doesn't it? Also we've filled in many pieces of the puzzle. Remember, there were 7 of us to start.
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Jul 30, 2010 20:22:58 GMT -5
Post by Renata on Jul 30, 2010 20:22:58 GMT -5
The implications thereof had in fact occurred to me at some point yesterDay.
Can you be so good as to point out Sachertorte's fishing?
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Jul 30, 2010 20:23:20 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Jul 30, 2010 20:23:20 GMT -5
Do you still think Squink wasn't a Freemason? Just ask bufftabby, she'll be able to confirm it anyway if she doesn't want the Town waiting. It's true; she is. She investigated me yesterDay. I investigated Ed; he wasn't.
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Day Two
Jul 30, 2010 20:58:00 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 20:58:00 GMT -5
The implications thereof had in fact occurred to me at some point yesterDay. Can you be so good as to point out Sachertorte's fishing? I can't take the credit for this. One of us became suspicious was how he ID'd me, story and FCOD. There really wasn't much to go on. story and FCOD had been Undead before, I had chosen Scum. The thought was maybe it was a Vampire trying to find teammates so as to not kill them. Like I said, it wasn't much to go on, but enough to make us suspicious, and that suspicion led to confirmation via things that will at this point go unexplained. We hadn't really come up with a solid idea on how to convey that message while still appearing to be Town. Once I was outed, it didn't matter anymore. You can believe me or not. And, if anyone refuses to vote for me toDay, I'd be very suspicious of them.
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Jul 30, 2010 20:59:38 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 20:59:38 GMT -5
Do you still think Squink wasn't a Freemason? Just ask bufftabby, she'll be able to confirm it anyway if she doesn't want the Town waiting. It's true; she is. She investigated me yesterDay. I investigated Ed; he wasn't. Why is everyone investigating me?
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Jul 30, 2010 23:22:07 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Jul 30, 2010 23:22:07 GMT -5
I can't take the credit for this. One of us became suspicious was how he ID'd me, story and FCOD. Huh, I must be reading this wrong. He ID'd all three of you?
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Jul 30, 2010 23:26:50 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 30, 2010 23:26:50 GMT -5
I can't take the credit for this. One of us became suspicious was how he ID'd me, story and FCOD. Huh, I must be reading this wrong. He ID'd all three of you? He pointed at FCOD, story, and myself as 3 who requested Scum roles last game. FCOD and story were Undead in the previous game. It might have been a very subtle way of trying to signal... anyway, that was the theory and so our special power holder had a hunch and so found out.
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Jul 31, 2010 0:07:35 GMT -5
Post by septimus on Jul 31, 2010 0:07:35 GMT -5
Vote: Special Ed
Some more beginner's questions:
(1) With four known Townies, why did scum target two unknowns? MHaye and squink posted nothing (that seemed to me) too accusative or provocative during Day 1. I'm guessing the kills were done partly because those two are known to be skillful players; is this correct?
(2) Is special ed saying wolves deduced squink was a freemason because she wrote "free" in Post #363? Do others agree that's a good inference?
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Jul 31, 2010 0:18:20 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 31, 2010 0:18:20 GMT -5
Some more beginner's questions: nphase, you want to know why I posited what I did? Right here. I'm pretty sure my original comment was in response to septimus (although it might have been to stanislaus, come to think of it -- I might have the two players mixed up), and what I was saying was that, however unlikely, it was not completely out of the realm of possibility that the witches weren't actually witches. Because that's something a new player wouldn't know. I assume (but don't know, and he's dead now) that MHaye posted what he did for similar reasons. (Also, to get a little metagamey, Town got burned by false masons in Ulla and Buff's Ragnarok game. And that's stuck with me.) As far as tone goes -- I'm a little out of practice. Your pursuit of what I saw as a teaching moment felt aggressive. Clearly, we have differing opinions about what's aggressive and what isn't.
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Jul 31, 2010 0:20:37 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 31, 2010 0:20:37 GMT -5
Vote: Special EdSome more beginner's questions: (1) With four known Townies, why did scum target two unknowns? MHaye and squink posted nothing (that seemed to me) too accusative or provocative during Day 1. I'm guessing the kills were done partly because those two are known to be skillful players; is this correct? Here's a primer for you. Cabal wants the witches dead Undead want the seer dead Wolves want the detectives dead A Scotsman can be dealt with later. A Freemason can be dealt with later. The witches were likely to be protected. (2) Is special ed saying wolves deduced squink was a freemason because she wrote "free" in Post #363? Do others agree that's a good inference? Didn't I say that? I thought I was pretty clear when someone asked for proof and I pointed out the posts. How else do you think I knew she was a Freemason before bufftabby told everyone she was a Freemason? But, if you want, I can try to be a little more obvious like you... with warmest regards, your friendly neighborhood werewolf
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Jul 31, 2010 0:21:49 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 31, 2010 0:21:49 GMT -5
Some more beginner's questions: nphase, you want to know why I posited what I did? Right here. I'm pretty sure my original comment was in response to septimus (although it might have been to stanislaus, come to think of it -- I might have the two players mixed up), and what I was saying was that, however unlikely, it was not completely out of the realm of possibility that the witches weren't actually witches. Because that's something a new player wouldn't know. I assume (but don't know, and he's dead now) that MHaye posted what he did for similar reasons. (Also, to get a little metagamey, Town got burned by false masons in Ulla and Buff's Ragnarok game. And that's stuck with me.) As far as tone goes -- I'm a little out of practice. Your pursuit of what I saw as a teaching moment felt aggressive. Clearly, we have differing opinions about what's aggressive and what isn't. I saw your avatar. Your wolf is showing.
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Jul 31, 2010 0:23:43 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 31, 2010 0:23:43 GMT -5
and, boys and girls, just look under my avatar for evidence of what happens when you tease an administrator.
and to think, as if Ed weren't masculine enough, before the April Fool's shenanigans more than a year ago, I was Mr Special Ed.
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Jul 31, 2010 0:42:02 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 31, 2010 0:42:02 GMT -5
Vote: Special EdSome more beginner's questions: (1) With four known Townies, why did scum target two unknowns? MHaye and squink posted nothing (that seemed to me) too accusative or provocative during Day 1. I'm guessing the kills were done partly because those two are known to be skillful players; is this correct? Squink is fairly new to the game, as far as I know. Not saying she's not a skillful player, though..it's just, this is the first time I think I've ever played in a game with her. MHaye is skillful, sure, but that can be said for a lot of people. I think trying to guess the millions of reason why they were chosen would more or less be anyone's guess...because truly there are a million reasons they could have been chosen.
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Jul 31, 2010 1:42:58 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Jul 31, 2010 1:42:58 GMT -5
Vote: Special Ed
Bye bye wolfie.
This has been an attempt to play mafia drunk. Preliminary reports reveal that it's a mistake.
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Jul 31, 2010 1:43:33 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Jul 31, 2010 1:43:33 GMT -5
Damn, that was smaller than I thought.
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Jul 31, 2010 2:00:42 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jul 31, 2010 2:00:42 GMT -5
Anything is smaller than I. Thoughts.
/bad pun
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Jul 31, 2010 4:39:59 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 31, 2010 4:39:59 GMT -5
VOTE SPECIAL ED
We ED you ask why everyone investigated you...maybe as this isn't a normal game tings work in reverse... Perhaps the more vocal you are early on the more people look at you.
I do hope you have been honest with your other revalations and have no reason think they are and it seems that BUFFTABBY has popped in and confirmed some of it.
EUREKA I also agree that it's not a good idea to reveal what faction you have protected as it then leave the assumption that you'll do the same from now on.... That just leaves 3 less players to be targeted at Night as those with a Night power will no to leave alone from now on.
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