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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 14:13:42 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Aug 25, 2010 14:13:42 GMT -5
A quiet Night and one soul passes.
Honest Moley dies. storyteller and BillMc are Wolves. Mister Blockey and Kat! are Town. bufftabby is a Freemason and moodymitchy is a Werewolf. BillMc becomes a Zombie.
It is now Day Six. The latest it will end is Mon Aug 30. It can not end on the weekend.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 14:23:35 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Aug 25, 2010 14:23:35 GMT -5
Brains?
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 14:28:03 GMT -5
Post by Duvsie on Aug 25, 2010 14:28:03 GMT -5
Not a vampire then. and the necro is still at large
Vote: FCoD
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 14:32:17 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 25, 2010 14:32:17 GMT -5
SisC is Town or Omega Wolf.
I don't see any reason to disbelieve duvsie. So FCoD is probably a Vamp. Let's see...
5 zombies currently. 11 people alive. Necro still there, so 7 undead for the purposes of their win con. If we lynch FCoD, that goes to 10/6. Wolves kill overNight and a zombie gets raised, 9/7. Even if there's an extra kill somehow(which I doubt would happen), that's 8/7. LyLo.
If we try and lynch someone else, lookin for the Necro today and miss, that's 10/7. 2 Nightkills plus a zombie makes it 8/8. That makes it an Undead victory.
I think we should lynch FCoD. That gives us a Night for the Witches to try and find the Necro, and the Wolves can try and kill the Necro with their NK. I mean, either way it's basically LyLo, but lynching FCoD and going necro hunting tomorrow gives us another Night of information to try and make that LyLo decision.
Vote: FCoD
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 14:37:11 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 25, 2010 14:37:11 GMT -5
I realize there is a reason to potentially disbelieve duvsie. If she herself is the vamp, then she would know what she knows and this would be an attempt to try and win the game. However, there is a way around that. We go ahead with lynching FCoD, and Tonight the last Cabalist blocks duvsie. If she's telling the truth about being a Wolf, the Wolves can have the other living wolf do the kill to try and find the necro. And if duvsie is lying about being a Wolf and is in fact a Vamp, then her kill will be blocked tonight and we'll start the Day tomorrow at 9/8.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 14:57:35 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 14:57:35 GMT -5
Vote: redskeezix
By process of elimination, redskeezix must be the Necromancer.
Furthermore, the fact that duvsie knew that both storyteller and BillMc were wolves, pretty much confirms she is a wolf. If duvsie were a Vampire, I don't see how she would know that storyteller and BillMc are wolves. Even if storyteller attempted to kill duvsie (which would have been stupid, given the drive to lynch duvsie)
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 14:58:41 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 14:58:41 GMT -5
... to finish my thought: even if storyteller attempted to kill duvsie and died because she is a vampire, duvsie wouldn't know that. And even if she did, she wouldn't know that BillMc was a Wolf.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:15:15 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 25, 2010 15:15:15 GMT -5
Duvsie would know that Story tried to kill her as a Vamp. It's part of the rules that Vamps know when kills backfire against them.
Can you break down the process you're using to come up with red as the necro?
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:18:00 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 25, 2010 15:18:00 GMT -5
I realize my math up there is wrong. I double counted the vamp/necro. It's actually 9/7 right now. Lynching FCOD, Nk, zombie raise makes it 8/7. Extra NK makes it 7/7 and the game ends. Hmmm.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:19:44 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 15:19:44 GMT -5
Player Roster
00. Hoopy Frood - Mayor - Zombie 01. moodymitchy - Killed Night Three - Werewolf (1 of 7) 02. bufftabby - Killed Night Three - Freemason - Zombie (1 of 13) 03. Merestil Haye - Killed Night One - Coroner - Zombie (2 of 13) 04. Pollux Oil - Lynched Day Five (presumed Undead, Vampire: 1 of 3) 05. storyteller - Killed Night Four - Wolf (2 of 7) 06. eureka - Killed Night Two - Witch (3 of 13) 07. Special Ed - Lynched Day Two - Alpha Wolf (3 of 7) 08. BillMc - Killed Night Four - Wolf - Zombie (4 of 7) 09. MentalGuy (alive) presumed Town (4 of 13) 10. metallicsquink - Killed Night One - Freemason (5 of 13) 11. Honest Moley - Killed Night Five (unknown: but not UNDEAD) 12. Inner Stickler - Lynched Day Three - Werewolf (5 of 7) 13. stanislaus - Killed Night Two - Cabalist - Zombie (1 of 2) 14. Captain Pinkies (alive) Town* (6 of 13) 15. Mister Blockey - Killed Night Four - Town (7 of 13) 16. Sister Coyote (alive) unknown 17. Idle Thoughts (alive) Town Scotsman (8 of 13) 18. septimus (alive) Town (9 of 13) 19. sachertorte (alive) Town (10 of 13) 20. nphase (alive) unknown, NOT PLAYING therefore not Necromancer 21. FlyingCowOfDoom (alive) presumed Vampire (2 of 3) 22. duvsie (alive) presumed Wolf (6 of 7) 23. redskeezix (alive) unknown 24. Kat! - Killed Night Four - Town (11 of 13) 25. Nanook Town(12 of 13)
Unknowns: 1 Town, 1 undead, 1 wolf, 1 cabal Honest Moley: NOT undead Sister Coyote: NOT cabal, NOT undead nphase: NOT necromancer redskeezix:
By process of elimination redskeezix must be the necromancer.
Did I count right?
*You might wonder how I know this, or you may not; but since I'm Town I suggest you believe me.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:30:21 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 15:30:21 GMT -5
Basically, if we believe duvsie, then redskeezix must be the Necromancer. If we don't believe duvsie, then FCoD, duvsie, or redskeezix could be the Necromancer.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:42:05 GMT -5
Post by Duvsie on Aug 25, 2010 15:42:05 GMT -5
Basically, if we believe duvsie, then redskeezix must be the Necromancer. If we don't believe duvsie, then FCoD, duvsie, or redskeezix could be the Necromancer. believe me or not, the fact that neither Bill nor story voted for me Day 4 is telling within itself. Story was lurking and Bill had no intention of casting the vote to lynch me. You even questioned as to why he was around at end of Day and hadn't voted for me. By the way, I've been informed by Pleo that my NK on Moley failed, but he died anyway. With only one death I think it's safe to assume that Pollux was the other vampire. Mentalguy will be able to verify the no result when he investigates Moleys death toNight.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:43:18 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 25, 2010 15:43:18 GMT -5
I never bother with actually reading the going to be away thread, so I missed the part of nphase. I can't say I'm surprised at Pinkies. Do you know he's Town Town or could he be the Omega?
Unvote: FCoD
Vote: redskeezix
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:46:56 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Aug 25, 2010 15:46:56 GMT -5
Actually, thinking about your list more, that narrows things down even more. Red is the necro, nphase is the last Cabalist, and (depending on what your information about Pinkies actually entails) SisC is the Omega.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:49:42 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 15:49:42 GMT -5
I never bother with actually reading the going to be away thread, so I missed the part of nphase. I can't say I'm surprised at Pinkies. Do you know he's Town Town or could he be the Omega? Captain Pinkies is not the Omega Wolf. He is definitely Town.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:52:03 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 15:52:03 GMT -5
Actually, thinking about your list more, that narrows things down even more. Red is the necro, nphase is the last Cabalist, and (depending on what your information about Pinkies actually entails) SisC is the Omega. That requires Honest Moley to be Town, which I don't believe we can assume. I can only assure that Honest Moley is not the necromancer since we have a zombie this morning and zombies die with the necromancer. For all we know Honest Moley is Cabal. He's probably not a Wolf though since duvsie says she killed him.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:52:16 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2010 15:52:16 GMT -5
I can verify Captain Pinkies is Town too. But, unlike Sach, I have no problem saying how I know.
I got a PM last Night saying he blessed me and that he was the Vicar. I guess he thought I was going to die.
Anyway, I believe in Sach's numbers. Vote Redskeezix
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 15:52:59 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Aug 25, 2010 15:52:59 GMT -5
Drat.
Oh well.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:00:20 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2010 16:00:20 GMT -5
I have a question, though, Sach... How is it you're not thinking FCoD could be the Necro and Red could be the last vamp? Looking at your list again, I get the same numbers/conclusions as you save for the part where either FCoD or Red could be either undead.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:27:12 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 16:27:12 GMT -5
I can verify Captain Pinkies is Town too. But, unlike Sach, I have no problem saying how I know. I'm not sure why you think this is helpful. Why would you want to explicitly identify who the Vicar is? Wouldn't it be better to keep that information secret? The important thing is we know who not to lynch. Beyond that, actual role is less important. Letting the Vampires know who to avoid helps them. But it is encouraging to know that Captain Pinkies is still playing. I had assumed that he abandoned the game. Hopefully he might wander by and offer some insights. I have some theories about him, but they are all speculative.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:30:08 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 16:30:08 GMT -5
I have a question, though, Sach... How is it you're not thinking FCoD could be the Necro and Red could be the last vamp? Looking at your list again, I get the same numbers/conclusions as you save for the part where either FCoD or Red could be either undead. It all depends on whether or not duvsie is telling the truth. She says storyteller targeted FCoD and then died while FCoD did not. The only way we know this to be possible* is if FCoD is a Vampire. If we believe duvsie, then FCoD can't be the Necromancer. * A Cabal block could do it too, but given the high number of deaths (4) I find it unlikely that there were 5 kill attempts with storyteller's being blocked by Cabal.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:40:18 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2010 16:40:18 GMT -5
Ah, I missed the part where she says Story tried NKing FCoD.
As for revealing Captain's role, at this point, I don't really think it matters. I'm all for a mass claim anyway. The more verified Town (hell, the more verified any roles) we have out there, the better, IMO. Obviously you are of a different opinion.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:42:46 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Aug 25, 2010 16:42:46 GMT -5
Really, I think it's just that you and I approach the game with vastly different opinions all the time anyway. I remember in the first Conspiracy you and I (Sach) were at odds with one another (and highly suspicious of one another) that whole game too, even though we were both Town then as well (you being the Coroner and me being the WitchDoctor).
We're going to have to try to remember, in the future, that we often don't agree with each other and, from that, find the other hugely suspicious sometimes.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:48:18 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Aug 25, 2010 16:48:18 GMT -5
I'm confused as to how Nanook is so certain I'm the Omega, but I'm also not going to worry about it at the moment. Nook is wrong, but I think it's far more important to:
Vote: redskeezix Vote: FCoD
Weak vote yesterday my ass.
And I have a question: Has someone verified sachertorte and I just can't find it on re-read?
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:49:59 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 16:49:59 GMT -5
I don't find it suspicious, I just find it odd that you are comfortable outing another player's role when he's not in any danger of being lynched.
Anyway, with Idle's information it makes my role clear by process of elimination. I'm a Detective.
The third Detective might as well claim now too.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:51:00 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 16:51:00 GMT -5
And I have a question: Has someone verified sachertorte and I just can't find it on re-read? Kat! confirmed that I'm Town and did not investigate as Freemason.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 16:59:11 GMT -5
Post by sachertorte on Aug 25, 2010 16:59:11 GMT -5
I also think the witches should protect tonight, but I'll leave that up to them without further discussion.
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 17:09:52 GMT -5
Post by Red Skeezix on Aug 25, 2010 17:09:52 GMT -5
I'm the last Cabal member.
Based on sach's analysis and duvsie's reveal (assuming she's being truthful, but she knew story and billmc were wolves) nphase must be the necromancer.
vote nphase
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 18:15:25 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Aug 25, 2010 18:15:25 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px;"> Why would you want to explicitly identify who the Vicar is? Wouldn't it be better to keep that information secret? You know what kills me about this? That information has been out of the box since Ed got lynched; he also mentioned being protected by Pinkies as the vicar. I know if I were a self-respecting creature of the night, whether or not I trusted the rest of Ed's ramblings I'd probably avoid hitting Pinkies until/unless I had no other choice. Why take the chance Ed was telling the truth?
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Day Six
Aug 25, 2010 18:16:41 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Aug 25, 2010 18:16:41 GMT -5
I'm the last Cabal member. Based on sach's analysis and duvsie's reveal (assuming she's being truthful, but she knew story and billmc were wolves) nphase must be the necromancer. Without getting into everything right now -- I've asked Pleonast for a substitute, but there aren't any exceptions. I'm too upset and scatterbrained most of the time to really play, and in the event will be away from home again for some days starting tomorrow. If I'm still alive when I get back, we'll take it from there. I'm really sorry. from the going to be away thread. Red, to you I say: horsehockey.
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