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Post by Archangel on Nov 20, 2010 13:09:04 GMT -5
That's what I was referring to, Jack. I took it to mean that she didn't want to answer whether or not point totals would be revealed until the end of the month, and that if they are, they'll be giving publicly. So, with that answer, me asking the same question again was pointless.
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Post by Romola on Nov 20, 2010 13:17:58 GMT -5
I half wish I hadn't voted already, just for the pleasure of castigating zuma and voting him for not voting randomly
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 20, 2010 18:22:26 GMT -5
Vote: Jack
Because I'm relying on a bit more knowledge of what is actually up in this crazy world from someone who has seen the "other side", so his confusion is particularly disconcerting.
In other words, for no good reason whatsoever.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Nov 20, 2010 19:36:11 GMT -5
RUDE
Vote: Cookies because omg u suck
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Post by severe delays on Nov 20, 2010 19:48:56 GMT -5
I can't quite believe I'm saying this but I think we need to start some sort of bandwagon. There's no point in everybody voting for every other person because then it just goes to random.org. With that in mind I'm going to vote for one of the people already voted for (except myself). I dunno who yet but if anybody wants to start breadcrumbing there is a loaf of bread over there and stuff in the fridge. I'll have a bacon and mushroom toastie please. Lots of mushrooms and butter.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 20, 2010 20:22:28 GMT -5
That sounds nom.
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Post by Archangel on Nov 20, 2010 20:47:56 GMT -5
Mod question: you say it's -5 points for voting someone in your own house but +3 points for unvoting them. Do the -5 points occur only if you end with a vote on someone on your house, or regardless of whether you unvote them or not? In other words, if I voted someone in my own house and then unvoted them, would I accrue -2 points or 3 points? [/color]
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Post by special on Nov 20, 2010 21:06:37 GMT -5
Mod question: you say it's -5 points for voting someone in your own house but +3 points for unvoting them. Do the -5 points occur only if you end with a vote on someone on your house, or regardless of whether you unvote them or not? In other words, if I voted someone in my own house and then unvoted them, would I accrue -2 points or 3 points?
[/color][/quote] This might be best clarified with Ulla, but I did spend some time discussing the set-up with her. My understanding is that the situation you describe would result in -2 points for your house.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 20, 2010 22:41:16 GMT -5
I can't quite believe I'm saying this but I think we need to start some sort of bandwagon. There's no point in everybody voting for every other person because then it just goes to random.org. With that in mind I'm going to vote for one of the people already voted for (except myself). I dunno who yet but if anybody wants to start breadcrumbing there is a loaf of bread over there and stuff in the fridge. I'll have a bacon and mushroom toastie please. Lots of mushrooms and butter. There's a lot of wiggle room on the spectrum of 2nd vote on one player ---> runaway bandwagon. If we do happen to have power roles that are perhaps making more informed voting decisions than those without powers, then it seems that more one-off votes and a smaller majority for the lynch could result in more meaningful analysis later, than one big bandwagon on one player, at least early in the game.
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Post by Archangel on Nov 20, 2010 23:32:50 GMT -5
Mod question: you say it's -5 points for voting someone in your own house but +3 points for unvoting them. Do the -5 points occur only if you end with a vote on someone on your house, or regardless of whether you unvote them or not? In other words, if I voted someone in my own house and then unvoted them, would I accrue -2 points or 3 points?
[/color][/quote] This might be best clarified with Ulla, but I did spend some time discussing the set-up with her. My understanding is that the situation you describe would result in -2 points for your house.[/quote] Okay, thanks. I should have asked this before but I have a similar question about the voting/lynching a player on your own team. It says -5 for voting and -10 for lynching. Does that mean that if you vote for a player on your own team who subsequently gets lynched, you lost 15 points?][/color]
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 20, 2010 23:38:42 GMT -5
That's how I'm parsing it.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 20, 2010 23:40:04 GMT -5
Which is another reason why large bandwagons could potentially be quite volatile, depending on what side of the lynch/points each member of the bandwagon comes down on.
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Post by special on Nov 20, 2010 23:44:49 GMT -5
This might be best clarified with Ulla, but I did spend some time discussing the set-up with her. My understanding is that the situation you describe would result in -2 points for your house. Okay, thanks. I should have asked this before but I have a similar question about the voting/lynching a player on your own team. It says -5 for voting and -10 for lynching. Does that mean that if you vote for a player on your own team who subsequently gets lynched, you lost 15 points?] [/color][/quote] It does seem that way, but I don't remember that coming up in our conversation.
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Post by Natlaw on Nov 21, 2010 1:25:48 GMT -5
I read it as -5 for voting own team and -10 if you are voting them and they get lynched. So only -2 if you unvote them and they still get lynched.
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Post by special on Nov 21, 2010 2:01:41 GMT -5
Ulla can confirm this when she gets online, but I think the points are cumulative.
So:
Vote for a teammate: -5 for a total of (-5) Unvote that teammate: +3 (-2) Vote a non-teammate: +5 (+3) Unvote that player: -5 (-2) Vote a player from another team: +5 (+3) That player is lynched: +5 (+8)
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Post by special on Nov 21, 2010 2:02:35 GMT -5
I read it as -5 for voting own team and -10 if you are voting them and they get lynched. So only -2 if you unvote them and they still get lynched. I believe this is accurate. to earn the points at the voting for a lynch stage, your vote must actually be on the player who gets lynched at the End of the Month.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2010 2:05:56 GMT -5
The biggest question for me is, (in a single vote situation with no unvoting) whether voting for a teammate who then gets lynched nets you -5, -10, or -15.
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Post by special on Nov 21, 2010 2:09:33 GMT -5
The biggest question for me is, (in a single vote situation with no unvoting) whether voting for a teammate who then gets lynched nets you -5, -10, or -15. I believe it is -15. As you may not voting and then unvoting a non-teammate nets you 0. Voting and unvoting a teammate gets you -2. Lynching a non teammate gets you 10. Lynching a teammate gets you -15.
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Post by zuma on Nov 21, 2010 4:29:44 GMT -5
If we do happen to have power roles that are perhaps making more informed voting decisions than those without powers, then it seems that more one-off votes and a smaller majority for the lynch could result in more meaningful analysis later, than one big bandwagon on one player, at least early in the game. There are no power roles, no night actions, and no nights, according to the rules.
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Post by zuma on Nov 21, 2010 4:35:54 GMT -5
Attention, please!The Hogwarts Sorting Hat is now in the possession of the Mods. As you all know - it has a will of it's own. However you can PM the Mods if you wish to join a certain House. Not all can be guarantee to be place accordingly to their wish. But the wish will be considered. I missed this initially. People were allowed to request a certain house. Wiki tells me that Harry Potter and the cool kids were in Griffindor. Those who are Harry Potter fanatics are likely to choose Griffindor. Severe Delays seems to fit that bill, having "read the books and seen the movies". And since I'm not Griffindor, vote: Severe Delays[/color]
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Nov 21, 2010 4:46:14 GMT -5
If we do happen to have power roles that are perhaps making more informed voting decisions than those without powers, then it seems that more one-off votes and a smaller majority for the lynch could result in more meaningful analysis later, than one big bandwagon on one player, at least early in the game. There are no power roles, no night actions, and no nights, according to the rules. Well that simplifies my unease with a big bandwagon this Month down to not wanting to end up lynching (with the help of Teammate A) Teammate B while simultaneously netting my team as many(?) as -30 points.
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Post by zuma on Nov 21, 2010 4:46:22 GMT -5
NETA: Those who are harry potter fanatics are more likely to have taken the trouble to request a house AND they would request griffindor.
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Post by Romola on Nov 21, 2010 6:58:18 GMT -5
NETA: Those who are harry potter fanatics are more likely to have taken the trouble to request a house AND they would request griffindor. I think the opposite. I think the HP afficianados are going to expect to be expected to choose Gyffindor and will therefore choose Slytherin on the grounds that 'Gryffindor wouldn't do that'. I bet hardly anyone chose a House anyway, just to evade this question. And the sorting hat is never wrong.
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Post by severe delays on Nov 21, 2010 9:34:22 GMT -5
I can't quite believe I'm saying this but I think we need to start some sort of bandwagon. There's no point in everybody voting for every other person because then it just goes to random.org. With that in mind I'm going to vote for one of the people already voted for (except myself). I dunno who yet but if anybody wants to start breadcrumbing there is a loaf of bread over there and stuff in the fridge. I'll have a bacon and mushroom toastie please. Lots of mushrooms and butter. There's a lot of wiggle room on the spectrum of 2nd vote on one player ---> runaway bandwagon. If we do happen to have power roles that are perhaps making more informed voting decisions than those without powers, then it seems that more one-off votes and a smaller majority for the lynch could result in more meaningful analysis later, than one big bandwagon on one player, at least early in the game. I'm not sure about that. What meaningful analysis could we take from September other than Zuma has never heard of Alan Rickman? ;D A bandwagon with a lot of votes is a bad idea later on as the house points would suffer all round. But right now a couple of small bandwagons with perhaps a flute seem like a sensible idea. I wasn't meaning for people to unvote today as there's no mileage in it that I can see. I was more meaning that those still waiting to vote might be better to put a vote on someone who already has one. There's almost no information to analyse and if we all put in single votes we could have a 12-way tie that's going to random.org. It seems wrong to let the game be decided by chance. I know it is only September and it's pretty random anyway but I'd prefer a lynch/ex-spelling to be positive rather than a passive action. By my count (which is usually faulty so do your own counts) only eight people have voted so far. So I'm going to vote and there are three votes left which should make some sort of decision. Because she didn't answer my question about whether she's read or watched HP and because she's already gathered a vote: archangelSorry archangel, I know it's lame and I wasn't meaning to oblige anyone to answer that but it's about the only way you are different from the rest!
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Post by Archangel on Nov 21, 2010 12:04:42 GMT -5
Severe Delays, I can't really give you any good reason not to vote for me, not knowing which house you are and not wanting to say which one I am, but I didn't see the question.
I've read the HP series at least 4 times, and saw the movies yesterday. I'd say in this group I probably qualify as a fanatic. I didn't request a house, I let the Sorting Hat place me.
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Post by Archangel on Nov 21, 2010 12:07:24 GMT -5
Vote Natlaw
Because he voted Zuma for saying he's not Gryffindor. I can only conclude he's probably not Gryffindor. I'm not Gryffindor either. I didn't want to say that yet, but I'm getting (mildly) piled on and I have to try to help my team.
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Post by severe delays on Nov 21, 2010 12:12:47 GMT -5
Oh I guessed you just hadn't seen it. I wasn't saying you were trying to dodge the question or anything. Just that it was the only difference between you and everyone else and there's no basis to vote for anyone at present. I guess it's the usual Day1 thing where we need someone to get kicked out before we can really play. As it stands I guess we are waiting for the other three to come along and make deciding votes on you and me or ensure one of the other nominees goes out.
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Post by Archangel on Nov 21, 2010 12:13:07 GMT -5
Sorry, what I meant to say about the movies was that I'd seen the newest one yesterday, and have seen all of them, some of them multiple times.
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Post by severe delays on Nov 21, 2010 12:19:16 GMT -5
Sorry, what I meant to say about the movies was that I'd seen the newest one yesterday, and have seen all of them, some of them multiple times. I am jealous. Is this one part 3D too? If it is I might go to see it at the IMAX (and nap during the boring bits when they are fighting for no purpose in the wilderness).
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Post by Archangel on Nov 21, 2010 12:22:53 GMT -5
Oh I guessed you just hadn't seen it. I wasn't saying you were trying to dodge the question or anything. Just that it was the only difference between you and everyone else and there's no basis to vote for anyone at present. I guess it's the usual Day1 thing where we need someone to get kicked out before we can really play. As it stands I guess we are waiting for the other three to come along and make deciding votes on you and me or ensure one of the other nominees goes out. Understood. Someone does have to go to move on and I agree that it's better to be intentional than random. (Though I also agree with Cookies...the prospect of a possible though unlikely -30 points out of the starting gate makes me really nervous.) I guess what I like about this setup is that it's possible to get lynched and leave your team in the lead anyway due to the points. Though as things get narrowed down the lynchee's vote will be missed sorely. And as things get narrowed down it's going to be expedient in some cases to pretend you're from a house you're not. So get out the Polyjuice Potion, people. (For Zuma: a potion that enables you to temporarily take on the physical appearance of another person. Used in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by Harry and Ron--Gryffindors-- to sneak into the Slytherin common room.)
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