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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 1, 2007 14:30:06 GMT -5
Yes, I love the way UI is playing. I think all the vanilla townies should follow his lead and start being more aggressive. I hope he plays more games with us. I'd love to play (as a player) a game with him. Yeah, I had originally thought about just playing the one game as a favor, but I think that I'll need to at least STRONGLY consider returning. YAY! It was great to have someone with a different perspective come into the game. I too hope you stick around.
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Post by JSexton on Oct 1, 2007 15:08:23 GMT -5
Finally woke up enough to remember how to quote the way I want to: The game is played very differently here, and it clashes with pretty much everything I know about the game. JSexton, you would know more then me, how true is this? And also, how is this true? Misetings is a different site altogether. It's a fairly rough-and-tumble place. It allows flaming that the SDMB would cringe at. And yet, it's a much better board than you'd expect, largely because there is a heavy social influence to keep things within a certain line. The mafia culture that evolved there is far more aggressive. Or rather, it has some elements that are far more aggressive. Not everyone plays like that. Note that I got into heap of shit for my playstyle in my debut game on the SDMB, and I'm known as one of the more level-headed, laidback players on misetings. It's not a matter of good or bad, just different.
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Post by JSexton on Oct 1, 2007 15:09:45 GMT -5
Yes, I love the way UI is playing. I think all the vanilla townies should follow his lead and start being more aggressive. I hope he plays more games with us. I'd love to play (as a player) a game with him. Yeah, I had originally thought about just playing the one game as a favor, but I think that I'll need to at least STRONGLY consider returning. Glad you had fun. I didn't expect them to turn on you quite that fast. I did pretty much the same thing at first, relied on the misetings notion of scum tells, and turned out totally wrong. You were right about the setup, at least.
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Post by ui on Oct 1, 2007 15:28:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I had originally thought about just playing the one game as a favor, but I think that I'll need to at least STRONGLY consider returning. Glad you had fun. I didn't expect them to turn on you quite that fast. I did pretty much the same thing at first, relied on the misetings notion of scum tells, and turned out totally wrong. You were right about the setup, at least. Sounds an awful lot like the consolation prize.
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Post by JSexton on Oct 1, 2007 15:36:38 GMT -5
Glad you had fun. I didn't expect them to turn on you quite that fast. I did pretty much the same thing at first, relied on the misetings notion of scum tells, and turned out totally wrong. You were right about the setup, at least. Sounds an awful lot like the consolation prize. I like to call it the grakprize.
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Post by sachertorte on Oct 1, 2007 15:50:25 GMT -5
I can't believe how much they backed off on Cookies. Cookies is awesome. All fear the Cookie.
I wonder if town will wonder why Cookies is still alive after a couple of Days. After the M5 coup I would expect scum to off Cookies ASAP.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 1, 2007 16:34:36 GMT -5
I can't believe how much they backed off on Cookies. Cookies is shiny. All fear the Cookie. I wonder if town will wonder why Cookies is still alive after a couple of Days. After the M5 coup I would expect scum to off Cookies ASAP. And you might want to check out the Mr. Universe journal I just posted. Town might be in trouble if that is the way most of the town is thinking.
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Post by Tragic on Oct 1, 2007 20:15:32 GMT -5
*waves* Sorry for being so entirely useless this game. I'm enjoying all the little behind the scenes tidbits though!
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 1, 2007 23:21:55 GMT -5
*waves* Sorry for being so entirely useless this game. I'm enjoying all the little behind the scenes tidbits though! No no, you weren't useless at all, everyone contributes something to the character of the game.
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Post by Tragic on Oct 2, 2007 6:16:57 GMT -5
Yes. And being inactive or lurking is now known as being "tragic".
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Post by sachertorte on Oct 2, 2007 7:54:45 GMT -5
Well at least it looks like story will survive tonight. What is it with townies being so hot to night kill storyteller?
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 2, 2007 10:20:37 GMT -5
*Fiddler on the Roof Music Swells*
TRADITION!
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Post by sachertorte on Oct 2, 2007 12:50:54 GMT -5
So if the Vig's target is protected, that just leaves the scum kill right? It looks like River is sitting on the one vig shot. I guess there's only going to be one night kill then?
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Post by sinjin on Oct 2, 2007 16:47:14 GMT -5
Ok, here are my guesses before looking at any of the stuff here, feel free to laugh behind my back or to my face if you want> Alliance in no particular order: Roosh, posted all my reasons already story: Fights with everybody, unvotes roosh within 4 hrs of claiming not waiting for a counter-claim, and the no lynch idea at the end of day one. Idle: Majority vs plurality time waster, posting bs even after mod clarification. dotchan thing, on and on about alliance town vs crew. mgtman: Fight with story, then basically lurking Catinasuit: Waited only 2 hrs after roosh came out to unvote him, implies he's confirmed town based only on his name. Hal: just a feeling, also lurking and unvoted roosh because of no counter claim within a very short period of time. Diomedes: I went back and forth on him from day one. Basically he just annoyed the shit out of me. I believe the feeling was reciprocal. And his Mr. Universe musings is what got be tossed from the game. So he's off the list, I think. Ok, now off to read what there is to read and come back
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Post by sinjin on Oct 2, 2007 17:05:15 GMT -5
I get the feeling that the "one word" thing sinjin is talking about is "vanilla" which amuses me greatly if I'm right. Ha, it was crew Yes I'm a doof.
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Post by sinjin on Oct 2, 2007 17:36:42 GMT -5
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Post by sachertorte on Oct 3, 2007 10:48:39 GMT -5
Don't feel bad sinjin. Roosh was lying in his roleclaim, and I'd have been very suspicious of the convenience of his power as well as the fact that he stated this publically.
I still don't get why town is so hot to string up storyteller. The monk bond is strong, I guess.
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Post by sinjin on Oct 3, 2007 12:11:09 GMT -5
So, did Roosh and Idle get a different flavor initial PM than the rest of us "crew" members? That would explain a lot of the confusion on day 1. As far as storyteller goes, I think it's because of the multiple distracting fights and the no lynch on Day 1 suggestion for most people. The whole good-guy name=town and bad-guy name=scum drove me crazy, so it's probably a good thing I'm out of the game. At one point I asked NAFKat to modkill all the players who thought they (NAFKat) were that stupid. Unfortunately this did not happen. I wonder if nesta will get a pass on being night-killed for awhile because of my claim of crew with a bad-boy name.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 3, 2007 12:23:04 GMT -5
So, did Roosh and Idle get a different flavor initial PM than the rest of us "crew" members? That would explain a lot of the confusion on day 1. As far as storyteller goes, I think it's because of the multiple distracting fights and the no lynch on Day 1 suggestion for most people. The whole good-guy name=town and bad-guy name=scum drove me crazy, so it's probably a good thing I'm out of the game. At one point I asked NAFKat to modkill all the players who thought they (NAFKat) were that stupid. Unfortunately this did not happen. I wonder if nesta will get a pass on being night-killed for awhile because of my claim of crew with a bad-boy name. Very VERY slightly different then the plain vanilla. The only real difference is that theirs don't say vanilla crewperson, they only say crewperson. Because neither of them are vanilla. (Roosh is only not vanilla on a technicality, but may become a real cop some day)
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Post by sinjin on Oct 3, 2007 12:45:07 GMT -5
Now I'm really confused about their confusion.
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 3, 2007 12:56:20 GMT -5
Now I'm really confused about their confusion. I think Roosh's confusion was fake. He asked that we not post his PM's until after the game is over, but he seems to be working on a plan. I don't understand the plan, but he does seem to have reasons. Idle, I don't know why he was confused, but I am fairly sure it is genuine and that Roosh's faux confusion wasn't helping matters.
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Post by ui on Oct 3, 2007 20:32:47 GMT -5
Why is Dio calling a result of "no action taken" useless?
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Post by sinjin on Oct 3, 2007 21:10:09 GMT -5
Why is Dio still deferring to Roosh, "old bean"? Why is Roosh calling possible town power roles with some sort of messaging ability dicks for not outing themselves.? Why are people still waiting for counter name claims? Why do I still want to go back into the game and pound Roosh over the head with a brick for totally confusing everyone? "These are the questions we ask everyday, everyday, everyday, everyday." Rosenshontz. This is way more fun.
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 4, 2007 0:31:42 GMT -5
So was Jayne role-blocked last night?
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Oct 4, 2007 0:33:14 GMT -5
D'oh. Nevermind.
Where's the headsmacking smiley when you want it?
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Post by sachertorte on Oct 5, 2007 8:19:56 GMT -5
I'm still suspicious of Captain Klutz because to me, it seems like he immediately revoted Cookies at the beginning of the Day to make sure we kept discussing the same thing, to stop new discussion and continue old discussion we've been over before...kind of like what he did yesterDay with Cat. Coincidence? Hmmm.... So I suppose that's my "suspicious list" at the moment. Drainbead, hockeymonkey, Klutz. No votes yet, but I'm considering. Interesting. So atarus doesn't think Cookies is scum because Klutz keeps voting for Cookies. I'm thinking atarus is giving himself away as the cop right here. His attack on Klutz is rather focused and ignores all the others voting Cookies. I realize the general opinion is that the cop should breadcrumb, but I think the risk outweighs the reward. Breadcrumbing seems like some sort of insurance against getting killed before revealing info, except the process makes getting killed more likely. Not worth it in my opinion. Question: Suppose you are a vanilla townie and you have a very strong suspicion that someone is the cop and are pretty sure that scum will know it too. Do you say anything?
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 5, 2007 10:13:12 GMT -5
I'm still suspicious of Captain Klutz because to me, it seems like he immediately revoted Cookies at the beginning of the Day to make sure we kept discussing the same thing, to stop new discussion and continue old discussion we've been over before...kind of like what he did yesterDay with Cat. Coincidence? Hmmm.... So I suppose that's my "suspicious list" at the moment. Drainbead, hockeymonkey, Klutz. No votes yet, but I'm considering. Interesting. So atarus doesn't think Cookies is scum because Klutz keeps voting for Cookies. I'm thinking atarus is giving himself away as the cop right here. His attack on Klutz is rather focused and ignores all the others voting Cookies. I realize the general opinion is that the cop should breadcrumb, but I think the risk outweighs the reward. Breadcrumbing seems like some sort of insurance against getting killed before revealing info, except the process makes getting killed more likely. Not worth it in my opinion. Question: Suppose you are a vanilla townie and you have a very strong suspicion that someone is the cop and are pretty sure that scum will know it too. Do you say anything? I think I have to say no. You may try to keep him off a bandwagon and pay attention to what they are saying, but it is never a good idea to out a power role. Just because you suspect that it is true doesn't necessarily mean that the scum will (and as of last night the scum didn't, though I am not sure why) and you don't want to give them more info accidentally. Also you don't want to blow any plans or strategies for the cop. You have to assume that they are working with a plan and if they haven't come forward on their own, you don't want to force their hand. On top of that, in this particular case, because of Dio, I don't think the town or scum are looking for another investigative role. (again I don't know why, Dio's role is very weak, but I suppose if they don't know anything about the setup they might assume that we didn't give them many tools.)
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 5, 2007 10:38:05 GMT -5
Hockeymonkey: dislike her usage of "bandwagon", think its dumb, but meh. Thats about it. Frankly I dislike the whole scum are all just on bandwagon ideas. I mean its certainly a good lead, but you gotta think of scum layers, so don't forget, a dude who hasn't voted for ANY scum also is suspicious as well because... well he's under teh radar. But so far that only applies to 2 people ( WTF and Capt. Klutz, heh, that rhymes!). But still, don't just put all your eggs in one basket. That sentence right there should get Roosh lynched. I don't know what he really meant, but it sure sounds like he just said he knows who the only people who haven't once voted for scum are. Which would mean he knows who the scum are. I will be interested to see if everyone ignores that because of Roosh's claim.
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Post by sachertorte on Oct 5, 2007 12:46:10 GMT -5
I don't understand Roosh at all. Not so much my hero anymore.
Maybe he means WTF and Captain Klutz are under the radar?
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Post by NAF1138 on Oct 5, 2007 12:54:26 GMT -5
I don't understand Roosh at all. Not so much my hero anymore. Maybe he means WTF and Captain Klutz are under the radar? I think that must be what he meant, but it SOUNDS so scummy.
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