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Day Two
Dec 11, 2010 18:25:54 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on Dec 11, 2010 18:25:54 GMT -5
Wow I told myself I'd keep up. Apparently I lied to myself. I want a vote officially on record though, so I'm going to have to go with my gut and Vote Mahaloth, because the hell is with that vote on HockeyMonkey.
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Day Two
Dec 11, 2010 18:54:09 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Dec 11, 2010 18:54:09 GMT -5
It must be saturday night, I don't follow Rysto's vote for Squink, but fair to note that Rysto has not confirmed or denied he was blocked. Wierd - Punker confused Squink and Story, Mahaloth confused SisC and Hockey. Gee, thanks for the last minute vote Hockey. Real nice. Yeah, cause dropping in on Saturday to dump a tying vote on someone is real nice. I'm not really available tonight as we have a birthday party to attend. Thanks, Hockey. Why would Mahaloth think it was Hockey rather than SisC? Looking back over Hockey's posts, she hasn't made any accusations towards Mahaloth at all today. Something doesn't add up here. Unvote: hockey Vote: Mahaloth
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Day Two
Dec 11, 2010 18:55:14 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on Dec 11, 2010 18:55:14 GMT -5
Day Two Final Vote Count
mahaloth (5): guiri [109], texcat [248], sistercoyote [266], mister blockey [300], billmc [301]
hockey monkey (4): renata [160], total ullz [256], billmc [264-301], mahaloth [270], crazypunker [276]
storyteller (3): peekercpa [115], catinasuit [124], mr ed [242], mahaloth [269-270]
paranoia (2): naf1138 [23], suburban plankton [100], metallicsquink [108-199]
metallic squink (2): total ullz [176-223], mr ed [188-242], brewha [194], rysto [286]
rysto (1): hockey monkey [101]
total ullz (1): texcat [16]
catinasuit (1): cookies [169]
naf1138 (1): paranoia [177]
brewha (1): metallic squink [199]
cometothedarksidewehavecookies (0): crazypunker [244-255]
charr (0): mr blockey [27-140], billmc [31-264], mahaloth [178-269]
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Day Two
Dec 14, 2010 22:09:22 GMT -5
Post by harmless little bunny on Dec 14, 2010 22:09:22 GMT -5
I had confused the names before. I was reading story as squink for some reason. For the same reasons I voted her in Day 2 post #244 : Vote CometothedarksidewehavecookiesShe seems to be playing overly safe and I still haven't noticed much in the way of meaningful contribution. After learning about Mahaloth being scum I reread the previous days/nights. A couple of things caught my eye. I'm going to repeat my Day 1 vote and hope to have more success in getting mahaloth lynched. My original case is in post D1-113 but to summarize: - I believe it was an opportunistic vote in reactoin to crazypunker's vote on Pleo (who we now know made himself an easy lynch candidate for lazy scum) - He claimed to have simulposted with crazypunker when in fact he made his two-sentence vote post 13 minutes later - He seemed to know that Pleo wasn't vanilla scum - He accused Pleo of either being scum/3rd party OR vanilla Town (not much of an accusation) but voted anyway for making the claim - He voted Pleo for his unforced claim but then backtracked and stated ( more than once) that he'd reconsider the vote if Pleo explained why he'd made the claim After that mahaloth continued to ping my scumdar albeit to a lesser extent: - prodding non-participants without actually naming them - asking if scum can talk during the Day and if the rules said so! - Ignoring my request to share his opinion on Pleo's explanation, and ignoring Pleo's explanation itself, despite his insistence that his vote was a prod, until prodded- asking how many non-voters there are - claiming that the same thing happened again (leaving the PC whilst composing a post, posting it and then reading the thread noticing charr's vote on Rysto) His play since the vote on Charr hasn't stood out in any particular way but, between my initial reaction to his vote and his subsequent play, I'm comfortable to: Vote Mahaloth Guiri and Bill feel like town to me right now. Of course I could be wrong about either one, but they feel town. I'm quite familiar with the phrase "help out", and in any context other than Mafia that would have been the first (and probably only) interpretation to come to mind. But in this forum, the word "out" has a specific connotation, such that the first (and only) interpretation that came to mind when I read Mahaloth's post was the "bad" one. But I think the only thing that points out is the fact that I (along with many others) get so hung up in trying to catch others making slips that we fail to consider alternate explanations, even when those alternatives make a lot more sense. As I said earlier, my reaction to reading the post was "why the hell is Mahaloth saying he wants to out Town Power roles?!? that's suicide!" I figured there must be some other explanation, because nobody would make that big of a mistake, but it never occurred to me that my interpretation of the post was incorrect. Once it was pointed out that "help out" has a different meaning, it became perfectly clear in my mind what Mahaloth actually meant, and I'm no longer concerned about it. Of course, if he turns out to be Scum I'm going to feel like a complete idiot, but I'm used to that by now. I'm going to be accused of smudging again, but this post seemed a bit off to me. Suburban knew that there must be another explanation, but it never occurred that the interpretation might be incorrect? Then he finishes with " if he turns out to be scum..." It seems a little convenient for my liking. I don't really know how to feel about him. He seemed to post a lot of good stuff in Day 2, so I'm taking a wait and see approach. I'll keep an eye out for more.
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Day Two
Dec 15, 2010 10:46:46 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Dec 15, 2010 10:46:46 GMT -5
I can't believe I'm getting lynched for practically nothing and when I'm not here to defend myself. I can't mount a defense in the time I have or on the equipment at hand. Have you defended yourself against the votes you received yesterDay? I was curious and went back to review your posts relevant to brewha's statement. With metallic claiming roleblocker and you claiming 3rd party, I can see why both of you questioned his statement - however your interactions seem more in line with a killing 3rd party - especially since, according to your claim, you'd already found rysto. Only one death? That's good - I think. So, can we assume that there's no vigs/SKs? Or did our protection roles do what they needed to do? I don't think we can assume that we have no vig or SK since we don't even know if MHaye was killed by scum, unless you know something that I don't. Indeed, Brewha, what leads you to the conclusion that scum made the kill last night? I think this post is quite informative. We have brewha asking his question, our claimed roleblocker - who may have felt responsible for the single death - picking up on potential PIS and then our claimed "competitive third party survivor" - whose existence was in question - sticking her nose in. Shortly after she says: Three nights in a row with only one kill, and I'll concede there is probably only one killing faction, though in a game with this many people there are usually provisions for multiple deaths to occur so we aren't still playing come Spring. I would still have to wonder if there weren't a non-compulsory vig in play or some other role(s) with a one shot killing ability. Here she mentions a "one shot killing ability". Scum could have killed AND a third party could have been blocked. I don't see how you could not acknowledge that you made a faulty assumption. Now it's a third party who could have been blocked (by mahaloth or metallic?) In Evil Dead I was a survivor with a PFK win condition (be in posession of the book and one of the last 4 alive): @ Hockey, why didn't you attempt to make a better case against Rysto on Day 2 seeing how close he was to being lynched on Day 1? Instead you just posted this: At this point there are a few people who haven't posted much - myself included, so I am loathe to single out one person to vote for on the lurker principle. I am going to be out of town this weekend and will miss the end of the Day. I want to have a vote on record in case I can't get back to the board. I have gotten scummy vibes from 2 different people and won't mind voting for either. charr for the no reason vote at the end of yesterDay with a lame explanation of it toDay, and Rysto came across as very defensive about the votes he received yesterday, especially since they were "Day One don't really have much to go on" votes. I think I'm going to let my vote from yesterDay ride for a little while. I don't see you making much of an attempt to get him lynched and the fact that he just happened to turn up dead the following Day makes me doubt your claim. Did you kill him? @ Metallic, can you tell us who you blocked last Night?
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Day Two
Dec 15, 2010 10:55:55 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 15, 2010 10:55:55 GMT -5
psst. wrong day.
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