Total Ullz
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 28, 2010 6:27:45 GMT -5
for buff and ulla. well you know what i would like to give you but what the hey, maybe on the flipside. santa has got to go back to his workshop and figure out what in the hell he is going to do with all these goats. What a wonderful read. I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and that we all get to play scum together next year And a belated wish for Peeker: may you never, ever change. You're by far the mafia-player that has made me laugh the most when reading your posts!!! You keep the fun alive in every game you play!
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Post by Total Ullz on Dec 28, 2010 6:38:38 GMT -5
So, yeah. And, I know guessing at the set-up is not a smart thing to do, but I feel like Mafia power-roles usually are counterparts of Town power-roles. So I'm assuming that if there is a Scum Scotsman, there should probably be a Town Scotsman, but not the other way around. I don't think you can see the balance of the game that way. We know that Scum had a Godfather. This doesn't mean that we would then would have a Miller in the game. But it does indicate that we have an investigator. We know we have Masons and there isn't really any Scum counterpart to that. However it does indicate that Scum have some extra powers because Masons are a great asset to Town. We also know that Scum had a blocker (and we have a claim of a similar Town power). But there do not balance each other out. A Scum blocker is worth more to Scum than a Town blocker to Town. But the fact that we have (or at least if we believe Squink's claim) blockers on both sides and a tracker on Towns side as well, would tend to lead me to think that there are more actions going on at Night than "just" a Town Cop investigating and Scum doing a NK. This theory was somewhat strengthen by the fact that we had a dead Scum this morning. I think a lot can come from discussing the set up. But we have to be very careful when doing it. Because when we state "I don't think we have a vig in this game" the Scum could read that as a claim to not being a vig. This means they can slowly notice small non-claims and sometimes they have been able to deduce real powers that way.
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Hockey Monkey!
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Dec 29, 2010 14:32:35 GMT -5
*knocks*
Is this thing on?
I guess everyone pretty much has had their say about toDay then? We end sometime tomorrow, correct?
I have wavered back and forth over whether or not to change my vote, but seeing how I think Inner Stickler and crazypunker are both scum, I'm happy if either is lynched. I'll leave my vote as is.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 29, 2010 15:12:29 GMT -5
I'm here, just not inclined to change anything at this point.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Dec 29, 2010 16:06:01 GMT -5
Same here. If anyone has anything new to contribute to the discussion I'd be glad to hear it, but I've got nothing much to say at this point.
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Post by charr on Dec 29, 2010 17:25:08 GMT -5
*knocks* Is this thing on? I guess everyone pretty much has had their say about toDay then? We end sometime tomorrow, correct? I have wavered back and forth over whether or not to change my vote, but seeing how I think Inner Stickler and crazypunker are both scum, I'm happy if either is lynched. I'll leave my vote as is. Huh. I'd think neither is. But I guess that's all for today.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Dec 29, 2010 17:28:11 GMT -5
*knocks* Is this thing on? I guess everyone pretty much has had their say about toDay then? We end sometime tomorrow, correct? I have wavered back and forth over whether or not to change my vote, but seeing how I think Inner Stickler and crazypunker are both scum, I'm happy if either is lynched. I'll leave my vote as is. Huh. I'd think neither is. But I guess that's all for today. No, no...please elaborate on why you think neither is scum.
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Post by special on Dec 29, 2010 17:30:57 GMT -5
I do wish that Inner had come back to defend himself.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 29, 2010 17:39:46 GMT -5
I do wish that Inner had come back to defend himself. As do I.
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 29, 2010 17:41:56 GMT -5
*knocks* Is this thing on? I guess everyone pretty much has had their say about toDay then? We end sometime tomorrow, correct? I have wavered back and forth over whether or not to change my vote, but seeing how I think Inner Stickler and crazypunker are both scum, I'm happy if either is lynched. I'll leave my vote as is. Huh. I'd think neither is. But I guess that's all for today. *blink* where is your vote currently charr? and if you don't think either of our lynch candidates are scum why in the world are you not advocating someone else, fcs. i mean for the most part town needs to lynch scum and not go for laying low in order to self preserve. sheeps. i mean part of being town, probably the largest part is trying to make cases against scum and not just going with the stinking lemmings. are you an effing idiot (broke that cherry rather quickly)? unvotevote charrsanta is not happy.
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 29, 2010 17:48:30 GMT -5
any chance of an official vote count?
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Post by charr on Dec 29, 2010 18:54:19 GMT -5
Huh. I'd think neither is. But I guess that's all for today. *blink* where is your vote currently charr? and if you don't think either of our lynch candidates are scum why in the world are you not advocating someone else, fcs. i mean for the most part town needs to lynch scum and not go for laying low in order to self preserve. sheeps. i mean part of being town, probably the largest part is trying to make cases against scum and not just going with the stinking lemmings. are you an effing idiot (broke that cherry rather quickly)? unvotevote charrsanta is not happy. That's the problem. I have no lead.
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Post by bufftabby on Dec 29, 2010 19:12:08 GMT -5
Vote Count
inner stickler (9): mr ed [12], guiri [13], total ullz [15], crazypunker [18], texcat [44], cookies [56], renata [66], blockey [70], sister coyote [72]
crazypunker (4): hockey monkey [27], brewha [32], catinasuit [49], suburban plankton [88]
suburban plankton (1): paranoia [33]
charr (1): peekercpa [99]
storyteller (0): peekercpa [39-99]
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Dec 29, 2010 21:04:20 GMT -5
*blink* where is your vote currently charr? and if you don't think either of our lynch candidates are scum why in the world are you not advocating someone else, fcs. i mean for the most part town needs to lynch scum and not go for laying low in order to self preserve. sheeps. i mean part of being town, probably the largest part is trying to make cases against scum and not just going with the stinking lemmings. are you an effing idiot (broke that cherry rather quickly)? unvotevote charrsanta is not happy. That's the problem. I have no lead. I...um...huh? Wow. Have you even bothered to read any of the game?
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Post by special on Dec 29, 2010 21:41:15 GMT -5
I just read all of your posts. (It wasn't difficult, you have 31 posts to this board so far.)
You've voted for no reason whatsoever on Day 1 (though the next Day you had a very weak reason).
You voted defensively on Day 2.
You voted for crazypunker saying this on Day 3
And here, on day 4, you are confident that both crazypunker and Inner are Town.
You've defended that you are participating, yet here is a good sampling of what you've said about the game
and finally this in reference to Inner and crazy
No, you're not giving reasons as to why anyone might be Scum, you're also not giving any reasons why you think they might be Town.
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 29, 2010 23:21:35 GMT -5
i guess this is why we have a tendency to run the newbs off. except for that annoying burby. shoot charr this is a game of accusations and suppositions. sure you will catch grief for some weird ass observation. but you will definitely catch more grief by playing the poor poor pitiful me card. fucking play.
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Post by Paranoia on Dec 30, 2010 13:46:51 GMT -5
Unvote
At this point, I see zero reason NOT to lynch Charr; I'm feeling iffy on Stickler simply because I think he was the reason NAF died last night based on the "Shooting is what did NAF in" post; the rest of it I can read very easily as non-scum (and I'm thinking the trapper thing may actually *be* in play ) sticking their foot in their mouth - what he said is so, so clueless it's something I don't think any scummer would have done. It'd been nice if he came back to explain himself but I just have a hard time buying it; especially since I've stuck my foot in my mouth to the same effect before as town, so this lynch leaves me really uneasy.
I'm having a hard time believing the same of Charr, who just reads like he's trying deliberately not to add anything in other than to post with unsubstantiated feelings ("Punker and Inner are town.") or votes (Ed - go back to day 2. He was in zero danger of getting lynched at the time he made that vote.) Add into the fact his cryptic statement at the end of the day ("That'd be a shame." in regards to him being potentially lynched and coming up town) seems more smug and self assured, as if he wouldn't care if anyone got lynched and came up town. Plus he failed to address cookie's statement or actually bother to attempt trying after he got called on doing jack several times (like I said, I'd prefer crazy off the wall suspicions from him rather than none at all - I understand he's new, but new doesn't excuse worthless to the town.)
Do I still think Plankton is scum? Absolutely. But I feel as if Charr's indifference to hunting and how NAF handled his more off the wall statements and actions as innocent pretty much firmly plants him in the scum category for me.
Vote: Charr
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Post by bufftabby on Dec 30, 2010 15:04:12 GMT -5
Vote Count
inner stickler (9): mr ed [12], guiri [13], total ullz [15], crazypunker [18], texcat [44], cookies [56], renata [66], blockey [70], sister coyote [72]
crazypunker (4): hockey monkey [27], brewha [32], catinasuit [49], suburban plankton [88]
charr (2): peekercpa [99], paranoia [106]
suburban plankton (0): paranoia [33-106]
storyteller (0): peekercpa [39-99]
4 hour warning!
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 30, 2010 15:22:17 GMT -5
and this may be inappropriate but upon re-read i still am going to do it - imagine that.
for charr.
first, you are not an idiot. fracking ed got that ball into play. it was wrong of me to make that statement.
but more importantly it is part of this game to get out there and let your thoughts be known. s'why i always want to lynch lurkers. i mean if you aren't playing the game then why in the world would you sign up?
i mean i think most of this crowd would freely admit that they have shown their butts when it comes to analysis at one time or another. that sure as heck doesn't make them scum but remaining silent is kind of like bad. apparantly you have some thoughts about certain folks. well share them. it's not like this is a fracking test where you get graded.
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Post by bufftabby on Dec 30, 2010 19:01:39 GMT -5
Final Vote Count
inner stickler (9): mr ed [12], guiri [13], total ullz [15], crazypunker [18], texcat [44], cookies [56], renata [66], blockey [70], sister coyote [72]
crazypunker (4): hockey monkey [27], brewha [32], catinasuit [49], suburban plankton [88]
charr (2): peekercpa [99], paranoia [106]
suburban plankton (0): paranoia [33-106]
storyteller (0): peekercpa [39-99]
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