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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 17:03:42 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 13, 2011 17:03:42 GMT -5
For the record, I have a one-time lynch stopping ability. A nearly worthless power. I did not use it on crazypunker. Can you use this power on yourself? With your knowledge, what did you make of crazypunker's claim? Assuming you're claiming Town, can you see 2 Townies having some sort of lynch immunity? You voted him on Day 5 (based on something CIAS posted) but not Day 3 when he claimed or Day 4 after he survived a lynch. Since I'm claiming, I'd actually support a full on role claim at this point. I think it may be time. Why did you claim? As for a full-on claim, we already have the following claims: Crazypunker - scotsman Hockey Monkey - 3rd party survivor Metallic Squink - roleblocker Peeker - mason Sister Coyote - watcher And the following partial claims: Mr. Ed - governor Storyteller - vote restriction Leaving just 7 unclaimed: Brewha Guiri Mister Blockey Paranoia Renata Texcat Total Paranoia, as the vote leader, is likely to claim toDay anyway. A full-on claim may just reveal how the 2 scum died and little else. Unless a Cop claim is forthcoming, I'd rather let the scum shoot into the pool of unknowns. - sistercoyoye was quick to unvote in #151 Nice smudge, even if you do go on to say Scum were quick to make sure no one followed my lead. I'm not sure where you see the smudge, it certainly wasn't my intention.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 17:23:52 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 13, 2011 17:23:52 GMT -5
Something about the phrasing "quick to unvote," I think.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 17:36:32 GMT -5
Post by brewha on Jan 13, 2011 17:36:32 GMT -5
And I rather not be lynched today thankyewverymuch. And it is a mislynch since you wouldn't be lynching scum and you'd be losing a day that you could be lynching scum. I'm not a threat to anyone's win condition so lynching me is just wasting a day. I can understand you not wanting to be lynched. However, scum>Hockey Monkey>town I'd certainly rather lynch scum than you - assuming you're telling the truth. But, killing you doesn't hurt the town nearly as much as killing town does. And, with our lynch record, I'd rather lynch someone I know not to be town than risk lynching town. Right now, I'd rather see CrazyPunker swing than you. But let's face it, unless we lynch out with nothing but scum swinging, I really doubt you'll see the end of the game. Nothing personal.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 17:44:29 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 13, 2011 17:44:29 GMT -5
Why are you assuming there isn't a fourth scum role? Whether it's crazypunker or not. I am not making that assumption. I said above: Very interesting that crazypunker and Ed are both claiming lynch-stopping capabilites. I think that definitely throws a new wrinkle into the situation.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 20:17:16 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 13, 2011 20:17:16 GMT -5
For the record, I have a one-time lynch stopping ability. A nearly worthless power. I did not use it on crazypunker. Can you use this power on yourself? With your knowledge, what did you make of crazypunker's claim? Assuming you're claiming Town, can you see 2 Townies having some sort of lynch immunity? You voted him on Day 5 (based on something CIAS posted) but not Day 3 when he claimed or Day 4 after he survived a lynch. Yes, I'm Town. No, I cannot use it on myself and I wouldn't in any case (as it would be likely to cause me to be lynched again the following Day.) I wanted Storyteller lynched on Day 3. (Still do). I thought I caught Inner on a slip on Day 4. I never bought the lynch him the second time case. I did buy into a vote analysis issue with him when it was presented. I especially did not want to waste a lynch on Charr as I saw no point to it. I want a full claim. It's Day 6. I also felt the knowledge that a governor exists might be useful.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 20:18:06 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 13, 2011 20:18:06 GMT -5
And I rather not be lynched today thankyewverymuch. And it is a mislynch since you wouldn't be lynching scum and you'd be losing a day that you could be lynching scum. I'm not a threat to anyone's win condition so lynching me is just wasting a day. I can understand you not wanting to be lynched. However, scum>Hockey Monkey>town I'd certainly rather lynch scum than you - assuming you're telling the truth. But, killing you doesn't hurt the town nearly as much as killing town does. And, with our lynch record, I'd rather lynch someone I know not to be town than risk lynching town. Right now, I'd rather see CrazyPunker swing than you. But let's face it, unless we lynch out with nothing but scum swinging, I really doubt you'll see the end of the game. Nothing personal. Maybe you're just being honest, but I smell a little backhanded gloating in this post.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 21:34:10 GMT -5
Post by brewha on Jan 13, 2011 21:34:10 GMT -5
Care to elaborate? What exactly would I be gloating about? And how would one do it backhandedly? Seriously, I don't know how to respond to that.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 21:36:49 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 13, 2011 21:36:49 GMT -5
Care to elaborate? What exactly would I be gloating about? And how would one do it backhandedly? Seriously, I don't know how to respond to that. I've found more than a Scum or two in people who say things about how poorly Town is doing. Sometimes, when Town is ding poorly, a Scum can't help but rub it in with a comment like that. You commented on how poorly we are doing in lynching Scum....it just sounded like a little Scum gloating.
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Day Six
Jan 13, 2011 22:00:49 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Jan 13, 2011 22:00:49 GMT -5
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 2:00:16 GMT -5
Post by Paranoia on Jan 14, 2011 2:00:16 GMT -5
Welp that's a wagon on me alright.
I am, sadly, nothing more than Vanilla town.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 2:23:16 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 14, 2011 2:23:16 GMT -5
Welp that's a wagon on me alright. I am, sadly, nothing more than Vanilla town. If you're Town, please share your thoughts and place a vote.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 2:40:25 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jan 14, 2011 2:40:25 GMT -5
I'll place my vote partly based on a gut-feeling:
Crazypunker
I've tried to get some kind of responds from him (her??) with posts explaining why I think he (she???) has behaved scummy. In almost all the responds I've gotten a hand-wave.
I feel like the entire point that there wasn't a tie is being ignored.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 3:24:26 GMT -5
Post by Paranoia on Jan 14, 2011 3:24:26 GMT -5
Oh on a note - I find it interesting Renata only choose to attack me when I uttered "Crazypunker" and "Possible pfk" in the same breath. I found the case on him had merit day 3, yes, but I had other fish I wanted fried and didn't feel like hoping on that wagon when my vote wasn't even necessary. I thought I'd rather use my vote to bring attention to my own convictions.
Also, I had zero interest from day four on in lynching Crazypunker - I was more focused on my two suspicions (read: Charr and Plankton), and I didn't buy into the "but he could be a scum scotsman" claim exactly either, especially with every found scummer having some power or the other.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 3:31:38 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 14, 2011 3:31:38 GMT -5
Oh on a note - I find it interesting Renata only choose to attack me when I uttered "Crazypunker" and "Possible pfk" in the same breath. You're not helping your case much. You'd made the association back in Day 4: Punker is at best, from my estimation, a PFK - and there are bigger fish to fry from my point of view.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 8:24:49 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 14, 2011 8:24:49 GMT -5
Final votes at the end of Day Five:
charr (6): peekercpa, paranoia [42], cookies, hockey monkey, ullz [99], crazypunker [110]
crazypunker (4): brewha [44], catinasuit, sister coyote [103], mr ed [104]
catinasuit: guiri [41], texcat [133]
storyteller: renata [54]
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It’s entirely possible that the Scum stayed off the charr wagon altogether, but my instinct says they did not… charr was such a safe, easy lynch, on which anyone could hide comfortably, that it would have been exceedingly tempting for Scum.
Crazypunker has received a lot of attention. I still don’t understand why those who were initially suspicious of him have completely abandoned that suspicion. However, the revelation of the Scum Investigator, coupled with the relatively small number of evident Town power roles, makes me somewhat less inclined to think he is Scum. He could still be a third-party, I guess, but I don’t know.
Paranoia has similarly received a fair bit of attention. I need to re-read to remind myself why.
Total Ullz has floated almost entirely beneath my radar so far. Today I will change that.
And why haven’t we lynched hockey monkey yet? I’ll keep saying it until someone kills her or we do. No offense, monkey, I hold you in the highest regard, but you have claimed non-Town, which means the one thing you are not is Town. The only evidence we have that monkey is not a malicious third-party – hell, the only evidence we have that monkey is not simply Scum – is her own word for it. Is that really enough for everyone?
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And peeker, I think you’re being deliberately dense. I have been as clear as crystal. I view my restriction as a post restriction. The moderator chooses to characterizes it as a vote restriction. The facts are the same; the only quibble here is terminology. If you agree with me that a restriction on what you can post constitutes a post restriction, then I have a post restriction. If you agree with the moderator that a restriction on what you can post doesn’t count as a post restriction if it is limited to restricting when you can vote, then I have a vote restriction.
This is not that complicated.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 8:28:28 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 14, 2011 8:28:28 GMT -5
Oh.
And if Ed is telling the truth, it seems probable that either he is Scum, crazypunker is Scum, or both (in the "both" case, punker has no power to stop a lynch but Ed does, and used it on punker to support the latter's case. This does not seem likely to me, but it's hypothetically possible). I guess it's possible that Town was given two separate opportunities to stop a lynch, but it seems... I don't know. Inelegant.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 8:50:07 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 14, 2011 8:50:07 GMT -5
So a quick numbers thing before I get into the heavy reading:
We started with 26 players, and have lost 10, leaving 16.
I think that with 26 players to start, we could have anywhere from 4-6 Scum. Let’s assume the worst case scenario, six starting Scum. Three are dead, leaving us with three left in that worst case. Thus it would currently stand at 13 non-Scum vs. 3 Scum.
I don’t know the Scum win condition, but let’s be conservative and assume they win when the number of Scum is equal to (or greater than) the number of non-Scum still alive.
Thus (assuming mislynches every Day [and defining mislynches to include lynches of non-Scum third-parties]), and without regard to additional Night (or Day) kills:
We’d be at 12-3 after Day Six. 11-3 after Night Six 10-3 after Day Seven. 9-3 after Night Seven. 8-3 after Day Eight. 7-3 after Night Eight. 6-3 after Day Nine. 5-3 after Night Nine. 4-3 after Day Ten, and 3-3 after Night Ten, meaning we lose at Dawn of Day 11.
Thus, in the worst possible case wrt the number of starting Scum, we have five mislynches remaining. Hell, even if you go absolutely nuts and assume seven starting Scum, we still have four mislynches remaining.
But we have to use one of them on hockey monkey eventually – unless everyone is content just sort of hoping she’s not lying and letting her live to endgame. Right now we’re in fair shape. There really aren’t many players that the Scum can kill without shrinking their own pool – pretty much just peeker and (as I think I’m pretty inclined to believe his claim) squink. Targeting one of those players is very dangerous, as Sister Coyote may be watching and if she is, we’ll net Scum that way. They could kill SC, but since such a large percentage of the Town continues to doubt SC’s role claim, to do so would be to rob themselves of a potential mislynch.
I maintain that now is the right time to lynch hockey monkey. But I will keep looking at others, as there seems to be not much else to say about this right now.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 8:51:08 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jan 14, 2011 8:51:08 GMT -5
And why haven’t we lynched hockey monkey yet? I’ll keep saying it until someone kills her or we do. No offense, monkey, I hold you in the highest regard, but you have claimed non-Town, which means the one thing you are not is Town. The only evidence we have that monkey is not a malicious third-party – hell, the only evidence we have that monkey is not simply Scum – is her own word for it. Is that really enough for everyone? While I agree that she has to be lynched before Endgame I'm inclined to think we're not at a critical time ATM. She is there - to be lynched when we have to. Right now I think we can afford to let her live (but I admit I haven't done the math on it - was waiting for other to do that part).
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 8:54:20 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 14, 2011 8:54:20 GMT -5
Oh. And if Ed is telling the truth, it seems probable that either he is Scum, crazypunker is Scum, or both (in the "both" case, punker has no power to stop a lynch but Ed does, and used it on punker to support the latter's case. This does not seem likely to me, but it's hypothetically possible). I guess it's possible that Town was given two separate opportunities to stop a lynch, but it seems... I don't know. Inelegant. Governor is one of those Town powers that is likely to be anti-Town in considering balance. The use of my power results in no lynch. No lynch is not pro-Town. At the least, a Town Scotsman prevents the lynch of a Town player. My power prevents the lynch of someone of whom the alignment in unknown. It's not as if we'd have a confirmed Town headed toward a lynch.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 8:59:21 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jan 14, 2011 8:59:21 GMT -5
One of the reasons why I didn't post my comments on the WoWs was based on a hope that others might also re-view the dead players actions and interactions. You posted your comments about mahaloth but not about NAF and CIAS. You could be scum trying to find who killed them and kept your conclusions to the scum thread while just posting the post summaries to this thread to maintain the appearance of helpful Townie. My question is for : hockey monkey, total ullz, texcat, suburban plankton, charr, & renata Are you claiming some sort of a power that allows you to talk to the dead? The only evidence we have that monkey is not a malicious third-party – hell, the only evidence we have that monkey is not simply Scum – is her own word for it. Is that really enough for everyone? For you apparently it is: Why put Hockey in purple and not sister coyote? I guess it's possible that Town was given two separate opportunities to stop a lynch, but it seems... I don't know. Inelegant. I was trying to find games that had both a governor and a scotsman and, surprisingly, I found a couple: Mickey Mouse Mafia and Smasher Mansion although I can't tell if their powers are as claimed here.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 9:05:48 GMT -5
Post by Total Ullz on Jan 14, 2011 9:05:48 GMT -5
One of the reasons why I didn't post my comments on the WoWs was based on a hope that others might also re-view the dead players actions and interactions. You posted your comments about mahaloth but not about NAF and CIAS. You could be scum trying to find who killed them and kept your conclusions to the scum thread while just posting the post summaries to this thread to maintain the appearance of helpful Townie. Yes I could. However with Mahaloth we had a lynch and therefore we had votes and comments before he died. We didn't with the other two. So I was hoping to have more comment on them from more players. Because besides from Pananoia voting NAF and you voting CIAS there really didn't seem to be that much said about them.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 9:44:09 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jan 14, 2011 9:44:09 GMT -5
Oh. And if Ed is telling the truth, it seems probable that either he is Scum, crazypunker is Scum, or both (in the "both" case, punker has no power to stop a lynch but Ed does, and used it on punker to support the latter's case. This does not seem likely to me, but it's hypothetically possible). I guess it's possible that Town was given two separate opportunities to stop a lynch, but it seems... I don't know. Inelegant. I thought the same thing. And I wonder why it didn't occur to Ed. If I were town and had a lynch stopping role when crazypunker claimed scotsman, I would have been highly skeptical. I would have been poking and prodding for more information and I would have been voting for crazypunker. I was trying to find games that had both a governor and a scotsman and, surprisingly, I found a couple: Mickey Mouse Mafia and Smasher Mansion although I can't tell if their powers are as claimed here. I don't know about Mickey Mouse, but in Smasher Mansion everyone had a role; there were no vanillas. Yes, I'm Town. No, I cannot use it on myself and I wouldn't in any case (as it would be likely to cause me to be lynched again the following Day.) I wanted Storyteller lynched on Day 3. (Still do). I thought I caught Inner on a slip on Day 4. I never bought the lynch him the second time case. I did buy into a vote analysis issue with him when it was presented. I especially did not want to waste a lynch on Charr as I saw no point to it. I want a full claim. It's Day 6. I also felt the knowledge that a governor exists might be useful. A couple of questions here. Why wouldn't you use your Gov power on yourself? Wouldn't that prevent a mislynch, or even in your scenario at least postpone a mislynch? Would you use it on an unknown rather than yourself, a known townie? Why exactly are you advocating for a full claim? It looks to me like the scum are searching for the person/mechanism that is killing them off at night and having no luck. A full claim seems beneficial to the scum not to the town.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:09:00 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 14, 2011 10:09:00 GMT -5
Governor is one of those Town powers that is likely to be anti-Town in considering balance. The use of my power results in no lynch. No lynch is not pro-Town. At the least, a Town Scotsman prevents the lynch of a Town player. My power prevents the lynch of someone of whom the alignment in unknown. It's not as if we'd have a confirmed Town headed toward a lynch. ...this is a good point. Your power is entirely anti-Town, and (since you can't even use it on yourself) I can't think of a single circumstance under which it would be pro-Town to use it. That doesn't mean that you're anti-Town, of course. So let's see. Possible cases: 1. crazypunker is Scum, but not a Scotsman, you are Scum, your power is as described, and you used it to save punker. LIKELIHOOD: Very, very, very small. If punker ever dies and is NOT a Scotsman, you will be dead at the next available opportunity. If you and punker are both Scum, you would not have claimed this and risked essentially losing the game if punker dies. 2. crazypunker is a Scum Scotsman, and you are Scum with the power you claim. LIKELIHOOD: Nil. Two lynch-stopping powers both in the hands of Scum is so overpowered as to require a flood of Town power roles to counter. And we do not appear to have a glood of Town powers roles. 3. crazypunker is a Town Scotsman, and you are Scum with the power you claim. LIKELIHOOD: Possible. Your power would be a nice balance to his. 4. crazypunker is a Town Scotsman, and you are Scum WITHOUT the power you claim. LIKELIHOOD: Theoretically possible, but, I mean, why would you do this? 5. crazypunker is a Scum Scotsman, and you are Scum WITHOUT the power you claim. LIKELIHOOD: Possible. I don't know why you'd make this claim in such a case, though, similar to #4. 6. crazypunker is Scum (Scotsman), you are Town with the power you claim. LIKELIHOOD: Other than the fact that it's really crappy for the Town, as both powers are essentially anti-Town if used, there's no reason this couldn't be the case. 7. crazypunker is Scum (non-Scotsman), and you are Town with the power you claim. LIKELIHOOD: This requires a third player, Scum who can stop a lynch. This seems way too complicated to be likely. 8. crazypunker is Town (Scotsman) and you are Town with the power you claim. LIKELIHOOD: No reason this couldn't be the case. 9. crazypunker is whatever and you are a third-party Governor. LIKELIHOOD: No reason this couldn't be the case. ----
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:26:38 GMT -5
Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jan 14, 2011 10:26:38 GMT -5
So a quick numbers thing before I get into the heavy reading: We started with 26 players, and have lost 10, leaving 16. I think that with 26 players to start, we could have anywhere from 4-6 Scum. Let’s assume the worst case scenario, six starting Scum. Three are dead, leaving us with three left in that worst case. Thus it would currently stand at 13 non-Scum vs. 3 Scum. I don’t know the Scum win condition, but let’s be conservative and assume they win when the number of Scum is equal to (or greater than) the number of non-Scum still alive. Thus (assuming mislynches every Day [and defining mislynches to include lynches of non-Scum third-parties]), and without regard to additional Night (or Day) kills: We’d be at 12-3 after Day Six. 11-3 after Night Six 10-3 after Day Seven. 9-3 after Night Seven. 8-3 after Day Eight. 7-3 after Night Eight. 6-3 after Day Nine. 5-3 after Night Nine. 4-3 after Day Ten, and 3-3 after Night Ten, meaning we lose at Dawn of Day 11. Thus, in the worst possible case wrt the number of starting Scum, we have five mislynches remaining. Hell, even if you go absolutely nuts and assume seven starting Scum, we still have four mislynches remaining. But we have to use one of them on hockey monkey eventually – unless everyone is content just sort of hoping she’s not lying and letting her live to endgame. Right now we’re in fair shape. There really aren’t many players that the Scum can kill without shrinking their own pool – pretty much just peeker and (as I think I’m pretty inclined to believe his claim) squink. Targeting one of those players is very dangerous, as Sister Coyote may be watching and if she is, we’ll net Scum that way. They could kill SC, but since such a large percentage of the Town continues to doubt SC’s role claim, to do so would be to rob themselves of a potential mislynch. I maintain that now is the right time to lynch hockey monkey. But I will keep looking at others, as there seems to be not much else to say about this right now. I'm beginning to think you actually need me dead to fulfill your wincon. You have pushed for my lynch above all others much like I did with Rysto. I needed him to be dead in order to claim a win. I think you are third party with a frankly sucky restriction of not being able to vote freely. I shudder to think what power you have to balance this. You've been dodgy all game, and I'm not really sure why, with all the suspicion you have garnered, you haven't been lynched yet. I've been completely transparent with my claim, to the extent of posting every interaction I had with our lovely moderator. I also hold you, storyteller, in the highest regard, but I'm afraid I have to place my vote to lynch you. unvote paranoia
vote storyteller
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:40:06 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 14, 2011 10:40:06 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think you actually need me dead to fulfill your wincon. I might. I don't know. Only you do. Heh. Yeah, I shudder to think of it, too ;D But yeah, I'm pushing for your lynch, and I'm going to continue pushing for your lynch until I myself am lynched or killed, or until you are. It is a huge mistake to keep you alive. Once again, you could be Scum. You could be a malicious third party. You could be anything but Town. Here are the reasons: 1. I haven't been "dodgy" at all. 2. All the suspicion I've garnered (well, most of it) has come from my claim, and enough players in the game understand the concept of "null tell" well enough to respond to me appropriately. 3. I haven't claimed a non-Town role.Of the three, one of them rather definitively separates me from you, and indeed, separates you from every other active player. I feel bad saying it, because if your role is as you've claimed than it totally sucks for you, but it would be foolish to keep you around until endgame. And (@ Total - the time to act on something like this is exactly WHEN we have limited pressure to do so; how would it be preferable to wait until we're running low on mislynches and confirmeds to deal with HM? Prove it.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:46:31 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 14, 2011 10:46:31 GMT -5
Oh. And if Ed is telling the truth, it seems probable that either he is Scum, crazypunker is Scum, or both (in the "both" case, punker has no power to stop a lynch but Ed does, and used it on punker to support the latter's case. This does not seem likely to me, but it's hypothetically possible). I guess it's possible that Town was given two separate opportunities to stop a lynch, but it seems... I don't know. Inelegant. I thought the same thing. And I wonder why it didn't occur to Ed. If I were town and had a lynch stopping role when crazypunker claimed scotsman, I would have been highly skeptical. I would have been poking and prodding for more information and I would have been voting for crazypunker. It did occur to me, and I thought it plausible. Like I've said, Governor is not a pro-Town power.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:48:32 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 14, 2011 10:48:32 GMT -5
A couple of questions here. Why wouldn't you use your Gov power on yourself? Wouldn't that prevent a mislynch, or even in your scenario at least postpone a mislynch? Would you use it on an unknown rather than yourself, a known townie? Why exactly are you advocating for a full claim? It looks to me like the scum are searching for the person/mechanism that is killing them off at night and having no luck. A full claim seems beneficial to the scum not to the town. Yes, using my power on myself (which I cannot do) would prevent a mislynch. However, I feel it likely that it would just result in my lynch the following Day. A Scotsman cannot help but prevent his own lynch. Granted in this istance it is an odd situation in that the Sctosman's alignment wasn't revealed. That does change the situation somewhat.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:49:34 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 14, 2011 10:49:34 GMT -5
[/color=blue]vote paranoia[/color][/b]
i agree with what story alluded to upthread. i believe that at least one of the unknown voters who was on charr is scum. paranoia votes charr and then right after that cias votes punker. sure smells like scum splitting their vote not really caring who goes just that not scum goes bye bye.
and punkers butt saving vote doesn't really mean squat to me. i mean that vote gets made regardless of alignment.
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:50:27 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Jan 14, 2011 10:50:27 GMT -5
farg me in the ear.
vote paranoia
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Day Six
Jan 14, 2011 10:53:28 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 14, 2011 10:53:28 GMT -5
Why exactly are you advocating for a full claim? It looks to me like the scum are searching for the person/mechanism that is killing them off at night and having no luck. A full claim seems beneficial to the scum not to the town. I think I forgot to answer this part. The point you raise is valid. Perhaps I was wrong. It may very well be that Cookies was causing their deaths, but it could be someone else. I'm swayed by storyteller's argument, but I'd still like him dead. Unvote: paranoia Vote: Hockey Monkey And yes, It's another me too case. But it just might be that way until someone agrees to help me lynch storyteller.
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