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Post by bufftabby on Jan 17, 2011 19:28:52 GMT -5
Everyone gathers for breakfast, and there appear to be no fewer companions than the Day before. This places you and your friends in a jocular humor, and you begin to think this nightmare may have finally come to an end. You wonder if this may be the Day in which you are all finally permitted to depart. As you begin planning how you will pack your things, a maiden, who until a short time before, was seated amongst you, quite calm, starts gesticulating, digging her elbows into people's sides, and knocking her neighbors off the bench. She flings a card onto the table, and points at it with a tap that seems as the banging of a fist on the table.
"This," she says loudly and slowly, "represents one who, having given up all hope of anything good from the civilized world, lived alone in these woods, to keep himself far from the bad influences of human society. But one is not safe even there, and even less safe here. In time, whether of beast or man, we all will one day die and serve as pasture for ants and flies. Today, that time has come for one of us: IX. The Hermit."
She sits down, silent. You look around, dreading what you might see. Your dread is well-founded, as guiri, who had been eating as enthusiastically as everyone else, is now slumped over his plate, already cold to the touch.
Guiri, Town Witch, is dead.
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Post by special on Jan 17, 2011 19:36:33 GMT -5
What is Town witch? [/color]
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Post by bufftabby on Jan 17, 2011 19:52:27 GMT -5
[/color][/quote] Guiri's role.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 17, 2011 19:54:07 GMT -5
Ugh.
Best and simplest guess is that Guiri was in some respect responsible for the Scum Night deaths.
So where do we start? I continue to be of the opinion that hockey monkey should be lynched; my guess is that she and Ed and peeker will continue to be of the opinion that I should. I guess we've collectively decided to treat Sister Coyote as more or less trustworthy, which I'm fine with I think (unless "Witch" turns out to equal any flavor of investigator, in which case we should lynch Coyote, I think, and also ask the ghosts of the other departed Townies to flick Guiri repeatedly about the head and shoulders).
Total, Renata, Blockey, and Texcat continue to be ciphers for me.
crazypunker is a huge question mark, based on his lynch survival and our uncertainty of the mechanism underlying same. Ed is also a question mark, but I have gradually come to see him as more likely Town than not.
squink and peeker are more-or-less confirmed in my view.
What am I missing?
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jan 17, 2011 19:55:35 GMT -5
[/color][/quote] Guiri's role. [/quote] Every other role reveal has had a generic descriptor attached. Why not this one?
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Post by special on Jan 17, 2011 19:57:19 GMT -5
[/color][/quote] Guiri's role. [/quote] Thanks.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Jan 17, 2011 20:18:13 GMT -5
I continue to feel that storyteller is today's best lynch, same reasons as my vote yesterday.
vote storyteller
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Post by guiri on Jan 17, 2011 20:24:53 GMT -5
Go Town!!!!!
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Post by texcat on Jan 17, 2011 20:37:33 GMT -5
metallic, would it be possible for you to list your blocks again?
I'm still suspicious of both of the lynch blockers. And pending further information, I will once again,
vote: crazypunker
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Post by special on Jan 17, 2011 20:43:04 GMT -5
and Day 7 and still no mass claim?
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Post by metallicsquink on Jan 17, 2011 23:02:53 GMT -5
metallic, would it be possible for you to list your blocks again? I'm still suspicious of both of the lynch blockers. And pending further information, I will once again, vote: crazypunker Night 0: Total Ullz Night 1: Rysto Night 2: Suburban Plankton Night 3: Special Ed Night 4: Renata Night 5: no one Night 6: crazypunker vote Hockey Monkey
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 18, 2011 1:34:18 GMT -5
I found this (re. Witch): wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=WitchIt says: * Places a curse on a person each night. * That person will die... * ... if visited by a person not sided with the mafia that night. Guiri being town would mean that the "not" in "not sided with the mafia" should be removed and then we have a Witch able to set a trap and kill mafia if they come near the person trapped. I guess we can thank Guiri for the deaths of NAF and CatInASuit. At least that's how I see the role.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 18, 2011 10:55:33 GMT -5
i continue to believe that at least one of the votes on charr has to be scum. i mean it's too fracking easy.
vote ulla.
i'll easily switch to hm if that is the concensus decision.
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Post by texcat on Jan 18, 2011 11:10:28 GMT -5
Ed is also a question mark, but I have gradually come to see him as more likely Town than not. Could you explain why? Has Ed done something to lead you to believe he is town?
A re-examination of the votes has shown: - Neither paranoia nor crazypunker voted yesterday, in spite of being tied for the vote lead.
- Of the 12 living, 8 of us have voted for crazypunker at one time or the other. The only non crazypunker voters have been crazypunker, storyteller, blockey, and peeker.
- No one has ended the day with a vote on peeker. Ever lived to day 7 without a vote before, peeker?
- Living Charr voters: total ullz, peeker, hockey monkey, and crazypunker.
- Living storyteller voters: peeker, renata, ed, and hockey monkey.
- Living hockey monkey voters: total ullz, renata, crazypunker, and ed.
i continue to believe that at least one of the votes on charr has to be scum. i mean it's too fracking easy. vote ulla. i'll easily switch to hm if that is the concensus decision. Any reason for picking total ullz over crazypunker? Anything else suspicious about her, except for her one vote on Charr?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 18, 2011 11:25:28 GMT -5
Dammit dammit dammit
I forgot to submit a target last Night. I have no excuse at all.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 18, 2011 11:29:14 GMT -5
well tex i still don't necessarily agree that cp is a scum scotsman. it just seems that having scum with that power as well as the others makes for a lot of scum abilities. but shoot it wouldn't be the first time i have been wrong.
i picked ulla over cp on a gut feel. she's been middle of the road most of the game which is where i would expect scum to hide, especially ulla. not really leading the charge but also not coming in at the end with some sort of lame "me too" kind of reasoning.
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Post by bufftabby on Jan 18, 2011 14:55:09 GMT -5
Vote Count
storyteller (1): hockey monkey [6]
crazypunker (1): texcat [8]
hockey monkey (1): metallic squink [10]
total ullz (1): peekercpa [12]
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Post by texcat on Jan 18, 2011 16:58:57 GMT -5
well tex i still don't necessarily agree that cp is a scum scotsman. it just seems that having scum with that power as well as the others makes for a lot of scum abilities. but shoot it wouldn't be the first time i have been wrong. i picked ulla over cp on a gut feel. she's been middle of the road most of the game which is where i would expect scum to hide, especially ulla. not really leading the charge but also not coming in at the end with some sort of lame "me too" kind of reasoning. I thought the same thing once crazypunker avoided the lynch. After Ed claimed another lynch-stopping capability though, I feel like that might be too heavy on the town side of things. I somewhat agree about Total being middle of the road, but think you could say the same thing about Renata, or Ed, or brewha, or probably quite a few people. Renata and Ed have pushed the middle of the road safe case on storyteller. Brewha has been quiet after his one day in the spotlight and seems stuck on voting crazypunker.
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Post by special on Jan 18, 2011 17:10:55 GMT -5
well tex i still don't necessarily agree that cp is a scum scotsman. it just seems that having scum with that power as well as the others makes for a lot of scum abilities. but shoot it wouldn't be the first time i have been wrong. i picked ulla over cp on a gut feel. she's been middle of the road most of the game which is where i would expect scum to hide, especially ulla. not really leading the charge but also not coming in at the end with some sort of lame "me too" kind of reasoning. I thought the same thing once crazypunker avoided the lynch. After Ed claimed another lynch-stopping capability though, I feel like that might be too heavy on the town side of things. I somewhat agree about Total being middle of the road, but think you could say the same thing about Renata, or Ed, or brewha, or probably quite a few people. Renata and Ed have pushed the middle of the road safe case on storyteller. Brewha has been quiet after his one day in the spotlight and seems stuck on voting crazypunker. To clarify for everyone. My lynch stopping ability is weak to the point of being almost completely worthless. If there was even any worth in a town lynch stopping ability. here are my PMs: BufftabbyEdBufftabbyEdBufftabbyThe following are in regards to me posting in the forbidden thread EdBufftabbyEdBufftabby (after she posted my posts in the game thread)
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 18, 2011 18:43:03 GMT -5
I thought the same thing once crazypunker avoided the lynch. After Ed claimed another lynch-stopping capability though, I feel like that might be too heavy on the town side of things. <snipped> i know the fracking feeling. but to a great extent ed's power is anti town. and if cp is a scum scotsman then so is his. that ends up with two more anti town powers. and that is a whopdoodle of scum baddies running around. i don't know if guiri or cookies got lucky as shit but without the Night kills town is pissing up a rope at this point. i come back to there just has to be a scum on the durn charr lynch. and to some extent i believe ed which would be the other side of cp. hm is basically waiting in line to go bye bye. that, by default, leaves ulla whose play aligns with my convoluted conclusion.
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Post by texcat on Jan 18, 2011 18:54:42 GMT -5
And now that we have seen Ed's role in full, it looks more like a non-power. I guess there might be some circumstances where you would know who might be lynched the next Day and want to stop it, but it seems next to impossible -- especially since you can't dream about yourself.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 19, 2011 8:41:44 GMT -5
i picked ulla over cp on a gut feel. she's been middle of the road most of the game which is where i would expect scum to hide, especially ulla. not really leading the charge but also not coming in at the end with some sort of lame "me too" kind of reasoning. Small wonder I disagree with this. I can understand the Charr-vote-theory - but this isn't really a fair characterisation of me in this game IMO. Not sure I understand the "not really leading the charge". I have been making cases back-up on solid data. I was wrong in regards to Squink (or so it seems at this point in the game). But I don't think I've been "middle road" in this game.
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Post by brewha on Jan 19, 2011 10:14:30 GMT -5
Brewha has been quiet after his one day in the spotlight and seems stuck on voting crazypunker. If by "quiet" you mean "not responding to all the BS accusations based on what I supposedly slipped up on" then yes, I've been quiet. Stuck on a CP vote? Absolutely. I still don't know why she's still alive. I'm going through the list of living players trying to work out some vote records. By now something should be apparent. I'll get that posted later today.
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Post by Renata on Jan 19, 2011 16:33:59 GMT -5
I think I'm more or less back to my usual schedule for the moment. I need to catch up, but unless something unexpected happens I'll be around tomorrow.
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Post by texcat on Jan 19, 2011 18:52:35 GMT -5
Catch up? How much is there to catch up on? We're still on page 1.
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Post by Renata on Jan 19, 2011 20:18:00 GMT -5
Virtually all of yesterday since my vote on Paranoia. I have not been around.
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Post by Renata on Jan 20, 2011 12:07:58 GMT -5
Ugh. Best and simplest guess is that Guiri was in some respect responsible for the Scum Night deaths. So where do we start? I continue to be of the opinion that hockey monkey should be lynched; my guess is that she and Ed and peeker will continue to be of the opinion that I should. I guess we've collectively decided to treat Sister Coyote as more or less trustworthy, which I'm fine with I think (unless "Witch" turns out to equal any flavor of investigator, in which case we should lynch Coyote, I think, and also ask the ghosts of the other departed Townies to flick Guiri repeatedly about the head and shoulders). Ulla's wiki link and suggestion are correct, I think -- in going over day six I noted where Guiri said something about a mass claim only serving to out the person responsible for the scum deaths. Rather stands out in restrospect. Why? Brewha. Your gameplay is really driving me crazy, you know.
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Post by Renata on Jan 20, 2011 12:09:21 GMT -5
I continue to feel that storyteller is today's best lynch, same reasons as my vote yesterday. vote storytellerYou think he's a third party?
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Post by Renata on Jan 20, 2011 12:13:29 GMT -5
[/li][li]No one has ended the day with a vote on peeker. Ever lived to day 7 without a vote before, peeker?[/quote] What point were you trying to make with this comment?
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Post by texcat on Jan 20, 2011 17:16:19 GMT -5
As someone who has voted peeker on Day 1 numerous times, it just struck me as unusual. Not meaningful in the context of this game, just unusual.
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