Total Ullz
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Post by Total Ullz on Feb 9, 2011 3:00:53 GMT -5
Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Ninepence. Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead! Bring out... ...your dead! Bring out your dead! Timmy, Town, Vanilla, Frank (The famous historian) is dead Paranoia, Town, Questioner/Investigator, Prince Herbert is also deadScene 2 will last until Monday, 14 February 2011, 09:00:00 (Esbjerg time)
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Post by CatInASuit on Feb 9, 2011 3:46:01 GMT -5
Oh grief. Not a good start to the Day.
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Post by guiri on Feb 9, 2011 3:50:03 GMT -5
That sucks, farewell Timmy and paranoia.
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Post by harmless little bunny on Feb 9, 2011 5:46:09 GMT -5
I tried to watch Guiri because he got most of the scum last game and I figured he might be a target at the beginning of this game. I almost decided to watch Malhaloth, but I still believed he was scum and I only see what happens to the person. Doesn't matter who I watched because:
So it looks like scum have a blocker.
I think it is very possible timmy was killed by a town Vig. With Paranoia's role reveal on death I am even more confident that Malhaloth is scum.
vote Malhaloth
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Post by CatInASuit on Feb 9, 2011 7:32:50 GMT -5
With Paranoia's role reveal on death I am even more confident that Malhaloth is scum. vote MalhalothOk, care to explain how paranoia being town means Mahaloth is scum?
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Post by CatInASuit on Feb 9, 2011 7:44:47 GMT -5
Day 1 Voting.
KidVermicious (5)(5 405) Renata [350], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [360], Sister Coyote [361], guiri [389], Suburban Plankton [405]
timmy (5)(5 436) Red Skeezix [310], Captain Pinkies [335], Hockey Monkey [380], Natlaw [408], CIAS [436]
bobarrgh (3)(4 247) Natlaw [213 397], guiri [238 282], Renata [241 256], texcat [247], sinjin [273], harmless little bunny [330]
harmless little bunny (2)(6 346) Renata [141 156], Romanic [164 366], Suburban Plankton [186 358], Sister Coyote [260 359], peekercpa [263], bobarrgh [286], KidVermicious [346 382] sinjin (2)(2 295) Paranoia [174], romola [295]
Captain Pinkies (1)(1 252) timmy[252] guiri (1)(1 290) Mahaloth [290] Sister Coyote (1)(1 366) Romanic [366]
Mahaloth (0)(6 282) Red Skeezix [153 309], Renata [156 241 256 341], harmless little bunny [168 330], KidVermicious [271 303], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [281 325], guiri [282 322] CatInASuit (0)(4 139) Romola [113 283], sinjin [128 273], harmless little bunny [131 168], Mahaloth [139 160] Hockey Monkey (0)(1 140) Renata [140,141]
Not voting (5) Merestil Haye, CatInASuit, naturallylazy, pedescribe, KidVermicious
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Post by Renata on Feb 9, 2011 8:23:25 GMT -5
Because he was an investigator, presumably, and Mahaloth claims something similar.
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 9, 2011 8:32:24 GMT -5
I used my power on Natlaw and Timmy. Natlaw's vote was on Timmy.
Natlaw is town, folks. That's the result of my first investigation.
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 9, 2011 8:37:24 GMT -5
Oh, and I have no idea why we have two investigator types.
Why is this reminding me of Halloween Extravaganza? I think Batman and me(I was Zedd) were town investigators, though I was the weak one there who could be blocked and stuff.
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timmy
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Post by timmy on Feb 9, 2011 9:02:32 GMT -5
I'm not dead!
Oh, wait, I am dead. Damn.
Well Scum, you couldn't get me lynched so you killed me in my sleep. Boo!
Go Town!
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timmy
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Post by timmy on Feb 9, 2011 9:04:20 GMT -5
NETA: Just to be fair, I have no idea who or how I was killed. Could be Scum, or Vig, or 3rd Party PFK.
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Post by timmy on Feb 9, 2011 9:04:56 GMT -5
NETA: NETA: I'll shut up now.
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Trepa Mayfield
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 9, 2011 9:40:23 GMT -5
Well, at least we know what Timmy's alignment was.
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Post by BobArrgh on Feb 9, 2011 10:03:38 GMT -5
Losing a cop role sucks. What is a "Questioner"? Is it a role where he gets to ask a question and the other person has to answer truthfully? (Sort of like Hypnagogic Bonafide in the Dr. Seuss game?)
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Hockey Monkey!
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Feb 9, 2011 11:24:41 GMT -5
Well crap.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 9, 2011 11:38:28 GMT -5
I used my power on Natlaw and Timmy. Natlaw's vote was on Timmy. Natlaw is town, folks. That's the result of my first investigation. Why Natlaw and timmy specifically? Any reason other than 'gut feeling'?
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 9, 2011 11:44:26 GMT -5
I used my power on Natlaw and Timmy. Natlaw's vote was on Timmy. Natlaw is town, folks. That's the result of my first investigation. Why Natlaw and timmy specifically? Any reason other than 'gut feeling'? Gut feeling, I guess. I have/had no idea who scum is, so picked them and just went with it. I considered other options, but went with them. That's it.
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 9, 2011 12:35:22 GMT -5
Forgive me if this was discussed elsewhere, but I have gotta ask. Do we have any idea why we have not been told when Night ends? Did I miss that or something? Or is this just a mystery in the game?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 9, 2011 12:45:30 GMT -5
Buggery buggery buggery. Forgive me if this was discussed elsewhere, but I have gotta ask. Do we have any idea why we have not been told when Night ends? Did I miss that or something? Or is this just a mystery in the game? My guess is there's some mechanic involved; we've had games where players could set the number of votes required for a hammer and I suppose it's possible that we have someone who can set the duration of Night. But I'm not sure it matters. I'm unlikely to make it back (much) until Friday at the absolute earliest, just FEveryone'sI
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 9, 2011 13:23:37 GMT -5
Well that really sucks about Timmy and Paranoia. What also really sucks is the number of votes leading to the KidV mislynch is equal to the number of people not even voting.
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Post by Romanic on Feb 9, 2011 14:31:48 GMT -5
vote: Sister CoyoteSame case than yesterDay (Day 1, post #419), and I am still waiting for a reaction from Sister Coyote, who might be ignoring this case purposely. Of course she just posted that she won't be around until friday, but I am a patient man. Well that really sucks about Timmy and Paranoia. What also really sucks is the number of votes leading to the KidV mislynch is equal to the number of people not even voting. There was only 4 non voters on Day 1, CatInASuit was reported as a non-voter but he voted for Timmy before the deadline. Worse than what you said is the number of votes we had wrong: The top 2 vote leaders, Timmy and KidV were both innocent, meaning 10 players were wrong. Gotta figure that there's some Scums hiding in these votes (I think I know one ;D)
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Post by Romanic on Feb 9, 2011 14:35:28 GMT -5
About the non voters, I think they should explain why they didn't vote and maybe tell us who they might have voted for, or who they are seeing scummy.
As per the rules, voting isn't mandatory, but that's not a reason to skip it:
So I'd like to hear from Merestil Haye, naturallylazy and pedescribe, rather sooner than later, please.
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Post by Romanic on Feb 9, 2011 14:56:19 GMT -5
On results from Mahaloth and bunny, I find it curious that the Scums would have decided to roleblock a tracker over an investigator, if they're both Town. They should be more worried about Mahaloth than bunny.
A counter argument would be that the Scum might want us to believe the scanner is Scum, but would they take a chance with someone who has the potential to scan 2 players at night? If they did, they're a ballsy bunch.
It's also possible that there's no Scum roleblocker and bunny is lying about it, because he can't give us a result.
I'm not ready to lynch one yet (and I like my case on Sis), but let's hear what you people think.
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Post by Renata on Feb 9, 2011 15:49:29 GMT -5
Given a town Mahaloth, town bunny, and scum roleblocker (and no scum redirector), plus a dead Archangel, I would think the default play for scum would be to block the watcher and try to kill the detective. I see no motive for blocking the watcher if you're not planning to interfere with the obvious target (mahaloth) in any way.
So my first thought is either scum did try to kill Mahaloth (and failed), with the other two kills most likely being vig and SK respectively; or my initial assumption is off and Mahaloth/bunny are not both town. Not sure where to go from there.
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Natlaw
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Post by Natlaw on Feb 9, 2011 16:02:55 GMT -5
2. I don't know what an archangel is, but we can talk about this toMorrow, I guess. Did you miss his claim at the end of Day One? I wish he had claimed a bit earlier and had voted. With both of the vote leaders town the vote record of Day One isn't too useful yet as scum could savely pick either KidV or timmy. Nice to know you investigated my correctly but as was said before it isn't a risky claim to make by a scum claimed as investigator. Why is this reminding me of Halloween Extravaganza? I think Batman and me(I was Zedd) were town investigators, though I was the weak one there who could be blocked and stuff. I don't remember Batman being unblockable (might have been) but I don't see how you can see a untrackable alignment investigator as weak. Yes the untrackable was also a downside and you had an option to investigate power instead but that hardly makes the role weaker than a normal cop. To bring it back to this game, I don't think your claimed role here is weak if truthful.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 9, 2011 16:02:58 GMT -5
I'm burning my lunch to post this. For those not willing to go back to Romanic's post yesterDay, here: The 2 posts made by Sister Coyote today are particularly devoid of commitment: Unvote: harmless little bunny
Vote: KidVermicious
For the double-standard vote on HLB, mostly. She unvoted bunny without giving a reason, and then join the bandwagon on KidV with a simple "me too" argument. Isn't it strange that she is voting for KidV for seeing bunny scummy, when she was, herself, previously thinking the same thing? My first reaction when I see someone voting for a scummy player, is not to suspect him. Like I said, I understand KidV's vote and it didn't bother me, despite the pro-Town claim. It did seem to bother Sister Coyote though, it's almost like bunny became clean after his claim, and KidV is suspicious for voting him. She's also the only one who hasn't responded to my question about the rule posts made by KidV. Granted she may be busy with her game on Giraffe, but I would have liked to hear what she thought of these posts and it mattered in her logic. Bottom line, I think Sister needed a place to rest her vote after unvoting bunny, and Renata's case was the perfect opportunity. I think she's Scum. My vote will stay on her today, unless something big happens. There's very little I can say to this. It's a weak case based on (an admittedly) weak Day One vote. My game time yesterDay was more limited than expected, same as toDay. I don't like ending my day with no vote on anyone; I found HLB's claim less suspicious than Mahaloth's (and still do), and didn't have a chance to come back to the board at all until after Day had ended. So I didn't even see KidV's claim until it was far too late to unvote him -- or I would have, and likely ended the day with no vote after all. Also, I'll give you one of my Scum tells: if I start making facile cases against someone, instead of posting a convoluted argument based mainly on my gut, I'm probably Scum. YesterDay's vote -- with limited explanation -- is really not an example of Scum behavior from me.
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Post by harmless little bunny on Feb 9, 2011 16:33:35 GMT -5
With Paranoia's role reveal on death I am even more confident that Malhaloth is scum. vote MalhalothOk, care to explain how paranoia being town means Mahaloth is scum? It doesn't mean Malhaloth is scum. It means we have a confirmed(dead) investigator. I was already suspicious of Malhaloth's claim and I think that with a confirmed investigator role it gives me more reason to doubt his claim. I think it unlikely that he would have the same or almost the same role. Also, as others have said, I was blocked, and I don't think scum would block me if they believed Malhaloth was being truthful. I agree that there are other possibilities (town or third party interference, failed scum kill, etc.) but I do think it is more likely that Malhaloth is scum.
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 9, 2011 16:58:17 GMT -5
To bring it back to this game, I don't think your claimed role here is weak if truthful. I don't think it is weak here. It was weak there. Look, here is my role PM from Halloween: There were other complications in that game, but I don't want to get back into that all the way. I agree that I am not a weak investigator in this game. I just confirmed you, for one thing. That's strong info. I think.
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 9, 2011 17:00:50 GMT -5
Ok, care to explain how paranoia being town means Mahaloth is scum? It doesn't mean Malhaloth is scum. It means we have a confirmed(dead) investigator. I was already suspicious of Malhaloth's claim and I think that with a confirmed investigator role it gives me more reason to doubt his claim. I think it unlikely that he would have the same or almost the same role. Also, as others have said, I was blocked, and I don't think scum would block me if they believed Malhaloth was being truthful. I agree that there are other possibilities (town or third party interference, failed scum kill, etc.) but I do think it is more likely that Malhaloth is scum. It's Mahaloth. One "L". I can't say much about your case that wasn't said yesterDay. I claimed, shared my investigation result, and....that's about it, really. I definitely see your points, but there isn't much more I can say other than "Nuh Uh" to the case against me.
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Post by Paranoia on Feb 9, 2011 17:18:49 GMT -5
BAH.
Go town!!!!!!!!
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