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Post by Merestil Haye on Feb 25, 2011 17:07:50 GMT -5
I see pedescribe has claimed mad bomber. I saw pedes's early play as trying to stay under the radar, and that is consistent with a mad bomber role. The only inexplicable action was his refusal to vote on Day 1; he might as well (to borrow a story from the ICE website) have stood in the middle of a path, held a fern frond in front of his face and shouted "I'M HIDING!" just as the hunting party came into view. With that claim we can safely eliminate pede as a Townie. Since he's claiming a win-stealing PFK, there's no point in a Mafiate making that claim either, since it's not going to save him. I'm inclined to accept it at face value, which means he's got to go. Vote: pedescribe
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Post by Merestil Haye on Feb 25, 2011 17:29:51 GMT -5
Renata.
The posts you are labelling as "avoidant" were in fact preparation for the main event.
They addressed minor issues (and requests for help) that came up while I was reading and rereading, so I posted on them while I was in the process of digesting the major issues. This meant I could read, chew them over then come back and post coherently (not something I always manage if I don't take the time).
Not getting the main vote done is discussed elsewhere.
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Post by Natlaw on Feb 25, 2011 17:33:52 GMT -5
I'm a Mad Bomber. So far I've tagged: timmy (who died) BobArrgh (who died) and Natlaw (who hasn't died...yet). So even if you let me live, I'd still have like no chance of winning (thus, boned). I can confirm I was not informed of being tagged as pedescribe claims I would not be. Not that that helps much. timmy as target seems a bit odd since he was tied for lynch Day One. But even if he is lying, there is no reason not to lynch him Today. Vote: pedescribe I don't like the...yet.
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Post by sinjin on Feb 25, 2011 17:41:42 GMT -5
[oog]Gah, I'm always apologizing in this game. My RL, which seemed to be cool* has sort of spiraled into Neverland. I am fighting the proverbial evil Dr. Hook. I should have noted that I'm not posting from work anymore because of Dr. Hook and by the time I get home and do all the associated things necessary to get my house ready to sell, I'm too fucking tired/stressed to post. I had a fucking visual migraine after work yesterday due to stress, bleh. So I"m mostly only available on weekends and I've had company for the last three weekends. Bottom line I am not carrying my weight in this game. Bygones. I have been reading at night but with my brain swirling with bullshit I'm not very coherent at this point. The wine probably doesn't help.[/oog] And now on preview I see I've missed two pages of posts, DOH! And does anyone believe that pede tagged timmy AND bobarrrgh AND Natlaw? Really? Could he be a jester? I don't know and I don't care. I think Jester's are dumb. If you win with that more power to ya. vote pede*real personal life is good. It's the job life that is sucky I know tl;dr Lovey moddies can we know who wants to be subbed out?
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Post by Renata on Feb 25, 2011 17:52:12 GMT -5
Renata. The posts you are labelling as "avoidant" were in fact preparation for the main event. They addressed minor issues (and requests for help) that came up while I was reading and rereading, so I posted on them while I was in the process of digesting the major issues. This meant I could read, chew them over then come back and post coherently (not something I always manage if I don't take the time). Not getting the main vote done is discussed elsewhere. This is why I wanted to finish at least the whole day and hopefully integrate it with day 2 and 3 as well, but I just couldn't get it done. If I live that long, I'll resume next week; if not, I hope it can be of use as a jumping off point. It is not the be-all, end-all of analysis.
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Post by special on Feb 25, 2011 17:53:02 GMT -5
Vote Countwith approximately 1 days, 21 hours and 7 minutes until DayEndPlayer (# of votes) (peak number of votes) voters [post in which vote was cast, post in which vote was removed] pedescribe (11) (11 123) Renata [22 78], Sister Coyote [41], Romanic [52], CatInASuit [59], guiri [64], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCoconuts [82], Red Skeezix [84], peekercpa [99], romola [102], Merestil Haye [120], Natlaw [122], sinjin [123] Captain Pinkies (1) (1 0) Romanic (1) (1 17) pedescribe [17] naturallylazy (1) (1 78) Renata [78] Natlaw (0) (1 80) Red Skeezix [80 84]Not Voting (4) Captain Pinkies, Idle Thoughts, texcat, harmless little bunny With these votes, pedescribe would be lynched.
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Post by special on Feb 25, 2011 19:31:09 GMT -5
Though he hasn't responded yet, Idle Thoughts has volunteered to sub in for Hockey Monkey.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 25, 2011 20:16:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I forgot HM was playing too.
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Post by texcat on Feb 25, 2011 20:56:53 GMT -5
Vote: pedescribe, the mad bomber.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 25, 2011 21:42:05 GMT -5
I'm a Mad Bomber. So far I've tagged: timmy (who died) BobArrgh (who died) and Natlaw (who hasn't died...yet). So even if you let me live, I'd still have like no chance of winning (thus, boned). I can confirm I was not informed of being tagged as pedescribe claims I would not be. Not that that helps much. Actually that was a lie too, if you're curious. See, I'm actually kind of close to winning. Right now. And if I had been less busy...participated more and not gotten caught, I could probably win...oh, say Day 5 or 6. If I hadn't gotten caught. I figured, when I claimed, I still had a slim chance that you all would try to catch scum. But that didn't happen either. Ah well. (an outside viewer may be wondering if I am trying for the "pity victory." I am not)
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 25, 2011 21:47:52 GMT -5
Vote: pedescribe, the mad bomber. That's all you're going to say?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 25, 2011 21:48:59 GMT -5
And part of the reason I threw in the towel is because I was really really busy today and yesterday and the day before. Meaning, even if I was competent enough to mount a defense, I sure as heck didn't have time to.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 25, 2011 21:49:33 GMT -5
I don't know why I'm telling you guys all this stuff. I guess I just like confessing.
Mafia: all of the fun of being a Catholic without any of the cannibalism!
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Feb 25, 2011 22:06:54 GMT -5
Say 10 Chia Bingo Managers and 5 expressions of shoe hate.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2011 8:24:10 GMT -5
thanks for the explanation nat. still i don't think it is necessarily the best habit to get into. but whatever floats your boat.
pede is obviously full of shit. i agree with whoever made the jester comment. if we lose because of that nonsense then, meh.
the only thing i can't figure out is that with only 6 dead and 18 living he shouldn't have been anywhere close to losing or winning regardless of who his targets were (if he is what he says he is). additionally, right after he makes his "i am boned" comment (before his claim) he only had five votes. matter of fact right after that ren unvotes him and votes for bunny. so he was back to four. now given the participation level he may very well have concluded that he was s.o.l. anyways. but it does strike me as odd.
but what's even odder is that ren follows up his "boned" comment with something along the lines of wanting pede to share his pm. and before he does the vote switch occurs.
back in a bit. need to check something.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2011 9:18:56 GMT -5
okie dokie.
all the following is paraphrased for the most part so to the extent that it does not accurately reflect the intended meaning please feel free to correct, addend. or redact.
this is how i read ren thus far.
she starts of D1 with a vote on bunny for a "me too" vote. she then unvotes and votes maha for bandwagoning. then it's an unvote and a vote for bob an a "me too" from guiri. then she accepts bob's typo and it's back to maha. maha claims and it's an unvote although she thinks that his role is too powerful. it's at this point that she mentions a scum redirector. D1 concludes with an unvote and a vote for kidv for not believing bunny's claim and not unvoting her.
D2 her vote settles on burby for as near as i can tell for not being confrontational enough. plus there was the "ping" from D1 which she can't remember and can't
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2011 10:01:13 GMT -5
okie dokie.
all the following is paraphrased for the most part so to the extent that it does not accurately reflect the intended meaning please feel free to correct, addend. or redact.
this is how i read ren thus far.
she starts of D1 with a vote on bunny for a "me too" vote. she then unvotes and votes maha for bandwagoning. then it's an unvote and a vote for bob on a "me too" from guiri. then she accepts bob's typo and it's back to maha. maha claims and it's an unvote although she thinks that his role is too powerful. it's at this point that she mentions a scum redirector. D1 concludes with a vote for kidv for not believing bunny's claim and not unvoting her.
D2 her vote settles on burby for as near as i can tell for not being confrontational enough. plus there was the "ping" from D1 which she can't remember and doesn't have time to find. well i went back through D1 and frankly i can see how it can't be found because i sure didn't see it. and while she mentions burby in passing (i think twice) i guess it wasn't much of a ping since it didn't merit a vote. and gosh knows there were enough of them. btw, i personally have no problem with voting early and voting often. but if a D2 vote is based on D1 behavior it seems natural that that person would have at least made it into the parthenon of other folks deserving a vote if only in an ancillary wing.
D3 it's a vote on bob for his "bus" vote on maha via a me too from romanic. well maybe so maybe no. i think when bob voted maha he was already for the most part doomed. now in hindsight it sure looks prophetic. but changing a vote from 7 -4 to 8 - 3 doesn't really meet my definition of bus. but to a great extent we could just be disagreeing on terminology/semantics. however, as part of a larger picture every pixel matters.
D4 we've got a vote for pede then the unvote and vote for bunny. i stop at that point since pede claims anti all sides right after this.
what i find interesting is a couple of things. first voting for someone for "me tooing" and then following that with a vote for someone else using "me too" logic. a vote for someone for not believing a claim followed two Days later with her own vote on that same claimant. although the only thing that has changed is that we have lynched two scum who claimed investigator which sure seems to bolster bunny's claim rather than weaken it.
and it's here that i interject my personal feelings about "me too" votes. in and of themselves they are not necessarily bad. i mean sometimes someone else has already espoused a position in such a manner that additional comments are merely noise. however, it does seem inconsistent to "me too" a vote and then hold someone else to task for their "me too" vote.
and we also have the D2 vote which is supported by stuff from D1 that she can't remember and can't find.
also, there is that weird ass comment about a scum redirector if maha flips town.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2011 10:05:14 GMT -5
oh well fuck a duck. i have no clue how that happened. ignore the first one where it looks like i stroked out in the middle of it.
but that would be a cool epitaph.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 26, 2011 12:08:39 GMT -5
Vote Pedescribe
I'm going to spend the rest of this day doing a catch up on all the other days. But in case anyone wants to help out: Anything huge I should know about that someone could just take a few seconds and make it a few sentences (like role claims that have been made, huge occurrences that have happened in-game, etc)?
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Post by Renata on Feb 26, 2011 12:12:39 GMT -5
okie dokie. all the following is paraphrased for the most part so to the extent that it does not accurately reflect the intended meaning please feel free to correct, addend. or redact. this is how i read ren thus far. she starts of D1 with a vote on bunny for a "me too" vote. she then unvotes and votes maha for bandwagoning. then it's an unvote and a vote for bob on a "me too" from guiri. then she accepts bob's typo and it's back to maha. maha claims and it's an unvote although she thinks that his role is too powerful. it's at this point that she mentions a scum redirector. D1 concludes with a vote for kidv for not believing bunny's claim and not unvoting her. You're awfully dismissive of and minimizing of the actual thought processes I had going on throughout that day. I wasn't exactly making a secret of what was in my head. These are not mischaracterizations, per se, but there's a lot left out. And yeah, I mentioned a redirector. In the context of if Mahaloth was telling the truth, I didn't see how there could be one; conversely, if one did turn up, I didn't see how Mahaloth could be telling the truth. Pretty logical, don't you think? Again, minimizing, as I was all over the Cookies and especially SisC conversations before I decided I didn't want to vote for either one. But whatever. I didn't like his characterization of Mahaloth's vote on Bill; it seemed to me to too easily dismiss the scumminess thereof. It's true my day two vote wasn't particularly well thought out; there was another game eating my brain at the time, in which I have since been night-killed. Again, it's right there. Given you did go back and look I don't see why you completely dismiss the reasoning, nor omit that the reason I said I wasn't voting SP was because I *was* voting Mahaloth. Who was scum. See above. I can't prove this obviously, but when I first saw that vote from Bob it immediately struck me as scummy. I didn't bring it up immediately on day three because, again, other game eating my brain -- I'd wanted to go and make a proper case, but Romanic beat me to it. I don't even know what you're trying to pin on me here. I didn't vote bunny, but natlazy. Did you read my reasoning? Did you miss that I started the dang bandwagon on ped? Now you're just annoying me. What? Have you confused bunny and lazy here? I think bunny is town. [/quote]and it's here that i interject my personal feelings about "me too" votes. in and of themselves they are not necessarily bad. i mean sometimes someone else has already espoused a position in such a manner that additional comments are merely noise. however, it does seem inconsistent to "me too" a vote and then hold someone else to task for their "me too" vote.[/quote] It was the other way around. Are you even paying attention? Yup. I'm scum. Good lord.
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Post by Renata on Feb 26, 2011 12:13:55 GMT -5
Vote PedescribeI'm going to spend the rest of this day doing a catch up on all the other days. But in case anyone wants to help out: Anything huge I should know about that someone could just take a few seconds and make it a few sentences (like role claims that have been made, huge occurrences that have happened in-game, etc)? There are no outstanding claims save bunny's (watcher, keeps getting roleblocked). We've lynched two scum and are about to lynch a claimed mad bomber.
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Post by Hockey Monkey! on Feb 26, 2011 13:04:25 GMT -5
Sorry I had to sub out guys. I'm having that kind of life right now. Everything is good, there is just too much meatspace stuff going on right now.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2011 17:01:20 GMT -5
hey ren i did mess up your vote was indeed for lazy and not crazy/bunny. my bad.
but i still don't get the pede unvote for a "may as well" reason.
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Post by Renata on Feb 26, 2011 18:14:12 GMT -5
There's nothing to get. I made my case on Ped. I like(d) my case on Ped. When I went back for review I found that I liked NatLazy for scum just as much. There were already several votes on Ped (I had had the feeling it was more than what there actually were, but that doesn't matter), so I decided to put NatLazy's name in blue as well. I fail to realize why this is supposed to be noteworthy, much less presumably something worthy of suspicion.
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Post by special on Feb 26, 2011 19:11:36 GMT -5
Vote Countwith approximately 0 days, 19 hours and 48 minutes until DayEndPlayer (# of votes) (peak number of votes) voters [post in which vote was cast, post in which vote was removed] pedescribe (13) (13 138) Renata [22 78], Sister Coyote [41], Romanic [52], CatInASuit [59], guiri [64], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCoconuts [82], Red Skeezix [84], peekercpa [99], romola [102], Merestil Haye [120], Natlaw [122], sinjin [123], texcat [128], Idle Thoughts [138] Captain Pinkies (1) (1 0) Romanic (1) (1 17) pedescribe [17] naturallylazy (1) (1 78) Renata [78] Natlaw (0) (1 80) Red Skeezix [80 84]Not Voting (3) Captain Pinkies, harmless little bunny, naturallylazy With these votes, pedescribe would be lynched.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 26, 2011 19:25:35 GMT -5
[colorBlue] Vote: pedescribe[/color], the mad bomber. [/quote] That's all you're going to say? [/quote] <bleached> hey, at least it's something. certainly more than naturallylazy or pinkies. i am beginning to suspect that perhaps they have run off together for some wild multi week sex romp where there is no internet access.
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Post by Red Skeezix on Feb 26, 2011 23:05:23 GMT -5
I think we're gonna have to deal with Pinkies and or lazy at some point. If they pick up any (or any more) final votes it will be easy for scum to lynch them in a game of 3 handed (if they are town).
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Post by special on Feb 27, 2011 11:57:16 GMT -5
Vote Countwith approximately 0 days, 3 hours and 2 minutes until DayEndPlayer (# of votes) (peak number of votes) voters [post in which vote was cast, post in which vote was removed] pedescribe (13) (13 138) Renata [22 78], Sister Coyote [41], Romanic [52], CatInASuit [59], guiri [64], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCoconuts [82], Red Skeezix [84], peekercpa [99], romola [102], Merestil Haye [120], Natlaw [122], sinjin [123], texcat [128], Idle Thoughts [138] Captain Pinkies (1) (1 0) Romanic (1) (1 17) pedescribe [17] naturallylazy (1) (1 78) Renata [78] Natlaw (0) (1 80) Red Skeezix [80 84]Not Voting (3) Captain Pinkies, harmless little bunny, naturallylazy With these votes, pedescribe would be lynched.
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