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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 19:47:00 GMT -5
I don't see how it can hurt or help but I did "receive 1 Scooby Snack from a mysterious source. "
No way for me to tell if it helps anyone. OR where it came from. really? None of mine have come from a mysterious source Since septimus claims this supports his 'claim' he would know the third ... BUT it still doesn't mean that he is TOWN. (to me) I saw no reason to withhold the information that I had recieved one. Knowledge is generally good for town so I am told. just not too much. My reasoning is that septimus should attempt to tell us WHY the three were chosen? Sending and or receiving a 'mysterious' snack at this time means nothing about alignment to me or I am guessing "you"
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Post by special on Apr 11, 2011 19:49:17 GMT -5
If you are asking why I sent the Scooby Snack, really just because. I have not sent or received on and I wanted to see what might or might not happen. So far, SQUAT! wait..wait...who is sending the scooby snacks? [Vinnie Barbarino] I'm so confused [/Vinnie Barbarino]
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 19:49:38 GMT -5
I used the quotes because those were the words used in the PM from Julie
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Post by special on Apr 11, 2011 19:51:41 GMT -5
I used the quotes because those were the words used in the PM from Julie Yes, I understand now. I was confused before, but I understand what you are saying now.
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Post by Renata on Apr 11, 2011 19:52:54 GMT -5
Septimus sent scooby snacks at night. This is the message I received during the night; it matches what LightFoot said "scooby snack from a mysterious source". (Separately I was asking why scuzzle just gave one to Bob.) Septimus mentinoed targeting three people this way; I don't know the identity of teh third.
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 19:53:13 GMT -5
Nor mine (Okay, I lied, but that was a simple question/statement to answer). I feel daft I'm not sure I track that statement. and I thought you were going to rest 'til the meds wore off
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Post by special on Apr 11, 2011 19:55:06 GMT -5
If you are asking why I sent the Scooby Snack, really just because. I have not sent or received on and I wanted to see what might or might not happen. So far, SQUAT! wait..wait...who is sending the scooby snacks? [Vinnie Barbarino] I'm so confused [/Vinnie Barbarino] goodness, I feel like I'm one step behind. I think I should just crawl back into bed. Here's what I think I get now. Renata and Lightfoot are 2 of the 3 that claim to have gotten a message from septimus which indicates that he can pass scooby snacks during the Night. Scuzzlebutt passed one in plain sight. yeah, I think I caught up ~~~~~~~~~ If I'm correct, wouldn't septimus' secret scooby passing ability make just as much if not more sense for a Scum? It would allow him to transfer snacks around with other Scum without it being apparent what he's doing and/or why? I mean, imagine if he'd passed snacks only to FCOD and storyteller, wouldn't we be seriously suspecting him now? Whereas, a Town would have no pressing need to do so.
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Post by Renata on Apr 11, 2011 19:57:13 GMT -5
Also, I'm not as convinced that this means that Septimus is likely town as I was originally. Given some time to work, my brain has inevitably come up with a few different reasons for scum to have this power. For instance, someone mentioned Scooby Snacks "working" on Shaggy; septimus' power could have been envisioned as a way to get more snacks to him for whatever purpose without having to pass them around publicly. Originally I thought, "oh, neat way to pass snacks from town to town without the scum knowing about it". But only three snacks total, and a one-shot deal? I don't really see the point.
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Post by Renata on Apr 11, 2011 19:59:08 GMT -5
@ Ed -- yeah. That's where my head is right now.
unvote[/color] vote: Septimus[/color]
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 20:03:19 GMT -5
wait..wait...who is sending the scooby snacks? [Vinnie Barbarino] I'm so confused [/Vinnie Barbarino] goodness, I feel like I'm one step behind. I think I should just crawl back into bed. Here's what I think I get now. Renata and Lightfoot are 2 of the 3 that claim to have gotten a message from septimus which indicates that he can pass scooby snacks during the Night. Scuzzlebutt passed one in plain sight. yeah, I think I caught up ~~~~~~~~~ If I'm correct, wouldn't septimus' secret scooby passing ability make just as much if not more sense for a Scum? It would allow him to transfer snacks around with other Scum without it being apparent what he's doing and/or why? I mean, imagine if he'd passed snacks only to FCOD and storyteller, wouldn't we be seriously suspecting him now? Whereas, a Town would have no pressing need to do so. I have no idea so I said something. when I first got the mysterious snack I didn't say anything wondering if it would mean something later . When septimus posted that I was given a clue and didn't notice it I decided to share the mysterious snack in hopes others could see more to it than I . Still not sure about Renata and since she seemed reluctant to share what "the sign" supposedly was I did. I hope that helps?
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Post by special on Apr 11, 2011 20:06:25 GMT -5
@ Ed -- yeah. That's where my head is right now. unvote[/color] vote: Septimus[/color][/quote] but what an odd gambit to try. I mean, did he really think it would look like a Town power?
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 20:08:36 GMT -5
I don't know what Snacks are for, or how many the players have, or even if it's good or bad to have them. I'll guess that It may not be particularly anti-Town to give Snacks to septimus. This quote is haunting me
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Post by Renata on Apr 11, 2011 20:10:39 GMT -5
Well, it worked on me originally, if that was the plan. Somebody should review the vote counts again, though.
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Post by Renata on Apr 11, 2011 20:35:37 GMT -5
Septimus aside --
who's not talking today? Losing FCOD and Story back to back had to sting a bit. I'd look it up myself but I'm too sleepy to focus.
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 20:46:28 GMT -5
Septimus aside -- who's not talking today? Losing FCOD and Story back to back had to sting a bit. I'd look it up myself but I'm too sleepy to focus. giving ppl chores? [/sarcasm] Joanie, I would like to see more of. RL has been tossed as an excuse by some, Time Zone issues by others The Day is long . There is time. (not making excuses I have some players I want to 'read' more)
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Post by BobArrgh on Apr 11, 2011 21:41:49 GMT -5
@Scuzzlebutt: OK, fair enough regarding not being on here during the work day. And, as you said, at least you voted. Thanks for the Scooby Snack.
Give 1 Scooby Snack to GnarlyCharlie.
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Post by BobArrgh on Apr 11, 2011 21:45:54 GMT -5
NETA: I certainly hope that Scooby Snacks aren't bombs and whoever has the most at a particular time dies.
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 21:45:59 GMT -5
@ Scuzzlebutt: OK, fair enough regarding not being on here during the work day. And, as you said, at least you voted. Thanks for the Scooby Snack. Give 1 Scooby Snack to GnarlyCharlie. That sends a mixed message I have nearly reached the end of my playday so I will catch up in about 13 hours
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 11, 2011 21:48:07 GMT -5
NETA I need to remember to bleach
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Post by Greedy Smurf on Apr 12, 2011 0:41:12 GMT -5
Crap crap crap crap.
I just typed up a huge post, and it got eaten. Damn it all and my work's firewall. I'll revisit tonight after work!
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Post by septimus on Apr 12, 2011 5:55:41 GMT -5
As others deduced, I can transfer my Snacks invisibly at Night. My name is Yabba Doo. My role PM makes it clear that I am a Townie. My role may be a difficult one, requiring a clever player, and I wonder if Julie's design might have led to an all-time classic game, were my role played more competently. Sorry for my blundering; If players wish, I can ask to be substituted out. The value of my role will depend on how cleverly I choose my Snack recipient(s). I can't pretend to be clever, but I do intend to distribute all or most of my Snacks every Night, rather than allowing a pile of Snacks to gather which Scum can destroy by NK'ing me. ( julie confirms that my Night-time donations occur before NK's.) I waited to claim, hoping that I could learn a little more about Snacks; it seemed good (both for understanding the tactics of my role and for possible future scum-hunting) to get some idea of the distribution of Snacks before giving the clue of my role's existence to Scum. But players were reluctant to volunteer info. We learned that special ed has received at least ten Snacks from the Moderator; that BobArrgh has a "growing collection"; Renata claims to have had an even-number of Snacks added to her account on Morning 2; sister coyote received at least 1 from the Moderator Day 1; and only a few other tidbits of info. ( And just watch: Though I've been more forthcoming about Snacks than anyone except perhaps special ed the great philanthropist, more questions rather than answers will be directed at me after this post. ) To do my job (which may include passing Snacks in the Night-time to protect my stash from an NK), I need to know the names of some Townies willing to receive Snacks. @ sister coyote - I think you're Town. Would you be willing to receive 1 or more Snacks from me? Obviously, I don't know how many Snacks the various players have. There's only one player I know of whom I'm certain has more than 3 -- you know who you are -- you have at least five Snacks that I know of. I ask you to give most of those five Snacks some time early toDay to some other player you believe is Town. Without such a show of confidence, I'll consider voting to Lynch you. It may not be particularly anti-Town to give Snacks to septimus. This quote is haunting me It was intended as a true and helpful remark. If I had more confidence in my Mafia-playing skill, I'd have phrased it differently, perhaps "likely to be pro-Town." but what an odd gambit to try. I mean, did he really think it would look like a Town power? For those of us with poor reading skill, are you suggesting - septimus is scum and what a foolish scum indeed
or what? NETA: I certainly hope that Scooby Snacks aren't bombs and whoever has the most at a particular time dies. I don't know. Some of the unexplained NK's were of players who'd received Snacks and not passed any on. My important "magic" power might be to invisibly transfer a large block of Snacks to An Important Person at a key moment. However, - I don't know who that Important Person is.
- Skeptical Townies may require me to disclose my Night transfers, so public Day-time transfers not involving me would be just as good.
I can more-or-less ignore my special power, becoming almost vanilla; I think Scum might still be worried enough to waste a NK on me. If Town prefers instead to misLynch me, I'll go quietly. I suppose my allegedly anti-Town behavior is indefensible.
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Post by guiri on Apr 12, 2011 6:06:20 GMT -5
So, Septimus, it was not a one-off power and not limited to one snack per recipient: you can freely send snacks to other players at Night, the only limit being the quantity of snacks in your posession. Correct?
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Post by special on Apr 12, 2011 6:52:39 GMT -5
For those of us with poor reading skill, are you suggesting - septimus is scum and what a foolish scum indeed
or what? I'm suggesting that your power makes you suspiciously look like Scum, but I cannot understand a Scum-motivated reason for you to have claimed as you did. That doesn't mean there isn't one, it just means I can't figure it out.
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Post by septimus on Apr 12, 2011 7:03:38 GMT -5
So, Septimus, it was not a one-off power and not limited to one snack per recipient: you can freely send snacks to other players at Night, the only limit being the quantity of snacks in your posession. Correct? Correct. I don't recall implying a one-snack limit. The one-time "one-time" was a white lie (due to paranoia of some NK variation?). I know lying is a scum-tell. Please do Lynch me if that's the way you all feel. But remember I was first to identify our Godfather, after I flip Town.
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Post by Renata on Apr 12, 2011 7:09:56 GMT -5
What are you talking about? And why don't you just post your rolePM?
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Post by Renata on Apr 12, 2011 7:17:11 GMT -5
Oh, you mean Daphne=godfather. But you're not voting Ed. OK, that's nice.
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Post by special on Apr 12, 2011 7:37:26 GMT -5
septimus, why would it be pro-Town to give you snacks if you have no use for them?
Have you considered that the Scum might be able to steal them from you?
What evidence do you have, aside from your own assurances that you are Town? Is it jsut the ability to pass snacks? Are you hoping that if you say it often enough people will believe it?
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Apr 12, 2011 7:53:00 GMT -5
I have some down time at work today so I will be on more. Just so everyone knows, I am a Instructor and there are times that I am not available, for such reasons.
Well Septimus claim on his role adds a whole other level to my confusion about him. I will place him on the back burner for being scum, for the moment.
Joanie has not been around very much. her first day vote was for Ed, if his claim is true and at this point no one else has come to counter his claim, he is Town. Her 2nd day vote was for Lightfoot, which due to her vote on FCOD could give her props for being town, not saying that SCUM won't vote for SCUM...
Captain Pinkies voted for TOWN on day 1 and didn't vote on day 2. He has not been around at all after the pissing match with Ed[/b/]. Didn't see any reason from him for not voting on Day 2.
I have to teach a 2hr class at 10am so I will be back after that.
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Post by septimus on Apr 12, 2011 7:56:44 GMT -5
1. septimus, why would it be pro-Town to give you snacks if you have no use for them? 2. Have you considered that the Scum might be able to steal them from you? 3. What evidence do you have, aside from your own assurances that you are Town? Is it jsut the ability to pass snacks? Are you hoping that if you say it often enough people will believe it? 1. I don't even know what the Snacks are for, but at some critical point it may be advantageous to pass them to a Town Champion invisibly. On the plus side, I'm probably the only one -- Town or Scum -- who can do the invisibly. On the minus-side my judgement of whom to pass them to is inexperienced, but Players could advise me, just as they might a beginner as Vigilante, who to pass them to. This could become a deep Wifom, though that wouldn't be my intent. 2. Are you serious? Do I even have any to steal right now, if none are given me? (I did write "one-Time")? Have you seen any likelihood of stealing? I was starting to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this seems too smudgy to be called pro-Town. 3. This is only my 4th or 5th game, playing Town in every one. In every game I'm labeled "over-eager to call oneself town." If I ever do PM as scum, I'm asking to be subbed out. As to "proof of Town", I'll let you go first.
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Post by special on Apr 12, 2011 8:06:09 GMT -5
1. septimus, why would it be pro-Town to give you snacks if you have no use for them? 2. Have you considered that the Scum might be able to steal them from you? 3. What evidence do you have, aside from your own assurances that you are Town? Is it jsut the ability to pass snacks? Are you hoping that if you say it often enough people will believe it? 1. I don't even know what the Snacks are for, but at some critical point it may be advantageous to pass them to a Town Champion invisibly. On the plus side, I'm probably the only one -- Town or Scum -- who can do the invisibly. On the minus-side my judgement of whom to pass them to is inexperienced, but Players could advise me, just as they might a beginner as Vigilante, who to pass them to. This could become a deep Wifom, though that wouldn't be my intent. 2. Are you serious? Do I even have any to steal right now, if none are given me? (I did write "one-Time")? Have you seen any likelihood of stealing? I was starting to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this seems too smudgy to be called pro-Town. 3. This is only my 4th or 5th game, playing Town in every one. In every game I'm labeled "over-eager to call oneself town." If I ever do PM as scum, I'm asking to be subbed out. As to "proof of Town", I'll let you go first. So, you think it's unlikely that a snack stealing power exists? it's the amin reason why I've given away so many snacks. I didn't want to have a large amount and have them get stolen by a non-Town player. The only evidence that I have that I'm Town (and it's evidence, not proof) is that I've claimed a role that another player has confirmed exists and that doesn't make sense as a Scum power. Now it's possible we're both Scum. it's possible I'm lying and the real kidnapee is remaining silent. Many things are possible. That's why it's only evidence and not proof. There, I went first. Your turn.
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