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Post by Sister Coyote on May 2, 2011 11:54:54 GMT -5
In another moment down went Alice after [the rabbit], never once considering how in the world she was to get out again.
The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way, and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well. Welcome to Wonderland. It's a bit darker a place than you remember, perhaps, but you're down the rabbit hole now, and the only way out is through. Through what, you ask? Through the Tulgey woods, through a croquet hoop, through... ...through the risk of death. That's right. Someone's decided that it's time for a shake up, perhaps a little political overthrow, and you're all caught in the nightmare. You need to find the agitators and end them, before Wonderland sinks permanently into darkness. Day One begins now. It will end at 6 p.m., PST, on Friday, May 6.Rules Thread Player ListIf someone would be so kind as to nudge ace093, the mod would be ever so appreciative.
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Post by Archangel on May 2, 2011 12:01:59 GMT -5
I think I know who Ace is so I'm sending a nudge. If I'm wrong, I'll report back.
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Post by Sister Coyote on May 2, 2011 12:06:02 GMT -5
Grazie.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 2, 2011 12:18:29 GMT -5
checking in. great timing SisC! just wrapped up Archangel's game on FB.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 2, 2011 12:58:57 GMT -5
I think I know who Ace is so I'm sending a nudge. If I'm wrong, I'll report back. I read this 3 times as "I think I know who Alice is..." and was wondering what sort of weird first-post-claim this was... I think I'll go get another cup of coffee now.
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Post by LightFoot on May 2, 2011 13:03:34 GMT -5
checking in. great timing SisC! just wrapped up Archangel's game on FB. ** shakes fist I almost had you too
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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 2, 2011 13:08:24 GMT -5
checking in. great timing SisC! just wrapped up Archangel's game on FB. ** shakes fist I almost had you too ha ha ha! in the end, it wasn't even close. Scum was CLOBBERED!!! ;D
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Post by metallicsquink on May 2, 2011 13:23:14 GMT -5
Checking in.
Also, I'm not sure I understand this rule: I'm going to take a page out of Ulla and Ed's book: Non-participants will get one Final Vote per day of non-participation; Final Votes carry from Day to Day and are cumulative.
Is the vote coming from the mod? Is a non-participant someone who has posted absolutely nothing? When that player actually starts to participate, are all votes removed? If these are mod questions, I can post them to SisterCoyote but I was just curious if anyone has played in a game with this rule before (because I have not).
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Post by Archangel on May 2, 2011 13:24:14 GMT -5
Nope, no claim! Just a missing player I think I am in touch with.
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Post by Dirx on May 2, 2011 13:33:26 GMT -5
I can't think of anything here to discuss yet, so, I'm just posting "Hi, how are ya?"
I want to make sure I give both games I'm in equal attention--I haven't been in concurrent games from the get-go before without subbing out. I don't want to end up ignoring one in favour of the other.
Oh, wait, just thought of something: From the rules thread: "There are undoubtedly going to be Voting Shenanigans during this game (see the Role List)."
and the role list:
* Watcher * Vigilante * Vanilla * Survivor * Strongman * Serial Killer * Scotsman * Roleblocker * Politician * Mad Bomber * Lie Detector * Jack of All Trades * Gossip * Godfather * Doctor * Cop
The only role here that messes with votes is the Politician (possibly the JoaT, too). Granted, she did say any sort of role variants are possible, but still. At the very least we can be reasonably certain we have some version of a politician, and with the "undoubtedly" qualifier above, we can guess that we might also have additional vote-shenaniganers. I'd say no more than 2 or 3 total roles, tops, unless messing with votes is somehow an integral part of the game.
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Post by Sister Coyote on May 2, 2011 13:40:46 GMT -5
Checking in. Also, I'm not sure I understand this rule: I'm going to take a page out of Ulla and Ed's book: Non-participants will get one Final Vote per day of non-participation; Final Votes carry from Day to Day and are cumulative. Is the vote coming from the mod? Is a non-participant someone who has posted absolutely nothing? When that player actually starts to participate, are all votes removed? If these are mod questions, I can post them to SisterCoyote but I was just curious if anyone has played in a game with this rule before (because I have not). Any player who posts absolutely nothing during the 5-day Day will obtain one Final Vote. Participation does not remove a Final Vote obtained for a previous Day.
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Post by LightFoot on May 2, 2011 13:58:33 GMT -5
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 2, 2011 14:01:56 GMT -5
Hello all! gnarlycharlie can you say shutout! We did not even lynch a TOWN by mistake. I have been walking around the Mall (Washington DC and not the shopping mall) all day so I am going to relax and check back later. Juts wanted to check in.
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Post by LightFoot on May 2, 2011 14:03:58 GMT -5
Except that 2 of the roles listed for this game are NOT on the list
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Post by LightFoot on May 2, 2011 14:12:42 GMT -5
NETA and the link didn't paste right
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Post by metallicsquink on May 2, 2011 14:18:35 GMT -5
Checking in. Also, I'm not sure I understand this rule: I'm going to take a page out of Ulla and Ed's book: Non-participants will get one Final Vote per day of non-participation; Final Votes carry from Day to Day and are cumulative. Is the vote coming from the mod? Is a non-participant someone who has posted absolutely nothing? When that player actually starts to participate, are all votes removed? If these are mod questions, I can post them to SisterCoyote but I was just curious if anyone has played in a game with this rule before (because I have not). Any player who posts absolutely nothing during the 5-day Day will obtain one Final Vote. Participation does not remove a Final Vote obtained for a previous Day. I see. So if I did not participate at all toDay but participated the rest of the game, that one non-participation vote would carry throughout the rest of the game. Is that it? [/color]
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Post by Sister Coyote on May 2, 2011 14:24:01 GMT -5
That is what the rule states, yes.
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Post by Colby11 on May 2, 2011 15:05:58 GMT -5
Hi everyone, just thought that I would pop by, since this game just started....
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Post by fluiddruid on May 2, 2011 15:08:12 GMT -5
The only role here that messes with votes is the Politician (possibly the JoaT, too). Granted, she did say any sort of role variants are possible, but still. At the very least we can be reasonably certain we have some version of a politician, and with the "undoubtedly" qualifier above, we can guess that we might also have additional vote-shenaniganers. I'd say no more than 2 or 3 total roles, tops, unless messing with votes is somehow an integral part of the game. I've never played with a Politician (or any other vote-meddler). How does it work? Does the day just start off with a vote, or is it "behind the scenes" and just take effect at lynchtime, or is it just a double-counting vote?
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Post by Dirx on May 2, 2011 15:15:45 GMT -5
I've never played with a Politician (or any other vote-meddler). How does it work? Does the day just start off with a vote, or is it "behind the scenes" and just take effect at lynchtime, or is it just a double-counting vote? They can vary. Sometimes they "buy" another player's vote, which means it doesn't matter who that player votes for, it only counts for who the Politician designated to the Mod. Other times, the politician simply adds a vote--from nowhere--onto a player of their choice. The extra vote might have to go on whoever the Politician is publicly voting for, but not always. In both cases, the vote is almost always present from the beginning of the Day (if it's a Night action), or as soon as it happens (if a Day action). The vote discrepancy is usually noticed upon the first vote-count after it is placed, though it's not always clear who or what was the cause. Invisible extra votes tend to stray toward Bastard territory. There are also plenty more variations (Politician can be an easy role to monkey with), but these two seem to be the most common, by far.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 2, 2011 16:00:56 GMT -5
Ok, I have read all the roles and the only one I cannot find a description for is Gossip. What powers does this person have?
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Post by septimus on May 2, 2011 16:16:52 GMT -5
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 2, 2011 16:26:04 GMT -5
Thank you, there are so many wiki pages with roles on them. I think I could give you a run for your money with Village Idiot.
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Post by ace093 on May 2, 2011 18:01:51 GMT -5
am here and chekcing in all so sorry had trouble getting hrere!!
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Post by metallicsquink on May 2, 2011 18:10:36 GMT -5
So what should we talk about? It feels like it has been ages since my last Day One.
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Post by ace093 on May 2, 2011 18:22:48 GMT -5
mine 2 i am hoping to survive longer in this game this is my 3rd game i have died on day one or 2 in the last games hoping to make it to day three or furthrer... lol
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Post by Dirx on May 2, 2011 18:28:04 GMT -5
We should talk about the horribly flimsy excuse that will inevitably be used for the Day 1 lynch, and then the rationalizing about "Well, he/she seemed scummy as all hell, and I was so sure about this lynch..." * Hm... Zeener doesn't appear to be in this game. That makes this harder. To be honest, without special game mechanics, I can't really think of much to talk about on Day 1 unless/until something actually happens. I kinda suck at Day 1 because of that. *I initially wrote "Where's the : science: smiley when you need it?" and, lo and behold, it appeared on preview! Whoever implemented that can have all of my internets!
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Post by metallicsquink on May 2, 2011 18:41:05 GMT -5
I was also looking for Zeener to say something easily misinterpreted. But in my defense regarding the many times I've voted for a townie Zeener, he really does seem scummy most of the time.
I agree that the mechanics don't leave much for discussion. I was thinking about trying to figure out which roles might have which alignment but then I thought that wouldn't be very enlightening.
If there is a town gossip, it will be interesting to see what sort of results he/she gets. I've never seen that role so I'd like to know what sort of information they can get and how useful it would be (given that it might not be accurate). I'm wondering if it might end up being more of a distraction than anything.
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Post by Dirx on May 2, 2011 18:55:55 GMT -5
I agree that the mechanics don't leave much for discussion. I was thinking about trying to figure out which roles might have which alignment but then I thought that wouldn't be very enlightening. There are so many characters in the Wonderland universe--major, minor, and not-in-the-books/adaptations-but-still-hypothetically-possible--that I wouldn't know where to start in guessing what characters are in the game. And even then, any mod should be able to give any role to any character (Alice as a serial killer? The Jabberwocky as the Town Doc? Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee on opposite factions? Hells yes, easy as pie). It's just not worth trying to guess what is what; instead I just try to analyze any claims and see if they make sense from a gameplay point of view. Yeah, I'm rather curious about this as well. There was an eavesdropper* in the Ragnarok game, which was interesting, and with hindsight, the clues were damn incriminating, though no one noticed until it was too late. Your guess is right--it generated a lot of confusion, and very little useful results (though it had the potential to be incredibly powerful for Town). *The eavesdropper was PMed a random snippet of a post in the Scum thread each Night. Obviously vetted to avoid spoiling who was who, but posting styles and vague hints at plans were fair game. The gossip may or may not behave the same way, I guess. I have no idea, really.
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Post by special on May 2, 2011 19:15:30 GMT -5
We don't have any indication that a gossip would be a Town role though.
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