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Post by Sister Coyote on May 10, 2011 16:25:51 GMT -5
Rule violation penalties will be on a sliding scale; the first violation by any person will result in a one-day Penalty Vote How will penalty votes be identified? Would they appear as a mysterious additional vote on a player without any explanation? No Comment
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Post by Renata on May 10, 2011 16:27:26 GMT -5
Current vote count:
Archangel (3,3): CatInaSuit [26], metallicsquink [37], Captain Pinkies [90] Captain Pinkies (2,2): Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47], septimus [88] Fluiddruid (2,1): archangel [30] CatInaSuit (0,1): septimus [60,88]
With these votes, Archangel would be lynched.
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Post by guiri on May 10, 2011 16:35:51 GMT -5
The extra vote on fluid seems straightforward: whether he was so informed or not, his mandatory Night-time vote, when unspecified, is cast on himself. I don't know that it's so straightforward. Assuming her role is for real, if she(?) got a penalty vote for not submitting her target, she hasn't actually made a prediction for toDay's lynch. However, if she actually voted for herself using her secret Night vote, she's predicted that she's going to be lynched toDay. She then made an unforced claim of 3rd party politician/mad-bomber who forgot to submit the extra vote and appears to have been given a penalty vote as punishment. If she's lynched toDay, she'll meet her wincon and go off to 3rd party limbo waiting for end game.
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Post by Archangel on May 10, 2011 17:07:57 GMT -5
The extra vote on fluid seems straightforward: whether he was so informed or not, his mandatory Night-time vote, when unspecified, is cast on himself. Presumably the Politician controlling Pinkies is separate from fluid, the quasi-Politician. The invisible Nighttime vote and controlled Daytime vote cannot be confused for each other. And there is yet a 3rd shenanigan apparently causing Suburban Plankton's vote not to register! Suburban is attempting to vote for Politician-controlled Pinkies, who is voting for Archangel, who is voting for the quasi-Politician fluid! Can all that be coincidence? I certainly think Pinkies should do a complete reveal now if he doesn't want to be Lynched. I have to say that the last game I played, a PFK won (by claiming survivor) and I'm none too keen on keeping fluid in the game at this point. What was that PFK's wincon? Did he manipulate Town into helping? Surely, if fluiddruid is PFK, then the 33% vote thing is not his wincon. He might have a secret wincon which is vote-related and trying to manipulate us into helping him, but I'm not sure there's urgency. Two extra votes dictated by confirmed Town could be very useful, at least when we get some confirmations. I don't remember exactly what the wincon was, but he cooperated with/manipulated town until he almost got there, and then turned on them and cooperated with scum.
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Post by special on May 10, 2011 17:15:18 GMT -5
The extra vote on fluid seems straightforward: whether he was so informed or not, his mandatory Night-time vote, when unspecified, is cast on himself. I don't know that it's so straightforward. Assuming her role is for real, if she(?) got a penalty vote for not submitting her target, she hasn't actually made a prediction for toDay's lynch. However, if she actually voted for herself using her secret Night vote, she's predicted that she's going to be lynched toDay. She then made an unforced claim of 3rd party politician/mad-bomber who forgot to submit the extra vote and appears to have been given a penalty vote as punishment. If she's lynched toDay, she'll meet her wincon and go off to 3rd party limbo waiting for end game. huh yeah
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Post by Colby11 on May 10, 2011 18:09:56 GMT -5
Sorry for the lack of discussion on my part, I've been busy with finals this week.
Reading through Day 2 to put in my input
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Post by Meeko on May 10, 2011 18:47:04 GMT -5
SnippedFor clarification I AM TOWN ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I am placing the following vote. Once I make this vote I will not change it for the rest of the day. Vote: Archangel Oh... It has been a busy couple days on the home front. You start this excerpt by clarifying your "" Town "" post. Note that you didn't actually answer why you needed to clarify here. Then, you remain on the cryptic track with "I am placing the following vote" [[Obviously]] and " Once I make this vote I will not change it" ...... Either you are making it [and if so you can change it] OR you, in a manner of speaking, are NOT making it. The words you use are waaay to stilted for comfort. Just a tad too beating around the bush for me. You are acting one way, and the commentary that goes with it fails. The commentary with this vote strikes me as being just as lacking as your "" Town "" post. I could be wrong here, but until I get some more explanation from you I will: Vote Pinkies
- However I do agree with something you said : Oh... It has been a busy couple days on the home front. Seconded. I accepted a cashier position at a well known, Florida based supermarket, back in February. I was told the position would be part time. We opened a new store. Half of the workforce from the store I still work at, transferred over to that store.
My part time job has catapulted into 36, 39:51, and so far this week, 32 hours, most often having me work from afternoon through midnight. To say that this job is getting the best of me, would be an understatement. For those of you who have been a Supermarket Cashier, I am sorry if I have ever underestimated how hard your job is. For those of you who haven't been a Supermarket Cashier, try it for a week, if you ever get the chance.
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Post by Meeko on May 10, 2011 18:51:02 GMT -5
NETA : 36 39 and 32 have been my hours per each week. I had a day shift today, 8-5:30.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 10, 2011 19:08:07 GMT -5
SnippedFor clarification I AM TOWN ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I am placing the following vote. Once I make this vote I will not change it for the rest of the day. Vote: Archangel Oh... It has been a busy couple days on the home front. You start this excerpt by clarifying your "" Town "" post. Note that you didn't actually answer why you needed to clarify here. i believe that Cap was asked to state his alignment more clearly because his 'TOWN' answer may not be properly evaluated by a LIE DETECTOR.
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Post by Dirx on May 10, 2011 19:08:46 GMT -5
You start this excerpt by clarifying your "" Town "" post. Note that you didn't actually answer why you needed to clarify here. Then, you remain on the cryptic track with "I am placing the following vote" [[Obviously]] and " Once I make this vote I will not change it" ...... Either you are making it [and if so you can change it] OR you, in a manner of speaking, are NOT making it. The words you use are waaay to stilted for comfort. Just a tad too beating around the bush for me. You are acting one way, and the commentary that goes with it fails. The commentary with this vote strikes me as being just as lacking as your "" Town "" post. I could be wrong here, but until I get some more explanation from you I will: Vote Pinkies
Hi. Have you read the rest of his posts yet? Also, I'm amused that you're chastising his lack of commentary when you've provided very little yourself.
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Post by Archangel on May 10, 2011 20:02:11 GMT -5
Cap, did you have to vote *me* or just the leading vote getter?
Holey Moley, what do you think of this?
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Post by LightFoot on May 10, 2011 21:08:46 GMT -5
Catching up. but at this time: fluiddruid claims a 3rd party with an 'extra' vote. Claims to not have used it and appears to have a penalty vote for that. UNLESS The extra vote on fluid seems straightforward: whether he was so informed or not, his mandatory Night-time vote, when unspecified, is cast on himself. I don't know that it's so straightforward. Assuming her role is for real, if she(?) got a penalty vote for not submitting her target, she hasn't actually made a prediction for toDay's lynch. However, if she actually voted for herself using her secret Night vote, she's predicted that she's going to be lynched toDay. She then made an unforced claim of 3rd party politician/mad-bomber who forgot to submit the extra vote and appears to have been given a penalty vote as punishment. If she's lynched toDay, she'll meet her wincon and go off to 3rd party limbo waiting for end game.Underlinig mine It seems that Captain Pinkies was somehow compelled to vote . AND one of the votes on Captain Pinkies is not 'counted'. Not sure how that works Surburban Plankton's vote specifically OR just the 2nd vote on Cap ? EOD1 vote count That's it. The mod needs someone else, someone competent, to do her vote counts. So I assume these are corrected In D1 the the votes on Captain Pinkies, CIaS and fluiddruid were not 'counted' or they were changed Since Cap's involved in 2 no make that 3 of these odd twists it does make him look very suspect to me to test the theory that it could be everyother vote I will Vote: Captain Pinkies this vote will stand until atleast the next vote count. then CIaS will be next for the porpoise of science
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Post by LightFoot on May 10, 2011 21:14:31 GMT -5
Subarban Plankton 's other votes 'registered' D1 so............. It seems this is a Captain Pinkies thing
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Post by Dirx on May 10, 2011 21:21:41 GMT -5
Or possibly something happened last Night to affect Suburban's votes.
Suburban: Could you try changing your vote to another target to see if it's your vote in general, or just your voting of Pinkies? The former would make more sense, I think, but hey, can't hurt to make sure.
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Post by LightFoot on May 10, 2011 21:36:46 GMT -5
Or possibly something happened last Night to affect Suburban's votes. Suburban: Could you try changing your vote to another target to see if it's your vote in general, or just your voting of Pinkies? The former would make more sense, I think, but hey, can't hurt to make sure. thought about asking that too, but since Surburban's vote changes did 'count' D1 I discarded it. (I probably should not have) We have 3 players with wacky vote counts. D1 alone.
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Post by special on May 10, 2011 21:38:40 GMT -5
Or possibly something happened last Night to affect Suburban's votes. Suburban: Could you try changing your vote to another target to see if it's your vote in general, or just your voting of Pinkies? The former would make more sense, I think, but hey, can't hurt to make sure. thought about asking that too, but since Surburban's vote changes did 'count' D1 I discarded it. (I probably should not have) We have 3 players with wacky vote counts. D1 alone. what vote counts on day 1 are wacky? I don't see it after a cursory glance.
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Post by fluiddruid on May 10, 2011 21:48:53 GMT -5
For all clarity regarding myself: As I mentioned I posted my entire PM. There have been no omissions, and to clarify even more, I have had no private communication with the GM regarding my role. As such I have no information other than what I've posted. If you're requesting me to contact the GM privately for some reason, I can do that, but it seems to make more sense to ask the GM directly in the thread. That way there's no way you can doubt the answer. If no answer is forthcoming and you want me to ask questions about my role, let me know. I am presuming that the vote on me is a penalty just as others have said. I have no extra knowledge. No, I did not place it, but I do not see any reason why I could not place it. However, I did not. Perhaps foolish on my part but I simply didn't even think of it at an option for fulfilling my win condition. Even if I had, it seems risky, since the extra vote would have (presumably) become apparent and then I'm sure people would have suspected all kinds of possible detriments to voting for me. Closed setups...
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Post by Dirx on May 10, 2011 22:04:54 GMT -5
For all clarity regarding myself: As I mentioned I posted my entire PM. There have been no omissions, and to clarify even more, I have had no private communication with the GM regarding my role. As such I have no information other than what I've posted. If you're requesting me to contact the GM privately for some reason, I can do that, but it seems to make more sense to ask the GM directly in the thread. That way there's no way you can doubt the answer. If no answer is forthcoming and you want me to ask questions about my role, let me know. Why didn't you contact the moderator? Given your D1 post I quoted earlier in this thread, you seemed to have questions about politician votes. Sis would obviously know more about your role than we would. Also, regarding the underlined bit: you know that mods won't do that, right? Doing so would mod-confirm you, which would break the game. We could all ask the mod to publicly answer questions about our roles/alignments, and if she were insane enough to comply, then we would no longer have a working game.
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Post by LightFoot on May 10, 2011 22:31:26 GMT -5
thought about asking that too, but since Surburban's vote changes did 'count' D1 I discarded it. (I probably should not have) We have 3 players with wacky vote counts. D1 alone. what vote counts on day 1 are wacky? I don't see it after a cursory glance. See my post above # 161
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Post by Dirx on May 10, 2011 22:38:12 GMT -5
I admit, I skimmed this post, and thought you were talking about Today's vote shenanigans: EOD1 vote count So I assume these are corrected In D1 the the votes on Captain Pinkies, CIaS and fluiddruid were not 'counted' or they were changed Since Cap's involved in 2 no make that 3 of these odd twists it does make him look very suspect to me to test the theory that it could be everyother vote I will Vote: Captain Pinkies [/color] this vote will stand until atleast the next vote count. then CIaS will be next for the porpoise of science[/quote] I don't see what voting weirdness you're seeing on Day 1. All the correct vote tallies are there--Pinkies with 2 (ace and suburban), CIAS with 1 (Honest Moley), and fluiddruid with 1 (MHaye).
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Post by LightFoot on May 10, 2011 22:41:10 GMT -5
For all clarity regarding myself: As I mentioned I posted my entire PM. There have been no omissions, and to clarify even more, I have had no private communication with the GM regarding my role. As such I have no information other than what I've posted. If you're requesting me to contact the GM privately for some reason, I can do that, but it seems to make more sense to ask the GM directly in the thread. That way there's no way you can doubt the answer. If no answer is forthcoming and you want me to ask questions about my role, let me know. Why didn't you contact the moderator? Given your D1 post I quoted earlier in this thread, you seemed to have questions about politician votes. Sis would obviously know more about your role than we would. Also, regarding the underlined bit: you know that mods won't do that, right? Doing so would mod-confirm you, which would break the game. We could all ask the mod to publicly answer questions about our roles/alignments, and if she were insane enough to comply, then we would no longer have a working game. I have to side with Dirx here. The first game I played with a role, I asked all kinds of questions. Granted sometimes I got a "no comment" but I tried to understand as much as I could about what I could/could not do
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Post by LightFoot on May 10, 2011 22:45:33 GMT -5
YOu missed it too. I did at first Cap should be ( 2,3) CIaS should be (1,3) fluid should be (1,3)
you see?
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Post by special on May 10, 2011 22:50:25 GMT -5
YOu missed it too. I did at first Cap should be ( 2,3) CIaS should be (1,3) fluid should be (1,3) you see? No, Captain never had 3 votes at any one point in time. The most he had was 2. The most CiaS had at any one time was 1. The most fluiddruid ever had at any one time was 2. It's not the number of votes, but the number of votes at any one time.
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Post by Dirx on May 10, 2011 22:50:46 GMT -5
Ah, I see what you're saying. No, they shouldn't be as you say, because none of them had 3 votes on them at the same time. The second number is the maximum number of votes that player had at any one time. In each case, there was an unvote some time before the third vote was placed.
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Post by Dirx on May 10, 2011 22:51:34 GMT -5
Damn you, Ed!
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Post by LightFoot on May 10, 2011 22:58:42 GMT -5
colour me a goose. I was off base on D1 votes ( I thought I was on to something for a minute there) But the D2 shenanigans are still in play
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Post by Colby11 on May 10, 2011 23:50:03 GMT -5
Lots to digest... Here are my thoughts
I think voting for Captain is a mistake. Clearly his vote is being controlled, therefore lynching him would only help SCUM.
Archangel does seem somewhat scummish, but I want to reread Day 1 again... I plan to do that tomorrow after my finals
If you guys want to argue about inactivity, Paranoia hasn't responded at all today... So go after him, and not Captain.
So, for the moment, Vote: Paranoia due to inactivity.
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Post by LightFoot on May 11, 2011 0:15:40 GMT -5
Lots to digest... Here are my thoughts I think voting for Captain is a mistake. Clearly his vote is being controlled, therefore lynching him would only help SCUM. But what about the interesting bits about the dissappearing votes on him? It appears we have atleast 2 that have not posted a thing toDay (other factions MAY be in play?) you appear to be championing Cap (bleached)
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Post by Captain Pinkies on May 11, 2011 1:26:24 GMT -5
Cap, did you have to vote *me* or just the leading vote getter? Holey Moley, what do you think of this? I was told whom to vote for and how to vote and when to vote, if break "my gift" there is a penalty... And yes I know what the penalty is.
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Post by septimus on May 11, 2011 2:56:53 GMT -5
I think voting for Captain is a mistake. Clearly his vote is being controlled, therefore lynching him would only help SCUM. He says his vote is being controlled. I don't see why it is "clear." Moreover,I don't see why Lynching a controlled player would necessarily help Scum. Perhaps Scum is the faction controlling him. Another question for discussion: Does this Vote Controller ("Politician") get to choose whose vote is controlled? If so, why did the Politician pick Pinkies? It seems to me that it would likely be pro-Town for Pinkies to reveal further details, e.g. the text of the PM describing his forced voting. I'll probably leave my vote on him until he does so.
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