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Post by Sister Coyote on May 22, 2011 20:00:02 GMT -5
They had a large canvas bag, which tied up at the mouth with strings: into this they slipped the guinea-pig, head first, and then sat upon it.
That's not a guinea pig y'all find in the bag.
DirX, Ace of Hearts, Town Optional Vig has been slain.
ToDay begins now. It will end at 6 p.m. Pacific on Friday, May 27.[/color]
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Post by Ma'at on May 22, 2011 20:02:55 GMT -5
Aww man - RIP DirX.
At least there was only one kill this time
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 22, 2011 20:12:30 GMT -5
RIP DirX
So one question is why optional? I have never played with a Vig, so not sure if that is standard or this one is unique.
It's bed time here.
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Post by Ma'at on May 22, 2011 20:19:40 GMT -5
I'm sure others know better than I do, but seems to make sense that it should be an optional vig kill and not mandatory. If mandatory, you could easily end up NK'ing a fellow townie, and then it becomes a not-so-townie town power.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 22, 2011 20:27:13 GMT -5
I guess I just assumed that role would always be optional anyways, who knows...
I am heading to bed... Have a good rest of your birthday!
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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 22, 2011 21:08:11 GMT -5
seems like they're going after the vets.
Dirx, see you around. cheers!
Ma'at, happy birthday! have a good one.
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Post by Dirx on May 22, 2011 21:17:08 GMT -5
rassafrassinnogoodmuttermumblegrowl...
Spoilers, please?
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Post by Ma'at on May 22, 2011 22:15:39 GMT -5
thanks Ginger and Gnarly - going to celebrate by going to bed early :-) (guess that's what happens when you get old...)
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Post by BillMc on May 23, 2011 1:21:35 GMT -5
Damn, sorry to see you go Dirx. Two scum kills, two town powers dead. It may be that the scum have an investigator, tho it is possible than Meeko watched Fluid (since she was an obvious target for a Vig) and saw Dirx kill her. So 15 alive, and probably still 4 scum in play. I have no particular reason to doubt Bill, mind, but no particular reason to accept his claim with the confidence I'm seeing out of a lot of folks, either. If Bill really is Town, I'm sure he won't object to the following statement: Bill has proven nothing so far. He should be treated as a total unknown and if he behaves in a Scummy fashion, he warrants votes same as anyone.Agreed, nothing has been proven. Theoretically, I could be scum, and I could have bussed a scum power to gain town cred. If we have a lie detector, or a back up cop, then they are the only town folk who can prove me town, without me being dead. I also agree with Ma'at - who I still view with suspicion in general, btw - about Bill's "I am right and if I'm not I can be killed" post, which seems very strange. I made pretty much the same statement in Mazalan about Ulla. If I was wrong then I accept the consequences. As for Meeko, the "bought" vote didn't seem quite right - maybe coz Scum weren't expecting Colby to turn up dead and thought he would be an easy bandwagon. So the vote on Meeko was to gauge his reaction -- his reaction however was out of proportion, as was Squink's apparent defence of him. Yes Meeko voted Colby - as per the vote count - but we did not know whether he had actually been *forced* to vote. Hence my request for him to make the definitive statement. However he refused to make that statement. Possibly he did not want to be tested by the lie detector (if we have one) and also confirm that the politician is scum (tho I think we can now assume the politician is scum). He also totally refused to answer the questions from Dirx. Those actions pointed to him being scummy. On reflection, I can see merit in both the arguments against Septimus and Lightfoot. Pending a re-read, I'm going to Vote: Squink
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Post by CatInASuit on May 23, 2011 3:08:30 GMT -5
Sorry to see you go Dirx However he refused to make that statement. Possibly he did not want to be tested by the lie detector (if we have one) and also confirm that the politician is scum (tho I think we can now assume the politician is scum). He also totally refused to answer the questions from Dirx. Those actions pointed to him being scummy. I still don't think you can assume the politician is scum. If a scum politican didn't force Meeko's vote, I would have expected them to copy Pinkies PM verbatim. I'm betting it is more likely to be a Mod colour than anything else. I can also see good reasons for both either a Town or Scum politican making the choices that have been ascribed to them. I'm keeping an open mind for the mo.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on May 23, 2011 3:49:57 GMT -5
Bill, i had a few questions yesterDay that i hope you can address. Bill, based on your quoting of the two PMs, i'll count you as close to Town short of turning up dead. ;D i just want some clarification. you voted for Meeko because: 1. his un-Meeko play 2. his posted PM about a forced vote the first is what it is. for the second, why don't you think the Mod wouldn't add the bit about Colby being dead or alive? is it because when Mods set up a game they already have set PMs for certain events? do you have other reasons you haven't mentioned? furthermore, you suspect Squink, Lightfoot, Mhaye and Rysto. you suspect Squink basically for defending Meeko. how about the others? Moley, what are your thoughts?
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Post by CatInASuit on May 23, 2011 3:51:49 GMT -5
Vote Counts
Day 1
ace093 (8,9): Special Ed [80], gnarlycharlie [97], storyteller [115], metallicsquink [127], archangel [144], fluiddruid [145], LightFoot [173], Meeko [250], septimus [287,287] Honest Moley (3,3): Rysto [243], BillMc [314], JustBeingGinger [316] Captain Pinkies (2,2): ace093 [227], septimus [287,287], Suburban Plankton [291] CIAS (1,1): colby11 [102,168], septimus [206,234], Honest Moley [324] Paranoia (1,3): JustBeingGinger [237,316], colby11 [257], septimus [287,287] fluiddruid (1,2): justbeingginger [153,160], MHaye [304], Honest Moley [313,324] archangel (1,2): Honest Moley [179,226], CIAS [199] septimus (1,1): guiri [233] guiri (1,1): septimus [234,287,287]
gnarlycharlie (0,1): suburban plankton [79,93] BillMc (0,1): Suburban Plankton [93,291] colby11 (0,1): CIAS [110,199] Suburban Plankton (0,1): metallicsquink [111,127] storyteller (0,1): archangel [129,144] Meeko (1,1): Dirx [302]
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Day 2
Captain Pinkies (9,9)*: Special Ed [4], Suburban Plankton [47,198,209], septimus [88,381], Meeko [156], LightFoot [161, 264], JustBeingGinger [228,382], Storyteller [269], guiri [304], CatInaSuit [317], colby11 [341] Fluiddruid (8,7): Archangel [30,203,246], gnarlycharlie [227], BillMc [343], LightFoot[363], Merestil Haye [374], Honest Moley [379],JustBeingGinger[382] Archangel (2,3): CatInaSuit [26,317], metallicsquink [37], Captain Pinkies [90,376] Paranoia (0,1): colby11 [176,313] JustBeingGinger (0,1): Honest Moley [263, 379] colby11 (2,1): Ma'at [389] guiri (1,1): Rysto [321] Meeko (1,1): Dirx [371] gnarlycharlie (0,1): Archangel [203,246] CatInaSuit (1,1): septimus [60,88,381] Special Ed (0,1): Suburban Plankton [198,209]
Pinkies: +2 votes for moving vote during Day Fluiddruid: Started Day with 1 vote.
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Day 3
Meeko (7,7) BillMc [72] Guiri [108] Archangel [116] JustBeingGinger [215], gnarlycharlie [233], septimus [237], Dirx [238] septimus (3,3) Suburban Plankton [239], Merestil Haye [252], storyteller [255] Archangel (2,3) Metallic Squink [121], Ma'at [232], Suburban Plankton [235,239] Lightfoot (2,2) CatInASuit [165] Honest Moley [211] Guiri (1,1) Rysto [171] Rysto (1,1) Lightfoot [183] BillMc (0,2) Honest Moley [81 196] Ma’at [103 193] Metallic Squink (0,1) Septimus [112,237] GnarlyCharlie (0,1) JustBeingGinger [173 215] JustBeingGinger (0,1) CatInASuit [64 165] CatInASuit (0,1) Septimus [47 112] colby11 (1,1): Meeko [13]
I think these are accurate.
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Post by CatInASuit on May 23, 2011 5:52:47 GMT -5
So early in the Day, first surprise is the vote switch from septimus. @septimus - why did you change your vote from CIAS to Pinkies following FD's claim? What changed to make Pinkies more scummy than CIAS because of it, considering the reason you gave for voting Pinkies was also mentioned in the post in which you voted for CIAS. @septimus: While you're working out how to defend your switch from squink to Meeko, do you want to answer this question about another switch which doesn't make much sense.
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Post by CatInASuit on May 23, 2011 6:05:16 GMT -5
Next up, lightfoot's vote and reading the reasoning made me pause. @lightfoot - why did you vote for the person you considered the second scummiest person on your list and not rysto. in #D2.277, you are prepared to give fluiddruid some time to prove parts of the claim later on and are going to vote Rysto. What changed? You typed the answer yourself Rysto never had one vote on them. (so a if I had voted there , we'd be chatting about THAT now) As I said in the very post you quoted from .. fluiddruid in my mind was either 3rd party or a liar or both. (we don’t need those) I did agree with others that fd could be given some rope.The voting shows that many had decided not to wait. (bird in the hand and all) I disagree, if you had voted for Rysto, I would not have found your vote scummy because you were voting for the person you had stated was the most scummy. YOU said we should give fluiddruid more time and then you voted for her. What other people do and vote on has nothing to do with how you vote and act. It doesn't matter that other people decided not to give time to fluiddruid, it's what you do that counts. @ CatInaSuit your voting record shows that you’ve voted Archangel D1 and D2 (which seems a game ritual when you two play together) and you voted Pinkies late D2:317 How would you analyze YOUR voting pattern? Have I played this way with Archangel before My voting pattern is exceedingly townie with well thought out and reasoned arguments. Well, what else did you think I was going to to say ;D
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Post by storyteller0910 on May 23, 2011 6:32:48 GMT -5
Theoretically, I could be scum, and I could have bussed a scum power to gain town cred. If we have a lie detector, or a back up cop, then they are the only town folk who can prove me town, without me being dead. Meeko's death and revealed alignment suggest that you are less likely to be Scum then when I made that post, certainly. But you could be third party and just have been lying about your conversion. Eh, it's not worth worrying about right now - there are bigger fish to fry. I made pretty much the same statement in Mazalan about Ulla. If I was wrong then I accept the consequences. The problem with the statement is that there's really no reason for there to be those particular consequences if you were wrong. Had you been wrong about Meeko, I can't see why it would have led us to lynch you - it would have been very stupid play for us to lynch you on that basis alone. I assume you realize that, which is why your post came off as odd.
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Post by Rysto on May 23, 2011 6:40:58 GMT -5
I need to re-read Day Three, but one thing that I can say off the bat is that given that he was second on the Meeko bandwagon, my suspicion of guiri has significantly lessened.
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Post by CatInASuit on May 23, 2011 6:42:58 GMT -5
DEAR CatInaSuit What a lovely WoW (and after I said such nice things about you too) Have you actually read anything I wrote after you first started this line of questioning? I do enjoy you not responding TO me , typing AT me works better for you? BTW at work I compose my posts in word and check my facts. If I have clients come in or work to do It can take hours before I get the thing posted. *waves at Lightfoot* I know what you mean about creating posts, that WoW took most of a day to compile.
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Post by CatInASuit on May 23, 2011 7:25:58 GMT -5
For example: 2. Septimus is Town ... Should return "Unknown So I'm right. Lie Detector could submit your (2) and, given a "False" response, deduce that I'm non-Town and that Ed is Scum or Investigator. Scum wouldn't know whether someone is Town or Third Party, but I can try this: Special Ed is not Scum. Lie Detector will, in fact, get "Unknown" from this, but if they think I'm Scum they can submit it to (partially) confirm their suspicion of me and (in the case I am Scum) also learn Ed's alignment. It's staring me in face. Vote: septimus
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Post by JustBeingGinger on May 23, 2011 7:37:20 GMT -5
@ GnarlyCharlieit's 4am here and i have to catch some Zs. so in case i don't wake up before EOD, Vote Meekowhile the comments about the forced vote PM and aggressive defense can be seen by some as scummy, i'm more struck by the lack of discussion about who he considers most suspicious. this has been mentioned by Mhaye and IIRC Ginger as well. although, he may well be forced to vote for a dead player, i don't see how that stops him from contributing to scumhunting. So you voted Meeko for not participating and not scum-hunting? The only thing you have done in the game is mention in Day 1 that you are suspicious of Archangel, yet you have never voted her. You voted Ace, for not claiming on Day 1 and Fluid, which you say "it is better to err on the side of caution" on Day 2 and then Meeko, for not saying who he is suspicious of or scumhunting, on Day 3. sorry, i haven't been around here much. i have 3 games and this one is the most challenging so i'm taking my time. also i'm usually asleep when most of the posts come in so i have to play a lot of catchup if there are a lot of them. Well you are down to 2 games now. To say that you are taking your time, this is very anti-town behavior and has scum lurking all over it. Bill, i had a few questions yesterDay that i hope you can address. Bill, based on your quoting of the two PMs, i'll count you as close to Town short of turning up dead. ;D i just want some clarification. you voted for Meeko because: 1. his un-Meeko play 2. his posted PM about a forced vote the first is what it is. for the second, why don't you think the Mod wouldn't add the bit about Colby being dead or alive? is it because when Mods set up a game they already have set PMs for certain events? do you have other reasons you haven't mentioned? furthermore, you suspect Squink, Lightfoot, Mhaye and Rysto. you suspect Squink basically for defending Meeko. how about the others? Moley, what are your thoughts? You ask Moley on what his thoughts were on the game. How about giving us your thoughts... I understand you posted that so Moley could talk but that is it from you? I voted for you in Day 3 due to lack of participation and it seems nothing has changed. Vote GnarlyCharlie
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Post by Renata on May 23, 2011 7:41:23 GMT -5
Current vote count:
Metallic Squink (1,1) BillMc [8]* Septimus (1,1) CatInASuit [17] Gnarlycharlie (1,1) JustBeingGinger [18]
With these votes, MetallicSquink will be lynched.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2011 8:50:14 GMT -5
You typed the answer yourself Rysto never had one vote on them. (so a if I had voted there , we'd be chatting about THAT now) As I said in the very post you quoted from .. fluiddruid in my mind was either 3rd party or a liar or both. (we don’t need those) I did agree with others that fd could be given some rope.The voting shows that many had decided not to wait. (bird in the hand and all) I disagree, if you had voted for Rysto, I would not have found your vote scummy because you were voting for the person you had stated was the most scummy. YOU said we should give fluiddruid more time and then you voted for her. What other people do and vote on has nothing to do with how you vote and act. It doesn't matter that other people decided not to give time to fluiddruid, it's what you do that counts. @ CatInaSuit your voting record shows that you’ve voted Archangel D1 and D2 (which seems a game ritual when you two play together) and you voted Pinkies late D2:317 How would you analyze YOUR voting pattern? Have I played this way with Archangel before My voting pattern is exceedingly townie with well thought out and reasoned arguments. Well, what else did you think I was going to to say ;D I don't think we've ever played together before? To answer questions from yesterday, I believed Bill, and yes, my vote was primarily to save him. I also thought given that Bill was voting Meeko it was likely he wasn't scum. Terribly lazy play, I know, but it didn't hurt anything. I did intend to come back and do better but I got a job last week and it's changing my schedule a bit, haven't adjusted to it yet. I will try my best to do better toDay.
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2011 8:53:14 GMT -5
Vote Septimus
I am not doing this willingly. I believe Septimus is town.
And I am going to be accruing penalty votes for not reading my PMs before posting. (Not that specifically-- apparently I was supposed to do this in my first post of the day.)
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Post by CatInASuit on May 23, 2011 8:55:23 GMT -5
And now for something completely different. A WoW on septimus. Day 1#40 - fluff #45 - question to mod re: forbidden thread. #74 - claims town, will generally not be around at lynch #152 - question to mod re: non-participant, says will report town claim in one post for no ambiguity, partial claims playing card, spades/hearts/diamonds #154 - I am Town. #161 - Three days in and sees no lynch case to support, comment re: pleonast being the usual volunteer. Response to SubPlank on his partial claim saying it might have led to a scum slip or smudge, but that has gone. Asks what should be discussed instead. #195 - Response to CIAS - does not know if suits are related to alignment, asks what suit CIAS is. think CIAS is one of three options, VT card, Town Power non-card, scum. Response to CIAS about claiming twice #206 - comment about CIAS skimming, says point about previous post is that CIAS is neither Power role playing card nor vanilla non-card. Says CIAS is firing at random and as he thinks ace is not scum, votes CIAS. #208 - Happy to jump on LtL bandwagon, comment on lynching Pinkies twice for being a lurker #221 - Response to guiri, says doesn't have strong scum reading on anyone, says CIAS likely to be 40% scum, Pinkies 33% scum. Question to guiri about last game being repeated in this game re: guiri complaining over septimus votes. #234 - Rebuts guiri's vote post point by point. Says guiri was not town in last game when smudging occured, unvotes CIAS and votes guiri. #236 - Response to dirx. Was happy to vote CIAS ot guiri given likely opercentage scum but was willing to put vote on Pinkies to make it relevant. comment on vote mechanics, thinks guiri is engaging on OMGUS against him #238 - Response to JBG, comment aout Pinkies gong missing #287 - unvotes guiri, votes ace for not claiming, unvotes ace, votes paranoia for lurking, unvotes paranoia, votes Pinkies for lurking, unvotes Pinkies, votes guiri saying guiri votes for him because septimus doesn't follow a stereotype, guiri is happy to vote for him until he conforms. Comments: Initially not much sprung out, but given the last couple of deaths that comment in #152 I think is going to bite him. As for comments on stereotypes, I don't play to type, people rarely listen to me and I'm always surprised I never get more votes. The comments about guiri's vote being an OMGUS do seem meta gamey but other reasons were given for the vote, so it still stands. Day 2#60 - comment on Honest Moley and why a scummy one would invent a posting restriction, votes CIAS citing yesterdays suspicions. Wrote Captain Pinkies wrote simply "Town." This seemed extremely odd at the time (How hard is it to type "I am" ?) so Ed may be correct to find it suspicious. But, it seems almost too obvious of a blunder.,. Digresses and asks a question about Lie Detector role. #62 - response to Ed about Lie Detector role and further commenton the role capability #64 - further comment on the Lie Detector role. #88 - thinks we should acept fluiddruids offer, comment to fluiddruid on Night vote, says Pinkies has only claimed "Town", unvotes CIAS and votes Pinkies. #116 - Comment to Captain Pinkies, thinks is 3rd party, unless he confesses he should be lynched in absence of obvious scum. #149 - Comment on the multiple vote problems. #179 - response to colby re Pinkies, will leave vote on Pinkies until he claims. #278 - finds it easier to see town-tells instead of scum-tells, sees no confusion in FDs extra vote, will look among lurkers for scum, says Pinkies play is anti-town, will keep vote on him. #283 - response to rysto about voting for anti-town, says even if Pinkies is town his vote is being controlled, is that good for the town. #301 - response to rysto about Pinkies being anti-town #311 - will consider unvoting Pinkies post claim, does not see Archangel case, promises to unvote Pinkies if he moves his vote to prove the penalty #355 - sees no reason to move vote, sees no scum reason for fluiddruid #380 - follows through promise to Pinkies about unvoting if he took the hit, unvotes Pinkies and votes CIAS citing previous weak scum tells. Comments: Strangely enough no mention of guiri again on Day 2, despite ending Day 1 with a vote on him. Was back to picking on CIAS, although the switch to Pinkies makes no sense. The EoD switch does look like someone getting off a bandwagon, but it was at least given a reason. Day 3#14 - Comment on Ed's role and breadcrumbing " I've almost no experience with bread-crumbing, so hope experienced players will comment. " #22 - Comment on fluiddruid and Meeko voting for colby. #47 - Thinks scum are doing an excellent job of hiding and playing well, only has one strong candidate and votes CIAS. #65 - response to CIAS about moving vote at EoD, asks if CIAs finds him scummy. #87 - response to CIAS, about CIAS calling him a power role in thread, says it is pro-scum, says helping the scum to guess power roles with no obvious NK is so scummy. #88 - Comment on Meeko and Colby, says, Meeko, politican and NK'er could all plotting this so when one flips they gain some cred. #100 - Comment to rysto over CIAS play, is wondering if CIAS is too scummy to be scum. #101 - surprised about suspicion given to the extra sentence in vote PM, worries scum are playing a clever game #112 - unvotes CIAS - saying he was voting for anti-town reasons, comment on Meeko being quiet, looks at squink says some posts are contrived and votes squink. #137 - says CIAS posts are not like a scum would write, says squinks posts seem especially contrived or false. Thinks he has finally found a scum. #237 - Can see cases against Meeko and squink, qould rather vote squink, but wants to put vote where it is more likely scum are lynched, unvotes squink, votes meeko. Comment: The switch from Squink to Meeko is really curious, with little to no obvious reasoning. Thoughts: His votes start with CIAS, switches to guiri, but the following Day go back to CIAS. Then he votes Pinkies despite nothing changing in reasoning since he voted CIAS and giving the same reasoning which wasn't good enough for a vote last time. The votes coming off Pinkies at least had a reason, then it's back to voting CIAS again. Starts on CIAS and then votes squink before switching to Meeko. Scummy points: The partial claim on Day 1. The dropping of any suspicion of guiri on Day 2. The SoD2 switch from CIAS to Pinkies The EoD3 switch off Pinkies The EoD3 switch from squink to Meeko. However..., reading back over it, it reads like someone trying to drop hints to the scum about what he is up to and dropping breadcrumbs left, right and center. As if he was not currently part of the scum collective. See #D2.62 for why. I'm torn between reading his posts as part of the scum for the actions and a scum trying to make contact. They can't both be true. Then again, there is enough either way to consider a vote for him. WAG: At a pinch, I would guess he was the Queen of Hearts, but now I'm pushing it. This is going to be like the time I though Natlaw was a scum godfather in the Monty Python game, isn't it
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Post by Archangel on May 23, 2011 9:16:42 GMT -5
That's fascinating timing, Cat.
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Post by septimus on May 23, 2011 9:36:46 GMT -5
I'm starting to get votes and suspicions so should defend myself. The principle charge seems to be that I voted Meeko with little or no explanation. For a Townie, the purpose of a vote is to Lynch scum. I was on my way to bed, many hadn't voted, and there was danger that a Townie would be lynched. (My pre-Meeko vote was a one-off.) If I lacked the time and energy(*) to construct a "case" should I have foregone the vote change? That would have been anti-Town. (* - I have severe common cold, getting better now -- fingers crossed.) Presumably those arguing against me thought I was trying to build Town cred by voting for a Scum. But even I, a relatively poor and inexperienced player, know that such an unsupported vote would attract suspicion, not Town cred. And even those who think I am stupid enough not to realize this should realize that, were I indeed Scum, I'd be biting my fingernails and begging for advice on the Scum board. Surely my alleged Scum buddies would have discouraged that kind of vote. In other words, the only plausible reason for my vote was the correct Townish one: I wanted to lynch scum. And, for those who wonder why I didn't try to develop an anti-Meeko case, I ask: What did you think of my anti-Squink case yesterDay? I think many might agree with Squink herself: It wasn't much of a case; I just repeated a few of her posts and indicated "scum would say that." To do the same thing for Meeko would seem almost a waste of time. I could have written something like "I refer players to comments given upthread by other Meeko voters." Would that sort of low-value boilerplate have changed my "scummy" vote to a "pro-Town" vote? Now why am I relatively confident in Meeko's and Squink's scumminess if I can't state a good case? The game Glasnost was eye-opening for me. As Townie lynched me, I wrote an earnest post giving my opinion of who was Scum -- it was completely wrong (Special Ed was my #1 suspect: he was the Town Doc ) I got spoiled, looked at the Scum board, and was enlightened. Good scum don't make obvious scum tells. In fact (and I'll be condemned and voted for this comment ;D ), among good players it may almost be a Town tell to make a Scum tell! What I noticed in Glasnost was that the people making earnest effort to find scum (and perhaps smudging in the process) were Town; the Scum sat back and pretended to scum hunt with posts that only seemed Townish. I am a bad poker player, and may never be a good Mafia player, but I read a players' posts twice; once imagining them to be Town, and once imagining them to be clever Scum. I decide which fits better. (And I'm certainly not ashamed to use hints from other scum-hunters to help me in my own judgment.) I hope this helps. So I'm right. Lie Detector could submit your (2) and, given a "False" response, deduce that I'm non-Town and that Ed is Scum or Investigator. Scum wouldn't know whether someone is Town or Third Party, but I can try this: Special Ed is not Scum. Lie Detector will, in fact, get "Unknown" from this, but if they think I'm Scum they can submit it to (partially) confirm their suspicion of me and (in the case I am Scum) also learn Ed's alignment. It's staring me in face. Vote: septimus Whatever it is, "it" is not staring me in the face. I won't be able to defend against this until you explain it to me. Speaking of Ed's "Septimus is Town", have we given up looking for Ed's breadcrumb? For a few reasons I don't think he Investigated BillMc. (One reason is that BillMc often dies early, making a Night One Investigate of him likely to be wasted.) I think "Septimus is Town" might be the crumb. His odd "for Pete's sake" might be crumb, but I can't decode it. Squink is still my #1 candidate, but I have 1 or 2 others and will defer voting for now.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 23, 2011 9:48:45 GMT -5
Vote SeptimusI am not doing this willingly. I believe Septimus is town. And I am going to be accruing penalty votes for not reading my PMs before posting. (Not that specifically-- apparently I was supposed to do this in my first post of the day.) Well this blows my theory about the Politician (assuming Archangel is telling the truth); I thought that fluiddruid was behind the bought votes, given that she was revealed as a "Politician/Mad Bomber". But unless she has powers from beyond the grave she can't be responsible for buying Archangel's vote.
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Post by septimus on May 23, 2011 9:49:29 GMT -5
PS. It may be irrelevant, but I had not seen Archangel's vote or CIAS's Wow when I posted ... even though my timestamp is 43 minutes later! Perhaps I should have composed such a long post off-line, or reviewed the thread from another window before clicking Send, but I did neither. One reason for the delay is a very flakey Internet connection that often requires Disconnect/Reconnect rituals. Just thought I should mention this since an earlier post about another's long delay suggested suspicion, and here I did it myself without any feeling I was particularly slow.
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Post by metallicsquink on May 23, 2011 10:25:18 GMT -5
To answer questions from yesterday, I believed Bill, and yes, my vote was primarily to save him. I also thought given that Bill was voting Meeko it was likely he wasn't scum. Terribly lazy play, I know, but it didn't hurt anything. I did intend to come back and do better but I got a job last week and it's changing my schedule a bit, haven't adjusted to it yet. I will try my best to do better toDay. What is it that you believed regarding Bill? All Bill had done at that point was vote for meeko. He had not claimed so there wasn't anything concrete to believe, unless you are saying that you agreed with his case (but I think using the term "believe" is a bit strong but maybe that's just me). And you say that since Bill was voting meeko, Bill wasn't likely to be scum. What does that mean? It sounds like you knew something about meeko and/or Bill.
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Post by Sister Coyote on May 23, 2011 10:26:50 GMT -5
Updated (Unconfirmed) Vote Count
Current vote count:
Septimus (2,2) CatInASuit [17], Archangel [21] Archangel (2,0) Metallic Squink (1,1) BillMc [8] Gnarlycharlie (1,1) JustBeingGinger [18]
With these votes, septimus will be lynched.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on May 23, 2011 10:57:55 GMT -5
Archangel, can you post the PM you received instructing you to vote for septimus?
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