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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 5, 2011 20:00:10 GMT -5
`I see!' said the Queen, who had meanwhile been examining the roses. `Off with their heads!' and the procession moved on, three of the soldiers remaining behind to execute the unfortunate gardeners, who ran to Alice for protection.
`You shan't be beheaded!' said Alice, and she put them into a large flower-pot that stood near. The three soldiers wandered about for a minute or two, looking for them, and then quietly marched off after the others.
`Are their heads off?' shouted the Queen.
`Their heads are gone, if it please your Majesty!' the soldiers shouted in reply.
`That's right!' shouted the Queen.
And the Nine of Hearts' head has indeed been separated from his body.
CatInaSuit, Nine of Hearts, Vanilla Town has been slain.
Day starts now. It will end at 6:00 p.m. on Friday, June 10 or, with player consensus, I will change Day End to include the possibility of a hammer.
With player consensus, the Hammer will work as follows: Should any one player obtain 50% + 2 votes, a 24-hr countdown to Day End will begin from that point. ToDay would require 7 votes on one player to initiate the countdown.
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Post by Ma'at on Jun 5, 2011 20:31:41 GMT -5
I have finals and won’t be around too much until Wednesday, but will still be reading. Thoughts – sorry to see you go CIAS – wondering if I will have made a correct conclusion about anyone’s alignment in this game…At least you were only vanilla (oh, and thanks for the advice you gave me the other day - I appreciate it. wish I had some evidence to point to to make a scummy argument against someone, but alas, I do not) I do find it interesting that Rysto and Moley were both backing off me ever so slightly yesterday when it looked like I might get vigged. A case of having your cake and eating it too, as I was accused of with Meeko? regarding Story – call me stupid (I don’t mind), but I thought it was a ballsy move to axe Bill. Yes, seems unlikely he would be a scum bussing numerous other scum, but he did have a weird claim, there was the whole Scotsman thing, he’s a very good player and might have some sneaky plan to come off as town by hunting scum, and likely he would not get voted off by town as Story mentioned. And, the tiniest silver lining is that we at least have his suspicious list to work from (which of course I’m pointing out because I wasn’t on it ;D) Someone ( SubP?) mentioned that between a few of the proclaimed power roles ( Moley, MHaye, Gnarley) there might be a scum lurking. Quite possible ok - back to studying
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 5, 2011 21:03:35 GMT -5
okay folks. there are interesting things going on here. i took out CatInaSuit last Night. i can explain how i had another kill if needed.
so that leads to some possibilities:
1. Scum, for whatever reason, decided not to NK last night 2. the Doc, if there is one, protected the NK target 3. Scum are gone but there is a 3rd Party who is a threat to Town 4. there's still Scum AND 3rd Party who is a threat to Town
other options are possible but this is what i have right now.
we could still try to go after claimed vanilla. if there is a Doc, i think it might be feasible to claim because of Town's numerical superiority. i could have accidentally taken him/her out and we need to know who was protected. that would confirm his/her target as Town.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 5, 2011 21:03:59 GMT -5
I have finals and won’t be around too much until Wednesday, but will still be reading. Thoughts – sorry to see you go CIAS – wondering if I will have made a correct conclusion about anyone’s alignment in this game…At least you were only vanilla (oh, and thanks for the advice you gave me the other day - I appreciate it. wish I had some evidence to point to to make a scummy argument against someone, but alas, I do not) I do find it interesting that Rysto and Moley were both backing off me ever so slightly yesterday when it looked like I might get vigged. A case of having your cake and eating it too, as I was accused of with Meeko? regarding Story – call me stupid (I don’t mind), but I thought it was a ballsy move to axe Bill. Yes, seems unlikely he would be a scum bussing numerous other scum, but he did have a weird claim, there was the whole Scotsman thing, he’s a very good player and might have some sneaky plan to come off as town by hunting scum, and likely he would not get voted off by town as Story mentioned. And, the tiniest silver lining is that we at least have his suspicious list to work from (which of course I’m pointing out because I wasn’t on it ;D) Someone ( SubP?) mentioned that between a few of the proclaimed power roles ( Moley, MHaye, Gnarley) there might be a scum lurking. Quite possible ok - back to studying BillMC, CIAS, sorry to lose ya. CIAS, not sure where all the suspicion on you was coming from, but apart from the whole "prove your post restriction" thing on Day One, which obviously annoyed me a LOT, I was pretty sure your head was in the right place for the most part. Still not sure about your brains though. Still, huggles! As to how you died... I didn't check our JOAT, so I have only one question to ask: GnarlyCharlie, did you by any chance use a role-redirecting power on MHaye and redirect any role actions onto CatInASuit? I hope to God MHaye took my hints yesterday that I'd investigate a third-party, and instead tried to confirm Ma'at or Rysto. I myself checked Guiri. The result seems to confirm that he has no night power, but it's just possible that I was roleblocked. The presence of a confirmed second part-survivor ( BillMC) seemed to warrant investigation into our claimed survivor, so I investigated. Here's the result: "You spend the night listening for all you're worth, but hear only silence from guiri." Note that the format of the message, which has been identical in the previous three messages I've received, has changed slightly in this one. Here's two nights ago: "You listen and listen for all you're worth within your teapot, but you hear no communication from lightfoot at all." Don't think it's necessarily significant, nor do I have any other reason to doubt Guiri's claim (again, if there is another malicious third-party out there, it's kind of odd that we don't seem to have seen any noticeable malice about. No unexplained kills, etc.) I don't mind saying that before last night-fall I thought GnarlyCharlie was very likely to have been a malicious third-party, but reconsidered for reasons given below. Here's part of the PM I sent to Sis C last night (saves me writing up my process of reasoning for choosing to investigate Guiri). It's edited quite a bit for clarity and brevity (yeah, it was actually much longer!) but the important points are in it. I won't vote until we hear from MHaye. PLEASE tell me we've got a definite result on Ma'at. Either we get confirmed non-townage, or I get to eat humble pie (again); two excellent reasons why MHaye should've investigated Ma'at over anybody else. ;D
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 5, 2011 21:08:01 GMT -5
okay folks. there are interesting things going on here. i took out CatInaSuit last Night. i can explain how i had another kill if needed. so that leads to some possibilities: 1. Scum, for whatever reason, decided not to NK last night 2. the Doc, if there is one, protected the NK target 3. Scum are gone but there is a 3rd Party who is a threat to Town 4. there's still Scum AND 3rd Party who is a threat to Town other options are possible but this is what i have right now. we could still try to go after claimed vanilla. if there is a Doc, i think it might be feasible to claim because of Town's numerical superiority. i could have accidentally taken him/her out and we need to know who was protected. that would confirm his/her target as Town. Damn, all my analysis in the post above, and you confirm my theory (well, part of it) before I can post it. Wooow... well, it was obvious you were responsible for CIAS, but I thought you'd done it by redirecting a scum-kill. Didn't think you'd actually pulled the trigger yourself! Mind telling me why you chose CIAS over Ma'at?
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 5, 2011 21:10:43 GMT -5
I have finals and won’t be around too much until Wednesday, but will still be reading. Thoughts – sorry to see you go CIAS – wondering if I will have made a correct conclusion about anyone’s alignment in this game…At least you were only vanilla (oh, and thanks for the advice you gave me the other day - I appreciate it. wish I had some evidence to point to to make a scummy argument against someone, but alas, I do not) I do find it interesting that Rysto and Moley were both backing off me ever so slightly yesterday when it looked like I might get vigged. A case of having your cake and eating it too, as I was accused of with Meeko? regarding Story – call me stupid (I don’t mind), but I thought it was a ballsy move to axe Bill. Yes, seems unlikely he would be a scum bussing numerous other scum, but he did have a weird claim, there was the whole Scotsman thing, he’s a very good player and might have some sneaky plan to come off as town by hunting scum, and likely he would not get voted off by town as Story mentioned. And, the tiniest silver lining is that we at least have his suspicious list to work from (which of course I’m pointing out because I wasn’t on it ;D) Someone ( SubP?) mentioned that between a few of the proclaimed power roles ( Moley, MHaye, Gnarley) there might be a scum lurking. Quite possible ok - back to studying OH CRAP... that last post was the first time I've ever broken post restriction. Clearly not addressed to me, and my name wasn't in it. Sis C, what happens now?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 5, 2011 21:14:53 GMT -5
Penalties for Rulebreaking are described in teh Rules Thread
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 5, 2011 21:23:04 GMT -5
Penalties for Rulebreaking are described in teh Rules Thread Meh, I get a penalty vote. I can live with that. Come to think of it, it's a shame that CIAS, BillMC and Ginger are all dead... they'd finally have the "proof" they asked for on Day One that shows I'm not lying about my post restriction!
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 5, 2011 21:25:55 GMT -5
Well, that went about as well as could be expected. Quick hit thoughts before bed, and then more tomorrow:
1. I have zero regrets. It was clear to me, as the Day went by and I made my case, that there were simply not enough players willing to vote for BillMc to get him lynched, ever, and it was equally clear to me that he was lying about something. Killing him seemed an elegant solution. Happy to discuss it further, if necessary, but given the unpleasantness that surrounded it, I'm going to drop it unless anyone has specific questions.
2. Given Bill's flip, we have an interesting situation. Whether or not Bill was a threat to Town, he was not Town. This means that MHaye's read on him was either mistaken... or a lie. As with Bill, I caution against "soft-confirming" MHaye on the basis of the facts that he uncovered Scum and that it would be nice to have a Lie Detector.
3. We probably are going to need to lynch Guiri, not necessarily toDay but eventually. He's claimed harmless third party - in point of fact has claimed "Survivor," which is (in part) the role that Bill has flipped as having. It's certainly possible that there are two third party players designated "Survivor" in this game... but I don't think we should bet the entire game on that proposition.
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Post by CatInASuit on Jun 6, 2011 3:09:45 GMT -5
Oh dear, I appear to have lost my head. Good Luck Town.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 6, 2011 4:17:13 GMT -5
I do find it interesting that Rysto and Moley were both backing off me ever so slightly yesterday when it looked like I might get vigged. A case of having your cake and eating it too, as I was accused of with Meeko? I wasn't backing off you (and am still not, although I want to see what Mhaye has to say before I make a vote). I was looking at the case against Rysto, which, if it had been true, would pretty much rule you out of contention. Frankly it seemed the one possible way that you could be town. I still don't understand why you'd vig CIAS over Ma'at or even Rysto, but the "wrong people" getting killed seems to be a pattern in this game. SOMEBODY ELSE SAY MY NAME GODDAMMIT!!! Agh, this is the point at which my post restriction starts to get REALLY annoying. Storyteller... You say Bill wasn't town, but there's nothing in Sis C's reveal which contradicts his account of his alignment, as confirmed by the lie-detector. I feel as though we're back in the part of the game where we've got several scum but are now suffering a bad case of "third-party paranoia". I feel as though, balance-wise, you probably could've ended the game yesterday if you'd only targeted scum... and it's not as though there aren't some obvious candidates. You say you suspected Guiri might be malicious. I did too. That's why I investigated him. He didn't send a PM to the mod last night (unless I was roleblocked). I'd be interested to know if MHaye was. It's incredibly frustrating to me that you've questioned BillMC (who was third-party but was then confirmed town by the Lie Detector, who in turn was semi-confirmed not scum by me), MHaye, me, Guiri; but the one person who has a confirmed killing role with three other vigs in the game, you seem to be accepting without question, even while you're advising people to *not* accept others without question! Gotta say, when I got home from work and read what you'd done, my jaw dropped. I didn't understand it. Hell, you've said why you vigged Bill and I still don't understand it. OF COURSE he wasn't going to be lynched, there was a very good reason for that, and I haven't seen anything at all to suggest that that reason wasn't valid! If there's a malicious PFK in this game still - apart from GnarlyCharlie, at least - then why haven't we seen any malicious actions? When Rysto won as "Death", he got to kill somebody every night. When Bufftabby won as "ceiling cat", half the people in the game were talking in LOLcat, signifying that they'd been "converted" by a mad bomber. Where's the equivalent here? I don't get it. I think that to assume there's a PFK, other than possibly Charlie, means that you have to assume that there's a player left whose role is deadly to the town, yet completely undetectable. Even in a game where half the roles seem to be gastardly in one form or another - reading mod PMs, manipulating others' votes, etc - is that even remotely likely? We've already had a claimed assassin / SK who was eliminated very early because his target died; we got lucky there. We also have a claimed mad-bomber, also eliminated early by the vig. That's two PFK-type roles right there. Imagine if Colby and Fluid had survived much longer than they did. Then BillMC and FluidDruid could've been a real threat to the town. I don't think you design games assuming that your Serial Killer will only get one kill and your Mad Bomber will admit his role and get himself vigged on Night 2. These two didn't wreak havoc, but they could have. I think two PFKs makes sense in a twenty-two man game. Three if GnarlyCharlie is a PFK JOAT would also make sense, because he hasn't had a night-kill every night. Something else I don't understand... why no scum kill last night? Were there genuinely only four scum (they would seem to be underpowered if so) or was somebody blocked? Do we have a scum who can't kill? Was somebody protected? If anybody knows, now would be a good time to claim. This is a ridiculous game... everything I don't understand probably relates to the actions of my fellow townies, not the scum / PFKs! Ok I'm done.
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Post by guiri on Jun 6, 2011 4:49:05 GMT -5
Vote Hammer
@ Moley, can you confirm with the mod that there's no significance in the wording of the result you received, please?
@ Story, I hope MHaye tested my claim yesterDay and can confirm I'm not a threat to Town. Moley's already confirmed I had no communication.
@ Moley, Bill was not Town but 3rd party Mary Ann impersonating Alice: "You need to find and Kill Alice, so you can take over for her with no one the wiser, since the two of you are so alike." He apparently investigated as Town to a cop or lie detector because Mary Ann looked like Alice. I had a similar 3rd party-but-investigates-as-Town power in Scooby-Doo mafia as unwatchable-godfather-3rd party/PFK-SK-bomb.
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Post by septimus on Jun 6, 2011 8:26:59 GMT -5
(The Moderator has announced a possible Hammer toDay. Is that a "tell" that she expects Town to win quickly?) Meanwhile, I've gotten a bit suspicious of gnarlycharlie: okay folks. there are interesting things going on here. i took out CatInaSuit last Night. i can explain how i had another kill if needed. ... i could have accidentally taken [the Doc] out and we need to know who was protected. that would confirm his/her target as Town. Let's get this straight. story gave careful advanced notice that he was going to Kill, so that a targeted Doc could claim. Charlie, on the other hand, directs a surprise Kill at CIAS, whom I (and perhaps others) was beginning to suspect was indeed the Town Doc. Two kills seems like a lot for a Jack-of-all-trades so, with the supposedly Town-aligned Kills now all used up and only the Scum NK threatening, Charlie, having missed the Doc, finally declares that Doc should claim. Quoth Mr. Spock "Does not compute." I've gotten Town vibes from Charlie, and my suspicions here are likely misplaced. On the other hand, Charlie's voting record isn't too good. On the third hand, all the other players seem convinced Charlie's Town: Was there a Detection or something I've overlooked? We're still waiting to hear from MHaye, but I'm going to place a tentative vote: Vote: gnarlycharlieWhat's your opinion of this vote, Honest Moley ?
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Post by Renata on Jun 6, 2011 9:51:44 GMT -5
Current vote count:
Did it wrong, see post 16.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 6, 2011 10:13:58 GMT -5
(The Moderator has announced a possible Hammer toDay. Is that a "tell" that she expects Town to win quickly?) Meanwhile, I've gotten a bit suspicious of gnarlycharlie: okay folks. there are interesting things going on here. i took out CatInaSuit last Night. i can explain how i had another kill if needed. ... i could have accidentally taken [the Doc] out and we need to know who was protected. that would confirm his/her target as Town. Let's get this straight. story gave careful advanced notice that he was going to Kill, so that a targeted Doc could claim. Charlie, on the other hand, directs a surprise Kill at CIAS, whom I (and perhaps others) was beginning to suspect was indeed the Town Doc. Two kills seems like a lot for a Jack-of-all-trades so, with the supposedly Town-aligned Kills now all used up and only the Scum NK threatening, Charlie, having missed the Doc, finally declares that Doc should claim. Quoth Mr. Spock "Does not compute." I've gotten Town vibes from Charlie, and my suspicions here are likely misplaced. On the other hand, Charlie's voting record isn't too good. On the third hand, all the other players seem convinced Charlie's Town: Was there a Detection or something I've overlooked? We're still waiting to hear from MHaye, but I'm going to place a tentative vote: Vote: gnarlycharlieWhat's your opinion of this vote, Honest Moley ? it's a STUPID vote! did i not say i would explain if needed? maybe i should have taken YOU out instead. why would i admit it? is Story's logic infectious? look at my post yesterDay as well. storyteller, there is one piece of info which is very useful. MHaye's result on BillMC was he was truth on the fact he was now town. If MHaye is town, then BillMc is now town. Unless he is a lie-detector evading PFK win stealing mo-fo in which case this game is gastardly. Bill might also be the Godfather and would read as Town. that was one theory. well, we can also do this: 1. lynch someone, in this case, Ginger2. vig someone, whoever Story chooses 3. neuter another toNight (i'll see if i have something in my bag of tricks ) 4. lynch someone, whoever is most suspicious, if it's not over yet does not compute, eh? didn't you read my explanation why i want the Doc to claim? Town has a numerical superiority and can afford to lose the Doc. if the Doc claims, that narrows the vanilla pool and practically confirms whoever (s)he protected. DUHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! i think scum deserve to win if this is what Town has to offer. i'd vote for you but my vote is useless after trying to help Town by killing CIAS. i'll head out to the Dope now. i've neglected my game there completely and may have been lynched. but that seems more palatable than this.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 6, 2011 10:20:13 GMT -5
SisC, i don't know why this double posted. maybe my computer felt my rage. please fix. thanks!
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 6, 2011 10:28:13 GMT -5
Revised vote count:
Current vote count:
gnarlycharlie (2,1) septimus [12] Archangel (2,0) Moley (1,0)
With these votes, gnarlycharlie will be lynched.
Hammer (1):
guiri [11]
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Post by Renata on Jun 6, 2011 10:35:56 GMT -5
Gah, sorry. I'm so out of it today.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 6, 2011 11:12:15 GMT -5
I won't vote until we hear from MHaye. PLEASE tell me we've got a definite result on Ma'at. I have a definite result on Ma'at. ... what, you want to know what it is? Sister C, she say "True."
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2011 11:21:08 GMT -5
@septimus - If CatinaSuit were the Doctor, he'd have claimed yesterDay when I was waffling around. There's no way he'd have left it to chance and just wandered away hoping I wouldn't choose to target him. I agree with charly's choice of CIAS, as he was under suspicion yesterDay and narrowing the lynch pool for toDay doesn't really hurt anything. Certainly, CIAS is an unlikely Scum target given how many people wanted his head yesterDay.
@all - Is there a reason so many players are starting to act jerky here? It's a game, and people are taking it to a personal place that it needn't go.
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Post by septimus on Jun 6, 2011 14:26:43 GMT -5
I'll admit to being stupid, but I'm not getting personal, and am trying not to be jerky. With two prime candidates (or so we thought yesterday), it would seem logical to Vig-kill one and Lie-detect the other. Charlie and MHaye accomplished just that. If MHaye signalled and Charlie caught the signal, then part of my "complaint" against Charlie goes away. I missed that signal. As for CIAS claiming Doc if he were Doc, I'd have thought he'd have waited until you announced him as your target. I do see now that Charlie signalled he might have another Kill last Night; I missed that too. I'll be happy to retract my present vote ... if/when I figure out who the real Scum-bag is! Summary: I'll plead guilty to being stupid and unobservant. Sorry if I seem to also be "personal."
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 6, 2011 14:38:24 GMT -5
Vote Hammer@ Moley, can you confirm with the mod that there's no significance in the wording of the result you received, please? @ Story, I hope MHaye tested my claim yesterDay and can confirm I'm not a threat to Town. Moley's already confirmed I had no communication. @ Moley, Bill was not Town but 3rd party Mary Ann impersonating Alice: " You need to find and Kill Alice, so you can take over for her with no one the wiser, since the two of you are so alike." He apparently investigated as Town to a cop or lie detector because Mary Ann looked like Alice. I had a similar 3rd party-but-investigates-as-Town power in Scooby-Doo mafia as unwatchable-godfather-3rd party/PFK-SK-bomb. Ok, at point number one: done. At point number two: yeah, unless you were willing to completely cease all night-actions, I don't see you as a PFK. I am going to reconsider your possible scumminess although it seemed very, very early to "bus" Meeko. Ginger's vote made a lot more sense than yours, scum-wise. At point number three though: not that it particularly matters, but for the sake of clarity, I totally disagree, and the facts back me up. BillMC's role was given initially as Vanilla Town, then as Third-Party Stalker / SK, by the mod. - " Town" is confirmed by MHaye. If Bill can say outright "I am now town" and the lie detector confirms this (and isn't lying themselves), then he's town. Anything else would just be gastardly. We're not talking about the Godfather fooling the cop here. - " Stalker" no longer applies when your target is dead. (Although in every other game I've played with an "assassin"-type role, the odd thing is that the roleholder wins and leaves the game the moment their targets - and there's usually more than one - die. So the execution of the role is unconventional.) - " Serial Killer" obviously doesn't apply since BillMC hasn't killed anybody since his "conversion". In short, I find it a lot easier to believe that BillMC became town, than that he stayed a Serial Killer who didn't kill, and a Stalker who didn't stalk, investigated by a lie-detector who can't detect lies!
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 6, 2011 15:02:55 GMT -5
I won't vote until we hear from MHaye. PLEASE tell me we've got a definite result on Ma'at. I have a definite result on Ma'at. ... what, you want to know what it is? Sister C, she say "True." So, that (for me, anyway) clears Ma'at. Your pie, sir. I think "humble pie" in this case means "being repeatedly hit in the face by watermelons catapulted by Ma'at". But I probably deserve it anyways, so catapult away. ;D Oh, and Guiri, I can confirm I was cockblocked last night. But not necessarily roleblocked. Sis C's response to my PM (within fifteen minutes incidentally, that was pretty sharp going!) was "I got bored with the original phrasing." My current scum suspicion, just based on a re-read here, would be Rysto. - The only person who fits the role of malevolent PFK for me is GnarlyCharlie still, and (with apologies to Charlie himself) I can't rule that possibility out easily. I can't see how MHaye might not be the lie detector at this point - even if Squink was a setup to make him look good, he still pegged Guiri easily enough, and I don't see what purpose could possibly be served by putting Guiri in danger and then not exonerating him later on if they're in it together. Clearly, "lie detector" is not the kind of power a win-stealing PFK is going to have. He's either a cooperative third-party, or he's town. Either way, he's good with me. - MHaye confirms Ma'at, which I'll have to accept (I still think Ma'at has the soul of a scummy scum, even if not the role of one, mind you; so I was half-right. ) - Plankton is confirmed town. That leaves Archangel and Septimus. I don't believe either of them is scum, for reasons that I've stated enough times in the past that I'm not going to repeat myself now; but either COULD be a malicious PFK. If they are, though, I have to ask my original question: what have they been doing? There've been no unexplained kills, hats, etc. Plus, as I said before, we've already had a SK and a Mad Bomber role outed and eliminated from the game. Malicious PFKs aren't invisible, by their very nature their powers have to be high-profile (or they'd never get caught). So it boils down to this: - If we're looking for a malicious PFK, GnarlyCharlie is not only the most likely option, but the only reasonable one in my view. With literally everybody else, you have to explain why there has been a total lack of unexplainable things happening that could be the work of this hypothetical PFK. Gnarly is at least an admitted killer and could fit the bill. - If we're looking for scum who failed to kill (doc save or roleblock perhaps?) then there's one candidate for me who stands out above the rest: Rysto. On that basis, vote: Rysto. This is a preliminary vote and I'll be looking more at the other possible lynch targets (I only see four that are even remotely reasonable right now). But this seems like the best way to go at this point.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2011 15:58:49 GMT -5
Sister C: What was BillMc's alignment when he died? In other words, what did he "flip?"[/b]
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 6, 2011 16:42:42 GMT -5
I can see no way to answer that question without confirming or refuting a claimed role, so: No Comment.
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Post by Rysto on Jun 6, 2011 16:54:14 GMT -5
I really don't think that's a fair answer at all. MHaye made claims about squink's alignment, too. Should you not have told us her alignment either? How are we supposed to play this game if the death reveal doesn't unambiguously give the alignment of the dead?
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2011 17:39:13 GMT -5
septimus, I'm going to try to talk you out of voting for charly. If charly is Scum then either the Scum themselves killed Lightfoot or we have a very picky Serial Killer. Further, if charly is Scum then the Scum chose to target CatinaSuit yesterDay, in spite of the fact that Cat had every opportunity to claim Doc and did not, was in fact a claimed vanilla, and was already under considerable suspicion. And that's with Plankton and two other claimed power roles out there.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jun 6, 2011 17:51:02 GMT -5
Hey folks...I've been down with a nasty cold since Friday morning, and am just beginning to feel human again. I don't really have the energy to do any in-depth analysis of things right now, but I'll be back this evening or tomorrow morning...
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 6, 2011 18:08:43 GMT -5
At the time of his death, BillMc's alignment was Town.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Jun 6, 2011 18:33:00 GMT -5
Womp womp.
Well, that would make me wrong. Still not sorry, though :-)
Also makes MHaye look considerably better than he did about twelve hours ago.
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