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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 17, 2011 10:00:52 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
guiri (4,4): Honest Moley [9,69, 82], storyteller [11], Ma'at [18], Archangel [33,36], Suburban Plankton [83] Archangel (3,2)*: gnarlycharlie [4,70], Suburban Plankton [26,30], Archangel [36,68], Merestil Haye [52] gnarlycharlie (2,2): guiri [66], Archangel [68]
With these votes, guiri will be lynched.
ToDay will end in approximately ten hours
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 17, 2011 11:08:24 GMT -5
i'll get to answering questions a little later. i want to address something else. IIRC, guiri passed the MHaye's lie detector.
that made me think about MHaye's choice for his lie detector power. it is 'I am Town or Third Party.'
let's go over the scenarios:
1. his choice for the sentence to use is correct. therefore, only Archangel, Story and i haven't been cleared. please correct me if i am wrong. all Town has to do is lynch us one by one. i would probably choose Archangel or me first and Story last.
2. his choice of the sentence is wrong. all cleared by him (Moley and Ma'at) and guiri can be actually PFK and we are back to square one.
the first option is palatable compared to the second. but for both we would likely go with lynch vanilla, Third Party or me, then the power roles.
now as i was thinking about these two options, a third one appeared.
3. the sentence isn't relevant. taking a page out of the Story playbook, let's remember that Mhaye is not cleared but we are behaving as if he is. MHaye is scum. he may not even be a lie detector. i believe guiri claimed before he announced his result. he may have some other sort of investigative role. using the sentence 'I am Town or Third Party,' is a cover for his inability to tell between Town and Third Party.
i wonder if he will indulge me.
I am either PFK or Third Party.
I have two powers left.
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Post by Ma'at on Jun 17, 2011 12:41:40 GMT -5
Gnarley – that sentence tells us nothing. If it comes back false, you may be scum. If it comes back true, you may be PKF. Not sure what you’re getting at with that sentence, but seems like you’re implying it will somehow verify MHaye as either lying (and is therefore scum) or telling the truth. If MHaye is scum, it becomes pretty clear to us when he doesn’t get voted off either tonight or tomorrow night, so I don’t think we need you to try to prove this. It’s more important for you to give us a sentence that tells us something about you.
And as for answering questions "later", later when? The Day is over in less than 8 hours.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 17, 2011 12:54:51 GMT -5
Gnarley – that sentence tells us nothing. If it comes back false, you may be scum. If it comes back true, you may be PKF. Not sure what you’re getting at with that sentence, but seems like you’re implying it will somehow verify MHaye as either lying (and is therefore scum) or telling the truth. If MHaye is scum, it becomes pretty clear to us when he doesn’t get voted off either tonight or tomorrow night, so I don’t think we need you to try to prove this. It’s more important for you to give us a sentence that tells us something about you. And as for answering questions "later", later when? The Day is over in less than 8 hours. okay. I am scum. I am a threat to Town.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jun 17, 2011 12:57:25 GMT -5
gnarlycharlie,
Do you plan on placing a vote Today? If you're having a terribly difficult time choosing between two (or more) suspects, perhaps putting your thoughts down for the rest of us to read might be helpful. I can't imagine that you're just trying to delay your vote until the last possible moment, so what's the holdup?
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 17, 2011 13:15:17 GMT -5
gnarlycharlie, Do you plan on placing a vote Today? If you're having a terribly difficult time choosing between two (or more) suspects, perhaps putting your thoughts down for the rest of us to read might be helpful. I can't imagine that you're just trying to delay your vote until the last possible moment, so what's the holdup? i have put some of my thoughts down. i really don't think Archangel or guiri is scum. i think Story is Town. i'm Town. Vote MHayeif guiri is lynched and turns out to be the last scum, i'll be happy to be wrong. if he is who he says he is and i'm alive after toNight, i'll make the same vote.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 17, 2011 13:27:29 GMT -5
guiri (4,4): Honest Moley [9,69, 82], storyteller [11], Ma'at [18], Archangel [33,36], Suburban Plankton [83] Archangel (3,2)*: gnarlycharlie [4,70], Suburban Plankton [26,30], Archangel [36,68], Merestil Haye [52] gnarlycharlie (2,2): guiri [66], Archangel [68] Merestil Haye (1,1): gnarlycharlie [95]
With these votes, guiri will be lynched.
ToDay will end in approximately six and one-half hours
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jun 17, 2011 13:55:19 GMT -5
gnarlycharlie, Do you plan on placing a vote Today? If you're having a terribly difficult time choosing between two (or more) suspects, perhaps putting your thoughts down for the rest of us to read might be helpful. I can't imagine that you're just trying to delay your vote until the last possible moment, so what's the holdup? i have put some of my thoughts down. i really don't think Archangel or guiri is scum. i think Story is Town. i'm Town. Vote MHayeif guiri is lynched and turns out to be the last scum, i'll be happy to be wrong. if he is who he says he is and i'm alive after toNight, i'll make the same vote. Fair enough. Do you plan on answering any of the questions that have been posed to you today, or are you going to make us all wait until Tomorrow?
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jun 17, 2011 14:26:39 GMT -5
Do you plan on answering any of the questions that have been posed to you today, or are you going to make us all wait until Tomorrow? i was planning not answer any questions since i wasn't under threat but i did say if it was explained to my satisfaction why i should, i would. i think this will answer most, if not all, of everyone's questions. i would like to point out that the PM states that i give a separate PM during the Day and during the Night.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 17, 2011 14:36:49 GMT -5
guiri, If gnarlycharlie is a PFK, and there are no Scum remaining, then how do you explain septimus' death last Night? But if Moley is to be believed, he was not responsible for last Night's death, unless you believe he sent the kill order in Yesterday, and received a reply Yesterday, with no subsequent communication from The Mod last Night. While possible, I find that unlikely. I don't think it's unlikely that Gnarly submitted an order to kill Septimus before the end of the Day. I don't think it's unlikely either; Gnarley must have known that there was a good chance he'd be tracked last night. If he's a PFK and there was any way of evading my gaze, he'd take it. None of which proves anything, only that it was POSSIBLE for Gnarley to have submitted a secret kill order. Ugh, this is one of those situations where the watchers are probably screaming at their computers: "YOU MORON! IT'S THAT ONE! LYNCH HIM!" but for the life of me I don't see much to choose between two of you. Four town-sided killers feels like a bit much, but then so does two serial killers. Ugh, you know what... I'm still hung up over that second Meeko vote. Clever bussing, possibly, but again, I keep coming back to Squink. I just do not see the two scum acting that way, especially given my thoughts on Dirx's murder. And despite my misgivings of a critically underpowered scum team, Ginger gave up awfully easily, which kinda makes sense if she didn't have any partners left and Ma'at isn't scum. Unvote: Guiri.Vote: GnarleyCharlie.
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Post by Holy Moley! on Jun 17, 2011 14:46:27 GMT -5
i'll get to answering questions a little later. i want to address something else. IIRC, guiri passed the MHaye's lie detector. that made me think about MHaye's choice for his lie detector power. it is 'I am Town or Third Party.' let's go over the scenarios: 1. his choice for the sentence to use is correct. therefore, only Archangel, Story and i haven't been cleared. please correct me if i am wrong. all Town has to do is lynch us one by one. i would probably choose Archangel or me first and Story last. 2. his choice of the sentence is wrong. all cleared by him ( Moley and Ma'at) and guiri can be actually PFK and we are back to square one. the first option is palatable compared to the second. but for both we would likely go with lynch vanilla, Third Party or me, then the power roles. now as i was thinking about these two options, a third one appeared. 3. the sentence isn't relevant. taking a page out of the Story playbook, let's remember that Mhaye is not cleared but we are behaving as if he is. MHaye is scum. he may not even be a lie detector. i believe guiri claimed before he announced his result. he may have some other sort of investigative role. using the sentence 'I am Town or Third Party,' is a cover for his inability to tell between Town and Third Party. i wonder if he will indulge me. I am either PFK or Third Party. I have two powers left. The problem is that "lie detector" IS one of the list of powers on Sis C's list. However... good point about Guiri claiming before MHaye himself indicted him. One final point though: I was very careful to say that I regarded MHaye as among a group of "almost cleared" players before I investigated him. I certainly don't think I gave away any of my suspicions there. MHaye's result was this (using italics because they're less trouble than quote tags): Guiri it is; if he is Mafia, he's good at it, and if he's not he's a good Mafia hunter that the Mafia will have to deal with, sooner or later.Which matches exactly what MHaye himself wrote. Since voting you now would pretty much doom Archangel, which is the last thing I want to happen: Unvote: GnarlyCharlieVote: GuiriAnd we're back to square one.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jun 17, 2011 14:53:15 GMT -5
i'll get to answering questions a little later. i want to address something else. IIRC, guiri passed the MHaye's lie detector. You don't remember correctly. I tested the claim by Guiri that he was Town. That claim was false. The fact that Guiri was not cleared was one of the main reasons I came up with the alternative. Add Guiri to your list. So, are you hypothesising I am Mafia aligned, or straight out stating that? If the latter, how do you know? No, I will not. Not with that statement anyway. "I am a threat to Town" (which you claim later) is acceptable to me though, thanks.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jun 17, 2011 14:54:38 GMT -5
i think this will answer most, if not all, of everyone's questions. i would like to point out that the PM states that i give a separate PM during the Day and during the Night. I do have a couple more questions: So on Day 3 you stole Ed's power, Day 4 Dirx', and Day 5 LightFoot's; is that correct? What if anything did you do on Day 2? Day 6 you would have had the choice to steal from Ginger, Bill, or CIAS. Ginger and CIAS had no powers; did you attempt to steal from Bill, and if so, what was the result? Your PM talks exclusively about stealing from the deceased from Night Kills. Are you also capable of stealing from those players lynched or otherwise Day killed?
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 17, 2011 15:18:03 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
guiri (4,4): Honest Moley [9,69,82,99,100], storyteller [11], Ma'at [18], Archangel [33,36], Suburban Plankton [83] Archangel (3,2)*: gnarlycharlie [4,70], Suburban Plankton [26,30], Archangel [36,68], Merestil Haye [52] gnarlycharlie (2,3): guiri [66], Archangel [68], Honest Moley [99,100] Merestil Haye (1,1): gnarlycharlie [95]
With these votes, guiri will be lynched.
ToDay will end in approximately four and three-quarters hours. I think.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jun 17, 2011 15:44:08 GMT -5
[quote author=gnarlycharlie board=woo thread=1642 post=79696 time=1308334517i have put some of my thoughts down. i really don't think Archangel or guiri is scum. i think Story is Town. i'm Town.
Vote MHaye
if guiri is lynched and turns out to be the last scum, i'll be happy to be wrong. if he is who he says he is and i'm alive after toNight, i'll make the same vote.[/quote] We successfully lynched Scum (Meeko) on Day 3. Then on Day 4, at a point where the vote was Archangel-4, Metallic Squink-3, MHaye made his claim and announced that Squink was a liar, directly leading to her lynch that Day.
So you're saying that directly off the heels of having one Scum lynched, he decided to throw a second Scum under the bus, instead of keeping quiet and hoping that the Archangel bandwagon kept rolling? It's not like Squink was beyond saving at that point.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jun 17, 2011 15:45:24 GMT -5
Massive coding fail in that last post. that was a reply to gnarlycharlie's Post 95
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Post by guiri on Jun 17, 2011 18:30:49 GMT -5
Oh well, just got home and need to sleep.
Unvote Vote archangel
She'll win when Town wins whether she's alive or not, I need to stay alive...
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 17, 2011 18:35:51 GMT -5
Current Vote Count:
Archangel (4,2)*: gnarlycharlie [4,70], Suburban Plankton [26,30], Archangel [36,68], Merestil Haye [52], guiri [106] guiri (4,4): Honest Moley [9,69,82,99,100], storyteller [11], Ma'at [18], Archangel [33,36], Suburban Plankton [83] gnarlycharlie (1,3): guiri [66,106], Archangel [68], Honest Moley [99,100] Merestil Haye (1,1): gnarlycharlie [95]
With these votes, Archangel will be lynched.
ToDay will end in approximately one and one-half hours
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Post by Archangel on Jun 17, 2011 19:19:19 GMT -5
Unvote GnarlyCharlie
[bVote Guiri][/b][/color]
It probably won't do any good, and I don't think Guiri is scum, but I know I'm town and he's not.
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Post by Archangel on Jun 17, 2011 19:19:53 GMT -5
Vote Guiri,
that is.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jun 17, 2011 19:59:54 GMT -5
Day has ended. Night will be up in just one second.
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