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Day 5
Jul 30, 2011 23:05:00 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Jul 30, 2011 23:05:00 GMT -5
You guys don't want to know how bad my weekend has been.
After hitting a raccoon with my brand new car*, and now having issues with my right [my only good ear**] ear, I am in no mood to do anything.
*Yes, this happened. Yes, I kinda do like raccoons. Yes, there is lasting damage to the car.
** Yes this is happening currently, I hope you guys never know having your ears cut out on you and stop working at random. Sucks.
Sister Coyote has died. Sister Coyote was a Vanilla Lemmus Amurensis, better known as an Amur Lemming.
Fubbleskag has died.Fubbleskad was a Elephas Maximus, better known as an Asian Elephant. He was the town cop.
Day 5 will end this Friday 8/5 at 12:01 am. [/b]
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Day 5
Jul 30, 2011 23:22:22 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Jul 30, 2011 23:22:22 GMT -5
borrowed from guiri and then from ed
D1 vote count, E&OE:
TrepaMayfield (7): Guiri #76, Lightfoot #99-270, SilverJan #117-269, Colby #133, SuburbanPlankton #134, CaptainPinkies #141, CassidyScarlet #149-291, Archangel #161, SpecialEd #311, MoodyMitchy #313
Colby (4): GnarlyCharlie #180, SisterCoyote #189, TrepaMayfield #204-305, Texcat #290, CassidyScarlet #291
SpecialEd (1): Fubbleskag #68 CassidyScarlet (1): Ginger #123 Texcat (1): Lightfoot #270
Guiri (0): TrepaMayfield #59-83, CassidyScarlet #109-149, SilverJan #275-277 Metallic/Inner (0): TrepaMayfield #98-138 SisterCoyote (0): MoodyMitchy #103-313 SilverJan (0): TrepaMayfield #138-204
Not voting (6): Metallic/Inner, Deni, Storyteller, SilverJan, TrepaMayfield, CatInASuit
D2 Vote Count:
Colby (6): SisterCoyote[126], TexCat[181], Archangel[185], SpecialEd[194], GnarlyCharlie[196], JustBeingGinger[221]
SuburbanPlankton (4): Lightfoot[158], SilverJan[160], CatInASuit[182], Colby[188]
Archangel (2): MoodyMitchy[98], CaptainPinkies [207]
Texcat (1): InnerStickler[12] MoodyMitchy (1): Guiri[104] CatInASuit (1): SuburbanPlankton[187]
Captain Pinkies (0): SpecialEd[2-194], JustBeingGinger[108-221] Guiri (0): SilverJan[65-160], Colby[110-129] JustBeingGinger (0): SuburbanPlankton[124-187]
Not voting: Deni, Fubbleskag, Storyteller
Day 3 Special Ed (4) : Archangel, Suburban Plankton, JBGinger, Deni Deni (3) : Guiri, CIAS, Inner Stickler Captain Pinkies (1) Special Ed, Archangel (1) : captain pinkies Storyteller (2) : LightFoot, MoodyMitchy Not voting: Fubbleskag, Sister Coyote, gnarlycharlie, storyteller, silver jan, I added just the end of day count from Day 3.
Vote Count D4
Deni (9): Silver Jan, JBGinger, CIAS, GnarlyCharly. Inner Sticker, SuburanPlankton, SisCoyote, MoodyMitchy, storyteller
Fubble (1): Deni
CIAS (1): LightFoot
Also borrowed from guiri and ed and updated
Alive/claims:
4. GnarlyCharlie 5. JustBeingGinger 6. Archangel, Wrangel Island Lemming, Vanilla 7. InnerStickler 9. moodymitchy, Raccoon, Mason 10. LightFoot, Raccoon, Mason 12. SuburbanPlankton 16. Storyteller 17. SilverJan, Wrangel Island Lemming, Vanilla 20. CatInASuit
Dead/quarantined: 19. TrepaMayfield, Amur Lemming, Vanilla, lynched D1 14. CassidyScarlet, Siberian Brown Lemming, Vanilla, killed N1 13. Colby11, Amur Lemming, Vanilla, lynched D2 8. Texcat, Siberian Brown Lemming, Vanilla, killed N2 1. SpecialEd, Wrangel Island Lemming, Vanilla, Lynched Day 3 2. CaptainPinkies, Doctor, Western Screech Owl, killed N3 11. Guiri, Siberian Brown Lemming, killed N3 15. Deni, lynched D4 3. SisterCoyote, Amur Lemming, killed N4 18. Fubbleskag, Elephant, Cop, killed N4
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Day 5
Jul 31, 2011 10:02:47 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 31, 2011 10:02:47 GMT -5
Well, no big surprises there... outrun CatInaSuitSee D4-45 and D4-92 for my reasoning.
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Day 5
Jul 31, 2011 13:30:48 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 31, 2011 13:30:48 GMT -5
Oh , it looks as if Scum took out Fubbles and the Vig took out SisC, it seems very dangerous having a Vig in the game that takes out Town. I quite like the cases on CIAS but I think I will read her posts for myself before I vote.
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Day 5
Jul 31, 2011 13:31:18 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 31, 2011 13:31:18 GMT -5
NETA, sorry you had such a bad weekend Meeko
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Day 5
Jul 31, 2011 16:14:23 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 31, 2011 16:14:23 GMT -5
If that's the case it was a bad move by the Vig....
I feel they would have been better just lying low rather than just going on a hunch...
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 0:42:57 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Aug 1, 2011 0:42:57 GMT -5
Vote: Suburban Plankton The relevant portions of the posts he linked to are below. The one only says there's little to judge CIAS on. (And in fact, in that same post he goes on to vote for me. An amazing post indeed, to be evidence that I'm the more worthy lynch on one day and CIAS the scum another.) The other post doesn't even mention CIAS until the very bottom where he blithely asserts that he thinks CIAS is scum. Coupled with the mere linking, as opposed to requoting, this all screams, "Look, a case with evidence and everything but don't worry about looking too hard at the justification. CatInaSuitHis biggest contribution to the game has been to say things like "Sorry I haven't been participating. I'm back now, and will try to catch up". Has only voted 2 of the 4 Days, and came back to say that one of those (his vote on Suburban on Day 2) was a mistake, based as it was on a false assumption. Really not much to go on here. Looking at the voters on both colby and Suburban on Day 2, we see: Voting for colby - 2 dead Townies, 2 fubbles-confirmed Townies, SisC, and gnarlyVoting for Suburban - 1 dead Scum, 1 claimed Mason, Silver Jan, and CatInaSuitBased on this and what I said in Post D4-45, I'd put CatInaSuit at the top of my list of probable Scum after Deni.
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 7:24:42 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on Aug 1, 2011 7:24:42 GMT -5
If that's the case it was a bad move by the Vig.... I feel they would have been better just lying low rather than just going on a hunch... This is not correct. At this stage of the game, the Vig should absolutely be shooting, even blind - (s)he can only hit vanilla, and every dead vanilla shrinks the pool of unknowns and lynchables. The Vig should keep killing non-confirmed players Speaking of which, I am thinking through the scenarios regarding whether or not the Vig should claim toDay. On the down side, a Vig claim toDay probably guarantees a Vig death toNight. On the up side, though, if the Vig claims toDay (s)he will probably not be counterclaimed, shrinking the Scum's hiding pool ever further. I'm holding off on an opinion until I work through all the possible outcomes, but I wanted to put this out there for discussion.
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 9:45:02 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 1, 2011 9:45:02 GMT -5
Hmm, this is getting interesting.
Putting all the logic out AFAICT
We have 4 known town, 6 unknown.
The Good news: If the Vig is unknown, a claim would make it 5/5 and a lynch of an unknown would make it 5/4 known/unknown.
Scum kill the vig/ vig takes out an unknown overnight makes it 4/3 with a following unknown lynch will make it 4/2 known/unknown and the scum lose. Pretty simple.
The Bad news: The vig is already in the known pool and is JustBeingGinger, as Archangel has already claimed and as town is likely to be honest with the claim.
Unknown lynch makes it 4/5 known/unknown and the scum kill JBG/JBG strikes into the unknown pool makes it 3/4 and things get really nervy.
So the simple news is that if someone in the unknown pool wants to claim Vig, then it's game over. Otherwise its JBG and this game is far from over.
I know which one the scum are hoping it will be....
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 10:01:40 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 1, 2011 10:01:40 GMT -5
Just looking back through Day 4, I think every assumption about running the endgame has the Vig in the unknown pool.
None of them cover the assumption that the Vig had already been investigated by the Cop.
Ok, so who assumed JBG was vanilla then?
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 11:11:31 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Aug 1, 2011 11:11:31 GMT -5
[/color] The relevant portions of the posts he linked to are below. The one only says there's little to judge CIAS on. (And in fact, in that same post he goes on to vote for me. An amazing post indeed, to be evidence that I'm the more worthy lynch on one day and CIAS the scum another.) The other post doesn't even mention CIAS until the very bottom where he blithely asserts that he thinks CIAS is scum. Coupled with the mere linking, as opposed to requoting, this all screams, "Look, a case with evidence and everything but don't worry about looking too hard at the justification. CatInaSuitHis biggest contribution to the game has been to say things like "Sorry I haven't been participating. I'm back now, and will try to catch up". Has only voted 2 of the 4 Days, and came back to say that one of those (his vote on Suburban on Day 2) was a mistake, based as it was on a false assumption. Really not much to go on here. Looking at the voters on both colby and Suburban on Day 2, we see: Voting for colby - 2 dead Townies, 2 fubbles-confirmed Townies, SisC, and gnarlyVoting for Suburban - 1 dead Scum, 1 claimed Mason, Silver Jan, and CatInaSuitBased on this and what I said in Post D4-45, I'd put CatInaSuit at the top of my list of probable Scum after Deni. [/quote] In the first post you quote, I was working under the assumption that our remaining Scum were among Silver Jan, storyteller, CIaS, and Inner Stickler. I eliminated Silver Jan, noted that story and CIaS had not posted enough to judge them by, and so voted for Inner Stickler by a process of elimination. In the second post, I looked at Sister Coyote and gnarlycharlie, who I had previously marked down as 'probable Town'. In that post, I reaffirmed by belief that they are both Town. While doing that, I examined the votes on Day 2 between Suburban and colby, with the thought in mind that there was an attempt by Scum there to save colby. Of the four votes on Suburban, two were from 'confirmed' Town, one was from Silver Jan, who I believe to be Town, and one was from CIaS. With that in mind, CatInaSuit moved to the top of my suspect list, so I voted for him.
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 12:04:35 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 1, 2011 12:04:35 GMT -5
Well, no big surprises there... outrun CatInaSuitSee D4-45 and D4-92 for my reasoning. It dawned on me, that I was behind on this. And on review, I'm even more behind than I thought. ....... Vote Count
CIAS (1) : Suburban Plankton Suburban Plankton (1) : Inner Stickler
Anyone else?
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 13:02:52 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Aug 1, 2011 13:02:52 GMT -5
Just looking back through Day 4, I think every assumption about running the endgame has the Vig in the unknown pool. None of them cover the assumption that the Vig had already been investigated by the Cop. Ok, so who assumed JBG was vanilla then? To be honest, I did and I know it's bad to make assumptions, just ask LightFoot. But what I don't get is why would you try and out JBG as the Vig when you are making an assumption yourself, this just seems to put a huge target on her back? I know that if you thought of it scum could too but why draw their attention to it?
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 15:00:18 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Aug 1, 2011 15:00:18 GMT -5
Just looking back through Day 4, I think every assumption about running the endgame has the Vig in the unknown pool. None of them cover the assumption that the Vig had already been investigated by the Cop. Ok, so who assumed JBG was vanilla then? To be honest, I did and I know it's bad to make assumptions, just ask LightFoot. But what I don't get is why would you try and out JBG as the Vig when you are making an assumption yourself, this just seems to put a huge target on her back? I know that if you thought of it scum could too but why draw their attention to it? I have no problem with a target on my back. Outrun CatInASuitSilverJan is right, what you posted is very anti-town.
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 15:01:08 GMT -5
Post by JustBeingGinger on Aug 1, 2011 15:01:08 GMT -5
Rats...
Outrun CatInASuit
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 16:08:08 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Aug 1, 2011 16:08:08 GMT -5
If the lynch leader claims Vig.... What should we do then ?
I'm suspicious of CatInASuit but wonder if the reasons they have been quite is due to them being the Vig...
That said why they would then try to push JustBeingGinger as the Vig is beyond me...
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Day 5
Aug 1, 2011 17:33:45 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Aug 1, 2011 17:33:45 GMT -5
Is there a headsmacky smiley? CIAS sitting on his musings about the gamestate is anti-town. There's no value to not sharing information from town on the off-chance scum didn't think of it. And of course, an obvious reason for pushing JustBG as the vig is that there are 3 unconfirmed town. The scum could be thinking it's about time to try to take out the vig. Painting the only unknown confirmed town as a possible Vig keeps the scum attention focused on the confirmed, which is where we want them.
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 6:59:37 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 2, 2011 6:59:37 GMT -5
Anti-town You're all kidding right. Putting out information like this and getting ideas on the table is the responsibility of every town player. Why, so we can understand what is going on and what is the best way to deal with it. Also, watching for the reaction from other people is vital as to whether we can determine if they town or scum. Look, it is a fact that the Vig is either unknown or JBG - how hard is that to understand? It's not an assumption, its an either or case. The only proviso to that as I mentioned first time around is if Archangel lied about her role and is the Vig instead, but as she is town its unlikely. How is it anti-town for me to show that if the Vig is in the unknown pool, then this game is over and done. Stick a fork in it, etc. etc. Personally, I really, really hope that JBG is a vanilla because the game is over. The only problem is going to be if JBG is the Vig because that is the only other option left. And if I can work that out, then so can the scum. Thinking further about it, there is no need for the Vig to claim today, regardless of who they are, unless they are in the unknown pool and about to be lynched.
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 7:09:11 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 2, 2011 7:09:11 GMT -5
To be honest, I did and I know it's bad to make assumptions, just ask LightFoot. But what I don't get is why would you try and out JBG as the Vig when you are making an assumption yourself, this just seems to put a huge target on her back? I know that if you thought of it scum could too but why draw their attention to it?Ok, so I thought of it and so could the scum and I am drawing their attention to it? In other words I am telling the scum something while not being part of the scum? How do you know for certain who is or is not part of the scum? Outrun SilverJan
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 7:33:17 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 2, 2011 7:33:17 GMT -5
Vote Count
CIAS (2) : Suburban Plankton, JBGinger Suburban Plankton (1) : Inner Stickler Silver Jan (1) : CIAS
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 7:45:07 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Aug 2, 2011 7:45:07 GMT -5
so far, i'm not seeing the cases against SP and CIAS. perhaps it's because there seems to be little to go on and the game has slown down considerably. i have had to be away and yet there haven't been a lot of posts in my absence.
i do like story's idea that the Vig should take out unknowns (yes, that includes me) even if s/he is shooting blindly between the Vig and the lynches, town can eliminate scum faster than scum can take out confirmed town.
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 16:04:21 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Aug 2, 2011 16:04:21 GMT -5
To be honest, I did and I know it's bad to make assumptions, just ask LightFoot. But what I don't get is why would you try and out JBG as the Vig when you are making an assumption yourself, this just seems to put a huge target on her back? I know that if you thought of it scum could too but why draw their attention to it?Ok, so I thought of it and so could the scum and I am drawing their attention to it? In other words I am telling the scum something while not being part of the scum? How do you know for certain who is or is not part of the scum? Outrun SilverJanGoodness, you have me so confused now and I want to retaliate cos I know I am a Town Lemming, even though it hasn't been confirmed, you know I brought up the Lemmings first. No, you are not telling scum what they know, you want to make JBG out herself, if she is in fact the Vig! Outrun Catinasuit
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 17:09:15 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Aug 2, 2011 17:09:15 GMT -5
And now we're just making things up? Jesus christ.
If CIAS is scum then scum are already sizing JBG up for being the vig. If he's not scum, then you shouldn't be voting for him. If JBG is the vig, then she can decide for herself when and where she wants to claim. No one until now has publicly considered the implications of JBG being the vig and CIAS bringing that up is not scummy. Vote for him if you think he's scum, but if this is your rationale, than you're not thinking very hard and are playing a lazy game.
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 17:17:47 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Aug 2, 2011 17:17:47 GMT -5
So I take it that you are talking to me HUH, well I am not playing a lazy game, but I do remember you jumping like a scalded rabbit when I voted for you. I think you should calm down cos i am voting for CIAS. AND then I may vote for........
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Day 5
Aug 2, 2011 23:22:23 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on Aug 2, 2011 23:22:23 GMT -5
Tough talk coming from someone who couldn't be bothered to vote 2 of the 4 past days.
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Day 5
Aug 3, 2011 5:57:00 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 3, 2011 5:57:00 GMT -5
Ok, so I thought of it and so could the scum and I am drawing their attention to it? In other words I am telling the scum something while not being part of the scum? How do you know for certain who is or is not part of the scum? Outrun SilverJanGoodness, you have me so confused now and I want to retaliate cos I know I am a Town Lemming, even though it hasn't been confirmed, you know I brought up the Lemmings first. No, you are not telling scum what they know, you want to make JBG out herself, if she is in fact the Vig! Outrun CatinasuitInteresting response. I note you don't actually refute what I said when voting for you, that you placed myself and the scum in two seperate categories. You appear to have done it again in the above post, separating the scum and I. It could be a verbal slip, but then again it might not. But you didn't refute it, so......... Finally, I have no intention of outing JBG and I have no possible method to do so. All I have done is point out the possiblity of what happens if JBG is the vig. I think you have completely skimmed the part in my posts where it says that I do not want the Vig to out themselves. And I think you completely missed the part where I say that I hope JBG is not the Vig, because then it is game over!!!!What's really depressing is the fact she hasn't claimed anything makes me think I have this one on the nose. Sorry about this JBG, but its better for the town to consider this option, than to hide it and for everyone to suddenly go from "How can we lose?" to "oops, we stuffed up somewhere!"
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Day 5
Aug 3, 2011 7:14:58 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 3, 2011 7:14:58 GMT -5
Vote Count
CIAS (3) : Suburban Plankton, JBGinger, Silver Jan Suburban Plankton (1) : Inner Stickler Silver Jan (1) : CIAS
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Day 5
Aug 3, 2011 7:58:17 GMT -5
Post by Meeko on Aug 3, 2011 7:58:17 GMT -5
There is a chance that I won't be here at midnight est friday. Day will end at the posted time, even if I am not here. I need to check my work schedule for next week, and then I can be more firm on my decision. This is just a heads up for now.OOG If the schedule allows, I will be going out with friends. If the schedule doesn't allow, I will update the game at it's regular time. Going to go see Rocky Horror. This will be my second time, so I won't go as a Virgin. Of course, I'm not holding out hope that I will understand the plot any better this time. Then again, it's Rocky Horror, I doubt anyone understands it. The first time I went, I went with a friend. That night was his 100th time going to see it. He was of the school of thought that no one can ever fully understand the experience. /OOG
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Day 5
Aug 3, 2011 9:58:05 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 3, 2011 9:58:05 GMT -5
So let's see, it's Day 5, we have one page and half a dozen votes.
Oh grief.
Can we get some comments and thoughts in here please?
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Day 5
Aug 3, 2011 10:23:29 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Aug 3, 2011 10:23:29 GMT -5
Hmmm, votes by person by Day looking at the unknowns:
GnarlyCharlie: D1 - colby, D2 - colby, D3 - No vote, D4 - Deni
InnerStickler: D1 - No vote, D2 - Texcat, D3 - Deni, D4 - Deni
SuburbanPlankton: D1 - TrepaMayfield, JustBeingGinger/CatInASuit, D3 - Special Ed, D4 - Deni
Storyteller: D1 - No Vote, D2 - No Vote, D3 - No Vote, D4 - Deni
SilverJan: D1 - TrepaMayfield, D2 - Guiri/SuburbanPlankton, D3 - No Vote, D4 - Deni
CatInASuit: D1 - No Vote, D2 - SuburbanPlankton, D3 - Deni, D4 - Deni
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