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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 16, 2011 12:46:32 GMT -5
"adamant" I think that's overstating my position by quite a bit. I'd like to see where you think I was adamant. HUH!! Adamant by the vote 2 days in a row and by saying that Ed's 3 vote count was a scum laugh! Have you changed your mind about me?
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Post by texcat on Sept 16, 2011 13:11:56 GMT -5
6. I think Bill would have been an excellent recruitment possibility, but he's dead now, so that clearly didn't happen. A question for you: what ELSE should we be going on right now? Is there a better option than trying to find recruits or aiming mostly blindly for the MPP? And what criteria should we use to figure that out? If I were the MPP, my first recruit would have been you. vote guiri[/color][/quote] This seems like a dangerous argument to make. Don't you think you would be an early recruit as well, Drain? We're only guessing at who the MPP might have recruited and I'm not sure that killing off our best players is really advantageous for town. Do you any other reason for voting guiri?
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 16, 2011 13:12:12 GMT -5
So I'm not liking Silver Jan's response to Texcat here. "adamant" I think that's overstating my position by quite a bit. I'd like to see where you think I was adamant. HUH!! Adamant by the vote 2 days in a row and by saying that Ed's 3 vote count was a scum laugh! Have you changed your mind about me?Implies less that she finds Texcat's two day vote on her suspicious as much as that she cares more whether or not Texcat finds her suspicious.
Vote: Silver Jan
Not liking her a whole lot at all right now.
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Post by texcat on Sept 16, 2011 13:24:07 GMT -5
"adamant" I think that's overstating my position by quite a bit. I'd like to see where you think I was adamant. HUH!! Adamant by the vote 2 days in a row and by saying that Ed's 3 vote count was a scum laugh! Have you changed your mind about me? On Day 2 without much to go on, I think I'd be crazy to be adamant about any vote. I haven't seen anything more convincing than your slip to vote for. It's not so much changing my mind about you as finding something scummier to vote for. I'm not sure what my comment on Ed's laugh had to do with anything. I was trying to make a point that only 3 votes was not good for town and that pods were probably laughing as well.
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 16, 2011 13:28:46 GMT -5
I think Texcat voted for me cos he KNOWS I am town lol I cannot defend myself anymore, it's like a broken record singing the wrong tune.
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 16, 2011 13:34:01 GMT -5
So I'm not liking Silver Jan's response to Texcat here. HUH!! Adamant by the vote 2 days in a row and by saying that Ed's 3 vote count was a scum laugh! Have you changed your mind about me?Implies less that she finds Texcat's two day vote on her suspicious as much as that she cares more whether or not Texcat finds her suspicious.
Vote: Silver Jan
Not liking her a whole lot at all right now.That's mean, I like ME a whole lot! I know I am not scum at the moment but if the MPP recruited me then they have a problem, I always look like scum If I was the MPP I would look for innocent looking peoples, wouldn't you? And seriously I'm not scum.
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 16, 2011 13:59:38 GMT -5
Where is all the bodies, just me and Tex fighting. My goodness, This is my second favourite game. Favourite is underlined in red, hmmmmm makes me laugh
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 16, 2011 14:54:13 GMT -5
No one else is playing
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Post by Drain Bead on Sept 16, 2011 15:04:00 GMT -5
I have decided to Vote TexcatHe is adamant about me being scum so I think he must have some inside information and he really knows that I'm Town. Um, wha? I'm not getting this at all. He's so sure I'm Scum that he must really know I'm Town? I'm not seeing how that follows.
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 16, 2011 15:41:40 GMT -5
Hey Drain, I think we are both being nailed.
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Post by guiri on Sept 16, 2011 15:57:09 GMT -5
6. I think Bill would have been an excellent recruitment possibility, but he's dead now, so that clearly didn't happen. A question for you: what ELSE should we be going on right now? Is there a better option than trying to find recruits or aiming mostly blindly for the MPP? And what criteria should we use to figure that out? If last Night's recruit was successful, we should have 2 players who are somewhat coordinated. One of these is likely acting a little differently to yesterDay and may even have to alter their approach to several other players (future recruits). YesterDay you made a number of mistakes due to skimming or careless play, you avoided strategy discussions and left your vote on Dirx based on your well known policy. ToDay you seem more focused, have suggested a strategic approach you didn't choose to comment on yesterDay, and appear to have abandoned your suspicions of Dirx despite your confidence in the first-to-point-out-PIS scum tell. That's why I wanted to hear from you. Vote DrainI'd be comfortable with a SilverJan lynch too. If I were the MPP, my first recruit would have been you. vote guiri If you are not the MPP, what makes you think the MPP would make the same choice as you? Your reasoning might have been OK for a D1 vote, sure, we were shooting into the dark, but toDay I think we have more to go on.
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Post by texcat on Sept 16, 2011 16:41:37 GMT -5
Unofficial vote tally: paranoia 2: sinjin 33, SisCoyote 50 SilverJan 2: texcat 34, paranoia 62 Inner Stickler 1: peeker 16 guiri 1: Drain Bead 56 texcat 1: SilverJan 57 Drain Bead 1: guiri 70
Not voting: RedSk, Inner, Deni, PolluxOil, Dirx
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Post by Sister Coyote on Sept 16, 2011 17:52:19 GMT -5
I am concerned about Skeezix's silence. Dirx tends to be a late-in-the-Day voter, so his lack of a vote doesn't perturb me.
Has Inner made a statement about his alignment? Or, IS, are you figuring in this game it's a moot point? Or have I finally managed to confuse you with someone else?
I don't know what to do/think about Deni and PolluxO, tho.
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Post by Pollux Oil on Sept 16, 2011 17:55:03 GMT -5
Vote: Silver Jan
I was willing to give the possible PIS slip a pass on Day One, simply because there were ways I could see an innocent person could have accidentally assumed some sort of information, from the sign-up thread/previous game/etc.
But the PIS slip, combined with this pretty hardcore OMGUS vote on texcat, it just stinks fishy to me.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 16, 2011 22:18:56 GMT -5
No one else is playing uh i gave you a scum. nobody feels inclined to do anything about it. i'll just sit in the corner until you all get your shit together.
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Post by Paranoia on Sept 16, 2011 22:19:06 GMT -5
I go away for a few hours and nothing much has happened.
*taps on the glass* oi. This is one of those games where we need people here n' talking if we're actually going to figure this out.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 16, 2011 22:23:03 GMT -5
I am concerned about Skeezix's silence. Dirx tends to be a late-in-the-Day voter, so his lack of a vote doesn't perturb me. <snipped> interesting observation. so because he tends to be a lazy turd you give him carte blanche to continue being a lazy turd. i mean i like dirx because if he plays that means ed doesn't win and that is otay. but seriously?
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 16, 2011 22:25:00 GMT -5
And seriously I'm not scum. <snipped> thank fucking god. someone i can finally trust.
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Post by Deni on Sept 16, 2011 22:49:57 GMT -5
In this type of set up it seems to me that finding scum should be easier as the days go on as we hopefully gain more knowledge and see possible strategy changes in player. Day 1 and even toDay is sort of like randomly throwing a machete into the crowd and hoping it hits the right one. I would think it would make the most sense to vote out the ones most likely to be recruited but a couple of things wrong with that idea. As has been discussed, everyone has a different idea on who they would recruit and if we got rid of the good active players then we basically had over the game to the scum pods. For example, if I was the MPP I would have recruited Bill, Dirx and Guiri clearly our MPP did not but I also haven't played with everyone that is playing in this game so I am hardly the best opinion to go on. Also if they are not podded they would be useful in hunting down the pods. I am at a loss as to how to vote. As for Silver I don't think she is the MPP and she does have a nasty habit of dying young so I'm not sure the MPP would have recruited her. I would think the MPP would want their recruits to become podded before the mob got them.
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Post by Deni on Sept 16, 2011 22:57:55 GMT -5
~snipped~ i mean i like dirx because if he plays that means ed doesn't win and that is otay. but seriously? ummm... you do realize Ed can't win this one... right? ;D
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Post by Dirx on Sept 17, 2011 1:25:32 GMT -5
ummm... you do realize Ed can't win this one... right? ;D He can if I'm on the losing team. (I'm on an 8-game streak right now, though, so he better not hold his breath peeker: yeah, I vote late, and the rest o' y'all just gotta deal with that, whether I'm given carte blanche or not. But, seeing as Day ends tomorrow, let me try to vote now. I probably shouldn't, because I'm still working off a strong Long Island Ice Tea, but what the hell. Red hasn't posted today at all. Lurking would be one thing, but complete absence is a null-tell. I don't think he's the type of player to deliberately remain silent for a whole Day. Hope he's able to show up soon. Inner was the postcount leader all Day Yesterday. He's been very mum Today. Sure, part of it was IRL stuff, apparently, based on his last post, but he didn't seem to indicate that's been the case for the whole Day. The talkative difference is kinda striking. Possibly recruited and trying to lay low now with the new alignment? Idunno. Texcat seems rather sure that Red Skeezix is almost as good as confirmed town for Today. This concerns me. In my earlier post (somewhere at the top of page 2), I theorized how he could be very likely town today, but I also pointed out how that only works if the plan as discussed Yesterday was performed by all roles involved. We can't possibly guarantee that, unless those roles claim now (which would be a kinda stupid thing for them to do if they haven't caught whiff of scum yet) and say so. So I don't see Red as confirmed town Today. I'm not in complete disagreement with peeker's suggestion that the MPP is probably a low poster. Scum do like to lurk. Though I could very easily see players like Sister Coyote being talkative as all getout as scum (not a smudge--I'm using you as an example because you frequently state how easy you find it being scum). With a whole scum team, it's usually a good bet at least one is going to lurk. When we're looking for one (since we're just talking about the MPP's posting on Day 1 right now), it could go either way. I'm not used to the playstyles of a lot of the players here yet, so I can't really judge if anyone is lurking more than they normally do or not. Okay, I think that's about all I got right now. I'm going to go out on a hunch and: Vote: Inner Stickler for his abrupt change in play between Yesterday and Today.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Sept 17, 2011 1:56:02 GMT -5
No, I just don't have any real opinions. The only thing I really thought was that Bill seemed fishy, and he did, but for the wrong reasons. Most of my posts in Day 1 were speculation on mechanics. I can continue speculating on them if you like, but there's not really a lot more info on them than Yesterday and Day 1 seemed like a good day for that sort of navelgazing. Day 2 seems like it should be more businesslike, and if there's one thing I'm not it's business-y. (Today at work, a customer called me corporate. I almost leaped over the counter and slugged him.) This post from texcat on day 1 bothers me: I was really hoping that RedSkeezix would be back to explain this, but I'm not sure I'll be back before EOD, and I need to vote. Vote: RedSkeezix (bleached by me) I'm not really liking this idea that we have to vote. I feel as though people are throwing votes down, not for any real reason but because they don't want to get votes for not voting. It's also why I was getting all up in sister's face because I can't think of a worse reason for being such a latecomer on a bandwagon.
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Post by Dirx on Sept 17, 2011 2:21:53 GMT -5
I like to try to have a vote by about this point in the Day. It may not be my final vote (in the morning I'll check up on what you said about your posting), but at least there's something in case I drop off the face of the earth or whatever. Also, it helps generate discussion, which we're sorely lacking Today.
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Post by Silver Jan on Sept 17, 2011 2:36:04 GMT -5
In this type of set up it seems to me that finding scum should be easier as the days go on as we hopefully gain more knowledge and see possible strategy changes in player. Day 1 and even toDay is sort of like randomly throwing a machete into the crowd and hoping it hits the right one. I would think it would make the most sense to vote out the ones most likely to be recruited but a couple of things wrong with that idea. As has been discussed, everyone has a different idea on who they would recruit and if we got rid of the good active players then we basically had over the game to the scum pods. For example, if I was the MPP I would have recruited Bill, Dirx and Guiri clearly our MPP did not but I also haven't played with everyone that is playing in this game so I am hardly the best opinion to go on. Also if they are not podded they would be useful in hunting down the pods. I am at a loss as to how to vote. As for Silver I don't think she is the MPP and she does have a nasty habit of dying young so I'm not sure the MPP would have recruited her. I would think the MPP would want their recruits to become podded before the mob got them. And it looks like I am going to die early in this game too I think I need to give up this game, I get so frustrated at always looking scummy when I'm not.
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Post by guiri on Sept 17, 2011 10:01:22 GMT -5
As for Silver I don't think she is the MPP and she does have a nasty habit of dying young so I'm not sure the MPP would have recruited her. I would think the MPP would want their recruits to become podded before the mob got them. While SilverJan may have a habit of being lynched early elsewhere, she's survived a fairly long time in the games she's played here and on the Dope. I think she's playing down her experience.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2011 10:23:22 GMT -5
As for Silver I don't think she is the MPP and she does have a nasty habit of dying young so I'm not sure the MPP would have recruited her. I would think the MPP would want their recruits to become podded before the mob got them. While SilverJan may have a habit of being lynched early elsewhere, she's survived a fairly long time in the games she's played here and on the Dope. I think she's playing down her experience. jeebuz this is a smudgy post. almost to the extent of making me me vote to you.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2011 10:24:11 GMT -5
and guiri don't get me wrong but shit that is just slimy as all hell.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2011 10:27:46 GMT -5
ok, here is what detective spock concludes. the mpp is participating but not in such away that a whole big fracas develops. most likely if someone is podded they are probably being counseled to behave as they have in the past. i still think inner is the correct move but will move to guiri at this point as well. damn those poggers. and if the mpp did truly go underground. brilliant move but shitty play.
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Post by peekercpa on Sept 17, 2011 10:29:37 GMT -5
and i wish i was a vig in this game. because there would be some Nightime sizzling and popping going on.
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Post by texcat on Sept 17, 2011 10:37:41 GMT -5
This post from texcat on day 1 bothers me: I was really hoping that RedSkeezix would be back to explain this, but I'm not sure I'll be back before EOD, and I need to vote. Vote: RedSkeezix (bleached by me) I'm not really liking this idea that we have to vote. I feel as though people are throwing votes down, not for any real reason but because they don't want to get votes for not voting. It's also why I was getting all up in sister's face because I can't think of a worse reason for being such a latecomer on a bandwagon. I was suspicious of Red for his remarks about the nosy reporter claiming. I had asked some questions to see if Red would clarify and wanted to hear the answers before I voted. EOD was approaching and so I voted without hearing from Red first. My original phrasing probably should have been "I'm not sure I'll be back before EOD and so I need to vote now." However, I do think it is important for everyone to vote. How do you think we will ever catch scum if we allow them to be quiet and not vote? Forcing a vote and a reason for the vote gives us important information. I agree that just voting to be voting is not a very good reason, but it gives us information that silence does not.
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