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Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 12, 2011 12:30:12 GMT -5
And how did you get Colby's gadget?
Lightfoot, nice job voting me before I could vote you so now if I put my vote on you, where I intended to put it all along barring more information about Colby, it'll look like an OMGUS. :skeptical:
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 12, 2011 13:02:42 GMT -5
I dunno... I just received it at Dawn.
It's the same gadget that he claimed having... like I said before, I have no doubt that parts of his claime and PM are true... he did have the gadget and he did lose it when he somehow survived the lynch.... I just think he's lying about being a harmless 3rd party... mostly because I can use the gadget to add a second frequency to someone's collar... which is what Colby seems to have been doing... and did to Bill...
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 12, 2011 13:16:27 GMT -5
I'm confused. colby is still alive You were told it was from him?
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 12, 2011 14:11:10 GMT -5
No... he claimed that when he survived the lynch his gadget was passed to someone else randomly... and the description of the gadget I received is almost identical to the gadget he claimed to have...
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 12, 2011 14:13:34 GMT -5
Well, since I am going anyways, I'll let you guys have the entire PM to convince you. If that doesn't work, then I guess you need to believe in the power of.. well something besides me. you must have missed this part of his claimed PM...
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Post by Caerie on Dec 12, 2011 14:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 12, 2011 14:38:22 GMT -5
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Dec 12, 2011 14:38:49 GMT -5
I don't have a lot of time right now for a complete reread of all the posts, but
Vote Sinjin for your case on Paranoia being that he was town and the statement at the end of Day warning us about his game play.
I will not be around tomorrow at all, I have appts at the hospital for tests.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 12, 2011 16:39:35 GMT -5
Which is just one of the reasons I think he is lying about being 3rd party and is either PFK or scum.
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Post by sinjin on Dec 12, 2011 18:23:24 GMT -5
So if I can summarize the cases being presented about me: Carerie case: I placed a "safe" vote on my scum buddy Paranoia late Day one and revoted him early Day 2 then moved my vote to Archangel, who placed a scummy, disingenuous vote on SisC, but then turned out to be town. In addition the vote on Archangel was the "third" vote so I must be scum because scum all know the third vote is another kind of "safe" vote. Oh no wait that's not it, it's because of: "Suddenly dropping a bandwagon she was forming against a townie, to go hide among another group? Yeah, that looks scummy to me." Personally, as scum, if I saw two bandwagons forming on two town and I was the first voter on one I would be more than likely to stay on the first, YMMV. Inner: I changed my vote too frequently. Yes that might be true for some values of too frequently. However twice in 3 Days does not seem too frequently to me, again YMMV. JBG: I made a Day 1 case against Paranoia who turned out to be town. Heh, sucks to be anyone who makes a case against anyone who turns out to be town then. MoodyMitchy: I did a smiley at Caerie's statement that she needed coffee before posting, not that she missed Colby's PM. Note to self lessons learned in mafia: 1) Do not drink in the night thread, it might get you killed. 2) Do not joke vote day one, it might get you killed. 3) Don't give a person you're suspicious of a about drinking coffee while you are having your first cup, it might get you killed. Note (1) and (2) above happened in other games not this one. FTR I was a scum scottsman in an Idle game and I was a PFK in another game where my partner and I won if we "controlled" enough players. We came close to winning and I think the SK in that game did win. My vote for Colby11 stands, YMMV.
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 12, 2011 23:57:25 GMT -5
Lessons learned in this game:
1- Having fun in here makes you slip
2- Claiming survivor gets your killed
3- No one believes me... period
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 12, 2011 23:59:33 GMT -5
Better start making my signs
"Ed is scum"
"Collars rule, Conspiracy Drools"
"Survivors never die!"
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 13, 2011 0:37:05 GMT -5
May there be alot of exploding collars!
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Post by Colby11 on Dec 13, 2011 0:38:05 GMT -5
I'm interested in the little chat that sinjin and Caerie have been having... I find it interesting that sinjin is quite happy to accept that Caerie just happened to miss the whole of the claim post by colby11. Yes I know it happens sometimes but I just feel that some people would have been a little more intense in their questioning of it. I've no wish for discussion to stop and I do agree with Inner Stickler that it means that discussion may be somewhat quite just because we decide that colby11 is a good enough target. I still hold that as an admitted Non member of the Blue team, I want him gone. I agree that at this moment he doesn't seem to be a threat to the Blue team but there could come a point where he is a threat. Also, the way I read the PM. He has been able to target each Night. Why is he then, with holding information about who else he has targeted. Or do I have that part wrong ? Mr Special Ed..... what are your thoughts on this matter ? Colby is a lying Scum Scotsman piece of crap. Calling me a piece of crap was completely unwarranted.
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Post by special on Dec 13, 2011 0:50:27 GMT -5
Colby is a lying Scum Scotsman piece of crap. Calling me a piece of crap was completely unwarranted. I agree, that didn't come out right. My apologies.
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 13, 2011 4:01:41 GMT -5
Day 4 Vote Count
Colby11 (6): Special Ed(#2), PWIAG (#6), moodymitchy(#12), sinjin(#13), scathach(#15), Drainbead(#21)
sinjin (3): Inner Sticker(#53), Caerie(#84), JustBeingGinger(#97)
Special Ed (1): colby11(#36) Sister Coyote (1): lightfoot(#69)
Not Voting: Sister Coyote, GnarlyCharlie, storyteller
With these votes colby11 will be lynched
Day ends in approx 11 hours.
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Post by Drain Bead on Dec 13, 2011 7:27:57 GMT -5
I'm alive, but not particularly alert or enthusiastic, and awake is a toss-up.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Dec 13, 2011 11:01:09 GMT -5
Drain Bead: Thanks for the flashback to summer camp.
Paul, a question: If Colby is PFK, how is he supposed to meet his wincon without his gadget?
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Dec 13, 2011 11:19:08 GMT -5
Drain Bead: Thanks for the flashback to summer camp. Paul, a question: If Colby is PFK, how is he supposed to meet his wincon without his gadget? In the PM that told me I had received the gadget, it is very unclear what it actually does. Just that it adapts the targets collar to accept a second frequency. I replied and asked more questions and got a bunch of No Comment replies. One of the questions I asked was how do I control the second frequency and does it duplicate my collar frequency. My guess is that the role was created so that even if Colby lost his gadget and it went to someone else, if that person used it then the count toward his wincon would go up. The vagueness of the affects of the gadget don't make sense if me using it is supposed to be beneficial to me. Colby claiming and telling us all that the gadget only serves to reach his wincon put the mod in a tough spot where commenting on it at all could confirm or deny whether or not Colby is telling the truth... which would not be a fair way to mod the game. Here's a comparable example. Let's say Player A has a gadget that turns people's hair blue. His wincon is to have 5 living players have blue hair. Something happens and the gadget gets passed to Player B. Player B doesn't know about Player A's wincon, and thinks that it's cool he just got a gadget and wants to see what it does. By using it he unknowingly furthers Player A's wincon. I think that's how the gadget was supposed to function. It's a way of making it harder for Colby to win if he should be lynched/killed once.... harder, but not impossible. The problem is, his claim made me, the person the gadget went to, suspicious about the effects of it's use. I suppose you could argue that I could just not use the power and we wouldn't have to lynch him Today... he can't win if the person who has the gadget doesn't use it. But what happens when I die? Does the gadget get passed at random again? It could possibly fall back into his hands. Or it could get passed to someone who doesn't think he's a PFK and that thinks the gadget can be used to their benefit. There are too many uncertainties around the gadget and his role. I don't think it's a good idea to leave him around. A lot of things are pointing toward him being a PFK, but I don't know for sure. He could be the red team leader and the red team's wincon could be to control the collars of all remaining players. Remember, CiaS said that normal convention do not apply. All I know for sure is that the whole thing seems very fishy to me and I think it's better to kill him, if he flips PFK then we don't have to worry about it anymore... if he flips scum, we've got a problem because this gadget could fall to one of them again if they kill me.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Dec 13, 2011 13:32:04 GMT -5
i'm still haven't warmed up to the case on Colby.
the case on sinjin doesn't feel right either. in D2, she switched her votes from Paranoia to Archangel. this vote changed the lead from one townie to another. i'm inclined to idea that a scum sinjin wouldn't want to draw attention to such a herself that way.
i've been looking at the D1 votes on Mahaloth. the number is large enough that at least one scum would try to get town cred by voting him.
moodymitchy's vote tied Mahaloth with a town Jan and Inner's vote put Mahaloth into the lead. i doubt scum would do this a fellow scum that early into the game so i'll give them a townie lean. that leaves Drain Bead, story, scathach and me. i obviously won't consider myself so let's look at the other three whose votes followed mine.
story wanted to vote Lightfoot but that since she wasn't going to be lynched, he voted Mahaloth instead. i realize that story is a wily player especially as scum but his detailed post and his following through on D2 with a vote on Lightfoot makes me consider him townie.
of the remaining two, scathach also made a fairly detailed post even if it was mostly on Colby. it would have been easier to do what Drain Bead did and just switch votes without much explanation. also on D2 she went after Colby before it was fashionable to do so.
so i'll Vote Drain Bead.
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Post by scáthach on Dec 13, 2011 14:59:37 GMT -5
I dunno... I just received it at Dawn. Receiving it at dawn strikes me as a bit strange. If it was randomly passed on after the lynch then surely you'd have received it at Night no? It seems to imply that it was done as a Night action by colby. But that doesn't make sense, why would he choose you unless you're in cahoots somehow? But if you were scumbuddies, why would you admit receiving the gadget? I have to admit, I really don't understand this mechanic. At least lynching colby should give us some information.
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Post by CatInASuit on Dec 13, 2011 15:16:12 GMT -5
Day is over.
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Post by LightFoot on Dec 16, 2011 19:22:31 GMT -5
Although the sinjin and caerie show is intriguing , my suspicions have not swayed from SisC
To refresh your memories, Every Day’s vote has been a weak me-too-ish vote EXCEPT yesterday when she didn’t bother to vote ( and was here= posted after the last vote count)
I may be pit bulling this but I still Vote: Sistercoyote
@ SisC feel free to OMGUS me ( per yesterDay’s comment) If we are both Town ( which I doubt) hopefully there is a Scum collar attached
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