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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 12:57:12 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 24, 2012 12:57:12 GMT -5
Well, now I look stupid, especially since I wrote that before I saw texcat's claim. Hoopy, what do you suggest? Why do you look stupid? You don't see the reason for a texcat lynch, so you didn't vote for her. She then claimed Witchdoctor, which if true means you were correct. How does that make you look stupid?
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:00:33 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jan 24, 2012 13:00:33 GMT -5
Well, now I look stupid, especially since I wrote that before I saw texcat's claim. Hoopy, what do you suggest? Why do you look stupid? You don't see the reason for a texcat lynch, so you didn't vote for her. She then claimed Witchdoctor, which if true means you were correct. How does that make you look stupid? I wrote the "I don't believe in the texcat case" before I saw the claim that she made. I dunno whether the claim is valid, though. The claim seems a bit too late in this case.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:05:58 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jan 24, 2012 13:05:58 GMT -5
And I think the Day has ended
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:09:30 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Jan 24, 2012 13:09:30 GMT -5
No. It's 3 eastern, 12 pacific. We have 50 minutes give or take.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:11:50 GMT -5
Post by Drain Bead on Jan 24, 2012 13:11:50 GMT -5
I'll be gone for the end of the Day, but my votes are where I want them.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:27:24 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 24, 2012 13:27:24 GMT -5
No. It's 3 eastern, 12 pacific. We have 50 minutes give or take. We've got about 93 minutes, actually. It's currently 10:27 PST.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:29:28 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Jan 24, 2012 13:29:28 GMT -5
I had a post, but proboards/my internet ate it. So let me summarize. I think Suburban is more pro-town acting toDay than yesterDay, so I'm not going to revote for him. I'm a little wary of texcat's witchdoctor claim because it's not terribly easy to confirm, but at the same time the majority of votes on her towards the end of her wagon are more "welp, she's the lynch leader and we should lynch someone because someone is better than nothing." It's interesting, because mahaloth's wagon took off the same way-ish. I understand where the Boozy wagon is coming from: not posting much, when he does post it's vagueries that aren't very incriminating. But I voted for archangel last game for the same reasons and she was town, so I'm kind of in a "once bitten, twice shy" mentality there. Gnarlycharlie's playstyle rubs me the wrong way, but it always does and he's been town every time so it doesn't really give me any vibes. What I don't like is him essentially coming in towards the end of the Day, saying he supports the texcat lynch but not actually voting for her, then voting for the person with the second most votes, giving a possible out if people want to unvote. Looks like a teammate subtly trying to get brownie points but at the same time leaving options open. That is, of course, entirely dependent on texcat coming up Wolf/Cabal though. No. It's 3 eastern, 12 pacific. We have 50 minutes give or take. Actually, about an hour + the 50 minutes, but more like 30 minutes now that I had to rewrite everything.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:31:42 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Jan 24, 2012 13:31:42 GMT -5
See, this is the problem with living in Arizona. You lose track of the time zones in other places. It's the lack of daylight savings.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 13:50:21 GMT -5
Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 24, 2012 13:50:21 GMT -5
You live in Arizona too? I never knew. Same here.
Maybe you're my next door neighbor for all I know.
So this post is not completely out of game: I'm happy with my vote.
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Jan 24, 2012 13:52:36 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 24, 2012 13:52:36 GMT -5
Texcat
Wo did you enchant last Night?
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 14:05:33 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 24, 2012 14:05:33 GMT -5
Having just got home and read the last 60-odd posts.
I'm still happy where my vote is. Gnarlycharlie's votes did seem suspicious when I finally got to reread Day 1, and it seems the best case to me.
I'm not happy with the case on Texcat. In particular, there seem to be a lot of votes placed on her on the grounds that "she's the lynch leader and we've got to lynch someone." It seems to me that that sort of excuse is a good one for an anti-Town player to hide a vote, because it doesn't rely on any sort of case. I think there might be fertile ground for investigation in the late voters on both Mahaloth and Texcat Tomorrow, no matter what they turn out to be. (The fact that I almost voted Mahaloth for that exact same reason Yesterday means only that I have a counterexample showing Town aligned players will vote for that reason.)
CIAS, I note a result of your voting strategy. You are effectively not voting for any of the leaders. It does have the positive effect of moving suspects closer to the lynch than the opposite tack of not voting at all, but unless you seriously think they are all anti-Town you should pick one to back the lynch of. Otherwise it feels you are trying to hide your suspicion in a cloud of votes.
It's an interesting experiment, but it doesn't feel Townie to me after two Days of use.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 14:16:14 GMT -5
Post by septimus on Jan 24, 2012 14:16:14 GMT -5
And once again, only one player comes close to the Lynch threshold, and people not over-happy with the case have to jump on the bandwagon just to avoid No Lynch. A late claim is made ... which we almost have to ignore, since the alternative is probably No Lynch. Players: We need to participate AND cast multiple votes.septimus, if you weren't a uncounterclaimed coroner, you'd have my vote. you're smudging players left and right. just because you may be town it doesn't mean you can be irresponsible in throwing out stuff. also accusing of being wolf for not voting mahaloth is silly. assuming he is wolf, how would i know that? your logic escapes me. Others made a case against you, which made sense to me. My comment was just what it was: If we assume Wolves don't vote Wolves, then the non-Maha voters are more likely to be Wolves than the voters. That's not a smudge, just simple arithmetic.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 14:19:52 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 24, 2012 14:19:52 GMT -5
If we assume Wolves don't vote Wolves, then the non-Maha voters are more likely to be Wolves than the voters. That's not a smudge, just simple arithmetic. But why would we assume that, when we all know darn well it's not true (in general)?
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 14:28:47 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 24, 2012 14:28:47 GMT -5
Having just got home and read the last 60-odd posts. I'm still happy where my vote is. Gnarlycharlie's votes did seem suspicious when I finally got to reread Day 1, and it seems the best case to me. I'm not happy with the case on Texcat. In particular, there seem to be a lot of votes placed on her on the grounds that "she's the lynch leader and we've got to lynch someone." It seems to me that that sort of excuse is a good one for an anti-Town player to hide a vote, because it doesn't rely on any sort of case. I think there might be fertile ground for investigation in the late voters on both Mahaloth and Texcat Tomorrow, no matter what they turn out to be. (The fact that I almost voted Mahaloth for that exact same reason Yesterday means only that I have a counterexample showing Town aligned players will vote for that reason.) CIAS, I note a result of your voting strategy. You are effectively not voting for any of the leaders. It does have the positive effect of moving suspects closer to the lynch than the opposite tack of not voting at all, but unless you seriously think they are all anti-Town you should pick one to back the lynch of. Otherwise it feels you are trying to hide your suspicion in a cloud of votes. It's an interesting experiment, but it doesn't feel Townie to me after two Days of use. As someone who's voting most of the vote leaders myself, I've made cases on everyone I'm voting for but texcat. I'd rather any of them get lynched before her, particularly gnarlycharlie who's been my top choice all Day. But it's not going to happen. I even stated why I'm not all that gung-ho about the texcat case when septimus started it. But I voted to make sure the lynch happens because better that then no lynch. The problem is we have a bunch of non-voters who haven't even weighed in on any of the cases. (Well boozy briefly weighed in on his own case with a post that was lacking in much substance.) Lack of participation is what the real problem is here.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 14:31:08 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jan 24, 2012 14:31:08 GMT -5
In my opinion, the wolves WILL vote, it's usually lazy Townies that don't vote. Wolves want to win and why not, don't we all want to win? I am sure all of us have had the pleasure of being scum and as playing scum I was always out there, making false claims and the like. I am not happy with the lurkers but it's so close to EOD that I am still so happy with my vote on gnarly.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 15:02:27 GMT -5
Post by special on Jan 24, 2012 15:02:27 GMT -5
I think we should start the Day CatInASuit style.
Everyone has full votes on everyone else. That way, if you don't participate, at least you don't hinder players reaching the vote threshold. Then we'd have more palyers in lynch contention.
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Day Two
Jan 24, 2012 15:09:53 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on Jan 24, 2012 15:09:53 GMT -5
Day Two is over.
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