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Post by Pleonast on Jan 26, 2012 16:01:03 GMT -5
And Day Three begins. scathach is dead. JustBeingGinger was Town. texcat becomes a Zombie.
Day Three will end no later than Tue Jan 31 at noon PT.
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Post by scáthach on Jan 26, 2012 16:09:18 GMT -5
Well boo
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 26, 2012 16:16:26 GMT -5
Well, one thing can be said about this iteration of Conspiracy. Bloodletting level is way down on previous games.
Septimus, what reading do you get on Scathach?
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Post by texcat on Jan 26, 2012 16:49:17 GMT -5
Bwhahahaha! I smell BRAINS!!
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 26, 2012 16:52:47 GMT -5
Well, to start off with: Vote: gnarleycharlie For the same reasons as before. I've seen nothing to change my opinion. Oh, and what exactly is going on with the Masons now. Peeker is a mason, no wait he isn't, no wait he is, no wait he isn't? He claimed Day 1, no one countered him until Night 2. You would expect someone would have tried to shake with him Day 1 and would have countered him Night 1 if he wasn't. But then Jan says he isn't and then says she misread and he is. But Bill says he isn't, agreeing with Jan's first post but not her second. And why did they not shake with him until Day 2? Or did they shake with him on Day 1, and just not decide to out him until later?
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Post by Drain Bead on Jan 26, 2012 17:02:58 GMT -5
Okay. So here's how I'm going to parse this. I believe Bill. And the reason why I believe Bill is because I think it would be a really dick move to lie about one's role when you're essentially posting that your dad just passed and you're going to be away from the game for a while. Totally outside of the game, I know, but remember how I said I was going to go with my gut? My gut says Bill was being 100% truthful, and he also likely only saw Jan's first post before claiming and checking out of the game for the foreseeable future. I know if I was in his shoes, I wouldn't have been reading the thread too closely. Vote: peeker Vote: jan The vote on Jan is not necessarily meant for anything other than to put a little heat on her to answer my question from the Night thread. Although it occurs to me I should probably check--I didn't look there first and I haven't looked at it since about noon. Leaving the vote because I am posting from my iPad and it was a goddamn pain in the ass to do it.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 26, 2012 17:03:59 GMT -5
Hoopy, I think Bill's delay is adequately explained; his business trip got extended by transport problems and he took the first opportunity he had to use his power. He probably won't be back to confirm this though.
I think Sliver Jan needs to give a definitive answer to these questions, complete with PM (Sorry Jan, but I think you need to quote the PM from Pleo. There's no rule against it as far as I can see.)
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 26, 2012 17:29:47 GMT -5
Hoopy, I think Bill's delay is adequately explained; his business trip got extended by transport problems and he took the first opportunity he had to use his power. He probably won't be back to confirm this though. True. But ginger claimed mason as well (and we know she's town, so she's likely telling the truth) and she shook with Ed instead of peeker that day. And Jan claimed she shook with Ed as well. Why is Ed so special that masons would shake with him rather than the claimed mason right in front of them? And if peeker isn't mason, why claim something easily proven as a lie? It just seems odd that a Day 1 essentially instantly confirmable claim isn't brought into question until Night 2. So yeah, something's rotten in the state of Denmark.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 26, 2012 17:41:06 GMT -5
Okay. So here's how I'm going to parse this. I believe Bill. And the reason why I believe Bill is because I think it would be a really dick move to lie about one's role when you're essentially posting that your dad just passed and you're going to be away from the game for a while. Totally outside of the game, I know, but remember how I said I was going to go with my gut? My gut says Bill was being 100% truthful, and he also likely only saw Jan's first post before claiming and checking out of the game for the foreseeable future. I know if I was in his shoes, I wouldn't have been reading the thread too closely. I've got to disagree with you here. peeker claimed Freemason on Day 1. Jan and Ginger claimed Freemason on Night 1. It's now Day 3. If Bill is to be believed, then we have the following scenario: - Jan, who is not a Freemason, accidentally outed her fellow Liar peeker, then retracted her statement and confirmed him.
- Freemason BillMc saw Jan's first post but not her second and used his (probable) last post of the game to out peeker (and, unbeknownst to him, Jan as well).
- The other Freemasons (who must exist, because Bill is one of them and peeker and Jan aren't) either failed to handshake with either 'false Mason' for two Days or have all decided to remain silent about the deception that they have discovered.
It just doesn't seem likely. Jan's statement and retraction particularly make no sense in this scenario. And if she was going to false confirm peeker, why didn't she do it on Night 1? I think the more likely scenario is this: Bill is not a Mason (assume for sake of argument that he's a Wolf). He's been unable to participate so far in the game because his business trip got extended, and now he's going to be unable to participate in the future because of personal issues. He's basically got one post to help his team win. What is he supposed to do? Say "Sorry guys, I won't be back...oh by the way, I'm a Wolf...lynch me now."? No, he's going to lie, because that's wahet he's supposed to do in that role, and try to use his one post to cause confusion. And in this case, the best way to do that is to denounce peeker, because he thinks that Jan has already found peeker out, so he will buy Town cred. Sure, it will only last until someone investigates him and uncovers his lie, but that's better than nothing; at least he buys his team a little time. I don't see that as a "dick move" at all. I see it as "playing the game", which is exactly what I think Bill would do in that situation. vote BillMc
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Post by guiri on Jan 26, 2012 17:51:19 GMT -5
I agree with Suburban.
Vote Bill
I can see Jan being misreading a PM. I can't see any other mason choosing not to counter-claim Peeker on Night 1, even if Bill wasn't around to do it. I don't see why neither Jan nor Ginger attempted to handshake with Peeker Day 1 but hey, maybe there's a strategy there I'm missing.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 26, 2012 17:59:48 GMT -5
We Witches found out that Pollux Oil is a wolf this investigation.
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Post by guiri on Jan 26, 2012 18:04:51 GMT -5
Vote PolluxOil
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 26, 2012 18:09:13 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole Jan/Peeker/Bill thing. Obviously one or two people are lying, but trying to guess who seems like a logic puzzle. Whoever is scum among them will obviously just try to further complicate things.
Personally, I'm more apt to believe Bill and not believe Janet since Janet is the one who can't seem to keep her story straight (something that's easy to do if you're lying).
But today's vote for me is easy. Vote Pollux Oil
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 26, 2012 18:18:02 GMT -5
vote Pollux Oil
I think this should be our lynch for Today (pending the inevitable counter-claim). The Freemason issue will eventually be sorted out by the 'real' Masons and/or the Seer, and as long as we can keep lynching Wolves I'm content to let the issue sit on the back burner.
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Post by Colby11 on Jan 26, 2012 19:04:58 GMT -5
Vote: Pollux Oil
As far as the mason mess, I say that we need to get this sorted out too. Since we have found a wolf, I say let the investigators in the game sort that out.
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Post by Drain Bead on Jan 26, 2012 19:05:38 GMT -5
Vote: Pollux Oil
You're right, this is easier than sorting out the Mason mess right now.
Any opinion on voting to end the Day? I'd just as soon keep talking to let people trip up, especially since we won't get any immediate new info (thanks, Wolves or Vamps, you jackasses). But I figured I'd throw the idea out there, since the mechanism exists.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:08:30 GMT -5
Well, one thing can be said about this iteration of Conspiracy. Bloodletting level is way down on previous games. Septimus, what reading do you get on Scathach? no wonder we're friends. i agree wholheartedly. while a light deathtoll is always welcome, in this version of mafia it really does kind of defer the ability to figure shit out. there should be, normally two deaths per Night cycle. we keep getting one. can't imagine that the wolf collective has gone on some sort of vapor lock (although if pollux is really wolf maybe they just went on two week collective beer bong). so that means the undead is getting thwarted or has disengaged. the problem is that we keep getting these damn pesky zombies. so the nec is still playing. i think it is boozylazy turd ass not justified vote out of the gate. fuck dude, you dissed me for being distractionary before i even fucking posted in thread. that's so lame you need to be tossed from the bus just on general principle. vote squid
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:12:32 GMT -5
oh and just in case if fucking felix is in the room
i agree with burb and guiri.
[corlor=blue]vote bill[/color]b]
that's your cue jan
squid's the right fucking lynch choice, however.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:13:29 GMT -5
neta: fuck fuck fuck
vote bill
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Post by Nanook on Jan 26, 2012 19:16:37 GMT -5
No, the right lynch choice is Pollux. There's no upside to leaving an implicated wolf alive.
Vote: Pollux
I wouldn't mind ending the Day a little bit earlier, if for no other reason than to try and move where the Night is falling. As it stands it's really messing with my ability to participate.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:17:06 GMT -5
we'll take care of the wolves another Day. it's these fucking zombies that are giving me the potential heebies
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Post by Pollux Oil on Jan 26, 2012 19:20:34 GMT -5
Well, I thought this might be coming from Idle eventually. I guess he figured his ruse was almost up and is taking a last gambit since the Night deaths have been so few. Eventually somebody will actually target him for a Nightkill.
I'm not a Wolf, I'm actually a Witch. We let Idle keep his mask going because we investigated him Night One: he's Cabal. Kind of ironic, since I was on the other side of this when it happened in Conspiracy 2. Since all three of us were still alive, Idle didn't pose a threat and we could wait to reveal ourselves and let Idle draw any fire from the Nightkills. Obviously with two Wolves down, now, the pressure's on for the Cabal to lynch a Witch. I don't know how Idle came to target me (maybe a secret power?) or if he even knew what I was beforehand.
Last night's investigation was a Town result, so I'm not going to reveal that information quite yet.
I'm tempted to vote Idle on principle, but like I said, he's Cabal and we've still got three functioning Witches at the moment. I'd say we should continue the Wolf/Undead hunt first.
I'll go ahead and stick my votes up as continuation.
Vote: Inner Stickler Vote: CatinaSuit
I'm also going to
Vote: gnarlycharlie
because of what I said at the end of Day 2: gnarlycharlie's actions looked suspiciously like somebody trying to start a non-texcat bandwagon. Since texcat showed up as a wolf, I'm guessing it was a maneuver by charlie to possibly set up a competing bandwagon for people.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:21:57 GMT -5
No, the right lynch choice is Pollux. There's no upside to leaving an implicated wolf alive. Vote: Pollux [/color] I wouldn't mind ending the Day a little bit earlier, if for no other reason than to try and move where the Night is falling. As it stands it's really messing with my ability to participate.[/quote] no no no. my trusted polar bear from the north. wolves are fucked. we've got to get undead unless we want to live up to our eyeballs in fucking zombies. missed you, btw. woot fucking woot.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:29:52 GMT -5
Well, I thought this might be coming from Idle eventually. I guess he figured his ruse was almost up and is taking a last gambit since the Night deaths have been so few. Eventually somebody will actually target him for a Nightkill. I'm not a Wolf, I'm actually a Witch. We let Idle keep his mask going because we investigated him Night One: he's Cabal. Kind of ironic, since I was on the other side of this when it happened in Conspiracy 2. Since all three of us were still alive, Idle didn't pose a threat and we could wait to reveal ourselves and let Idle draw any fire from the Nightkills. Obviously with two Wolves down, now, the pressure's on for the Cabal to lynch a Witch. I don't know how Idle came to target me (maybe a secret power?) or if he even knew what I was beforehand. Last night's investigation was a Town result, so I'm not going to reveal that information quite yet. I'm tempted to vote Idle on principle, but like I said, he's Cabal and we've still got three functioning Witches at the moment. I'd say we should continue the Wolf/Undead hunt first. I'll go ahead and stick my votes up as continuation. Vote: Inner Stickler [/color] Vote: CatinaSuit [/color] I'm also going to Vote: gnarlycharlie [/color] because of what I said at the end of Day 2: gnarlycharlie's actions looked suspiciously like somebody trying to start a non-texcat bandwagon. Since texcat showed up as a wolf, I'm guessing it was a maneuver by charlie to possibly set up a competing bandwagon for people.[/quote] ok this post just made me do the la la la song in my head.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:43:41 GMT -5
Well, I thought this might be coming from Idle eventually. I guess he figured his ruse was almost up and is taking a last gambit since the Night deaths have been so few. Eventually somebody will actually target him for a Nightkill. I'm not a Wolf, I'm actually a Witch. We let Idle keep his mask going because we investigated him Night One: he's Cabal. Kind of ironic, since I was on the other side of this when it happened in Conspiracy 2. Since all three of us were still alive, Idle didn't pose a threat and we could wait to reveal ourselves and let Idle draw any fire from the Nightkills. Obviously with two Wolves down, now, the pressure's on for the Cabal to lynch a Witch. I don't know how Idle came to target me (maybe a secret power?) or if he even knew what I was beforehand. Last night's investigation was a Town result, so I'm not going to reveal that information quite yet. I'm tempted to vote Idle on principle, but like I said, he's Cabal and we've still got three functioning Witches at the moment. I'd say we should continue the Wolf/Undead hunt first. I'll go ahead and stick my votes up as continuation. Vote: Inner Stickler [/color] Vote: CatinaSuit [/color] I'm also going to Vote: gnarlycharlie [/color] because of what I said at the end of Day 2: gnarlycharlie's actions looked suspiciously like somebody trying to start a non-texcat bandwagon. Since texcat showed up as a wolf, I'm guessing it was a maneuver by charlie to possibly set up a competing bandwagon for people.[/quote] play poker?
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:50:49 GMT -5
pollux is the absolute wrong lynch. we'll get his ass sometime; let;s get an undead. that's where the threat is. jeebuz! he's in the bag, fcs. AAAAIIIEEEEEE.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 19:57:08 GMT -5
pollux is the absolute wrong lynch. we'll get his ass sometime; let;s get an undead. that's where the threat is. jeebuz! he's in the bag, fcs. AAAAIIIEEEEEE. thank god someone is making sense.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 20:00:54 GMT -5
No, the right lynch choice is Pollux. There's no upside to leaving an implicated wolf alive. Vote: Pollux [/color] I wouldn't mind ending the Day a little bit earlier, if for no other reason than to try and move where the Night is falling. As it stands it's really messing with my ability to participate.[/quote] turd vote. good vote if you are undead.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 20:07:33 GMT -5
Well, I thought this might be coming from Idle eventually. I guess he figured his ruse was almost up and is taking a last gambit since the Night deaths have been so few. Eventually somebody will actually target him for a Nightkill. I'm not a Wolf, I'm actually a Witch. We let Idle keep his mask going because we investigated him Night One: he's Cabal. Kind of ironic, since I was on the other side of this when it happened in Conspiracy 2. Since all three of us were still alive, Idle didn't pose a threat and we could wait to reveal ourselves and let Idle draw any fire from the Nightkills. Obviously with two Wolves down, now, the pressure's on for the Cabal to lynch a Witch. I don't know how Idle came to target me (maybe a secret power?) or if he even knew what I was beforehand. Last night's investigation was a Town result, so I'm not going to reveal that information quite yet. I'm tempted to vote Idle on principle, but like I said, he's Cabal and we've still got three functioning Witches at the moment. I'd say we should continue the Wolf/Undead hunt first. I'll go ahead and stick my votes up as continuation. Vote: Inner Stickler [/color] Vote: CatinaSuit [/color] I'm also going to Vote: gnarlycharlie [/color] because of what I said at the end of Day 2: gnarlycharlie's actions looked suspiciously like somebody trying to start a non-texcat bandwagon. Since texcat showed up as a wolf, I'm guessing it was a maneuver by charlie to possibly set up a competing bandwagon for people.[/quote] that's lame and you know it you got a false claiming witch and you vote for someone else (not that it is a bad vote) but that is all sorts of messed up. how long were you going to go along with his false claim? a day, a month, a quarter, a year? so he is lying and you dont vote for him. heh heh. woot woot pollus you fucking rock.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 26, 2012 20:13:28 GMT -5
neta:
pollus: a hard indentation on the foot
pollux: a stud muffin that saves damsels in distress
gotta help you out, dude.
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