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Post by peekercpa on Jan 27, 2012 9:48:45 GMT -5
Have you found any other masons? (You needn't say who) And when did you investigate peeker? No, Peeker's my only found mason. I investigated him yesterDay. huh? how the fuck did you find me as a mason since i am not one? jeebuz, try to be consistent boozy. i kind of like my vote and observations tremendously at this point.
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Post by special on Jan 27, 2012 9:49:23 GMT -5
The Masons can work out who is and isn't being honest. And the Wolves will be forced to kill them off as time goes on and Undead.
And an icky thought. Could all of the Cabal have a secret power of investigating as Freemasons?
I'm also hopeful that the Town secret power might help us resolve this dilemma.
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Post by CatInASuit on Jan 27, 2012 9:53:22 GMT -5
sorry, I didn't color guiri, that means 7 or 8. I beleive a full mason claim is in order. With all results. And I think we start lynching from the non-Mason pool Unvote: End Day [/color] There's too much we need to get through toDay.[/quote] Pretty much this. I'm also against lynching either of the claimed witches, so I'm going to look back at the non-claimed pool.
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Post by CatInASuit on Jan 27, 2012 9:57:03 GMT -5
The Masons can work out who is and isn't being honest. And the Wolves will be forced to kill them off as time goes on and Undead. And an icky thought. Could all of the Cabal have a secret power of investigating as Freemasons? I'm also hopeful that the Town secret power might help us resolve this dilemma. After last time, if all the Cabal can be investigated as Freemason, it would probably be for one Day/Night only. How is the Town secret power going to help?
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Post by CatInASuit on Jan 27, 2012 10:15:22 GMT -5
Oh and can someone give hirkatbawa a nudge seeing as he hasn't been around at all and yes I did check the going away thread.
Makes you wonder if the reason for only 1 Night kill is that he is the vampire.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 27, 2012 10:29:02 GMT -5
Oh and can someone give hirkatbawa a nudge seeing as he hasn't been around at all and yes I did check the going away thread. Makes you wonder if the reason for only 1 Night kill is that he is the vampire. i hate this shit but i kind of agree. gotta figure that the wolves won't have gone stone cold absent. that means the absence of additional Night deaths has either got to be some sort of dropped off the planet. now, with all the fucking masons who the heck knows so i am totally talking out of ass about game design at this point. and i will confirm that burb and guir are masons.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 27, 2012 10:38:40 GMT -5
Posting as I catch up and have a chance to read in-depth the last couple of pages: I still want Hoopy Frood killed. He's very likely Cabal. You may have stated this elsewhere, but what makes you think Hoopy is Cabal?
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Post by Pleonast on Jan 27, 2012 10:39:07 GMT -5
Oh and can someone give hirkatbawa a nudge seeing as he hasn't been around at all and yes I did check the going away thread. I've already sent him a nudge on the SDMB. Others are free to do the same. (Just don't impart any in-game-related information, of course.)
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 27, 2012 10:42:54 GMT -5
For completeness sake, the Cabal secret power was: Stanislaus' comments on imitating Freemason: And Renata's response: are these quotes from an earlier game? very informative. if the Omega wolf scans Freemason, does that mean s/he can handshake? When I asked Pleonast about the possibility of false results, he mentioned that the Freemason role was in the game as a direct counter to the Omega Wolf, so that pretty much discounts the idea that the OW can handshake.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 27, 2012 10:42:59 GMT -5
this game is getting stranger and stranger. first off, Vote Hoopy FroodVote Pollux Oilalso, I'm a Freemason. i sent a handshake to peeker and this is what i got: i don't know if he's lying or if there's some power that affects handshaking so i'd like to hear from the others claiming Freemason. in the meantime: Vote peekerVote Silver Jani can without a doubt state that this is a lie.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 27, 2012 10:44:07 GMT -5
Yeesh. Sorry, peeker's my only confirmation of anything, rather. He's not a Mason, and he said he was. My first day, I didn't come up with anything of use to the game (given current Mason claims, that is) So what exactly did you come up with the first Day? Did you attempt to handshake unsuccessfully? Or did you fail to act at all?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 27, 2012 10:46:41 GMT -5
Catching up, but I see pollux is outed as wolf by idle:
Vote: pollux oil
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 27, 2012 10:52:43 GMT -5
Interestingly, if you actually read what Jan said, she never actually said that peeker was a mason. She only said that he was a "good oke", which I assume is a typo of one. That isn't the same. A fake claim gone bad perhaps? I've changed my mind. With TWO people counterclaiming peeker/maybe Jan, I would rather we resolved the new Monkgate before we kill Pollux. The only downside to keeping Pollux alive is that any detectives we have would be worthless for as long as he's alive. Oh and Pollux a question for you and your supposed Witch buddies. Why did you investigate Idle? [ color=red] Unvote: Pollux [/color] [ color=blue] Vote: peeker [/color] I think I believe Bill and Boozy more than Peeker. Peeker's initial claim made no sense, coming out of the blue as it did. It really felt like he was trying to get masons to claim with him to exposes them to being killed. Which seems to have worked, at least in the case of JBG.[/quote] On Day 1, Nanook initially voted for mahaloth and Idle Thoughts. Once Idle started getting a significant amount of heat, Nanook unvoted mahaloth specifically in order to counter Idle's self-defense vote. It was only after Idle's Witch claim leading to the bandwagon there falling apart that Nanook unvoted him and revoted mahaloth. mahaloth was a Wolf. On Day 2, Nanook voted for Inner Sticker over texcat when they were still neck and neck. It was only some time later when texcat was the prohibitive favorite that Nanook added his vote to that wagon. texcat is a Wolf according to septimus. Today, Nanook voted for Pollux Oil following Idle's reveal. But as soon as a bandwagon on peeker started to pick up, he unvoted Pollux and voted peeker instead. Pollux Oil is a Wolf according to Idle. Why the unvote Today, since the cases against Pollux and peeker are in no way related? I think Nanook is a Wolf vote Nanook
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 27, 2012 11:00:16 GMT -5
aiiiieeee. we need to get rid of the nec pretty durn quick or we will be up to our eyeballs in fucking zombies. pollux is an easy but stupid lynch. we've already got two wolves in the bag, right. so they are fucked. and unless my math is totally hosed the undead is the primary threat.
vote gnarley. either he or squid (or both) are undead.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 27, 2012 11:01:27 GMT -5
shit, hirky could be the damn vicar which would explain a N1 zombification.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Jan 27, 2012 11:07:38 GMT -5
Let's see if I have this correct: 01. Mr Special Ed NOT mason02. Hoopy Frood 03. BillMc Mason04. colby11 05. texcat - Lynched Day Two - zombified Night Two Wolf06. Nanook 07. Silver Jan Mason08. Drain Bead 09. hirkatbawa 10. gnarlycharlie Mason11. peekercpa Mason12. Pollux Oil Witch/ Wolf13. Inner Stickler 14. Sister Coyote 15. CatInASuit 16. Suburban Plankton Mason17. septimus Coroner18. scathach - Killed Night Two 19. Boozahol Squid Mason20. JustBeingGinger - Killed Night One - Town (Mason?)21. Merestil Haye 22. guiri Mason 23. Idle Thoughts Witch/ Cabal24. mahaloth - Lynched Day One - Zombified Night One - Wolf25. deon That means 7 masons id Ginger was one. Oh my dear sweet lord my head hurts. vote: Pollux I am inclined to agree with peeker that the undead are more of a threat than the wolves at this point. But I don't know whether to lynch into the mess of claimed masons and try to unsnarl it that way. Ed, did I miss your case for the Hoopster being cabal?
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 27, 2012 11:08:05 GMT -5
And with gnarley's claim.
Unvote: gnarlycharlie
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Post by CatInASuit on Jan 27, 2012 11:10:32 GMT -5
On Day 1, Nanook initially voted for mahaloth and Idle Thoughts. Once Idle started getting a significant amount of heat, Nanook unvoted mahaloth specifically in order to counter Idle's self-defense vote. It was only after Idle's Witch claim leading to the bandwagon there falling apart that Nanook unvoted him and revoted mahaloth. mahaloth was a Wolf. On Day 2, Nanook voted for Inner Sticker over texcat when they were still neck and neck. It was only some time later when texcat was the prohibitive favorite that Nanook added his vote to that wagon. texcat is a Wolf according to septimus. Today, Nanook voted for Pollux Oil following Idle's reveal. But as soon as a bandwagon on peeker started to pick up, he unvoted Pollux and voted peeker instead. Pollux Oil is a Wolf according to Idle. Why the unvote Today, since the cases against Pollux and peeker are in no way related? I think Nanook is a Wolf vote Nanook This is a case I approve of. What catches my interest is that this is a multi vote game and yet he deliberately unvoted mahaloth because he says he thought Idle was scummier. Why not just leave both votes on, if you consider them both scum? vote Nanook
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 27, 2012 11:12:50 GMT -5
I still want Hoopy Frood killed. He's very likely Cabal. You may have stated this elsewhere, but what makes you think Hoopy is Cabal? +1 Oh, and I am Spartacus!
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Post by CatInASuit on Jan 27, 2012 11:12:55 GMT -5
shit, hirky could be the damn vicar which would explain a N1 zombification. This possibility is also true
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 27, 2012 11:18:05 GMT -5
This is a case I approve of. What catches my interest is that this is a multi vote game and yet he deliberately unvoted mahaloth because he says he thought Idle was scummier. Why not just leave both votes on, if you consider them both scum? [ color=blue] vote Nanook [/color][/quote] No "vote 'em all and let god sort 'em out" this Morning?
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Post by CatInASuit on Jan 27, 2012 11:23:47 GMT -5
No "vote 'em all and let god sort 'em out" this Morning? No thanks. I don't feel like voting for everyone and then unvoting half of them again. That would just be a waste of time. Besides, I have made my feelings clear on both sets and what we should do with them and how the situation can be resolved. After that, there are only about 10 people left to look at. At least it clears the field down somewhat.
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Post by special on Jan 27, 2012 11:31:07 GMT -5
The Masons can work out who is and isn't being honest. And the Wolves will be forced to kill them off as time goes on and Undead. And an icky thought. Could all of the Cabal have a secret power of investigating as Freemasons? I'm also hopeful that the Town secret power might help us resolve this dilemma. After last time, if all the Cabal can be investigated as Freemason, it would probably be for one Day/Night only. How is the Town secret power going to help? I don't how it can help. I'm only hoping it can if this dastardly mess is the cause of a Secret power
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Post by special on Jan 27, 2012 11:32:44 GMT -5
Posting as I catch up and have a chance to read in-depth the last couple of pages: I still want Hoopy Frood killed. He's very likely Cabal. You may have stated this elsewhere, but what makes you think Hoopy is Cabal? Just a sneaking suspicion. Early on he decided that I was likely Town because I wasn't likely undead or wolf. It left out cabal. He stated it several times until I called him on it
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Post by special on Jan 27, 2012 11:34:50 GMT -5
aiiiieeee. we need to get rid of the nec pretty durn quick or we will be up to our eyeballs in fucking zombies. pollux is an easy but stupid lynch. we've already got two wolves in the bag, right. so they are fucked. and unless my math is totally hosed the undead is the primary threat. vote gnarley. either he or squid (or both) are undead. We've got 2 zombies and 21 living players. I think you can relax
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Post by special on Jan 27, 2012 11:35:30 GMT -5
Let's see if I have this correct: 01. Mr Special Ed NOT mason02. Hoopy Frood 03. BillMc Mason04. colby11 05. texcat - Lynched Day Two - zombified Night Two Wolf06. Nanook 07. Silver Jan Mason08. Drain Bead 09. hirkatbawa 10. gnarlycharlie Mason11. peekercpa Mason12. Pollux Oil Witch/ Wolf13. Inner Stickler 14. Sister Coyote 15. CatInASuit 16. Suburban Plankton Mason17. septimus Coroner18. scathach - Killed Night Two 19. Boozahol Squid Mason20. JustBeingGinger - Killed Night One - Town (Mason?)21. Merestil Haye 22. guiri Mason 23. Idle Thoughts Witch/ Cabal24. mahaloth - Lynched Day One - Zombified Night One - Wolf25. deon That means 7 masons id Ginger was one. Oh my dear sweet lord my head hurts. vote: Pollux I am inclined to agree with peeker that the undead are more of a threat than the wolves at this point. But I don't know whether to lynch into the mess of claimed masons and try to unsnarl it that way. Ed, did I miss your case for the Hoopster being cabal? I never really stated it as such. But I have now
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Jan 27, 2012 11:45:58 GMT -5
aiiiieeee. we need to get rid of the nec pretty durn quick or we will be up to our eyeballs in fucking zombies. pollux is an easy but stupid lynch. we've already got two wolves in the bag, right. so they are fucked. and unless my math is totally hosed the undead is the primary threat. [ color=blue]vote gnarley[/color][/b]. either he or squid (or both) are undead.[/quote] We started with 25 players. We're now down to 21 living players, with 2 Zombies. Based on pervious games, we should have 1-2 Necromancers and 1-2 Vampires. So far only 2 of the 4 dead so far have been Zombified, and we have had only one kill each Night. This suggests one (or more) of three possibilities - We have very few Undead (only one Vampire and one Necro)
- Our Undead are picking the same targets as each other (and possible overlapping with the Wolves as well)
- Most of the Undead among our non-participatory players
In any case, we probably have between 4 and 6 Undead in the game right now, compared to 15-17 Living players. Based on the rate of deaths and Zombification, it doesn't seem like we are in imminent danger from the Undead at this point. Of course, if the low numbers are because of inactivity from the undead players, and those players suddenly start participating, our cushion could shrink rather quickly, but things don't seem to be quite as dire as you're making out. Speaking of non-participatory players, we seem to have four: BillMc, whose absence has been explained deon, who posted only once, in Day 1 hirkatbawa, who hasn't posted since the Night 0 thread Inner Stickler, who hasn't been heard from since Day 1 It wouldn't shock me if we found at least one Undead and a Vicar among these players, as that would explain some of the Nighttime behavior (or lack thereof) rather well. I'm just not sure what we should do about it.
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Post by peekercpa on Jan 27, 2012 11:55:45 GMT -5
ok, i tend to agree with you folks regarding the "immenent" threat of undead. but i start getting all sorts of nervous in these conspiracy games. each Day that undead are alive they potentially gain 3 (lynch, night death and a zombie). and maybe more. so sure, they aren't going to win tomorrow but they sure as hell can in about two or three Days/Nights. that's why i don't think a wolf lynch is smart at this point. those poor bastards are about 7 or 8 cycles from pulling it out of the stove.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jan 27, 2012 11:57:46 GMT -5
That's why i don't think a wolf lynch is smart at this point. those poor bastards are about 7 or 8 cycles from pulling it out of the stove. You need a flea collar, peeker.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Jan 27, 2012 12:01:47 GMT -5
So what exactly did you come up with the first Day? Did you attempt to handshake unsuccessfully? Or did you fail to act at all? The latter. Where's that blush smiley when I need it? There it is.
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