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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 19:48:28 GMT -5
the truth is what the truth is. your conclusions based on statements and facts will have to be defined by you. and yet you assert that I'm a witch, and as such, should have had full knowledge that Idle wasn't a witch. And, you'll notice, when he claimed, I unvoted him. Eventually. So, what is Idle? Undead? Wolf? Cabal? rogue Town? yes, i think you are a witch. don't know what clue you and idle are up to. i really have been more focused on undead. and since i know that squid is lying for some reason i figure him a greater threat than others. not sure i've mentioned idle in a bit, btw. so i have no clue. if i had to guess he certainly is not undead or cabal. fair enough.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 19:50:29 GMT -5
otay i'll play. since guir was/is (or was a tasty cigar) what in the world does that make idle? man you folks hold me in low esteem. i will set my clock and give you fifteen minutes to ask me any question you want. i will answer truthfully. one fucking caveat it has to be yes/no. and i will not reveal alignment. fair enough nookie. hey, i am trying to win and getting the lot of you pissed off sure as shit ain't going to advance that cause. time starts NOW. neta: idle equals squid.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Feb 4, 2012 19:51:53 GMT -5
squid what the fuck story are you going to concoct when guiri flips cabal? just kind of curious. because i definitely see a nec sticking up for a vamp. How would I know who the vamp was, even if I was a necromancer?
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 20:47:10 GMT -5
See this? This is why I suggested we lynch peeker first. He spins the biggest pile of bullshit ever in an attempt to confuse, distract, and sow chaos. and nookie this kind of hurts my feelings (but not much - so no great worries) what in the world have i ever done to leave such a poor impression on you? i am truly just trying to be helpul.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 20:50:27 GMT -5
squid what the fuck story are you going to concoct when guiri flips cabal? just kind of curious. because i definitely see a nec sticking up for a vamp. How would I know who the vamp was, even if I was a necromancer? peek club on you are right. i forgot that your synapses don't connect peek club off
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 20:59:27 GMT -5
can we get serious for just a moment.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 21:00:29 GMT -5
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 21:07:12 GMT -5
and the first fucker that comes in with a distraction observation needs to be klled in some way. i win this fucker the old fashoned way. i earn the mother fucker. that's why i run at about seveny percent. now town has a fucking choice. eliminate those that can not harm them. or just get all pissy and shit, now i lose either way but i'd rather town win. just the way it goes undead and wolfies.
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Post by special on Feb 4, 2012 22:34:15 GMT -5
and yet you assert that I'm a witch, and as such, should have had full knowledge that Idle wasn't a witch. And, you'll notice, when he claimed, I unvoted him. Eventually. So, what is Idle? Undead? Wolf? Cabal? rogue Town? yes, i think you are a witch. don't know what clue you and idle are up to. i really have been more focused on undead. and since i know that squid is lying for some reason i figure him a greater threat than others. not sure i've mentioned idle in a bit, btw. so i have no clue. if i had to guess he certainly is not undead or cabal. fair enough. See, this is probably where your paranoia gets you. You need witches dead. Maybe you did block me. It only proves I'm likely not a Vampire or a Necromancer. Very odd though that you'd give the Vampire such clues as to who not to kill. Very odd indeed. You'd have to hope he hits the necromancer, no?
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Post by special on Feb 4, 2012 22:36:16 GMT -5
and yet you assert that I'm a witch, and as such, should have had full knowledge that Idle wasn't a witch. And, you'll notice, when he claimed, I unvoted him. Eventually. So, what is Idle? Undead? Wolf? Cabal? rogue Town? yes, i think you are a witch. don't know what clue you and idle are up to. i really have been more focused on undead. and since i know that squid is lying for some reason i figure him a greater threat than others. not sure i've mentioned idle in a bit, btw. so i have no clue. if i had to guess he certainly is not undead or cabal. fair enough. And here's where your misdirection unravels. If you truly felt that Idle wasn't a witch, and you knew him to not be Cabal. And you noticed that on his word a Wolf got lynched. And when he claimed Witch another Wolf was near the lynch lead with you, you'd have to guess he was Undead. So where has this concern regarding him been?
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 4, 2012 23:06:00 GMT -5
btw, all you smart folks. guiri was cabal. And so all of those results were faked? And Idle has lied to us? If Guiri does turn out to be Cabal, then they either have a special power that makes them read as Town or it's a default power in addiction to their secret power.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 23:49:05 GMT -5
And so all of those results were faked? And Idle has lied to us? If Guiri does turn out to be Cabal, then they either have a special power that makes them read as Town or it's a default power in addiction to their secret power. or you are full of shit.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 4, 2012 23:52:16 GMT -5
And so all of those results were faked? And Idle has lied to us? If Guiri does turn out to be Cabal, then they either have a special power that makes them read as Town or it's a default power in addiction to their secret power. and why do you keep getting this town or scum read? i thought it was supposed to be mason or not mason. fucking odd as shit.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Feb 5, 2012 0:36:30 GMT -5
If Guiri does turn out to be Cabal, then they either have a special power that makes them read as Town or it's a default power in addiction to their secret power. or you are full of shit. Yeah, sure...that explains how I knew Pollux was a Wolf, right? Or I could be a Wolf too, and that's how I'd know, right? Only if that's the case, why did Pollux try to get ME lynched by trying to make me out to be a liar? Nice try, but the Cabal could have ANY secret power...it's always been different every game, IIRC, so it's not impossible they could have a power to investigate as town this game.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Feb 5, 2012 2:36:36 GMT -5
peek club on you are right. i forgot that your synapses don't connect peek club off Drat. You've figured me out, peeks. I'm playing an SK role as a vocal player, and one who can be easily determined by a group of players who had already announced they were in the game. But I'm just so damn good at this that I managed to, through a series of hidden nods and tells, to inform a fifth columnist who coincidentally had already been detected as Town by the Witches as well as confirmed by other masons that he should confirm me, thereby granting me an extra day of time to wreak my wicked schemes against poor, innocent Cabalite you.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 5, 2012 9:09:01 GMT -5
See this? This is why I suggested we lynch peeker first. He spins the biggest pile of bullshit ever in an attempt to confuse, distract, and sow chaos. you don't like me much do you nookie? but now that i objectively analyze the situation. jan or i are probably the correct lynch for toDay. we've got 3 of eighteen that are effectively not participating at all. hopefull bill is doing all right and might join up again if we leave him alone. dont' have a clue about deon or hirky, however. so i am kind of not concerned about them. and jan seems to fallen off of the planet as well but i guess that could change. so i guess it's effectively town v undead at this point. i freely admit that i and jan are cabal so getting rid of us at some point is something town needs to do. and i kind of play this version of mafia a littly catty wampus. i kind of approach it as town being the good guys, wolves being traditional scum, undead being a pfk faction and cabal as kind of the red headed step children. and as such (i've only been town in previous iterations) i always figure that if, as town, we couldn't win that i'd just as soon let the cabal have it. now as a first time cabalist since i can't win i'd just as soon let town win and work to that end. but town seems to want undead to win which is odd to me. if we lynch jan i will definitely not block and let the kills and zombifications go forward. if you lynch me then that will be jan's choice (provided she ever shows up again). good game undead. you bagged it.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 5, 2012 9:13:37 GMT -5
Yeah, sure...that explains how I knew Pollux was a Wolf, right? Or I could be a Wolf too, and that's how I'd know, right? Only if that's the case, why did Pollux try to get ME lynched by trying to make me out to be a liar? Nice try, but the Cabal could have ANY secret power...it's always been different every game, IIRC, so it's not impossible they could have a power to investigate as town this game. nah, we only come back mason to other masons (near as i can tell from all the convoluted shit that i have been getting from pleo) and you are a good egg so ain't no probs.
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Post by Colby11 on Feb 5, 2012 11:36:47 GMT -5
My thinking is that if Peeker really is Cabal, then their secret ability is to either appear as freemasons, or choose to appear as a particular role that they choose from night to night, and they each have to pick a different role.
Vote: Vote: End Day I think we're going nowhere, and we have a lynch person. I say we lynch them.
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Post by Boozahol Squid, P.I. on Feb 5, 2012 11:42:26 GMT -5
Agreed.
Vote: Day End
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Post by special on Feb 5, 2012 12:01:14 GMT -5
Don't vote to End the Day. If we end it on Monday, then Day 5 will be scheduled to end on Monday as well.
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Post by Drain Bead on Feb 5, 2012 12:10:11 GMT -5
Unless we all immediately vote for Peeker and vote End Day to make it earlier.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 5, 2012 12:32:52 GMT -5
Unless we all immediately vote for Peeker and vote End Day to make it earlier. i'm going to have to pipe up and say that i disagree with this sentiment.
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Post by special on Feb 5, 2012 13:17:42 GMT -5
Unless we all immediately vote for Peeker and vote End Day to make it earlier. from the rules: Days and Nights always start at noon PT (3pm ET). Nights always last two days. Days always last at least one day, but no more than five days. Neither Days nor Nights will end on a Saturday or Sunday; any period that otherwise would end on those days is extended until Monday. To end a Day before the five days has passed, players may vote for "End Day". A Day will end if at a weekday noon, lynch conditions have been met and at least half the players have also voted for "End Day". If we End day anywhere after noon PST on Friday, then Day will end Monday at noon PST. As it stands, the only real way to shorten a Day and not have it end on Monday is to end it within 24 hours of it starting on Thursday.
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Post by Silver Jan on Feb 5, 2012 13:41:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry I haven't been here for a few days, I have been really ill (bronchitis) I will do a catch up and post in the morning.
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Post by BillMc on Feb 5, 2012 15:07:47 GMT -5
I'll confirm that I shook with Gnarly, and that the PM I got from Pleo confirmed Gnarly was a freemason. We definitely have too many masons, having that many folk able to shake and cofnirm a large town pool does not make sense. So that does suggest that someone's secret power is impersonation, or mass manipulation of the freemason-shake. Now the idea that there might be manipulation or impersonation isnt new and has been suggested before. But this comment by Drain caught my eye If Bill verified, I'd want to get at least two Days of other Masons handshaking you. Drain seems to accept that there is impersonation without question, and implies that the masons need to continue shaking with Gnarly - which would allow the fakers to coast through another couple of days. Peek and Jan have got me totally confused - one minute they appear to be agreeing with each other, the next disagreeing. Vote: peeker Vote: jan Vote: drain
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Post by special on Feb 5, 2012 15:49:22 GMT -5
Updating
Red is false results Blue indicates a true readin of not being a Mason
Peeker: D1: Shook Ed - Failed D2: Shook Boozy - Failed; Confirmed Jan's s Shake D3: Shook Jan - Failed
Jan: D1: Shook Ed - Failed D2: Shook Peeker - Success D3: no claim
Guiri: D1 Shook Peeker - Success D2: Shook Jan - Success D3: Shook Boozy - Success; Confirmed Suburban's Shake; Confirmed Hoopy's Shake
Suburban: D1:Shook Peeker - Success D2: D3: Shook guiri - Success
JustBeingGinger: D1: Shook septimus - Failed
Boozy: D1: D2: Shook peeker - Failed D3: Shook Jan - failed; Confirmed guiri's shake
Hoopy: D1: Shook Peeker - Success D2: Shook Jan - Success D3: Shook guiri - Success
gnarlycharlie: D1: no Shake D2: Shook Peeker - Failed D3: Shook Jan - Failed; Confirmed Bill's shake
Bill: D1: D2: Shook Peeker - Failed D3: Shook gnarlycharlie - Success
In my mind:
Cofirmed masons: JustBeingGinger
99.9% Masons: Guiri
Not Masons: Peeker - Faked Mason D1 Silver Jan - Faked Mason D2
Questionable: Suburban: If not, must have faked results D3, so Boozy and Hoopy are Masons Boozy: If not, must have faked results D3, so Suburban and Hoopy are Masons Hoopy: If not, must have faked results D3, so Suburban and Boozy are Masons gnarly: If not, either: 1. Faked results D3 1a. Either 2 players can faked results, or 1b. Suburban, Boozy, and Hoopy are all Masons 2. Is lying with Bill Bill:If not, either: 1. Faked results D3 1a. Either 2 players can faked results, or 1b. Suburban, Boozy, and Hoopy are all Masons 2. Is lying with gnarly
Crap, if 2 Cabal could have faked results in the same Night, really anyone can be a Mason or not.
Goodness gracious.
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Post by Drain Bead on Feb 5, 2012 17:02:31 GMT -5
I'll confirm that I shook with Gnarly, and that the PM I got from Pleo confirmed Gnarly was a freemason. We definitely have too many masons, having that many folk able to shake and cofnirm a large town pool does not make sense. So that does suggest that someone's secret power is impersonation, or mass manipulation of the freemason-shake. Now the idea that there might be manipulation or impersonation isnt new and has been suggested before. But this comment by Drain caught my eye If Bill verified, I'd want to get at least two Days of other Masons handshaking you. Drain seems to accept that there is impersonation without question, and implies that the masons need to continue shaking with Gnarly - which would allow the fakers to coast through another couple of days. Peek and Jan have got me totally confused - one minute they appear to be agreeing with each other, the next disagreeing. Vote: peeker [/color] Vote: jan [/color] Vote: drain [/color] [/quote] Well, there's clearly impersonation--both peeker and Jan got away with it for a while. If it works the way I think it works, and they can only fake for one Day, then we'd need at least another handshake to ensure that he's not faking. Hell, at this point I don't necessarily trust that you're not faking. I need to look at Ed's handy-dandy-handshake chart and try to work it out like a goddamn logic problem. Unfortunately, I've been spending most of the day painting ceilings, it's the goddamn Super Bowl, and I'm coming down with a nasty cold. I am likely going to spend the rest of the evening getting blind drunk and hoping that it kills whatever nasties are taking hold in my lungs.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 5, 2012 20:44:52 GMT -5
well i know that guiri/b] was cabal if that helps you fine gentlemen and ladies.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 5, 2012 20:48:09 GMT -5
got a couple more nuggests to share but since no one seems even remotely inclined to engage in potentially mutally beneficial discussion don't feel charitable enough to offer them up at this point.
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Post by special on Feb 5, 2012 21:02:06 GMT -5
got a couple more nuggests to share but since no one seems even remotely inclined to engage in potentially mutally beneficial discussion don't feel charitable enough to offer them up at this point. How about this.... If the Vampire kills toNight, you're our next lynch target? If he doesn't I'll lead the charge for letting you live.
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