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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 9, 2012 18:08:26 GMT -5
Burb, what are you suggesting by that? Are you trying to hint that Idle is Undead? Yeah, I have no idea where he's going with that either. I think he's just trying to smudge subtly in case he wants a reason to vote for me later. How would I know Scathach was a Witch if I wasn't a Witch myself? Or that Pollux was a Wolf? Those would have had to have been pretty lucky guesses. I'm not trying to 'smudge subtly'. I just have no clue where you're coming from all of a sudden. As if things haven't become confusing enough Today with the reveal that there is recruitment going on, you're throwing in a bunch of made-up rules for our consideration. I can't imagine why you'd be doing that. So far Today, you have proposed Cabal having a Night Kill, Vampires with a resurrection ability, and Vampires with a recruitment ability...none of which are in the rules, and none of which have been even hinted at by the results we've seen so far. Did you just not actually read the rules for this game at all, or are things not already sufficiently confusing for you? You've claimed to be a Witch, and every piece of evidence available suggests that is in fact exactly what you are. You correctly identified Pollux, you correctly identified scathach, and most importantly nobody has counter-claimed you. So you must be a Witch. Except...we find out Today that people are not necessarily as they seem. We were all certain that guiri was Town in large part because you told us so, but it turned out he wasn't. As Bill has pointed out, we can't trust any of our Mason claims at this point, we can't trust our Witch reveals, so yes; I'm questioning whether or not we can trust anything we've heard so far. I can't come up with any plausible scenario in which you aren't actually a Witch. but I still have issues with the way you've played the early part of this Day. Other than being 'probably Town', you don't seem to be helping much a the moment, and that makes me nervous.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:08:32 GMT -5
I can make a list, if you like. please do
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:14:12 GMT -5
oh and
Vote: peeker
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 9, 2012 18:14:13 GMT -5
i still think we are being short sighted in not going after the nec, or at least trying to find him/her. because if my numbers are right then all factions not undead have two more Days in the case of my insta lynch to get him/her or bingo, they win. i mean i am sure that if i get lynched that makes the undead and remaining wolf or wolfies happy. it's one less person to dick with. one less person that can't potentially foil them. and undead will be especially happy because they pick up a possible net four. right now it seems to me that town would want to keep me alive because of just having a number to offset this infestation of undead we are piling up. witches would seem to want me alive for the same reason as well as the fact that my block won't work on a communal so they continue to get investigation or protection (whatever their choice might be). wolf or wolfies would seem to want my ass alive since i am a nice juicy NK target (since they know they aren't hitting a potential vamp) and they are going to need my ass dead eventually but at least town potentially does part of their job for them/it/him/her. i mean what the sam hill carp am i missing?
and my feelings are kind of hurt. doesn't seem like anyone wants my input on the mass claim suggestion.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 9, 2012 18:17:54 GMT -5
[/color][/quote] and my feelings are hurt again. you intimated that you wouldn't go after me if there was only one kill last Night. hey, i delivered. and now this. i just feel so dirty and abused.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:24:06 GMT -5
i still think we are being short sighted in not going after the nec, or at least trying to find him/her. because if my numbers are right then all factions not undead have two more Days in the case of my insta lynch to get him/her or bingo, they win. i mean i am sure that if i get lynched that makes the undead and remaining wolf or wolfies happy. it's one less person to dick with. one less person that can't potentially foil them. and undead will be especially happy because they pick up a possible net four. right now it seems to me that town would want to keep me alive because of just having a number to offset this infestation of undead we are piling up. witches would seem to want me alive for the same reason as well as the fact that my block won't work on a communal so they continue to get investigation or protection (whatever their choice might be). wolf or wolfies would seem to want my ass alive since i am a nice juicy NK target (since they know they aren't hitting a potential vamp) and they are going to need my ass dead eventually but at least town potentially does part of their job for them/it/him/her. i mean what the sam hill carp am i missing? and my feelings are kind of hurt. doesn't seem like anyone wants my input on the mass claim suggestion. I think you might be motivated to downplay the threat of a Cabal with recruitment abilities.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:24:26 GMT -5
[/color][/quote] and my feelings are hurt again. you intimated that you wouldn't go after me if there was only one kill last Night. hey, i delivered. and now this. i just feel so dirty and abused.[/quote] So, who did you block?
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 9, 2012 18:27:55 GMT -5
peeker may actually have a point.
Today we have 17 people left in the game. We have at least 5 Undead (4 zombies and 1 Necromancer), and possibly more if one of the AWOL players is a Vampire. Assuming a lynch Today, a single death Tonight, and a successful Zombification tonight, we could be starting Day 5 with the score Undead-7, Living-8. That would be Bad.
It may be that there is no Vampire, or the Cabal might block the Necro, but he does appear to be correct in that we're running short of time to find the Necromancer.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:30:15 GMT -5
peeker may actually have a point. Today we have 17 people left in the game. We have at least 5 Undead (4 zombies and 1 Necromancer), and possibly more if one of the AWOL players is a Vampire. Assuming a lynch Today, a single death Tonight, and a successful Zombification tonight, we could be starting Day 5 with the score Undead-7, Living-8. That would be Bad. It may be that there is no Vampire, or the Cabal might block the Necro, but he does appear to be correct in that we're running short of time to find the Necromancer. Vote: Suburban Plankton
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 9, 2012 18:36:08 GMT -5
i still think we are being short sighted in not going after the nec, or at least trying to find him/her. because if my numbers are right then all factions not undead have two more Days in the case of my insta lynch to get him/her or bingo, they win. i mean i am sure that if i get lynched that makes the undead and remaining wolf or wolfies happy. it's one less person to dick with. one less person that can't potentially foil them. and undead will be especially happy because they pick up a possible net four. right now it seems to me that town would want to keep me alive because of just having a number to offset this infestation of undead we are piling up. witches would seem to want me alive for the same reason as well as the fact that my block won't work on a communal so they continue to get investigation or protection (whatever their choice might be). wolf or wolfies would seem to want my ass alive since i am a nice juicy NK target (since they know they aren't hitting a potential vamp) and they are going to need my ass dead eventually but at least town potentially does part of their job for them/it/him/her. i mean what the sam hill carp am i missing? and my feelings are kind of hurt. doesn't seem like anyone wants my input on the mass claim suggestion. I think you might be motivated to downplay the threat of a Cabal with recruitment abilities. well if i was town i'd sure as hell would be more concerned with a net gain of 4 per Day for undead, that's for fucking sure.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:37:30 GMT -5
So, imagine a game that starts with 1 Cabal who can recruit Masons.
And 8 Masons? Jan Ginger guiri Boozy Hoopy Suburban gnarly Bill
It's Day 5. Peeker could have already recruit 4 Masons.
He would be the real threat. Quite scary.
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Or maybe a smaller Cabal who could recruit only once, and they got guiri?
They may have had a choice of recruiting or imitating Masons.
D1 peeker imitates D2 Jan imitates D3 They recruit guiri D4 a 3rd Cabal could have pretended.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Feb 9, 2012 18:38:04 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px; "> Today at 3:09pm, Sister Coyote wrote:<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"> Except the alpha wolf was outed as dead last Night, I think it was.
</td></tr></tbody></table> You're making the same mistake that I did (at least, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it was a mistake and not just playing stupid ) It's the Omega Wolf that shows up as town, not the Alpha. Yes. Sorry. Four per Day, peeks?
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:40:02 GMT -5
I think you might be motivated to downplay the threat of a Cabal with recruitment abilities. well if i was town i'd sure as hell would be more concerned with a net gain of 4 per Day for undead, that's for fucking sure. I beginning to think that we don't have a Vampire. The extra kill could have been a Wolf revenge kill for the death of the Alpha. ~~~~~~~~~~~ @septimus, don't you know who killed you?
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 9, 2012 18:44:49 GMT -5
and my feelings are hurt again. you intimated that you wouldn't go after me if there was only one kill last Night. hey, i delivered. and now this. i just feel so dirty and abused. So, who did you block? i told you one kill. i delivered. that should be sufficient.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 9, 2012 18:47:16 GMT -5
peeker may actually have a point. Today we have 17 people left in the game. We have at least 5 Undead (4 zombies and 1 Necromancer), and possibly more if one of the AWOL players is a Vampire. Assuming a lynch Today, a single death Tonight, and a successful Zombification tonight, we could be starting Day 5 with the score Undead-7, Living-8. That would be Bad. It may be that there is no Vampire, or the Cabal might block the Necro, but he does appear to be correct in that we're running short of time to find the Necromancer. Vote: Suburban Plankton Thanks for that. I don't suppose you'd like to point out where anything I said is factually inaccurate, would you?
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 9, 2012 18:48:28 GMT -5
<font style="font-size: 12px; "> Today at 3:09pm, Sister Coyote wrote:<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" class="quote" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"> Except the alpha wolf was outed as dead last Night, I think it was.
</td></tr></tbody></table> You're making the same mistake that I did (at least, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it was a mistake and not just playing stupid ) It's the Omega Wolf that shows up as town, not the Alpha. Yes. Sorry. Four per Day, peeks? a lynch, two NKs and a zombie. 1 + 2 + 1 = 4 and that if that is too smart ass you can beat me up all you want. and i'll just say. yes maam can i have another. fair enough?
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:49:21 GMT -5
Thanks for that. I don't suppose you'd like to point out where anything I said is factually inaccurate, would you? and your opinion of a recruiting Cabal?
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:51:56 GMT -5
peeker may actually have a point. Today we have 17 people left in the game. We have at least 5 Undead (4 zombies and 1 Necromancer), and possibly more if one of the AWOL players is a Vampire. Assuming a lynch Today, a single death Tonight, and a successful Zombification tonight, we could be starting Day 5 with the score Undead-7, Living-8. That would be Bad. It may be that there is no Vampire, or the Cabal might block the Necro, but he does appear to be correct in that we're running short of time to find the Necromancer. And, as for factual errors, we have at least 5 undead. We have 17 players alive. At least 1 of those players is Undead. That means it is 16-5. 1 lynching, 1 Night Kill, 1 Zombification, tomorrow is 14-6 repeat 12-7 repeat 10-8 now it's scary.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 18:54:47 GMT -5
you're not being sharp at all today ;D
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 9, 2012 18:58:50 GMT -5
peeker may actually have a point. Today we have 17 people left in the game. We have at least 5 Undead (4 zombies and 1 Necromancer), and possibly more if one of the AWOL players is a Vampire. Assuming a lynch Today, a single death Tonight, and a successful Zombification tonight, we could be starting Day 5 with the score Undead-7, Living-8. That would be Bad. It may be that there is no Vampire, or the Cabal might block the Necro, but he does appear to be correct in that we're running short of time to find the Necromancer. And, as for factual errors, we have at least 5 undead. We have 17 players alive. At least 1 of those players is Undead. That means it is 16-5. 1 lynching, 1 Night Kill, 1 Zombification, tomorrow is 14-6 repeat 12-7 repeat 10-8 now it's scary. and that means only one NK and certainly i spin the numbers trying to save my scrawny ass. but if we do have a vamp then it's actully 9 - 9. GAME OVAH.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 19:00:03 GMT -5
And, as for factual errors, we have at least 5 undead. We have 17 players alive. At least 1 of those players is Undead. That means it is 16-5. 1 lynching, 1 Night Kill, 1 Zombification, tomorrow is 14-6 repeat 12-7 repeat 10-8 now it's scary. and that means only one NK and certainly i spin the numbers trying to save my scrawny ass. but if we do have a vamp then it's actully 9 - 9. GAME OVAH. OK, so tell me about your secret power, peeker, and I'll reconsider my vote.
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Post by BillMc on Feb 9, 2012 19:02:43 GMT -5
Scary as it is, I kinda find myself agreeing with Peeker.
Irrespective of whether Guiri was a one off recruitment by the Cabal, they can't win by numbers alone. However, the undead can win by sheer numbers
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 9, 2012 19:08:38 GMT -5
I beginning to think that we don't have a Vampire. The extra kill could have been a Wolf revenge kill for the death of the Alpha. Then who was blocking Septimus' reads on night kills? Since no one can do that shy of a secret power. And I can't see town doing that. So if the wolves secret power is a bonus kill, that leaves undead or cabal. So are you suggesting the necro can mask coroner results. Seems kind of an odd power for a non-killing role.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 9, 2012 19:08:56 GMT -5
peeker may actually have a point. Today we have 17 people left in the game. We have at least 5 Undead (4 zombies and 1 Necromancer), and possibly more if one of the AWOL players is a Vampire. Assuming a lynch Today, a single death Tonight, and a successful Zombification tonight, we could be starting Day 5 with the score Undead-7, Living-8. That would be Bad. It may be that there is no Vampire, or the Cabal might block the Necro, but he does appear to be correct in that we're running short of time to find the Necromancer. And, as for factual errors, we have at least 5 undead. We have 17 players alive. At least 1 of those players is Undead. That means it is 16-5. 1 lynching, 1 Night Kill, 1 Zombification, tomorrow is 14-6 repeat 12-7 repeat 10-8 now it's scary. You're right...I was subtracting the Zombies from the total of the Living players, and that's incorrect. Though I would argue that there is probably a second Undead among our 3 non-participants; otherwise the Undead faction started with only a single player, which seems rather underpowered. In that case it's currently 15-6, but it still works out to the same number of Days until we lose, all other things being equal. So maybe peeker doesn't have quite as good a point as I thought he did. All the same, if we spend the next 3 or 4 days exclusively hunting down Cabalists, then we're counting on the Wolves to kill the Necromancer before they kill the third Witch. Which makes Idle's Mass Claim start sounding like a good idea. My head hurts, and it's quitting time. Maybe things will make more sense when I get home and have a beer.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 9, 2012 19:09:04 GMT -5
Oh and
Vote: peeker
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Feb 9, 2012 19:12:01 GMT -5
[quote author=special board=consp5 thread=1850 post=86903 time=1328830802 ~~~~~~~~~~~
@septimus, don't you know who killed you?[/quote]
This really, really bugs me. I can see no reason for septimus not to tell us who killed him. There's no reason that knowledge would not be good for Town to have.
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 19:15:35 GMT -5
I beginning to think that we don't have a Vampire. The extra kill could have been a Wolf revenge kill for the death of the Alpha. Then who was blocking Septimus' reads on night kills? Since no one can do that shy of a secret power. And I can't see town doing that. So if the wolves secret power is a bonus kill, that leaves undead or cabal. So are you suggesting the necro can mask coroner results. Seems kind of an odd power for a non-killing role. Wolf secret power. How did it time out with the Alpha killing? was N3 masked or not?
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 19:15:57 GMT -5
Scary as it is, I kinda find myself agreeing with Peeker. Irrespective of whether Guiri was a one off recruitment by the Cabal, they can't win by numbers alone. However, the undead can win by sheer numbers Alright, well let's get the mass claim out of the way. Since Idle is away, I'll do it. I am the remaining Witch. Here's the order (feel free to jump in at any point if you want to change your claim): Sister, you're first. 1. Sister Coyote 2. Inner Stickler 3. colby11 4. Nanook 5. Drain Bead 6. CatInASuit 7. hirkatbawa 8. deonWitches Idle Thoughts Mr Special Ed Masons Hoopy Frood BillMc Boozahol Squid gnarlycharlie Suburban Plankton Coroner septimus - Killed Night Three - Alive Day Five Cabal peekercpa Dead Wolves mahaloth - Lynched Day One - Zombified Night One - Wolf - Werewolf texcat - Lynched Day Two - Zombified Night Two - Wolf - Alpha Wolf Pollux Oil - Lynched Day Three - Wolf Dead Town Witch scathach - Killed Night Two - Town - Witch - Zombified Night Four Mason JustBeingGinger - Killed Night One - Zombified Night Three - Town - Freemason Witchdoctor Merestil Haye - Killed Night Four Dead Cabal guiri - Killed Night Three - Cabal (was Town) Silver Jan - Lynched Day Four
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Post by special on Feb 9, 2012 19:16:21 GMT -5
Oh, hell, there are only 6 of you still playing to claim. I don't really care what order we do it in.
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Post by peekercpa on Feb 9, 2012 19:22:04 GMT -5
OK, so tell me about your secret power, peeker, and I'll reconsider my vote. i fuck like ron jeremy and cook like julia child.
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